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Comment on: Pesky Truth

Obama, ACORN, and the Cloward-Piven Strategy

54 Comments
Saturday, June, 06, 2009 1:26 PM Bobbie writes:

"Strategy" is absolutely

correct. Obama's strategy, IMHO, has always been to destroy capitolism, squash individual success, weaken our defenses, divide, conquer and control with an iron fist. This article backs up that opinion and if we had any kind of real "news" organizations in our country, this post would be on front pages from coast to coast.

Our far left radical Criminal in Chief is getting by with his fast track to ruination of our country, largely because we have such an uninformed apathetic public. The MSM does their very best to keep them that way, assisted by Pelosi, Reid and their ilk in DC.

Obama and his radical Socialist, Communist, Stalinist friends and staff won't hesitate to exercise Hitler policies if We the People don't get a grip on this ugly situation and do something about it. I realize there is tremendous unrest and conservative alertness and discussion.......but is this ever going to be enough to take our country back from Obama/Acorn/Ayers/Alinsky/Cloward-Piven group of Satan's pawns? I worry every day that we are going to wait too long; wait till the point of no return is behind us. God forbid.
Excellent post, G92.
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Saturday, June, 06, 2009 7:09 PM Patrick Bohan writes:

Wow!

Very insigtful look at the link between Obama and ACORN. Hopefully, this ACORN business will be revealed before the 2010 elections. I know Fox is trying to expose them as the fraud they are.
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Saturday, June, 06, 2009 7:49 PM Eric writes:

Garnet

We should pass out fliers of this connection and see the liberal outcry. I know I'd sit back and laugh as they would try to hide each flier.

btw, great post. A nice in-depth look at one corrupt organization with a president who could have married them.
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Saturday, June, 06, 2009 11:25 PM Gunny "knuckles" G© writes:

WHAT A NEST

of fetid corruption. Libs really are scum.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 12:04 AM Garnet92 writes:

You are absolutely right, Bobbie

This could not be happening if not for the "state-owned" media. The uninformed public isn't going to actively look for themselves, they're depending on the media to force-feed it to them - and when the media doesn't - they remain mired in ignorance.

I really blame the media even more than the "inert" (you know that's one of my favorite descriptions of the sleeping public). There really ought to be some recourse that the public could have to address the Obama slant on all news (besides turning off the channel or stop buying the magazine or newspaper. The inert people just won't take action unless forced to.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 12:14 AM Garnet92 writes:

Patrick, there is enough material on

ACORN to keep all of TH busy for days. ACORN and its sister companies are designed to cloud the relationships between them and they are said to launder funds by passing between ACORN subsidiaries - in to entity A, paid to entity B for some "service," maybe then to entity C. By that time entity C doesn't know or care where the money initially came from. And because the entities are privately-held, they don't have to allow access to anyone short of legal actions.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 12:18 AM Garnet92 writes:

Thanks Eric - I really didn't know beans

about Cloward-Piven until two days ago, and I daresay that most of the public doesn't know beans about the strategy even now. The major media OUGHT to be covering this kind of planning by the dems and Obama but they are totally in the tank for the left. ACORN and its sister entities are as evil as the mob ever was - they're just more secretive about their plans.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 12:22 AM Garnet92 writes:

They are that Gunny

I think that I have more "respect" for the mob families than I do for most of the democrats and I'd trust my family to the Gambinos or the Genovese families before I'd trust them to Obama, Pelosi, etc.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 1:05 AM glnflwrs writes:

Garnet92

You beat me to it. I was contemplating this very subject and how to tie the web together. You have proven to be an excellent web un-spinner.

Great work, sir. Great work.

Glenn
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 1:51 AM INTHENOW writes:

All the Pieces Fit


Very educational and informative post. Thanks Glenn!
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 1:56 AM INTHENOW writes:

Apologies!


