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Sarge

Excellent idea trading illegals back like soda bottles. When can we start that, tomorrow?

Great post sir.
Glenn Flowers

Fine!


They want to be a bunch of pricks, I say we put a HEAVY tax on the money the illegals send back to Mexico. NO MORE DAMN FREEBIES! They are an ungrateful bunch of brats!!!

As usual, the hypocrisy


of the Mexican government knows no bounds.

They have Draconian laws against illegal migration into their own country, yet criticize us for any effort to address the problem of their citizens violating OUR laws.

Hey! Maybe someone caught violating this law could use the excuse that they're simply bringing the extra fuel across the border to make sure that illegal alien Mexicans in the US still have access to cheaper Mexican gas!

People for Oil

This is a fantastic idea. I am all for it. When does it start?

As for the fines, what a bunch of nut heads. By the way as they were being fined, 350 went over the fence, no fine was given.

You know, I think we should also have a fuel for dough program too. Lets send all of the gas bills from the border patrol to Mexico in exchange for money. The border patrol would not really be down there if Mexico obeyed the laws.

I'm waiting for someone

to ask John McCain this very question. Then we'll see where he really stands on this issue of Mexico.

OH................................

good God, but that's good!

look, can we bend the rules, keep a few of the illegals and return nancy pelosi instead??

(a nation of whiners)

c'mon, pleeeeeeeezzzzze?

Glenn

You have found the flaw in my plan. Nothing it seems, according to the left, can happen in less than ten years.

masch

Business wants cheap labor more than American sovereignty. I say abolish the 13th amendment. If we're going to have slavery lets make it official and then we'll see how fast illegals try to get back home.

Brian

A master stroke of diplomacy. Just like those poor folks at Gitmo who weren't trying to kill Americans merely part of "humanitarian" effort. I love it! HaHaHa!

Sue

It makes wonder why politicians can't come up with these kinds of plans. They certainly make more sense than regulating light bulbs!

I'd send the Border Patrol to gas up in Mexico myself.

DCat

I hope your not holding your breath. We'd miss you! LOL!

BG

An excellent suggestion but you KNOW they're gonna' notice that switch. I don't think the Mexicans are dumb enough for a "Harridans for Oil" program.

"Whiners"?
The country is overrun by illegals.

They are importing labor in a down job market.

Gas is $4.

Houses are losing their value.

The dollar is shaky.

Social Security isn't secure.

Electric and NatGas is through the roof.

Politicians won't stop fixing things.

Stop me before I WHINE!!!

Sgt Relic

Well, actually we can continue the people for oil program. We can load up the border patrol vehicles with illegals, cross the border exchange them for the gas and then go back home.

I see this as a win-win situation. Good plan.

Politicians are having a hard time of finding their own bootie, let alone come up with a plan.

Sue

Sounds like a winner to me. I am afraid that politicians HAVE a plan and it's been in place for 20 years. That's right. The plan is to do nothing!

(laughing hysterically)

my God, you're right, they won't take her.

i'd say throw in some scotch and a nice football. but they'd probably demand troy aikman's superbowl ring and front-row superbowl tickets. and a rolex.

a lake of oil wouldn't convince them to make such a deal...

curses!!

Sarge

Excellent idea trading illegals like soada bottles as for me tho I wil take the nickel a bottle

BG

I think we can work that deal. Teddy the Swimmer Boy sings in Spanish, has huge quantities of Scotch and probably a football or two leftover from the family touch football games that were so popular at Hyannis Port.

Since I am a Washington fan giving up Aikman's ring, tickets and the insufferable Jerry Jones' rolex is fine with me.

We could give them California, since they want it anyway, and Pelosi comes with the package since she reps SF.

oh, God, you are...

just... really amusing today! i agree. if it takes california, you know, buh-bye...

El Presidente Pelosi!

Kev

Sorry, illegals are non-refundable in the U.S.

BG

El Presidente! LOL! Nanny would probably be running Mexico after a few years. With her policies Mexico could be the first "fourth world" economy.

