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Comment on: "one eighty"

Too Little Too Late

30 Comments

Not at all!

The Dems have been calling our President every name in the book. Why would they be surprised that Chavez felt so confortable paroting what they have said?

I never liked that "but he's our bad guy" argument.

Sandra

Their insanity is coming back to haunt them...:)

I think the Republicans have the opportunity for some great campaign adds...Pelosi, Rangel, Chavez side by side, with talking points they used agaisnt Bush...

Good to hear from you!:)

More of the same

I'm sure there is a political angle to what these two said. What I really hope is that They refuse to acknowledge the repeating of their own words and it comes back to bite them. It would be nice if they had to spend the rest of the election period on defense against their own words. The best part is that they can't claim they were taken out of context.

James Biga

That's a great point! "It would be nice it they had to spend the rest of the election period on defense agaisnt their own words"...wouldn't that be fun to watch?

"The best part is they can't claim they were taken out of context"...HA! I love it!!!!:)

Thanks for checking in!

Contact

If you would be so kind ma'am would you email me at gregmc@safeguard.net?

gregmc

Thanks for checking in! I read your bio, and you've experienced quite a change in your perspective! From Left to Right...glad you're on the right side now!

Thanks for your email address, I'll check in a little later.

Jimmy Carter

I saw you on Sandra's blog...are you boycotting me, or have I lost my touch?...I need you around to keep me on track!:)

Miss your repartee!:)...

After reading this...

..."After years of listening to these buffoons call President Bush every name in the book, watching Bill Clinton, Algore, Jimmy Carter and John Kerry...." I thought you didn't like me...

Also, reading a foreign word as "batooskies" sounds as though the Kremlin has gotten a hold of you. I may personally de-program you before allowing you to cross the border into God's Country, The Republic of Texas....please tell me your husband has never used that word....

Jimmy Carter

I'm laughing...I guess I should have said... Jimmy Carter (not our Jimmy Carter)...

"Batooskies"...no my husband, being from the great state of Texas, has never used that term...he has been accused of "not speaking english" quite often while living here on the Left coast though... and thanks for the de-probraming...maybe they'll let me into God's country with your help...:)

At Townhall we have to use "foreign languages" every now and then to get our point accross...the Kremlin hasn't gotten to me yet...:)

Thanks for checking in...and for the laugh.:)

Sheila...

..."he has been accused of 'not speaking english'." That is funny.....great laugh...

Jimmy Carter

He speaks "Texan"...:)

Come to think of it, after living in Kalifornia, I'm probably going to need some major de-programing...I may be beyond help...*!*!:)

Shelia!!!

Love ya, Sister...

"After years of listening to these buffoons call President Bush every name in the book, watching Bill Clinton, Algore, Jimmy Carter and John Kerry travel abroad for the purpose of spewing hatred against our President and our country, NOW Pelosi, and Rangel are OUTRAGED?"

OK, for most of the idiots you mention I can understand for purely political reasons, but Jimmy Carter??

I mean sheesh...am I the only one who's starting to think that this guy has taken a blood oath with Satan to personally fellate each and every dictator and despot on the planet before he dies??

Why won't this guy shut up already? And why does anybody continue to take Him seriously??

Wow..maybe I shouldn't get started....

Don't they just love America

Sheila these people [Pelosi, Reid, Dingel, etc.] have been bashing Bush in the worst way since he became President.

Clinton, Gore & that senile old fool Carter don't care waht they say about Bush around the world, then come home and act like they didn't do anything wrong.

What's amazing about the Dems

is that you can playback one of their comments right in front of them, and they swear they never said it!

I don't remember any well known Republican ever calling Democrat Presidents the kinds of names that have been thrown at Bush. I know that they think that they are getting back at us for Clinton, but "Slick Willie" the worst we could come up with, brought his shame on himself.

Zeus

Doesn't it drive ya nuts????....:)

Here's one of the worst presidents we've had to endure...(not our townhall Jimmy Carter)... and he's traveling the world, in Germany giving interviews with duh Speigel, acting as thought he's some kind of foreign policy expert...it could drive you to drink...

