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" In the supposed state of nature, all men are equally bound by the laws o nature , or to speak more properly the laws of the Creator." Samuel Adams

One of the reasons that everything had such a long life span pre-flood was the fact that the firmament(a cryrogenic layer of crystaline Hydrogen, that is H to science minded peeps) surrounded the earth and filtered out ALL the harmful rays that bombard us now. Also, this firmament regenerated the earth's magnetic field to keep it at full strength. All of the lifeforms on the planet require the magnetic field of the earth to regenerate cell structure(this has been proven in experiments in space by scientists)and since that fiels has been decreasing in strength since the flood the degeneration of lifeforms has increased thus causing cancer and many other maladys and sicknesses that the pre-flood lifeforms were imune to. Also, the oxygen(that is O2 to science minded peeps)level and the carbon-dioxide(that is CO2 to science minded peeps)level was higher, and the atmospheric pressure was approximately 14lbs per square inch instead of the approximately 7lbs of today. In those days a person could run all day long without tiring and to kill someone you would have to literally behead them, for what is considered today to be a mortal wound then would just be a scratch. Their intelligence was much higher(the story of Atlantis) and they did not need a ruler to measure distance or telescope to see for long distances. The environment was perfect! The firmament, as mentioned before, filtered out all harmfull rays and allowed plants to become huge by today's standards. These conditions are what enabled the long lifespan of lifeforms in those days. This is also the reason that the dinosaurs flourished then, for there was plenty of plantlife and plenty of air, and plenty of meat for the carnivorus types..Oh, yes, the earth was one continent with one inland sea, and thus there was plenty of room for the beasts. Well, when the waters of the deep broke up, geysers hundreds of miles high destroyed the firmament and the hydrogen was melted and combined with the excess oxygen in the atmosphere to create the flood, and it rained until every surface of the earth was covered. The dinosaurs were killed, all but a few, and all humanity were killed, all but eight, and after the water receeded, the surface of the earth was very different, but still more habitable than today by a longshot. Approximately 200-300 years after the flood, the earth swelled up approximately 10% larger than it was before, thus making the oceans and continents we know today. Then, as time went by the habitat of our little planet gradually decayed and is still decaying and will decay untill the Maker comes back and fixes it on the day He sets His foot on the Mount of Olives at the end of the Tribulation..So, hang in there till then and you just might live to see 1000yrs old. But, if you take Him now, you will get to live forever:-) Your choice:-{)

There is only one little thingy there that oh so many just can not get. And the reason is that our little puny minds just can not comprehend it..
God is God and He exists in a reality totally separate from this one. A reality that is more real than this one. Jesus and the Father are One for the simple reason that the Father is Light, Pure and Holy. Jesus is the embodiment of the Father, so when they saw Jesus, they saw the Father..In all Scripture,as for as I know, Jesus and the Father are synonomus. For example; you are a spirit(which will live forever) you have a soul(which will live forever) and you live in a body(which is only temporal and must be changed to exist forever,as Jesus' body was changed).
Father's ways and thoughts are so far above ours that there is nothing to use for a direct comparison. So, to gain understanding of the Trinity, one must excercise their faith and just accept that this is the way it is. That is why the preaching of Christ crucified is foolishness to anyone that has not first been convicted by the Holy Spirit, for they are seeking natural explanations for something that has no natural or rational explanation. Humans are constantly trying to 'humanize' God and God is not human, He only 'became' a man to break the curse that Adam obtained by sampling the forbidden fruit. This is how I accept the fact that Father, Jesus, and Holy Spirit are One

This is also the reason the Jews did not and many still do not understand that Jesus IS Messiah. The Moslems also believe that Jesus was a 'man', but can not get the relationship between the Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit, for they are stuck on the fact that God is One.
The Father can not visit earth, for if He did it would be disintegrated as is described in Revelations. That is why this heavens and earth will pass away and a new one created, for Father can and will not be in the presence of sin, and sin is totally destroyed in His presence, thereby requiring Jesus to stand to represent Him and us as a mediator so that the judgements may be performed without losing ALL of humanity for if Father opened His Throne at this time, ALL of the things we perceive as 'real' would be destroyed in a flash, similar to the way a hydrogen bomb destroys everything in the immediate vicinity of the blast. Only Father is more power than if all the hydrogen in the universe were to go critical and explode in one instant.

