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Comment on: Not So Friendly Fire

How Many Chances Should You Get?

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Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 3:31 PM Jimmy Carter writes:

Being wrong....

...97.382% of the time seems to work out for democrats.
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Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 3:40 PM Jimmy Carter writes:

What about that skit...

...with subliminal messages:

"Good evening, and welcome youareallgonnadie to the u.n. On behalf of unlessyougivemetentrilliondollars our member states I would enslaveeachandeveryoneofyou make peace a priority globalwarmingisreality."
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Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 5:34 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Let's hope...

that the 2.618% they get right involves the country NOT disappearing in a mushroom cloud.

Gore promised we would all have his internet. Where's the bailout for bloggers?
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Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 4:11 AM Sue writes:

Sgt Relic

You know I am going to just stay in line with Obama and say, "his comments were taken out of context." Ugh.

Get real! Get a job where you actually are correct in something. I am so tired of global warming, climate change, heat scam, whatever you want to call it.

Oh, poke my eye out please...
"Continuing his leadership to collaborate with other states to minimize climate change impacts, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger today will join with Wisconsin Governor Jim Doyle, Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich and six governors from Brazil and Indonesia in signing a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) to reduce forestry-related greenhouse gas emissions at the Governors' Global Climate Summit in Los Angeles, CA."
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Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 5:14 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Sue

In the spirit of bi-partisan cooperation everyone is so fond of today, I'll help your governator out on this one.

Cali could start by not setting the d*mn state on fire every other week!

That alone should reduce ya'll's carbon footprint substantially.
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Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 1:34 PM Joe writes:

These people and their supporters are

Idiots.

No common sense, and refuse to consider the posibility that they are wrong.
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Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 4:58 PM ScarletPimpernel writes:

hahaha!

I love it. God has a sense of humor, indeed. Almost every place and time these guys hold a conference it snows or freezes. It is also funny that they all have to jet to wherever they're going. sheesh.

The tide is turning though (thank you, thank you, the pun is all mine)
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Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 5:48 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Joe

There are only a few conclusions you can reasonably make about the leaders of the Chicken Little Club.

First would be that they are just incompetent, in which case no one would pay any attention to them once they were discredited.

Secondly, and my personal favorite, is the that they are just lousy scam artists. I may not agree with the morality of con artists but I can appreciate the intelligence of a well crafted and executed grift.

My problem with Dr. Hansen is that he certainly should possess the science to know that he is wrong but refuses to even work at perfecting his grift. The man is always out of sync with what most honest climate scientists are convinced is a 30 to 35 year cycle.

Hansen started his "big freeze" scare right at the very end of the last cooling period and then fails to start his warming scam until this recent "warming cycle" is nearly over. He is now 10 years late on predicting record cold temps. That's just stupid!

Gore runs a much better "dodge". He blames everything on a gas which no one can see and which doesn't do anything but make plants grow, but he has the advantage of being a politician and therefore a better liar.

The joke's on them! The country is broke!
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Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 6:02 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Ouch!

SP, you do have to be taken by the irony of so many of their conferences and speeches being spoiled by cold weather. I guess that's why they went to Bali for the big pow-wow a while back.

Surely one of them must realize that these alternative fuels they are pushing won't get one of those G-5's off the ground.

When Gore and company sell their jets and start buying dirigibles and sailing ships then I'll take them seriously.
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Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 6:22 PM Sue writes:

Sgt Relic

Yes, we have come to the realization that fire season no longer ends in October. It is a year round thing. Wow - you think? Good grief!

We actually had two small ones by us. Who knew? Apparently I was off in la la land.

I am with you on our carbon footprint here. Our state is one giant footprint hog. Where is Al "Green Me" Gore to beat us with a stick and tell us how bad we are?

Good grief. How do these people keep their jobs? Who do they sleep with to continue on?
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Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 8:14 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Sue

Your post begs a question. If you already live in la-la-land and you drift off into la-la-land, where do you actually go?

