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Potpourri Pot

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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 9:22 AM Gray Ghost writes:

The South Was Stupid to Secede...

in 1861. I am a Southerner (who has studied the Civil War for over 40 years) and can say this. At the time, we (the South) controlled the US Senate. We should have stayed in the Union and fought it out in the US Congress. Today (2009), secession should be the "Last Fatal Act of Defiance", and only put into "play" for reasons of a Constitutional crisis (gun confiscation, forced euthanasia, etc.).

Now for the "Potpourri Pot":

I am thinking along the lines of the Constitutional crisis, so therefore:

"Molon labe!"

And the nice thing is that the above quotation works so well with just about any "Constitutional crisis". You have to hand it to the Greeks. Not only do they give the Western world so many things (democratic government, advanced mathematics, etc.); but also they give us a great "come back" of defiance.
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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 9:35 AM MD/MG writes:

I blew a telemarketer's mind

She was calling to help me get 'rid of my credit card debt'. Now Mr. MD and I have that debt because we put our vacation on plastic, then pay it off when we get home.

I told the twinkie that I wasn't interested. After she insisted she could help us I dropped a bomb on her. Something she probably never heard before and probably never will again. "This is my debt. It's a contract between us and our credit card company that we intend to fulfill and pay in full." Her reaction? Your kidding, right?

Oversight. Another word to watch out for.

Integrity severely lacking in this world.

Insightful, thought-provoking, rant producing. Mrs.AL's blog.........priceless ;-}
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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 9:45 AM Donnie writes:

Gray Ghost

That last fatal Act Of Defiance is coming because in your heart YOU KNOW Gun Confiscation,forced euthanasia,etc is in the Obamunists plan.
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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 11:05 AM Saltwater writes:

Today's morning drive radio rant

by a local host, Mike Broomhead (No joke, that's his real name), on bipartisanship is worth sharing.

Pittsburgh beat the Arizona in the Super Bowl. We didn't hear the Cardinals crying because the Steelers wouldn't let them carry the trophy too. Why should they? Pittsburgh won.
Republicans are complaining about the Democrats lack of bipartisanship. Why? They lost. The Dems won, and don't need to share.

The question I have ---
We also didn't hear a peep from any Pittsburgh player that none of the Cards would help them carry that heavy old trophy. Why would they want their help? Arizona lost.
So, why are the Dems whining about the GOP's lack of bipartisanship?

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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 1:44 PM The Crawfish writes:

I'm STILL looking

for the authorization for the federal gummint to have any say in the private business contracts between employer and employee.
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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 6:00 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

The South Was Stupid to Secede...

That was then, Gray Ghost, and this is now IMHO. I keep going back to the Declaration of Independence and compare and contrast what the “crown” did to the colonies with what this national gov is doing to us now. We can agree to disagree on this and that’s ok in my book.

“Molon labe” indeed. Unfortunately, I don’t see any Plutarch-like people occupying elected offices! Yea, the Greeks gave us a lot. Too bad they don’t have any spare spines to lend to elected officials or even some of us – tic, sort of.
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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 6:01 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

I blew a telemarketer's mind

This is classic, MD/MG. Your interaction with that teleshyster should be a lesson to all when these phone calls come. You have a quick mind and I am going to file this response in my wee little brain and hope for the opportunity to use it!

“Oversight” is a great word to add to the “watch list.” Hey, now WE have a watch list. I love it. Thanx!
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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 6:02 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Donnie

Say, what are your thoughts about this policeman going to have a beer with the President? Was kind of hoping to get your perspective on that.
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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 6:05 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Today's morning drive radio rant

“Broomhead” is a good name. Sounds like someone who sweeps the cobwebs out of the way in order to see things more clearly.

In my way of thinking, “bipartisanship” today simply means the same policies, just couched in different language or moving more slowly to a bad outcome. Say, guess that word needs to go on our “Watch List,” eh? Thanx, Saltwater! Your moniker says it all.
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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 6:06 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

I'm STILL looking

Well, Crawfish, you will find what you are looking for resting in the non-elected imams, I mean czars, now in control of things.
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Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 6:26 PM Donnie writes:

Mrs. AL

Crowley should not go,but I suspect his bosses are insisting on it.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 7:33 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Donnie

Really? And he can't tell his "superiors" to fly a kite? I just don't buy that one. This has nothing to do with Cambridge. Where am I wrong?
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 7:58 AM Donnie writes:

Mrs. AL

I don't know how it works way up North,but down here in Florida if the Sheriff tells you to go meet the POTUS,you go or find another job.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 8:16 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Policing + Politics?