Ezek 14:12 The word of the LORD came again to me, saying:
Ezek 14:13 "Son of man, when a land sins against Me by persistent unfaithfulness, I will stretch out My hand against it; I will cut off its supply of bread, send famine on it, and cut off man and beast from it.
Ezek 14:14 "Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness," says the Lord GOD.
Ezek 14:15 "If I cause wild beasts to pass through the land, and they empty it, and make it so desolate that no man may pass through because of the beasts,
Ezek 14:16 "even though these three men were in it, as I live," says the Lord GOD, "they would deliver neither sons nor daughters; only they would be delivered, and the land would be desolate.
Ezek 14:17 "Or if I bring a sword on that land, and say, 'Sword, go through the land,' and I cut off man and beast from it,
Ezek 14:18 "even though these three men were in it, as I live," says the Lord GOD, "they would deliver neither sons nor daughters, but only they themselves would be delivered.
Ezek 14:19 "Or if I send a pestilence into that land and pour out My fury on it in blood, and cut off from it man and beast,
Ezek 14:20 "even though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live," says the Lord GOD, "they would deliver neither son nor daughter; they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness."

that the layer of crystaline H, was like a canopy that protected the earth from all of the things that you mentioned. The flood that destroyed all creatures on the earth (except Noah, his family and the animals in the Ark) was the collapsing of the canopy. After that, man's lifespan became about 100 years, because the protection was gone.

I was given these verses for the Body of Christ!
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Ezek 14:12 The word of the LORD came again to me, saying:
Ezek 14:13 "Son of man, when a land sins against Me by persistent unfaithfulness, I will stretch out My hand against it; I will cut off its supply of bread, send famine on it, and cut off man and beast from it.
Ezek 14:14 "Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness," says the Lord GOD.
Ezek 14:15 "If I cause wild beasts to pass through the land, and they empty it, and make it so desolate that no man may pass through because of the beasts,
Ezek 14:16 "even though these three men were in it, as I live," says the Lord GOD, "they would deliver neither sons nor daughters; only they would be delivered, and the land would be desolate.
Ezek 14:17 "Or if I bring a sword on that land, and say, 'Sword, go through the land,' and I cut off man and beast from it,
Ezek 14:18 "even though these three men were in it, as I live," says the Lord GOD, "they would deliver neither sons nor daughters, but only they themselves would be delivered.
Ezek 14:19 "Or if I send a pestilence into that land and pour out My fury on it in blood, and cut off from it man and beast,
Ezek 14:20 "even though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live," says the Lord GOD, "they would deliver neither son nor daughter; they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness."
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When you have done all you know to do,Stand!!

Thursday, December, 07, 2006 2:01 AM
Correction and Revision::Atmospheric pressure at sea level today is 14psi, before flood,28psi.

aurorawatcher writes: Thursday, December, 07, 2006 8:42 PM
Clarification needed
ASlayer, I believe that the Bible, particularly Romans, teaches, since the resurrection of Jesus, Jews and Gentiles come to God by the same way -- faith in Jesus Christ. Paul was a good Jew, but he needed Christ to be saved. Ditto the rest of the apostles. Timothy was half-Jewish, and had been taught the Hebrew scriptures, but he also became a Christian in his young adulthood.

So, I'm trying to figure out what you're saying. Again, I'm not a big end-times person. I'm more of a the-journey-is-the-destination Christian. So, you're perhaps trying to feed meat to someone with baby teeth on this subject. However, please explain.