Sounds like you are a little griped at Jimma...join the club...:)

I'll listen if you'd like to get it off your chest...:)

Thanks for chimming in with your disgust...it makes me feel a little better...:)

jevica

..."Clinton, Gore and that senile old fool Carter"...I'm dying laughing...I know what you mean...it gets to me too...what could he possibly have to say after the disaster that he presided over...

Sigh...is it hopeless, or will this backfire bigtime??...at least I'm getting some comic relief...

That was funny...thanks for the laugh...

Sandra

It is pathetic..."you can play back one of their comments...and they swear they didn't say it"...
good one...they obviously think everyone in this country is as dumb as their constituents...

Slick Willie...you're right, "they think they're getting back at us"...but he was his own casualty...lier, philanderer, Lincoln bedroom renter, Chinese money taker...don't get me started either...(Zeus was having a fit over Carter)...with me it's El Slicko...

Way to go Sandra...:)

Sheila... forgive me...

...for the misspelling of your name.

I just got home...I'm jet-lagged...it's 11:00 tomorrow morning where I just came from...and I'm so tired I can't sleep...and I'm a little loooopy.

Zeus

Not to worry...sounds like you've been half way accross the world! Welcome back...:)

Right words no matter the reason,

I haven't heard/read Pelosi's remarks and can't comment. However, while I agree with your hunch that it's faux outrage, I don't care as much whether Charlie Rangel really buys-in to what he's saying as much as I care that he says it - in front of the biggest microphone available.

His remarks were the kind that should follow any Chavez-ish railings against any sitting President.

Marcus

True...you would think any American would be outraged, and in this case I can't help be skeptical, due to the endless negative attacks on Bush from the likes of Pelosi and Rangel...I agree that it should have been said, and I'm glad it was said...though I still question the sincerity of the remarks...:) I'm glad to hear someone out there isn't as jaded as I am...:) must mean there's still hope for "reason" on the Left!

Thanks for checking in and commenting!:)

I agree

It's especially hard to believe if you've spent time around liberals. The hard left LOVES Chavez and thinks he's the only one really sticking it to the US. Just watch Democracy Now.

BTW I haven't checked out their coverage of Chavez's remarks....

Mike

Democracy Now...I'll check it out...I'm with you I doubt they would have come out and said a word if they weren't feeling the heat...

Thanks for checking in and commenting!:)

Democracy Now

Just visited their site, and there is an up close and personal interview with the president of Bolivia that's positively gushing:

Bolivian President Evo Morales on Latin America, U.S. Foreign Policy and the Role of the Indigenous People of Bolivia

In a Democracy Now! special, we spend the hour with the president of Bolivia, Evo Morales. This marks one of his only extended televised interviews in the United States since he became Bolivia's first indigenous president.

Highlights from the interview:

* Morales calls for the U.S. to extradite former Bolivian president Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada to face trial for killing over 100 people. " A government that says it fights against terrorism, for human rights, against corruption, it’s not conceivable that this person would still be here [in the United States]," Morales said.

* Morales calls on oil companies to be partners not bosses. "The investor has the right to recuperate their investment and to a reasonable profit," Morales said. "But we can’t allow for the sacking of the country and only the companies benefiting, not the people."

* Morales reveals for the first time how Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva pressured Morales over his plan to nationalize Bolivia's energy resources. "I was attacked. Lula was rough with me," Morales said. [includes rush transcript]

Mike

Wow, sounds like a great spot to get brainwashed... thanks for the info...:)

Sheila!

Whoa, how do you manage to get 25+ comments?! I'm lucky if I get 2 :P

Mike

Well I think once people get to know you they'll check in, so if you check in on other blogs, they'll want to know what you're about, and they'll come to yours!

It's fun to check the postings, as they pop up on the townhall blog page. You can learn about people by reading their Bio's, and make comments on their blogs. That way you learn about them and they learn about you!

It took me a while to get acquainted, but once you get to know townhall folks, it's an ongoing conversation!

Click onto some of the names that have commented here, and it will take you to some great blogs! That way you can get acquainted!

Good luck!:)

A couple of points about this

Bear with me, these comments are long. (I am just catching up to things, as my internet access was spotty over the weekend.)