Kofi? Says Sarge

Yes. Mr. UN Kickback is a good match for Mexico. What's Bantu for 'mordida'? The Mexicans just think of new ways to chisel touristas. Customs violations occur when you enter a country, not when you leave.
The government down there is a joke. The North is a crazy-quilt of fiefs run by the local bandit-chiefs. There was a war going on in TJ between the Federales and the Army over who was calling the shots. As far as taxing the money those poor people make, that's mean. They get ripped off badly enough by everyone else, lets not join in. We've got to come up with some kind of system of temporary work permits that will regularize some of these workers. As far as Mexico ever having an honest government, don't hold your breath.

PAY - LO - SI

She'd have to change her name, when you sound it out in Spanish, she would never go for the idea of the Low Pay, yes, at least not for herself! Italian to Mexican interesting idea, put HER in a train car across the border!

You know why Pelosi called recess? She made a promise she couldn't keep! She said back in Jan of 07 that congress would put into place programs during the "first hundred hours!" This means 'working hours' or in FDR's terms working 'days.'

She had to run away, because Georgie wouldn't come out and play.

fourth world economy

okay, you are GASPINGLY funny today. even my mother is amused.

look, you're absolutely right. after a few years of El Presidente Pelosi, they'll give us every oil well in the country just to take her back!

never mind the drilling! oil independence, here we come!!

wow, we just solved the energy crisis!

and it's pelosi's fault in this scenario, too!

Sgt Relic

They should get some awards. One for the lowest approval ratings ever and one for working almost two years and getting a salary for doing nothing

You know when I grew up I wanted to be a failed CEO. I wanted to drag a company into the ground and then walk away with millions. But, being a member of Congress has some perks. I hardly ever have to work and I get paid to do NOTHING!

Skep

I'd settle for a system that allows us to control our border and determine who comes into the country. Some countries I've visited check you going out. Brazil checked for pre-Columbian artifacts, Canada used to make me show them what fish I had caught (something concerning size, I forget exactly but you had to leave the heads on).

Apparently we can add installing fiber optic cable to the list of "jobs Americans won't do" since Verizon has a crew installing it in my neighborhood right now. The only answer I can get concerning how bad they're going to mess up my yard is No Hablo Englais.

Hey Str8 talk!

I've missed you around here. Have you managed to recover from your vacation? Normally I'm very happy when congress does nothing. This is not one of those times.

Apparently she has told democrats to save themselves on the drilling issue but I don't think the republicans can get her back to DC before September.

BG

I fear we are stuck with Red Nanny at least until San Francisco decides to secede. That might not be as long as we might think.

Sue

I love the award idea! What would you call an award like that? A "Paris"? That's the first name that came to my mind when thinking of somebody famous for doing nothing.

Personally, I'd stick with failed CEO gig. Very lucrative!

Sgt Relic

I think the "Paris" would be good. We could have the "DoNo" (for do nothing), the "Worthless" and of course don't forget the "Boobie Prize." There would be so many winners, the show would run for months on that one.

We would have the new PefO - People For Oil. Maybe it can become part of the UN.

I think the CEO gig is the best way to go. I am just looking for that company.

I for one would love to see SFran go its own way. What a happy day that would be. And not only take Pelosi, take Newsome with them. That city should not receive a dime from the Federal Government.

Sue

Let's face it. None of these solutions(?) is likely to ever come to pass. But you have to admit, it's fun daydream and ignore for a few moments just how far down that socialist road we have wandered.

I have a theory that it is our sense of humor that separates us from the politicians and liberals of the world.

Sgt Relic

The good old sense of humor. Glad we have that. Otherwise, it could be really ugly.

Of course nothing will get done. Are we shocked, not really. The one thing that has always bothered me about the entire immigration issue is the fact that no one wants to do anything really. Is everyone afraid that they are going to offend or hurt their feelings? Aren't they breaking the law?

In CA this is a big problem. We are so in the hole in this state.

Overall, I am just a daydream believer...

Sue

Every time we get an election this issue sinks in the minds of voters as politicians and the media divert the voters attention to other issues.