Sorry about name buffoonery in my previous post Garnet.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 9:35 AM clyde writes:

Garnet

GREAT piece. Got to agree with GunnyG,what a nest of roaches.Ain't enough Raid in the world to rid ourselves of all of 'em.Keep shining the light on them,and watch them scatter.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 11:53 AM glnflwrs writes:

Garnet92

Hope you don't mind, but I sent your post to Glenn Beck. He is doing an investigation of ACORN and seemed to be a bit confused (acting I think) about ACORN's true purpose.

I left it exactly as is, including the chart.

Glenn
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 12:42 PM Garnet92 writes:

Sorry 'bout that, Glenn

But don't let that stop you - we need to expose this crap to the light of day as much as possible. Another take on CP strategy, etc. would be welcome.

But thanks for the compliment anyway.

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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 12:47 PM Garnet92 writes:

INTHENOW, what a GREAT word -

buffoonery! That's probably one that could get on Bill O'Reilly's show! Although it better describes Joe Biden tnan any other word I can think of.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 12:51 PM Garnet92 writes:

Right clyde - problem is, that's what

the media should be doing - and no light is forthcoming. Thus, without exposure, the roaches just congregate, fornicate, and multiply.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 12:54 PM Garnet92 writes:

No problem Glenn

Although I can't imagine that he is not aware of all of ACORN's shenanigans. He must've been acting.

ACORN is really worth a lot of additional exposure - we've barely scratched the surface.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 1:34 PM Saltwater writes:

Unraveling the Gordian Knot

The named culprits have gone to great lengths to obscure associations - tucking in the ends so to speak. As long as the interaction remains untraceable through layers of front organizations, they are confident in their claim to the throne upon which they ensconced Obama.

Trying to find a single end from which to start the unknotting has proven nearly impossible. It was time for an Alexandrian solution. This essay has cleaved that puzzle, exposing many of the threads for others to use in unbinding that knot holding Obama's ox-cart to the pole of power.

Excellent work, "Garnet the Great".
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 2:10 PM Garnet92 writes:

That's over the top Saltwater

(I'm beginning to feel "Obamaian"). Seriously, you have described the tangled web that ACORN has weaved. Depending on whose numbers you believe, ACORN has some 60-120 sister companies that maintain some relationships between one another. Operated out of the New Orleans address, they lease each other's manpower and launder money back and forth. It seems that (so far) no one has been able to link them all together - except for a common "home." Even following the money is difficult. There really does need to be a thorough investigation of that operation. But who will do it? The MSM won't.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 3:23 PM Saltwater writes:

Too much?

Well, maybe I did take advantage of prosaic license.

How a person without demonstrated executive qualifications achieved the seat of power was unfathomable until I recalled the legend.

Looking at the chart showing the intricate interlacing of resources and manpower protecting Obama's position brought the image to mind.

Gordias rode his ox-cart up to the temple in Telmissus and was proclaimed king for no other reason than he showed up at the right place, at the right time, with proper mode of transportation - as the oracle prophesied.

So it was for Obama. His rise to power has often been attributed to his good timing and the correct message about hope and change. The temple priests (Soros et al) who proclaimed him as leader will weave any web of deceit necessary to ensure his rule.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 3:40 PM dawndawn writes:

ACORNs Lies and Frauds

Great research and an excellent essay, Garnet. ACORN is the ultimate Community Organization. I have no doubt they are very busy registering dead people, felons and babies for 2010 and 2012.

Early voting should not be permitted and absentee ballots restricted. Yeah, they are convenient but it opens the door for massive voter fraud. The votes of our military often have not been counted! Who can we trust and how do we smash ACORN once and for all?
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 3:47 PM clyde writes:

Garnet

Can't expect the state-run media to do anything on that regard,too far in the tank for him.Bloggers such as yourself,and a few journalists in the TRUE sense of the word will be the ones doing the heavy lifting.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 6:27 PM Garnet92 writes:

Saltwater, as complex as the chart

appears, there is one glaring omission - one very important facilitator is not shown - the media.