Now there is a mystery of the universe I had never before contemplated. It's right up there with: Why, if they don't taste different, do you get fewer red M&M's in a bag?

It is the burden of men to ponder these things.

As to who's zomin' who, given the cast of character in the AGW crowd I can't bring myself to even thing about it. The mere suggestion has conjured images too horrible to articulate!
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Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 10:23 PM Jimmy Carter writes:

I don't think they're..

..."zooming" anyone...such physical activity would burn calories, therefore cause heat, only exacerbating "global warming." Could that be the reason why they are perpetually PO'd?
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Thursday, November, 20, 2008 6:50 AM Sgt Relic writes:

JC

You may be right. I had thought that celibacy was a Catholic thing, while Gaia worship tended more toward the promiscuous. Maybe it's just the priesthood?

Speaking of promiscuity; what's up with Texas school systems? First we find out they are teaching identity theft and now teachers are sending nudie pictures to students!

What would you have to do to get thrown out of school system like that? Oh, I know, bring a bible to school!
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Thursday, November, 20, 2008 8:44 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Is Dr. R. Pachauri a PE?

When Gray Ghost was dating the future Mrs. Gray Ghost, her family (most of whom were train drivers with the ICG Railroad) used to ask me all the time, "What railroad company are you working for?" I would always answer, "I am not a train driver, I am training to be an engineer."

In the 1800's, train drivers were called "engineers" because they literally were "engineers" who also happened to drive a train. If Dr. Pachauri does not have a degree from an engineering university and passed a test to get his professional engineering LICENSE, then he is no more an "engineer" than my dog Heidi.

He is nothing more than a "train driver" at worst, or an engineering graduate at best. To be called a "Professional Engineer" or "engineer" requires:

1. Graduate of an accredited engineering school.

2. Pass two 8 hour exams on engineering.

3. A 4 year internship under another engineer with a PE license.

I get the distinct impression that Dr. Pachauri is nothing more than a "train driver".
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Thursday, November, 20, 2008 9:32 AM The Crawfish writes:

Sarge

I'm gonna make you famous. This story is gonna get linked in this week's The Weekly Claw at The Swamp and at vajoe.com. Well done.
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Thursday, November, 20, 2008 12:38 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Ghost

My father's people were all with CB&Q but they weren't train drivers. They were section leaders in charge of the Gandy Dancer crews. The major qualification, according my grandfather, was the ability to kick everybody else a**.

This character is a double PhD, one in Industrial Engineering and the other in Economics. I am at loss to explain how either of those disciplines translates to climate science.

It might be useful figuring out how many Indians can sit on the roof of a train car, but I don't think they'd let drive.
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Thursday, November, 20, 2008 12:50 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Thanks, Craw

I haven't had that much notoriety since I got kicked off GOPUSA.com for insulting the Administrator.
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Thursday, November, 20, 2008 2:07 PM Redhead writes:

Well, as an electric train driver

who has yet to take or pass his second 8 hour test, I've got to say that an "Industrial Engineer" is nothing more than someone who can tell you what side of the train is more comfortable.
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Thursday, November, 20, 2008 5:06 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Red

That's the guys! Also sometimes called "efficiency experts".

Here is today's final jeopardy answer is: A major production organization, famous for their efficient service, featuring an Industrial Engineering staff at all of their major production sites nationwide. [cue theme music]


The final question is: What is the United States Postal Service?

I rest my case!
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Thursday, November, 20, 2008 11:02 PM Darvin Dowdy writes:

One of the favorite tactics...

...of the radical left and the radical environmental movement is to simply deny, inwardly and outwardly, that the opposition even exists. And you know what? It seems to be working. They seem to be gaining power and we seem to be losing. Darvin Dowdy
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Friday, November, 21, 2008 12:50 AM Sue writes:

Sgt Relic

"Your post begs a question. If you already live in la-la-land and you drift off into la-la-land, where do you actually go?"
I don't know. I was for it before I was against it. I go to Disneyland. I got nothing.