Do the Jews need to accept Christ to be saved or not?
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Yes, the only way to the Father is through the Son. There are Messianic Jews today that have accepted Jesus as the Messiah, but their numbers compared to the Jews that are still looking for the Messiah are fairly small.
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The point that I was making on Valiant's site is that once the Rapture happens, the Body of
Christ(Messiah) will be complete and no more will be added. The persons that come to Jesus during the Tribulation are the ones in Revelations with the palm fronds. That is why it is that we are IN Christ for we are a separate group than those. This is what Jesus is describing in the 'Parable of the Virgins', for once the door is closed only the ones that enter into the Bridal Chamber are the Bride. Scripture plainly states that the Body of Christ is His Bride. If you are not familiar with the Jewish marriage custom, it goes like this::
The father of the groom sends his proxy to the parents of the girl that he has chosen to be his son's bride. There are wineglasses placed on the table along with a bottle of wine. When she is asked to be the bride of the groom, she either pours a glass of wine and drinks(this is acceptance) or she turns the glass upside down on the table(signifying refusal:the bride always has the choice, this is where we get the custom of the man asking the woman to marry him). If she drinks, the proxy returns to the groom's father and informs him of her decision to accept the proposal. At this time the father tells the son to prepare a place for her in his house, so the groom begins to prepare a place for her in his father's house(or attached to the side of his father's house). So, the groom begins work on his new bridal chamber and the groom continues to prepare(usually for about a year)his bridal chamber until the father of the groom approves the chamber. Then the father tells the groom to go get his bride. The whole time that the bride has been waiting, every night she burns a lamp in the window to let the groom know that she is ready, so, during the night the groom and his entourage go to the bride's home and the groom calls to her,'Come out.' and she comes out(if the lamp is not burning in the window, the groom returns home assuming that for some reason or other she has changed her mind).
The groom then takes her to his bridal chamber and the couple stays locked up in the bridal chamber for seven days and then they come out and the groom presents his new bride to the world.
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Now, compare this to the things which Jesus says to us in the Word, and you see that they are identical.
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John 14:1 "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.
John 14:2 "In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
John 14:3 "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
John 14:4 "And where I go you know, and the way you know."
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John 3:28 "You yourselves bear me witness, that I said, 'I am not the Christ,' but, 'I have been sent before Him.'
John 3:29 "He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom's voice. Therefore this joy of mine is fulfilled.
John 3:30 "He must increase, but I must decrease.
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Mat 22:2 "The kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who arranged a marriage for his son,
Mat 22:3 "and sent out his servants to call those who were invited to the wedding; and they were not willing to come.
Mat 22:4 "Again, he sent out other servants, saying, 'Tell those who are invited, "See, I have prepared my dinner; my oxen and fatted cattle are killed, and all things are ready. Come to the wedding."'
Mat 22:5 "But they made light of it and went their ways, one to his own farm, another to his business.
Mat 22:6 "And the rest seized his servants, treated them spitefully, and killed them.
Mat 22:7 "But when the king heard about it, he was furious. And he sent out his armies, destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
Mat 22:8 "Then he said to his servants, 'The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy.
Mat 22:9 'Therefore go into the highways, and as many as you find, invite to the wedding.'
Mat 22:10 "So those servants went out into the highways and gathered together all whom they found, both bad and good. And the wedding hall was filled with guests.
Mat 22:11 "But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment.
Mat 22:12 "So he said to him, 'Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?' And he was speechless.
Mat 22:13 "Then the king said to the servants, 'Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
Mat 22:14 "For many are called, but few are chosen."
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These verses Mat.22:2-22:14 describe Israel and the Body of Christ, for the Body is made up of Jews and Gentiles alike. Israel did not receive her Messiah when He came the first time, and will not recognise Him until AFTER accepting the Anti-Christ as Messiah, discovering that he is not the Messiah but an imposter, and having to suffer under his hand for 1260 days. Then when Jesus and His Body return, they(the Jews)will look upon Him who they pierced and weep, and realise the mistake they have made and receive Him as Savior; but they will not be able to become part of the Body for the Body is complete at that time.
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Rev 19:7 "Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready."
Rev 19:8 And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.
Rev 19:9 Then he said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!' " And he said to me, "These are the true sayings of God."

I posted this in one of Hugh Hewitt's article blogs;Catnips and Term Limits. I thought I would post it here also.:-)
God bless!
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What the United States need to realise is just one itty bitty thing:::
Israel WILL NOT be destroyed by Ahmadinejad or any other lunatic!!God promised them a nation FOREVER, and in case ones out there don't understand what FOREVER means, well, it means for·ev·er /- [fawr-ev-er, fer-]
–adverb 1. without ever ending; eternally: to last forever.
2. continually; incessantly; always: He's forever complaining.
–noun 3. an endless or seemingly endless period of time: It took them forever to make up their minds.
—Idiom4. forever and a day, eternally; always: They pledged to love each other forever and a day.
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The bad thing for the US is::
God DID NOT promise that the US would be a nation FOREVER!!
The nation of Israel will be here when all the rest are gone. The US is mentioned NOWHERE in prophecy specificly by name, when other nations are. This, in itself should cause EVERYONE in this nation to take heed to what is happening concerning Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and more importantly Israel!
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The citizenship of the US keep their gullible noses ramed up the arse of the MSM, believing every thing they say or write and refuse to seek out good knowledge or wisdom; and this will be the downfall of this nation. All that is required for evil to succeed it for good people to do nothing, and the citizenship of the US is excelling at doing nothing!

John the Baptist should have been High Priest at the time of Jesus ministry, and this is why John baptized Jesus in the Jordan, to ordain Him as a priest. Cool, Huh?
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Mat 3:13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him.
Mat 3:14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, "I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?"
Mat 3:15 But Jesus answered and said to him, "Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he allowed Him.
Mat 3:16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.
Mat 3:17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
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Luke 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abijah. His wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.
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Luke 1:13 But the angel said to him, "Do not be afraid, Zacharias, for your prayer is heard; and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you shall call his name John.
Luke 1:14 "And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth.
Luke 1:15 "For he will be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink. He will also be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb.
Luke 1:16 "And he will turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God.
Luke 1:17 "He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, 'to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,' and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."
Luke 1:18 And Zacharias said to the angel, "How shall I know this? For I am an old man, and my wife is well advanced in years."
Luke 1:19 And the angel answered and said to him, "I am Gabriel, who stands in the presence of God, and was sent to speak to you and bring you these glad tidings.
Luke 1:20 "But behold, you will be mute and not able to speak until the day these things take place, because you did not believe my words which will be fulfilled in their own time."