Were it not for the complicity of the networks, NYT, WaPo, etc., there would have been probes into the actions of the co-conspirators and D'ohbama would still be a U.S. Senator. Agreed, Mr. Soros is pulling the strings via his LARGE "donations." I suspect that HE is the real kingmaker behind the scenes.

Might be interesting to see how much information can be had on Mr. Soros?
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 6:39 PM Garnet92 writes:

Right Dawn

I just saw a Glenn Beck show where he had two of the board members from DC and THEY'RE bitchin' because even THEY can't even see the books at ACORN?

The entire Dallas Cowboys football team was signed up before the 2008 election, I guess that was a "test run" and we should see the entire rosters of the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHA teams up to vote for the dems in the mid-terms.

We really do need voter ID laws (like the one like D'ohbama's DOJ refused in Georgia). Of course, that would be AGAINST Cloward-Piven and therefore, D'ohbama couldn't allow it to stand.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 6:47 PM Garnet92 writes:

Amen, clyde - it's like they're

attached at the groin. What ought to be doing the heavy lifting is a "pool investigation" funded by Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, et al. where they would cooperate.

I know I'd contribute if I knew that someone would lead an honest no-holds-barred expose into the Soros/ACORN/Cloward-Piven unholy alliance.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 7:47 PM rackoons writes:

Great stats that the Pubs should use but

Great stats but the Pubs will not use them in their ads. I am sure you have noted that Glenn Beck and B.O'Reilly have been investigating ACORN for weeks now. Still, when asked, Barney Frank said, well Bush gave them $12 million. End of story for the Dems.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 8:30 PM MD/MG writes:

If you want a whole

new set of conundrums, google Rathke associations with Tides Foundation.

Whole new set of problems jump out at you. Tides Foundation is on of the libs' pet project along with a big influx of money from obama's puppet master, Soros.
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Sunday, June, 07, 2009 11:34 PM bob's my uncle writes:

Garnet, This is the scariest thing I've

Seen when it comes to the mell of a hess that our country has slid into. As Limbaugh has said, "If Al-Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they better hurry because Obama is beating them to it."
I saw something about Cloward-Piven posted by one of my Twitter contacts. Sometimes you just can't get your mind around how evil, evil really is.
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Monday, June, 08, 2009 12:42 AM Garnet92 writes:

Yeah, Beck and O'Reilly are

"investigating." Beck might have some words on it but I've lost a lot of faith in Bill O. he is very reluctant to critize anything about Obama, I'm sensing maybe a little tingle in his leg? I hope either/both of them find things that can be exposed about ACORN. This is, as they say, where we see who has the cajones.
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Monday, June, 08, 2009 12:45 AM Garnet92 writes:

MD/MG, I know that they're another

linked group but I haven't done any in-depth research on them. I know it's Soros-funded. I'm thinking that I may write something on Soros (after doing a lot of study).
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Monday, June, 08, 2009 12:50 AM Garnet92 writes:

How've you been, BMU?

You know, the unfortunate thing about this blogging is that you get totally engrossed in the worst stinkin' crap that's going on in the country. But, I guess somebody's got to do it.

Haven't seen hide nor hair for a while. You up for a beer?

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Monday, June, 08, 2009 9:37 AM Georgetwin writes:

Garnet

The veil IS dropping and the true nature of BHO IS being revealed.
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Monday, June, 08, 2009 12:18 PM Garnet92 writes:

So be it, Georgetwin

I noticed that the latest Rasmussen poll now shows that Barry's DISAPPROVAL numbers are EQUAL to his approval votes.

We should all take heart, it appears that the fog is beginning to lift and citizens are beginning to see him for what he really is.
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Monday, June, 08, 2009 2:13 PM bob's my uncle writes:

Garnet, as always

I am up for a beer. Just needed a little downtime. My recent blogs have been 140 characters or less, but I've got a new one on the Grill. I'll email you about a meetup.
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Monday, June, 08, 2009 3:45 PM Garnet92 writes:

Ho-kay BMU

I'll check in on the Grill later today.
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Wednesday, June, 10, 2009 9:57 AM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Garnet

What an outstanding post. The chart showing the connections is superb, and thanx for including it.