Why does everyone believe all of this "green" is the gospel and if we don't follow along, we are going to spontaneous combust and leave a bigger footprint?

How did Al Gore become just a green head with all of these zombie followers?
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Friday, November, 21, 2008 5:38 AM Sgt Relic writes:

DD

I agree that the tactic has met with great success. The left controls the media and the education system. That my friend is a stacked deck.

It has become fashionable to be seen as 'green' and that appeals to a public that is enamored with celebrity. The one-eyed monster lurking in most family rooms today spews this junk science in an endless 24/7 loop, embedding it even into the dialog of popular dramas and children's shows.

The one thing that may save us from ourselves is the current financial crisis. People are already beginning to question whether or not we can afford to be "green".

We are already well into a cooling cycle as evidenced by Dr. Hansen trying to fudge the numbers to keep his lame theory viable until the public can be separated from their money. The left is well aware of how long, once enacted, it takes for a government regulation or tax to be removed.

I think our best hope is that the financial crisis delays it long enough for all the empirical data to emerge. No scam is fool proof and the longer you run it the more chance of somebody discovering the truth.

Delay is our best weapon.
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Friday, November, 21, 2008 6:41 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Sue

"Why does everyone believe all of this "green" is the gospel"...

That's an easy question. Because they saw it on TV!

Gore has been working on this scam for a long time but from the perspective of a politician. That is; to find something to tax and then try and profit from the redistribution.

Ask yourself the question: What do Nancy Pelosi and T. Boone Pickens have in common? I have conducted this little drill in varying combinations and the only answer I get is money. What have you got?
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Friday, November, 21, 2008 11:23 AM BrianR writes:

Of course,

this is why the issue's now labelled as "climate change" nowdays.

"Global cooling" in the 70s turned into "global warming" in the 90s, and both positions are unsustainable by the facts.

But "CLIMATE CHANGE"? Ah, that's a good one, because the climate's always "changing", and you've got your bases covered whichever way the wind shifts (intentional pun).

That let's you make terrific arguments like "global warming led to global cooling", and other such gems of insight.

I think the only climate these guys are really expert on is the one in their own colons, based on their personal observations, of course.

Taking an up close view of the situation, always.
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Friday, November, 21, 2008 12:03 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Funny thing

We are currently experiencing a fairly sustained snow storm. There is Global Warming falling all over the place! I had to clean the climate change off my windshield earlier.

The average temperature for this date is 61 degrees. I think it is being caused by all the reduced driving. The CO2 levels must be dropping like a rock.

Then again, Dr. Gray might be right when he said that the warm/cold cycles run 30-40 years. Not much money in that!

Did you catch where the national security threat analysis actually included the effect of global warming in the security assessment?

Man, we are in trouble!
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Saturday, November, 22, 2008 6:32 PM Sgt Relic writes:

crossbow

I can explain Ohio since you guys have real winters, what I want is an explanation for why my teeth are chattering in Virginia Beach!

We don't actually do winter here. Everybody still talks about the last time it snowed 18 inches. I'll give you a hint, Ronald Reagan had just been sworn in after beating Carter!

It's good to hear from you. I'll stop over at your place soon.
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Sunday, November, 23, 2008 12:07 AM Sue writes:

Sgt Relic

Okay, they saw it on tv and of course on the Internet. And everything on the Internet is true! I think I have heard that too much lately.

I still can't believe that everyone falls all over themselves to go green and looks down on you if they think if you have a huge carbon footprint. Well, bigfoot I am not.

As for Gore, he really needs to be investigated. And I have a feeling if Obama wanted him in his cabinet or surrounding himself with him and a background check was mandatory, Gore would run away.

As for Pelosi and T. Boone. At first I was thinking botox. But, I don't think Boone had that done. Then of course, money.
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Sunday, November, 23, 2008 7:25 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Sue

"Winner, winner, chicken dinner!"...Money is the correct answer.

I know a lot of people who talk about being "green" but really very few that do more than pay lip service to to it.

I believe those of us grew up in 50's were greener than they are today and we weren't trying to be green! Back then it was called being poor.