1. Baseball analogy: In a general sense it is good to hear elected officials be on the same page when it comes to certain comments made by someone deserving of scorn like Chavez. There was a point made on the Michael Graham radio show here (WRKO in Boston) that may summarize the general reaction to the comments. One caller provided this analogy: die hard Red Sox fans will scream for the the head of the general manager and others in the organization for every bad personnel decision, underperformance by players, failures to make the post-season, and simply failing to win the Series every year. With these execises in self-misery, the Sox fans will demand new blood and bemoan every decision being made by the target of their scorn (the ownership group, the general manager, etc.), but they will never throw their hands up and say, "OK, you guys are so screwed up, now I'm rooting for the Yankees." So, in a general sense, it is good to hear comments that we do agree with coming from people we usually don't agree with. However, by looking a little more closely, there are a couple of subtle points worth making.

2. Timing is mildly suspect: It did take Pelosi and Rangal more than 24 hours to come out. Given the fact that they are part of a party that has mastered the art of having a counter-argument to the administration within 90 seconds following the completion of any speech that President Bush makes, the fact that it took more than a day to put together two or three sentences certainly lends credit to the suggestion that they measured the political winds (gauging quite accurately that they would receive credit for speaking out) before deciding to say anything.

[On the evening of Chavez's comments, I posted a point that it was curious that we hadn't heard anything from a Democrat about the speech, with the point being that such (up to that point) silence indicated their tacit approval of what was said. Obviously other people were thinking the same thing, and viola, about 18 hours later that we started seeing Pelosi and Rangal's response.]

3. Where are the rest of the Democrats? There have been two representatives who comdemned the statement - one in a leadership position, and one whose district actually hosted that bizarre event with Chavez and Danny Glover in Harlem. OK, so, no one else took offense by the comments? When you only have two Democrats making statements (that took more than 24 hours to come out), and silence by the rest, you can't help but wonder if this was a token gesture made by the bare minimum number of representatives necessary, or if it was the spontaneous reaction by two House veterans. If it was a token gesture, it has no value. If it was spontaneous beliefs and personally held opinions, then, once again, the silence from the rest of the people in Washington speaks volumes. I wonder what the left-wing blogs are saying about Chavez????

4. How it may backfire: Politically, Rangal knew enough to limit his comments to, "Don't come into my country and start criticizing my President" or words to that effect. He can say that and never have those words come back to haunt him. Pelosi's comments were distinctly different (and, frankly, substantively better). She correctly pointed out that Chavez favors himself as a modern day Simon Bilovar socialist, but that he is actually nothing but a thug. She's exactly right on both. Of course, time will tell whether, politically, she regrets that point. There may come a time where the US will have to actually interact, either politically, diplomatically, or otherwise, with Venezuela. If it is President Bush who has to do it, we know that regardless of what he tries, he will be condemned by the Demcrats. If Nancy Pelosi herself has recognized that Chavez is a socialist, that will curtail her ability in the future to obstruct any action by President Bush by saying, "we should work with Chavez" or words to that effect. She has violated the cardinal rule of the Democratic Party tactic of opposing any and all things Bush, that is that she has actually identified a person as being "bad". After all, only simpletons in red states think in such stark terms, and calling a Socialist wannabe (who actively courts alliances with declared enemies of the US) nothing but a "thug" seems short-sightedly judgmental.

Christian D. Bareford

"Timing"... yup, I'm with you, a little suspect..."where are the rest of the democrats"?Hmmm, it does look a tad suspect...

"How it may backfire"...ha! That was good...Pelosi actually "identified a person as being BAD"!..."Only simpletons in red states think in such stark terms"...I think you've got a great point. She "violated the Democrat's cardinal rule"...I agree, it's going to come back to bite her, and the dems...

Very perceptive...I think you're onto something...:) Thanks for that!:)

An interesting thing happened

on the way to the elections...did you notice how long the "outrage" about Chavez' comments lasted? Just long enough for the dems to take a breath, and jump back on the anti-Bush, anti-war band wagon, with their MSM buddies leaking a line out of a classified report...not surprising.