Not to say that the war, energy, taxes, and all of the other big issues aren't important but the fact is that until voters start to throw pols out of office with the clear message that this practice is unacceptable, we will not see it resolved.

This time around both candidates for president are pro-illegal. A democrat controlled congress is going to pass amnesty or worse after January and whoever is president is going to sign it. I fear the voters may have missed their opportunity to remain a sovereign nation by failing to reject Amnesty John as the GOP candidate.

You had better start learning to speak Spanish.

Sarge,

I was trying to work a refried beans joke in here somewhere...


Corruption abounds.

Maybe, if we all take...

bean-o; in refererence to SP, they'll all go away. Does that work for illegals? Something MUST be done to get rid of them. When your yard needs fixed guess who they'll send to fix it - "no comprende."

I've recouped from my vacation. Then I was hit by a 220 lb. guy, five times, one very severe and we're in litigation. I have tissue damage to my left arm and you can still make out the bruise from June 30th (6 weeks ago!) I've moved with no fwd & a restraining order. I've unpacked 1/2 my boxes & I still have 90!

Back to the issue at hand, I believe the dumbocrats in this congress are as bad as Carter!

Sgt Relic

Months ago I was reading one of the polls that people had rated the priorities of the candidates, immigration was far down the list.

Of course the war was more toward the top and energy was not that high up, but it has moved up since the price of oil and a gallon of gas has gone through the roof.

I still remember Obama saying that he would support driver's license's for the illegals. That still floors me. Of course Clinton could not make her mind between yes and no.

I guess I will invest in Rosetta Stone for my Spanish speaking needs.

Shocking SP

No refried bean humor at your command? HaHaHa! Corruption abounds, on both sides of the border!

str8

In our area the illegals are concentrated in what is left of the building trades. Roofers, drywall, painting, in other words, the jobs our non-college bound high school graduates used to fill. New grads are having a tough time finding jobs and it is getting worse as the economy slows down.

I'm sorry to hear about your trouble. I hope you get a quick resolution and so your life can return to normal quickly.

Your right about the dems. Obama seems to do a very credible Carter imitation.

Sue

It's all about who sets the debate. The media controls a large part of that process. A recent example would be the lack of coverage of the energy revolt in congress. We get instead John Edward's love child, Paris Hilton, and quicker than you can say "short attention span" the public is focused on these REALLY important issues.

P.T. Barnum was right. There's a sucker born every minute.

If It Weren't For The Fact...

that I love Mexican music (old style) and Mexican food, I would push for a complete boycot of all things Mexican.

However, my "beef" is with the Mexican government not the Mexican people (who are in a "world of hurt").

Ghost

I certainly fault the Mexican government, and other governments, for creating the situation that drives illegals to the U.S.

However, if we don't control the influx of those who decide that it is our problem to fix their misery, we will soon have no better way of life to offer anyone. Compassion has to be regulated by reality.

The reality is that we can't just throw our borders open. Another reality is that Americans are being displaced by illegals and are finding themselves out of work and in misery themselves.

We have seen the results of compassion without reality across the world. As compassionate agencies establish refugee camps in the wake of some upheaval. They gather more people together than can be reasonably served and create a brand new misery. Nobody wins.

It's just my opinion and I realize that reasonable people might disagree with me. At the current rate I don't think it will take long to find out if I right.

Finally

The 2nd half of my vacation on my blog. I know everyone has been waiting with anticipation...LOL!

This is my thought.

DRILL

D.R.I.L.L.

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Good thought SC

I have been reading some of the information on hydrogen vehicles. GM seems to have bet the farm on this technology so I thought I try to learn why. When I think of hydrogen, I get this image in my head and the image says Hindenburg on it. So far it sounds like a gigantic skateboard.

I've been hearing Glenn Beck talk about test driving one and he hasn't trashed it...yet.

When it comes to congress doing something simple like getting out of the way my confidence level is skeptical at best. It's a modified Reaganism: Trust but have a plan B.

The thing is...