Consider, I never went to an air conditioned school or lived in an air conditioned house. We had one car, one TV, and a radio. I had a personal radio but it was crystal set I built myself and it used no AC or DC power.

Milk came in reusable glass bottles, as did soda. Soda bottle refunds were the primary source of income for enterprising kids.

There were almost no packaged foods and cooking fats got saved and reused by every Mom in Christendom. Cans and glass had to be separated into different cans on trash day.

We planted a tree at school every "Arbor Day" and had to learn that stupid song about trees that bend and sway.

The current financial situation will probably do more to "green" the U.S. than 40 Al Gore's could ever do.

Do you see how easy that works? I can now feel smug and superior just like the eco-idiots! HaHaHa!
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Sunday, November, 23, 2008 10:57 AM clyde writes:

Sgt.Relic

Thermometer outside on the tree is STILL at 18f. Global warming my azs. The only carbon footprint is going to be this size 8 snowboot on the Fraudacle's rump. WHEN will the investigation into this scam start? A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G connected to the u.n. has to viewed with suspicion. NASCAR has announced an industry wide green initiative. This issue TRULY has jumped the shark when frigging NASCAR says it is going green. What,they going to put a Prius out there? THAT ought to be exciting. This CoT they are using has made the racing B-O-R-I-N-G to say the least.Hmmm... Ford Fusion FFV? Chevy Impala SS-H?
Good grief!
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Sunday, November, 23, 2008 5:24 PM Sgt Relic writes:

"Green" NASCAR?

Now isn't that special? Do you think they'll use REVA's? They could call this one the "Merlot Series" races.

Clyde, do you ever get the impression that the world has changed and you didn't get the memo? I'm already a failure as a socialist and we haven't even really gotten started good yet.
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Monday, November, 24, 2008 10:58 AM clyde writes:

Sgt.Relic

Nope,didn't get the memo on that. My bad. Can you see it now,the extension cords flailing around the backstretch at Daytona? Tangling around the cars at Bristol? Could get a couple of debris cautions out of it,I suppose."Driver,bring it in for batteries and a solar panel tear-off". Hmmmm.... got about an inch of global warming on the driveway already.
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Monday, November, 24, 2008 3:25 PM skep41 writes:

Its So Obvious

If there had been ANY empirical evidence in the last twenty years that Global Warming has taken place it would be on every channel all the time every day. Every scrap of 'data' that these idiots produce is debunked within minutes; phony temperature readings, phony ice cap meltings, phony this, phony that.There was an article recently that talked of carbon in some soils which emits ten times the amount of CO2 than all human activity does. Its too late though. The political class has accepted the phony science because it is a perfect rationale for their anti-consumer agenda and because they are really, really smart in a way us normal hominids are too stupid to understand. You want cheaper energy---well a tidal wave is going to smash your house if you do, so THERE!
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Monday, November, 24, 2008 5:06 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Clyde

I suppose they could turn all of the raceway's into gianormous slot car tracks.

Face it, when one your sports top drivers parades around in Prada loafers espousing his love for Manhattan, Appletini's can't far behind. Your going to see #24 on the pink "Energizer Bunny" car.
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Monday, November, 24, 2008 5:39 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Skep

You are absolutely right about the science. If they had anything they would be beating us over the head with it.

I thought firing their "climate change" staff during "green week" was a particularly nice touch on the part of NBC. They probably saved Roker's life. I understand that the pack ice is forming with a vengeance this year.

Your Tsunami scenario assumes I will still own a home to be destroyed. The politicians don't care about science, they smell money. The race is on to see whether I can go broke before they can pass carbon taxes.