Gee Donnie. Was not aware it was that bad. How do the police people do their jobs in Florida? I know there are internal politics involved (intra-departmental), but this being ordered to D.C. is kind of a new idea for me. Guess I am just ignorant on the issue.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 11:37 AM Jim writes:

Pot addition

A conservative will always tell you he is a conservative when he runs for office.

A Marxist will always tell you he is a conservative when he runs for office.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 1:46 PM Shadow95 writes:

The Blue dogs

only scratched the surface-of this Owellian nightmare. The asheap of history is piled high with the debris of countries who have went down this dead end street of government total control---Our America must not come to that---it is time for WE the people....AGAIN. It is NOT too late.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 2:26 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

The Jim Pot Addition


Say, got anyone specific in mind when you say that?
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 2:29 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

shadow95’s Blue Dogs

plus, assuming it’s accurate, the justice department’s dropping charges against members of the New Black Panther Party who were caught on tape breaking federal election law = bruising of this Republic that is abusive and sinister.

But who ya’ gonna’ call?
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 2:39 PM never say die writes:

Its funny

since we are "in the worse crisis sence the great depresion" the solution the brainics in washington have is more spending. go figure.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 2:44 PM Blackwater 79 writes:

good post!

I just started to comment here and what I have read here at townhall is great!! you all are truly are on the frount lines!
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 2:54 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

never say die, Welcome!

Really like your handle. Welcome to Our Posterity.
Could not agree more that only those … people … in DC would use a formula like the one you outlined. I will be watching for you in other comment threads.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 2:56 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

M R, Welcome!

Welcome to Our Posterity and welcome to TownHall! This is a great forum for getting things off one’s chest and find some humor amidst all the whoha going on. I will be looking for you in other comment threads.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 4:43 PM Blackwater 79 writes:

Thank you Mrs AL

conservatives are under fire in this country-as well as the values that have kept us free for over 200 years!! It just sickens me to see those who are pushing a Socialist system on this great nation. Have any of them ever seen what it was like in Soviet Russa??You have another conservative warrior on your side here!!!!
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 5:00 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

OK, speed racer ...

Did you change your handle since you were hear before or have I been out in the sun too long? Haha.

Trust you are having a good time reading and commenting. Heck, maybe you will start a blog of your own soon!
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 7:30 PM Blackwater 79 writes:

Yeah-because

someone told me I could not use it becuse of the movie!! I always supported Blackwater (it was founded by a NAVY Vet) and another townhall commentator is using the nickname I added the year I graduated high school and went in the NAVY. I belive this one will stick!!
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 7:42 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Blackwater 79 ...

it is. Again, welcome and hope you are having a good time reading and commenting!
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 7:50 PM Sue writes:

Mrs. Al (Always Learning)

My state is sad. We have a budget and lawsuits are flying. Evil us.

Lets see, the entire healthcare mess is all because of private insurance companies. They are immoral and the real villain in all of this, so said Speaker Potato Head.

New attack coming on obesity. It is the new buzz word. Reason for such high care costs. Stop the insanity.

The cash for clunkers program is out of money. It was supposed to end in October. Hmmm...I smell a bailout and a clunker czar coming.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 7:54 PM dawndawn writes:

Potpourri Pot

Nice post and thread, Mrs. AL! I will add these little nuggets to your Poptpourri Pot:

"Let me be perfectly clear"
"jobs saved or created"
"this massive deficit we inherited"
"Worse than the Great Depression"
"You can keep your health coverage"
"George W. Bush did it!"

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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 7:55 PM Gar Swaffar writes:

Another word

To be careful of:
Bi-Partisan.
Meaning of course, BOTH sides lose.
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Thursday, July, 30, 2009 10:21 PM Sue writes:

Dawn

Let me be perfectly clear.....I never want to hear that lame thing again!!!
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Friday, July, 31, 2009 7:25 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

And The Pot Thickens

Dawn you are so right about those pot additions. Gotta’ agree 100%. I also agree with Sue about never wanting to hear “let me be perfectly clear” again. He’s clear as mud when he says it. “Transparency” my foot! Hey, another Watch Word!