That "nobody" (read politicians) here gets it. As with the gas prices, fines, etc...do you think any other nation where innocent civilians died would have waited 18 months to retaliate? OR, if we went into their country illegally that they would not have kicked us out? We are stoopid for allowing the I-2's to stay. They should all be herded out.
As for oil...f-ing drill already!!

People for oil

Sarge, is 4 the most you can fit in that tank? I'll be you could fit more than that, with a little creativity.

Yup, Mexico subsidizes their gas, so they don't want someone who isn't a citizen taking advantage of that, kind of like us and welf----, uh ok, how about health ca--, ok, but surely we wouldn't let non citizens get reduced tuitions for schools, right?

What About Illegals Transporting Illegal

Narcotics, that is.

Nee

I would expect to be expelled from any country I had entered illegally but it appears I am a dinosaur for clinging to the quaint notion that laws are actually important. Commonsense and reason have to rule the day.

Our immigration policy is beginning to look like a "Crazy Cat Lady" plan. You know, the ones who love cats so much that they eventually have 75 or 100 of them living in squalid conditions, until the smell gets go bad the health department becomes involved. Are they compassionate? Certainly. Does everyone benefit? No, they create a bigger problem instead.

As for energy. The government just needs to get out the way and let people who know what they're doing fix the problems.

Redhead

Not at all my crimson topped friend. I have Town Car. The very same car DeNiro famously pitched in "Analyze That" saying "Look at the size of this trunk. You can put three bodies in there." Of course, he was referring to full sized gangsters.

What really frosts me is that all of the freebies you mention have to dispensed in SPANISH! What crock!!

Bear

That I believe I covered them in the broader heading of pharmaceuticals not approved by the FDA. That's governmentese for "blunt" and "blow".

I'm probably being pessimistic....

... but there's probably a better chance that enterprising illegal aliens would try to set up a little operation where they shuttle back and forth to get subsidized fuel to bring back into the US - which they would then sell for a price between the Mexican and US prices.

But the trading in of illegals for cheap gas does have a tremendous amount of appeal.

Ed

Based on observation I'd be inclined to think that there is more money to be made in stuffing a tanker truck with illegals than in filling it, even with cheap fuel, for resale. Dope is lighter, less conspicuous and again more profitable.

How about a compromise "path to citizenship" program? Good only in sanctuary cities.

Sarge

The kicker about the people who believe Gov't can help with the energy crisis is just that. Who is it that develops the new and exciting tech for energy or anything? THe people,not gov't and the capitalist market!! The markets drive what we can do. Yes, gov't, get the hell outta the way...

Nee

Exactly. The "Masters of the Universe" in DC think that they are bigger than market forces.

When Are The Ranchers And Landowners

whose properties front the border going to let Militas hold exercises on their land?

If an armed American citizen observes Foreign persons invading his country, is he not duty bound to defend his borders?

At what point does entering the US illegally stop being an illegal border crossing and become an invasion?

When the foreigners are armed?
Duh.

When the foreigners intend to import illegal substances to debilitagt\te the American population?
Duh.

When the foreigners are entering to steal?
Duh, duh.

Oh, Yeah...

At what point do the American people become so tired of the government not enforcing the law they become the Vigilantes President Bush spoke about so disparigingly?

More proof...

...that we're dealing w/a bunch of absolute ingrates. The world expects the U.S. to do for it, but will they reciprocate? Hell no!
Its time now to get into their back pocket for a change. I have a new post/plan Sergeant that provides a way to do just that. I'd like your opinion/comments if you have time. DD

Buck

I understand that many ranchers along the border are already cooperating with the Minuteman Project to build fencing. As far as armed citizens resisting goes, I would say that the cases of Ramos and Compean call into question whether or not BORDER AGENTS can fire on violent illegals trying to cross the border.

Armed incursions across the border are occurring with some frequency and violence in American cities by illegals is pushing deaths by traffic accident as a prominent statistic.

And yet the federal government, whose actually constitutional duty it is to defend these borders, does nothing.

One can only conclude that the business interests being served by these new slaves are as strong as the green interests that drive the AGW scam and the "no energy" energy plans.