I'm still trying to figure out how these weekend robberies at the Treasury keep happening. Don't they have an alarm system? Do you suppose this is that legacy building thing everyone talks about at the end of a presidency?
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Monday, November, 24, 2008 10:16 PM The Crawfish writes:

The Weekly Claw

is no longer at vajoe.com. The Joe has been moved to http://www.allmilitary.com

This week's column is already posted at The Swamp.
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Tuesday, November, 25, 2008 12:50 PM davecatbone writes:

Tommy Flannagan

would be the PERFECT Secretary General for the UN. I love Jon Lovitz' comedy!
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Tuesday, November, 25, 2008 7:02 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Dave

It was one the all time great bits on SNL. When considering how best to lampoon Hansen it was my first instinct. Yeah, he'd be perfect at the U.N.
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Wednesday, November, 26, 2008 12:23 PM emjayne writes:

Sgt

Congrats on bringing this up again and I hope it travels a looonggg way!
It is getting so obvious that the GW crowd are off their rockers and are now only in it for the money.
Keep yelling!!
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Wednesday, November, 26, 2008 12:33 PM Sgt Relic writes:

emjayne

Thanks. I'll keep pounding but I think the game is rigged. This new congress should rightly be labeled the "Rubber Stamp" congress. We may see the whole liberal agenda passed in one fell swoop.

The founders must be spinning in the graves so fast that they could provide a new alternative energy source.
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Wednesday, November, 26, 2008 2:12 PM Peppermint2 writes:

I'm giving thanks tomorrow

for globull warming coming. Is it coming? Because we're cold here. It's been in the 20s at night and that's cold this time of year.

I hope when we all become homeless, the Goreacle can call in some of that carbon for all of us. He has the total market share on the stuff, so he ought to be able to "share the wealth" with it.

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Wednesday, November, 26, 2008 2:17 PM American Sweetheart writes:

pepp

lol I wish that was my source of thankfulness. It's snowy here :(

I only need snow once a year. Christmas Day. The rest I can do without.
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Wednesday, November, 26, 2008 6:33 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Pepp

We got some relief from the cold this week as that cold blast from Canada passed.

Now you're probably saying to yourself, "But Sarge, how could cold air be coming from Canada? All the ice melted and the polar bears all drowned! Red Nanny said so!"

Well the simple answer is that just as the eminent Dr. Hansen can screw up his math, even though he's a genius, sometimes politicans don't tell us the truth.

I know! The whole concept of it seems too incredible to believe! Our leaders possess an ability not available to the common people called nuance. A little nuance and presto! AGW becomes "climate change" and lies are transformed into misspeakings.

This is why they get Nobel prizes, wealth, and a secure job for life. It is also why they are willing to "rule" over us lesser beings.

That's what I'm giving thanks for tomorrow. I'm also inviting my new friend Mr. Blackshirt who is standing behind me right now.
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Wednesday, November, 26, 2008 6:51 PM Sgt Relic writes:

AS

I'm not a fan of the snow, or cold weather for that matter. Christmas of 2001 we had a big gathering at Christmas at our house.

In honor of the occassion, and so close on the heels of 9/11, I spent 3 weeks decorating the house and yard in a red white and blue motif with 50k lights and a herd of animated deer waving the American flag.

Choppers from the base south of us where using the house as a beacon. Ok, I got carried away.

Christmas eve it began to snow and covered up all my decorations. I might as well have simply spent 5 minutes hanging a wreath on the door! I hate snow! Snow is not patriotic! HaHa!
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Wednesday, November, 26, 2008 10:17 PM MJSJR writes:

Sgt Relic

They just do not get it. When have these people ever let facts get in their way. If they feel something is wrong facts don't matter.

I'm buying a PT Cruiser, How do you like that, environatzi's!!!

Be glad you only have one liberal Republican Governor, we had four in a row.. Weld, Cellucci, Swift, and Romney. It never ends...

New Post at my place, stop by.
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Thursday, November, 27, 2008 1:21 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Sarge

Get yourself some ugger lager dogs from down in the hollers here in KY. That will keep the black shirts away.

I can't believe the gubmint would lie to us. OMG, what a strange idea.