And Gar you are right on target with “Bi-Partisan.” Indeed, both sides lose!

Gosh Sue, my State is “sad” also. Wonder where we could go to get away from all this gaaarbaaaage. Your commentaries are spot on and thanx for adding them to the pot.
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Friday, July, 31, 2009 9:29 AM never say die writes:

Thanks Mrs AL

I learned early in life that you just cannot give up when you got the right spirit and a "never say die" attitude---a lesson proved many times over. It was true for me when I was in the Army (just missed Vietnam) and it is 100%true today because God gives us that spirit!! The spending in washington is "unstainable" and all the lawmakers need to see is what is happening with the "cash for clunkers" plan--the same thing will happen to our econimy if government run health care is passed.
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Friday, July, 31, 2009 7:09 PM Neocon_Slayer writes:

The South was Right to secede...

The Union no longer served their best interests, and the people of the South knew something that Americans are totally ignorant of today: you don't reason w/a tyrant, and you can't compromise w/someone who's trying to enslave you.

That said, it was probably rash to fire on Sumter and give Lincoln an excuse to become Dictator.
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Friday, July, 31, 2009 7:18 PM MD/MG writes:

just abit off topic

saw your comment on Burt Prelutsky's article. Very well said.
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Friday, July, 31, 2009 7:43 PM dawndawn writes:

Girl Howdy, Mrs. AL & Sue!

We don`t wanna hear nuthing that prez has to say! Including these catch phrases, "my economic team, my defense team, my health care team, my medical team, my military team, my green team, my energy team, my environmental team, my education team, my legal team, my judicial team, my homeys team, my food police team, my media team, my blindfold team, my date night team, my beer team, my my my .... "
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Saturday, August, 01, 2009 7:32 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Never say die Attitude

Well said and you are welcome. I admit there are times when I “feel” so overwhelmed that I do let the “never say die” attitude lapse. Funny, though, it doesn’t last.
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Saturday, August, 01, 2009 7:34 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

A E libertarian

Welcome to Our Posterity! Interesting handle you have there. Thanx for visiting and commenting. I have received a new point of view relative to the South’s secession and tend to agree with you. While others do not, that’s ok too. What’s fascinating is to contemplate what would have happened had Sumter not been fired on at the time. Unfortunately this current crop of … people … in D.C. don’t leave us much time to think on these things.

I’ll be looking for you in the comment threads.
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Saturday, August, 01, 2009 7:35 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Oz and MD/MG

Thanx for the compliment, I tend to read Burt’s columns. I commented and have not been back. Very thoughtful of you to come here and comment on the Lizard of Oz situation!
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Saturday, August, 01, 2009 7:37 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

“My” Dawn

YES! You have zeroed in on the language hingepin of this President. A simple little word that clearly and distinctly expresses his underlying mindset. Amazing how much you can learn by just listening, isn’t it? What’s so doggone frightening is the number of U.S. Citizens who aren’t catching on!
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Saturday, August, 01, 2009 10:03 AM Neocon_Slayer writes:

Mrs. AL, the time may come when

full sovereign power reverts back to the States.

Our central govt is so far in debt that it will never be able to pay it back.

We're talking 10's of $$$TRILLION$$$...that much money doesn't exist and will be the death of the current USA.

After the collapse, one of two things will happen:

1. The States will forcibly (by the remaining central govt) be merged into some kind of regional or global govt, and that'll be the end of liberty in America and possibly the world

2. The States will reassert their independence and we will, at least, have a chance at regaining a measure of liberty


I am not very hopeful that the outcome will be good. People in this country are almost completely ignorant of what liberty even is.
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 12:10 AM Gar Swaffar writes:

I'm grateful

Boxer and DiFi weren't twins.
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 3:15 AM Sue writes:

Mrs. Al (Always Learning)

Oh clunkers live on. Hey, do people realize that the $1 billion dollars for this program came out of the stimulus and our tax dollars are funding the stimulus. So basically people who are getting cash for clunkers are basically stimulating themselves. Hmmm.....
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 10:58 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Austrian Economics libertarian

Death of the current “USA” is most certainly a possibility. What concerns me most is what happens to those generations after me. The ability to work, fail, succeed, and die in liberty is precious. I bet if you ask 20 people the definition of “liberty” and probe their responses fully you will find at the core the same base distinctions between “liberals” and “conservatives.”