You would think that when something came up that had the benefit of public support, and was actually constitutional, that the feds would be all over it.

DD

I'm always lookin' for a plan. Be over soon.

Sgt Relic - you're probably right...

... about more money being made in filling a truck with illegals, margins being what they are and all in the energy vs. human trafficking markets.

Sgt Relic

I read your article a day or 2 ago; and I have been thinking about it ever since.

Short of the citizens just telling the Feds "to go to h*ll" and shooting all illegals on sight (in other words, armed revolution), I am not sure what can be done.

If enough citizens shot back at Mexican Army and government personnel, we could start a "border" war. But the War for Texas Independence pretty much started the same way.

Ed

It's obvious that you were just thinking like an honest man. HaHaHa!

Ghost

IMO, the mayhem on the border is the direct result of the failure of government to abide by it's constitutional duty to protect the country.

The constitution gives us our rule of law. When the rule of law is circumvented, regardless of the reasons, good or bad, the result is chaos. To me, this is the only REAL impeachable offense committed by the Bush administration.

The congress would like to impeach him but unfortunately they are, for the most part, guilty as well. The whole situation is a fundamental violation of the public trust.

At some point people will probably act and then watch how fast the government moves to prosecute these citizens for their hate crimes.

Every six year old understands inherently the concept of "my room". You would think that the President of the United States of America and the Congress would be at least as bright.

I agree...

sarge,ghost This is one of my main beefs with McCain....WHERE IS THE FENCE???we got mexican bullets coming at us as well as illegals who do not give a d___ about America. When people came over to the US in the 20s-30s they wanted not only a better life...they wanted to be AMERICANS.

crossbow

Don't look for a fence in our future. There never was and never will be any commitment on the part of government to anything more than "talk" about fences and control on the border. That was just "red meat" for the voters in '06.

With McCain and Obama as the candidates there is no longer any reason for a pretense concerning control. I look for the next four years to bring a change to America that will alter the basics of what being an American even means.

We have arrived at a point when a socialist like Nancy Pelosi will actually say out loud that "SHE", all by herself, will not allow a vote in our representative assembly. Even the president only gets a veto, subject to override.

And where is the press? Feeling shivers up their legs.

Where does it end?????

Word is that throu the SPP with mexica and Canada we're actually building a fence - on the southern border of Mexico to keep out those "dangerous" central Americans. Our agents get shot at by Mexican policia and soldiers, US citizens being kidnapped and then brought to Mexico and held for ransom, and more US Border Patrol Agents ending up in prison for actually trying to do their job. This is the result of SPP and "integration with our neighbors. If we don't stop this thing soon we're screwed. By ammo!

mikeconaway.com

Mike Conaway, congressman, is soliciting input for the GOP convention platform. His current topic is illegal immigration. Take a few moments and let him have your thoughts/suggestions.

Val Weiss

Chad

I too had heard reports (not personally verified) that the U.S. was assisting Mexico financially with a southern border fence.

Glenn Beck has dedicated a considerable amount of time to these issues on his radio and TV programs. As far as I can tell, his is just about the only public voice I have heard giving and attention to this subject.

The press is avoiding it since it doesn't help Obama. The major candidates are on the same page on this issue so it is not even a question in the election. Likewise, at least in Virginia, I am not seeing or hearing any discussion about illegals.

Democrats and Republicans alike are hoping that the public is too distracted by gas prices, drilling, trouble in Georgia and the economy to zero in on an issue that will put them at odds with their respective nominees.

The phones need to ring at the congressional switchboard. Questions need to be asked by the public during their campaigns. If they think we've moved on from the issue so will they!

MD/MG

Thanks for the heads up on the platform solicitation. I assume that Conaway is on the platform committee and is not raising this issue on his own. His score card at NumbersUSA.com gives him a lifetime "B" which puts him almost at the bottom of republicans in the house with regard to illegal immigration.

I'll give him my thoughts just the same but it does strike me as strange that a rep who is one of the few republicans in congress who is NOT a member of the immigration reform caucus would be doing this solicitation.