Remember how all these greenies screamed about how the Alaskan pipe line would decimate the caribou? Ha! Now they are populating like crazy.
Probably will have to bring wolves in too keep the numbers down now.
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Thursday, November, 27, 2008 6:02 AM Sgt Relic writes:

MJ

I am still bitterly clinging to my Town Car. It's comfortable, paid for, and comes with the added benefit of being big enough to live in if necessary.

Virginia is now officially blue. Gov. Timmy "The Eyebrow" Kaine, his predecessor and now our new senator Mark "I won the Alan Colmes look alike contest" Warner, (not to be confused with Gang of 14 John Warner(RINO-VA), who is retiring) and senator Jim "The Hair" Webb. All REAL LIVE DEMOCRATS!

All your homies from the North East leave their tax ridden states and come here. As soon as they do they try to turn it into the same kind of swamp they just left. I will never understand liberals.

Happy Thanksgiving! Thanks for stopping by.
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Thursday, November, 27, 2008 7:30 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Pepp

Jimmy thinks pigs are the way to go but I think that only works on muslims.

Some of these eco groups don't even talk to each other. My son did a summer internship in the Eastern KY wilderness area working on an Elk restoration project. In the Rockies, I think Colorado, a similar project was also doing very well.

A separate eco group introduced wolves in Colorado and presto, they reduced the Elk population by half. Apparently wolves find Elk very tasty. One would think that a bunch of PhD wildlife experts would have thought of that, but you'd be wrong.

I understand that Obama and McCain have cut a deal to complete the Hispanic restoration project in the spring. Ole!
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Thursday, November, 27, 2008 10:58 AM skep41 writes:

Sarge

Yeah, by the time these morons have implemented their full program we'll be sitting homeless on the beach praying to the God Of Global Warming to send a tidal wave to put us out of our misery...
Does the New Age Of Change mean that we all get kicked out of our houses and they stand there empty while we're homeless? That's taking redistribution a little bit too far, if you ask me.
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Thursday, November, 27, 2008 11:06 AM BrianR writes:

Sarge


Happy Thanksgiving, pard.

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Friday, November, 28, 2008 6:38 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Skep

I looked at one of those online maps that shows Big Al's ocean level predictions. First, let me preface by saying that I don't usually trust scientific maps done in crayon. That being said, I looks like I'll be living on an island.

Becoming homeless is the hard part but after you achieve homeless status then you are allowed to break into the empty houses and declare squatter's rights.

As you know I am a heavily armed bitter clinger, so I should get a good pick. This comes with the added benefit bestowed by the election which clearly marked with signs, all those who will have to leave my island.

I haven't decided what to call my island yet but the original one will be underwater so maybe I'll call it Jamestown in honor of my son who will succeed me as hereditary ruler.

So hold up on that Tsunami, I may not be ready to go yet. HaHaHa!

Happy Thanksgiving to yet.
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Friday, November, 28, 2008 6:40 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Same to you, Brian

I hope you had a nice one.
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Monday, December, 01, 2008 8:59 PM JDW writes:

Sarge

Maybe they figure that we are dumb enough to elect out right communists then maybe they don't have to give us real facts

Thanks for stopping by my blog a while back
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Monday, December, 01, 2008 11:15 PM Georgetwin writes:

Sgt Relic

New Post at My Place!
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Tuesday, December, 02, 2008 6:07 AM Sgt Relic writes:

JDW, GT

JDW - They may be right! I, for one, am hugely disappointed in our socialists.

Aren't they supposed to tell the world that we will lower CO2 and then do the exact opposite? What kind of half-witted Marxism is this?

GT - I'll be right over.
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Friday, December, 05, 2008 7:19 PM Bobbie writes:

Sarge, this whole climate

thing is nothing more than one big scam, fraud, hijink, shell game, prank on the American public and Al Gory and his phoney "scientists" need to be lined up before a firing squad.
Great post, as usual.

Thanks Sarge.
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Saturday, December, 06, 2008 5:56 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Bobbie

They are now saying that 2008 will be the coldest year of the decade but we shouldn't take that as meaning that global warming isn't still taking place.