What we need now is a strategy (or tactics?) to unravel this thing? Any ideas?
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Wednesday, June, 10, 2009 11:07 AM Garnet92 writes:

Thanx Mrs. AL

And the chart doesn't even show all of the associations with MANY other entities that have financial relationships. I'm looking at George Soros and the Tides groups now and it is MIND-BOGGLING how many entities pass money back and forth - all with the intent of laundering the funds and keeping the donors secret.
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Wednesday, June, 10, 2009 3:03 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

Garnet

So does that mean they can be gotten via “laundering money laws” (tic)? Or do such trite things not apply to those with these types of associations?
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Wednesday, June, 10, 2009 4:42 PM Garnet92 writes:

Mrs. AL - they get away with it legally

For example, the Tides Foundation is a 501(c)(3) "charitable" organization. Donors can donate to them and instruct that the funds be used for some general purpose (like gun control). The Tides Foundation then sends the money along to another entity (thereby insulating the donor from the entity receiving the funds - i.e., the separation results in insulation from any visible linkage between the donor and the recipient. Tides can even send the funds to a taxable for-profit entity or will even CREATE a new entity to receive the funds if one doesn't already exist. It is no wonder that following the money is almost impossible because of the techniques being used by these groups.
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Wednesday, June, 10, 2009 7:50 PM MD/MG writes:

Mrs.AL and Garnet

No one will go after these thieves due to the fact that the community organizer in chief is wrapped up in the middle of everything. I'm sure there's enough there to convict in a court of law, however, lady justice has been blindfolded, bound, and gagged.
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Wednesday, June, 10, 2009 8:52 PM Garnet92 writes:

MD/MG I've been looking into the Tides

entities (as you suggested) and Rathke is indeed a bad guy - anyone involved in top management of Tides Foundation, Tides Center, ACORN, and the SEIU simply cannot be honest. The really bad part is that, as I said to Mrs. AL, the money is flowing from fund to entity using legal methods. They are doing illegal things throughout their relationships, but it will take a "War on Funding" to track down the illegalities and get evidence to convict - and that's unlikely to happen with D'ohbama directing Holder to do his bidding.
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Wednesday, June, 10, 2009 9:36 PM MD/MG writes:

Thanks for following up

There are so many things I would love to look into, however, my time is not strictly my own.

I treasure these blogs where people like you, GunnyG, BrianR, and a raft of others research and set out the info so eloquently. I'm hoping and working so that we can leave a country similar to that in which I/we grew up.

Good luck. I'll be anxious to see what falls out.
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Wednesday, June, 10, 2009 9:54 PM Garnet92 writes:

MD/MG - I actually started looking into

George Soros and the Tides Foundation happened to dribble out as one of the recipients of his millions. So, that coupled with your suggestion set me off in that direction. From what I've seen so far, a person could make a career out of investigating all of the incestuous relations between literally hundreds of organizations. So, I think that I'll concentrate on one (Tides) first and gradually move through the list. Since I'm retired, I do have more time available than you working stiffs!
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Thursday, June, 11, 2009 10:23 AM MD/MG writes:

I'm technically

not a working stiff. Right now most of my 'free time' away from my own business that I operate on weekends is spent caring for my elderly mother who is recuperating from a broken hip. She is becoming delusional, besides. We are trying to get her declared persona nin-com-poopus so we can keep her from endangering herself any more than she has.

Hopefully, I'll get more time in the near future, just not right now.