I mentioned I would be watching for you in the threads and guess what … I found you at BrianR’s place. Unfortunately what I found was not positive … “…. THIS is the model of 'conservatism' the idiots here at TH hold up as a measuring stick? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

To clarify, I am not an ‘idiot’ here at TH. In addition, I love God. I don’t “love” guns in the same way as they are inanimate objects. I may say 'I love my Kimber,' but the word “love” is used in different contexts and means something very different.
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 10:59 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Oh No, Not Twins!

Good grief, Gar, you sure know how to stir up nightmarish visions. Wait a minute, maybe they have clones that have been cosmetically altered. Possibility?
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 11:00 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Stimulating Themselves

That’s funny, Sue! Unfortunately, my tax money also goes to this obnoxious program. Does that make me guilty of aiding and abetting?
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 2:17 PM Neocon_Slayer writes:

Mrs. AL, there are exceptions here at TH

No doubt.

I find BrianR to be an old blowhard, who has been very rude to me on occasion, so he gets back what he gives in that dept.

I was referring to the overall tone and composition of the place, the writers, most of the bloggers, and posters.

Take my Ronald Reagan reference: WHY do so many cons insist on holding him up as a model when he did the exact OPPOSITE of what he said he was gonna do?

Where was the outrage when GW/Repub Congress expanded govt the most since LBJ (at least)?

It is this kind of lack of ability to admit reality that gets me riled up.

On the "God" thing: I assume 100% of TH folks here are Christians, who also seem to support unending war and conlfict which kills MILLIONS of innocents. I'm sorry, but THAT is what I call hypocritical.

FYI: I, too, love guns, and love God's LAWS (10 Commandments + JC's teachings specifically) if not a believer in a literal Christian God. However, I don't see too much fidelity to these Laws from most cons--they, like libs, have placed Govt above God, which is a dang shame.

You have a very nice manner online, so you'll get no grief from me.

Take care.

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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 2:24 PM Neocon_Slayer writes:

My definition of Liberty (for now)

It is the right to life, property, freedom-of-conscience, and the non-encroaching disposition of each.

Any govt that goes beyond securing these rights is too big, imo.

I honestly believe that most Founders would see us as something approximating serfs, if not outright slaves/indentured servants, today.

It is incredible that folks here still think of themselves as being "free" and see their oppressors as actual protectors.
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 5:01 PM Saltwater writes:

If your Obamacare provider asks

about your favorite color and preference in music -- RUN.
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 5:02 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Austrian Economics libertarian

I appreciate you stopping by to clarify. I don’t agree with your characterization of BrianR, the overall tone and composition of TH, the writers and most of the bloggers and posters. I appreciate you perceive I have a “very nice manner” online, but I am a TH blogger and poster who contributes to the overall tone and tenor of the place.

That said and in keeping with my past career AND assuming you have the time, please define/clarify what you mean by “non-encroaching disposition of each.” (I am a nag when it comes to generalizations. I work to keep that in check here at TH. I can be a real pain at times). Thanx.
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 5:25 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Run, Saltwater, Run!!

Hahaha! Excellent. Great one-liner and I just may have to use this in a letter to those ... people ... in D.C.
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Sunday, August, 02, 2009 6:54 PM Neocon_Slayer writes:

Like I said Mrs. AL, there are

exceptions to the rule, here.

You are not a "nag" at all for asking for clarification, and I appreciate your desire for clarity.

To "encroach" is to invade another's person/property in some way. I think ideas of encroachment will probably vary from person-to-person, culture-to-culture and even region-to-region.

An example:

You and I are neighbors, living in a typical suburban development/tract home. I am a nightowl who stays up late (say until 1-2 A.M.) listening to rap music very loudly--so loud, in fact, that I keep you (who are an early-to-bed person) up nights. My actions and music are now encroaching on your person/property by the sound drifting over to your place. Now, I have a right to own stereo equipment and to listen to it on my own property. However, I don't have a right to listen to it in a way that encroaches on your right to sleep and be free on your property.
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 10:13 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

AE libertarian Probe

Thanx for using an example to illustrate your POV. That’s always preferable to someone like me. Dictionary definitions almost always lack subtly and true understanding on the part of the person using the generalization. Would like to probe a little further:

WHAT is the proper remedy and WHO is responsible for the remedy? Please be as specific as possible. I have sensitive ears and can’t tolerate very loud music even in my own home – haha.
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 12:48 PM never say die writes:

Be Strong

Mrs Al. You,Crawfish,BrainR, and others are standing on solid ground. It can easly be overwhelming but --you are not alone and solid ground is never shaken.
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 12:56 PM Tiger eye writes:

Mrs AL

I am new here and I just have to comment and say do these braniacs in Washington really think we are stupid?? I mean The TEA parties alone sent a very real message!!and that message is ENOUGH! alraady!
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 1:17 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

never say die’s Solid Ground

Thanx for the encouragement, it’s always appreciated. I am looking for you in some of comment threads! Scary, huh?
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 1:19 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

"ENOUGH Already," says I of the Tiger

Welcome to TH! Hope you are enjoying yourself thus far. Great place to vent and learn as well. All I got to say about the whole thing is that IMO, this President is operating under the belief that “you can fool all the people all the time.” He does believe his agenda will not be challenged to the point of failure.

Interesting handle you have there. Why did you choose “I of the Tiger”?
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 2:04 PM Patrick Bohan writes:

10th Amendment

I would like to see states first fight the federal government using the 10th amendment before any state secedes the union.
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 2:47 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

10th Amendment v Secession

Patrick, in a nation of laws where laws actually matter and in a nation where there is respect for the Constitution and an understanding of it's origins, I would 100% agree with you, Gray Ghost, et al.

I don't see the States willing to take their rightful place any longer. All 50 cower and submit to that which they likely know is not in the best interest of their States' and Citizens.

If you have the time and patience, PLEASE show me where I am wrong and give me concrete examples of the States' responding via the 10th Amendment. Remember, I am Always Learning!
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 3:25 PM Eric writes:

Mrs. Al

Back and in Action!

I think Dawn already said what I was thinking. They just keep blaming Bush!

I'm wondering if the next president will be as transparent as this one.
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 5:10 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Mr. and Mrs. Eric

Congrats, you got back from your honeymoon and congrats again to you both!

Hey, Eric, good to have you back and in action. I will be coming by (probably tomorrow) to see what you have up -- assuming you have already posted something.

Sure, the next president will be as transparent as a burka! Just like this one, the way things are going.
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Monday, August, 03, 2009 8:42 PM Neocon_Slayer writes:

Mrs. AL

ASKED:

"""""WHAT is the proper remedy and WHO is responsible for the remedy?"""""
_________________________________________________

I would say this is the proper function of local courts and/or agreed-upon arbiters. I guess you could just ask me to be more considerate (in the ex.), and if I refused you could file a petition in the courts to have your grievance w/me redressed. An injunction could be had, and maybe monetary damages as well.
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Tuesday, August, 04, 2009 1:40 AM Sue writes:

Mrs. Al (Always Learning)

Yes you are aiding and abetting. But how come I am stimulating this and I am not getting anything for it....Where is the LOVE???
Clunk me!
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Tuesday, August, 04, 2009 1:41 AM Sue writes:

Hi Dawn

And don't forget, my czars. You know all 32 of them and their looney tunes agendas.
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Tuesday, August, 04, 2009 11:03 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Austrian Economics libertarian

Yea, my first step would be to talk with the person and try and reason with them. IMHO we need to be more gutsy and confront one-another (respectfully, of course) as the first step.

Thanx for the additional info. Now I can analyze your thread comments – just kidding, sorta’.
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Tuesday, August, 04, 2009 11:04 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Me? Aiding and Abetting?

Well you just took the bloom off this day, Sue – haha.
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Tuesday, August, 04, 2009 12:59 PM never say die writes:

I read

a lot !!so far I have commented on Your blog-Snow Knight ,and Crawfish swamp--so many blogs--so little time!!!speaking of such is there anyone on the stage we can rally for in 2010?? and 2012??
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Tuesday, August, 04, 2009 5:23 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

never say die

Hey, sounds like you are tooling right along. Keep reading is all I have to say. When I first came here, I used to read a lot of blogs. I know it can keep you busy. There are so many great blogs here!

As for your Q, let me turn the tables on you if I may ... who would YOU like to see on the stage for us to rally around?

I am no longer party sensitive per se. As far as I have studied, they are just two sides to the same coin at this point in time. Yes, there are exceptions but party per se is done at this point for me.
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