Apparently unless you hold higher degrees in climate science you can't understand how getting colder really means it's getting warmer. It's Orwellian science.

In the end, there just isn't any money to be made in climate change being a natural process. They better move fast since it looks like the economy will kill climate change before science does.
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Saturday, December, 06, 2008 8:43 AM James writes:

hypocracy of it all

read

http://workingclassview.blogtownhall.com/2008/11/07/gorebal _warming_and_robert_kennedy_jr.thtml
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Saturday, December, 06, 2008 9:17 PM Sgt Relic writes:

James

Thanks for the link. I left a comment.
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Saturday, December, 06, 2008 9:29 PM Sue writes:

Sgt Relic

While going into Macy's today, two people stepped forward and tried to give me a sheet of paper. They were quite pushy.

Anyway, it was a couple of paragraphs on global warming/climate change. Then there was a paragraph on Al Gore and all of his help! Oh please. I was quite fascinated with the typos myself. When I was done reading it, I gave it back and told them that I don't do scams thank you very much. There was a guy next to me laughing too. He started going off about Gore being a big wind bag.

The two people with these sheets of papers, got quite nasty and said that we don't care about the climate. That's right buddy. Then one said I bet you have an SUV. That's right buddy! Gas guzzling and all! And as I was walking away, I told them I voted for McCain. Oh the horror.

First off, if you are out promoting a cause, going nasty does not help your cause. When will these people learn.
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Saturday, December, 06, 2008 10:25 PM James writes:

Re: A few thoughts

I see were you are coming from. I agree about natural gas and it's use for autos. I think wind can be a supplimental source because wind doesn't blow enough all the time. There are other technologies being researched. I think fuel cells are a farce. But if we used just the hydrogen from a fuel cell and burned it instead of creating electricity we may get something. Any way other energy sources need to be explored. Real viable ones. I am starting to see through Pickens since the election. Especially when his plan was up for vote in Cali. While prop 8 was passed to ban gay marriage, Pickens plan was voted down because of it's cost to tax payers to get the infrastructure going. He has enough money to start it if he was really serious. I think he is more interested in the profits instead.
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Sunday, December, 07, 2008 6:09 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Heretic!

An SUV! The 21st century equivalent of consorting with demons.

The whole debate, which is over you know, always devolves into name calling whenever you engage someone who is motivated by politics or the even stranger religion of climate change.

At least Dr. Hansen tries to gimmick the science to make it appear that he's right. Heck, he may even believe it! Scientist's tend to become defensive about their theories which gets in the way of the scientific method.

I lay no claim to any expertise in climate science but what I know about science tells me that science is logical. If you plug a constant into the scientific method that is actually a variable, you will get an answer that won't stand up to peer review.

Maybe the climate kids should have said something bad about your Mama; that always works! LOL!

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Sunday, December, 07, 2008 7:30 AM Sgt Relic writes:

James

There are several different elements that tend to get lumped together in the climate debate. I think they picked CO2 because it is almost impossible to prove or disprove in any observable fashion.

Addressing strictly the energy issue, hydrogen has a number of draw backs. First, hydrogen has already been burned and must be removed from it's by-product H2O. This requires electrolysis using an electrical source and returns only about 30-40% usable energy.

Hydrogen has a problem of volume. While it has roughly 2.6 times more power per pound than gasoline, it takes up more space so it delivers 4.5 times less energy per gallon. I suppose if you don't mind stopping for hydrogen 4.5 times more often than stopping for gas, it's great.

The only way to get net positive energy from hydrogen is to extract it from methane by reacting methane with water but the result releases carbon monoxide and CO2 and we're right back at the climate debate.

Plus, the resulting hydrogen produces less energy than you would get from just using the methane with the same side effects.

The question becomes: How do we produce inexpensive and efficient energy, keep the air breathable, not damage the food supply and simultaneously stop using the most efficient energy source available without destroying our economy?

We are not addicted to oil. We are married to the most compact, inexpensive power source available. This is the real hypocrisy of the Al Gore's of the world. He can actually afford to be "green", and he isn't.