Good luck.
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Thursday, June, 11, 2009 12:09 PM Garnet92 writes:

MD/MG - you may not be a working stiff

in the classic sense, but taking care of your mom is more important than anything else you can do. My brother has been taking care of our mom for years now (they live 400 mi. from me) and he should be canonized as a saint for doing it. And working your own business ain't easy either - been there, done that. Sounds like you've got a full plate. You'll write when you can.
Regards,
G92
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Thursday, June, 11, 2009 12:25 PM Mrs. AL (Always Learning) writes:

MD/MG --

This is off topic and my apologies to all ... may not be welcome, but I will be in prayer for your Mom, you and, your family as you go through this time. Take care.
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Thursday, June, 11, 2009 1:34 PM MD/MG writes:

Thanks, Garnet92, Mrs.AL

It gets frustrating because there is such a fine line between treating them as adults instead of the children they are acting like. Always appreciate prayers. Mrs. AL, dropped you an e-mail at address you posted.
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Saturday, June, 13, 2009 1:51 PM davecatbone writes:

fantastic job Garnet

Your blog has surpassed many of the "main page" bloggers in quality. Excellent and well done, and thanks for the enlightening info, okay, now I'm really afraid....
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Saturday, June, 13, 2009 2:51 PM Garnet92 writes:

You are too kind, Dave

I do appreciate the comment though. If you're afraid now, wait'll you see the stuff I'm working on about all of the liberal groups and their incestuous relationships and funding. It is pure evil.
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Monday, June, 15, 2009 1:13 AM sgt.stryker writes:

Garnet

Thanks for taking on the mammoth task of untangling this mess. I saw mention of Cloward-Piven in a comment over at Hot Air, and did a little research thursday night/fri am, and I was really stuck debating whether or not I had the chops to give it the "treatment". Your piece fits the bill. Great job, buddy.
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Monday, June, 15, 2009 2:14 PM Garnet92 writes:

Thanks Sarge

Isn't it amazing how when we start investigating some of the antics of the left, they're all sort of tied together with other anti-American groups. I'm working on some George Soros-funded groups right now and it blows my mind at the quantity of "anti-" groups there are - and they're all joined at the hip. The difference between them is that they specialize on parts of destroying America. But, taken as a whole, they have people and funding in place to attack each of our country's finest attributes.
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Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 7:20 PM C writes:

Obama, ACORN , Cloward-Piven Strategy

I am curious if so-called "Liberation Theology" has any link with Cloward-Piven. My recollection is that Liberation Theology originated in Latin America, then was modified or evolved here in North America as "Black Liberation Theology." I assume B.L.T. is the version that has been promulgated by "Reverend" Wright and Father Pflager (the latter seems to have been reeled in for now by the R.C. church, since I also recall Pope John Paul--no fan of unbridled capitalism-- condemning this theology for its Marxist roots and philosophies).
Exactly how widespread is this "theology" in the black and/or leftist communities? And is there any link with Cloward-Piven? Thanks.
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Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 11:42 PM Garnet92 writes:

C, plan and simple, I don't know

My honest answer to the crux of your question is “I don’t know.” I have researched both BLT and Cloward-Piven Strategies and while I wasn’t looking for a link – I don’t recall that one was evident. I do believe that I would have noticed. James Cone was an advocate of BLT and through his writings, influenced Rev. Wright and Fr. Pfleger.

Cloward and Piven first proposed their strategy in 1966, which was a similar timeframe during which Cone was writing about BLT. I just did a quick look back to refresh my memory and see no apparent linkage between the two – except for the obvious appeal to blacks of the BLT and the beneficiary of C-P would be mostly poor blacks. Otherwise, a linkage wouldn’t surprise me, but I don’t know of one.

Thanks for an intelligent question!
G92
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Thursday, November, 05, 2009 6:53 PM C writes:

BLT

Thanks Garnett for your response re BLT and Cloward-Piven. I should point out that while doing further research, I came across a site that provided the name of the individual who "inspired" Saul Alinsky. Not difficult to find, since Alinsky allegedly dedicated his book (the first edition, anyway)"Rules for Radicals" to this individual. The dedication states: "Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom--Lucifer."
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