If price is no object then we can be as green as we want to be. Of course, we can't blame China and the rest of the world if they decide to stick to the cheap stuff.
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Sunday, December, 07, 2008 8:58 AM James writes:

Sgt Relic

A lot of research is being done to use hydrogen as a fuel. Some ways of containment are being look into such as metal hydrates etc. Other ways of producing it are also being looked into. While electrolysis is the simplest it is not the most efficient. but there is being research being done to make electrolysis more efficient. Also exactly CO2 is being pointed at as the culprit. But what they don't ge is that natural gas ( methane) is even worse greenhouse gas than CO2. It is natural given off everywhere. The ocean bubbles wit the stuff because it is under so much pressure it is naturally being released. Then there are the land fills and sewage treatment plants.Right now they are only worried about cow flatulence not any of the other real sources. That is because the other sources are usually under gov. control.

Algae generated fuels also look promising. But are far off. But again none of the big heads really want us to be greener. They just want their pockets greener. Gore was unemployed he needed a job, so he became an "expert" on gorebal warming.
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Sunday, December, 07, 2008 1:04 PM Sgt Relic writes:

James

In the end it's all about money and control.

Theory is a poor basis for making the kinds of decisions government wants to make in the name of "doing something".
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Thursday, December, 18, 2008 10:37 AM The Crawfish writes:

The newest spin...

the fact that we are seeing much colder than usual temperatures and snow much farther south than normal PROVES that man-made global warming is REAL!

The Gorons have been smokin' the crack again.
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Thursday, December, 18, 2008 10:50 AM Sgt Relic writes:

HaHaHa!

You nailed it, Craw. Snow in Las Vegas! Absolute proof that the planet is getting warmer.

I couldn't say that with a straight face if my life depended on it.
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Thursday, December, 18, 2008 5:31 PM crossbow writes:

Sarge

how about the snow in las vagas!!!
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Thursday, December, 18, 2008 6:24 PM Sgt Relic writes:

crossbow

Ain't it a hoot!

It's a record snowfall for Vegas and that means "climate change" is accelerating. It's accelerating alright; it's getting COLDER!
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Tuesday, December, 23, 2008 5:01 PM emjayne writes:

Sgt

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
marge
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Thursday, December, 25, 2008 8:25 AM Nee writes:

Merry Christmas!!

PS...don't you know that by having a Christmas Tree with regular, not LED lights, we are contributing!! We are soooo bad!

Merry Christmas!
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Thursday, December, 25, 2008 9:34 AM Sgt Relic writes:

HaHaHa!

Merry Christmas to you, Nee.

Yes! I am an energy hog at Christmas. I had as my goal to become a public nuisance, which I achieved in 2001 when gawkers hit my neighbors parked car.

Since then I have rested on my laurels, although, the guard mail chopper from the base just south of us still uses the house to pick up their bearing for the approach to NAS Norfolk.

I planted a tree once so I have zero guilt!

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Thursday, December, 25, 2008 12:44 PM skep41 writes:

Sarge

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Adventure lies ahead in the new world our children are creating. My New Year's Resolution is to get a 4.85% 40-year mortgage...that way I'll be 97 when its paid off and I can retire. Have a great Christmas!
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Friday, December, 26, 2008 6:16 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Skep

It's a good plan, probably only derailed by the real possibility that national healthcare will kill you long before your 97.
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Wednesday, December, 31, 2008 4:23 PM emjayne writes:

hey sgt~

Happy New Year!!! Where have you been? Here it is almost Jan and your last post was Nov!! :-)))
Hope you and yours are OK and headed for a great new year...I am trying to remain hopeful!!

New post at my blog .
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Wednesday, December, 31, 2008 6:18 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Happy New Year emjayne!

I've been laying low through the holidays, enjoying family and friends and eating too much. I'll fire up the old blog again in January.

2009 should prove to be a target rich environment for bloggers, so I need to rest up.

I'll be over soon.
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