Hello Mandatory Health Care, Goodbye Liberty

Doesnt this kinda sound like the Wolf talking to Little Red Ridding Hood lol:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/59823-bide n-healthcare-reform-will-not-harm-insurance-companies

Gee, wouldnt you have loved to be an employee in the room for that speech….

Some quote that would have been more honest that VP Biden should have used:
“we will run you out of business in 5-10 years, but dont worry we will have a socialist utopia nanny state by then so you can go on the dole!”

“We slander and call you the vilest names imaginable everyday but its only because we want you to stay “profitable” long enough for us to fully takeover Health Care!”

"Please allow us Politiicans on the left to keep screwing your premium paying customers by overcharging them to allow us to keep underfunding the bankrupt Medicare program - this is a great Stealth Tax we dont even have to answer to voters for!"

"The Individual Mandates in all those bills we proposed are great - you will enjoy you new job as a beaurcrat in a quasi-federal agency sincce your company will be about as Independent and Private as GM is today!"

These thugs have no souls!

This is Cramdown week in the Senate on Health Care - flood the phone lines and mailbags now and tell them to STOP THE MADDNESS!

This is a very dangerous period because Nationalization will still occur even without an overt government run insurance plan like this "public option" provision everyone keeps fixating on - Wyden/Bennett and the Bacus bill are prime examples of this.

Here are the core elements what will be contained in the “health care reform compromise” after the so-called “public option” is in all likelihood dropped:

(a) Federal Regulation aka HEALTH CZAR/DEATH PANELS

(b) Employer/Individual Mandates aka NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE

(c) Government Subsidies aka MIDDLE CLASS MEDICAL WELFARE

With the Federal Government setting the rules, forcing everyone to participate, and is paying the bills for most of the middle class through subsidies how is this anything other than Nationalization?

The essential components that needs to be targeted now need to be focused on are the Individual and Employer Mandates. These Mandates are the glue that holds Obamacare together - without them the whole plan falls apart. These

Obamacare is a corrupt barging that benefits big government, powerful Washington politicians, big union, and big companies/industry at the expense (once again) of the taxpayer, small business, the elderly, and the young. All American should be opposed to this corruption!

Senators and Represenatives need to be forced to go on record as not only opposing the “government options” but these Employer/Individual Mandates too before they fall into the trap of thinking they are acceptable and not government run health care. Mandates to buy private insurance sound like a “free market” solution and “individual responsibility” but in this context they are not – they are simply a front for a government run system. Many can be easily fooled by this faux “private” front (Mitt Romney was)!

Obamacare can survive the loss of a public option but it cant survive without individual mandates!

Thanks, Adam. Rich, you make some excellent points as well. Keep sounding the alarm men.

Adam and Rich. Under Article 1 Section 9, these "non-tax" taxes will also, as bills of attainder, be unconstitutional, not that we want little technical thingies like that to interfere.

Any "mandate" for insurance participation will be enforced through the mechanism of a "tax surcharge" of up to $3800 under current proposals. That is unconstitutional, as it amounts to a "penalty" based on behavior. The tax code is clearly NOT to be used to impose social engineering. Further, the imposition of such a "penalty" is a de facto criminal penalty/civil fine without Due Process as defined and banned under the Fifth Amendment. After all, it's a de facto fine for failing to behave in a government-approved fashion – by buying health insurance – which under this bill becomes essentially a crime or civil violation.

Should a bill with any such “mandate” become law, I can virtually guarantee a court challenge on that basis alone.

Obama is a Fraud! He wants to put you in Jail now for something he opposed as a Canidate!

We should be attacking these Individual Mandates daily on radio and TV TOO! Conservatives - please continue to do your utmost to alert the conservative media and the GOP Senators and Representatives about what is going on here with Obamacare!


This is the "bridge over" or foot in the water they need to get to fully socialized medicine!


And the Individual Mandate should be an easy target for conservatives and the GOP to attack since Obama has done a huge 180 from his campaign promises!


From the mouth of then Candidate Obama:


“If you look at auto insurance, in California there’s mandatory auto insurance,” Obama explained. “Twenty-five percent of the folks don’t have it. The reason is because they can’t afford it. So John and I, we’re not that different in this sense; that I’m committed to starting the process. Everybody who wants it can buy it and it’s affordable. If we have some gaps remaining, we will work on that. You take it from the opposite direction, but you’re still going to have some folks who aren’t insured under your plan, John, because some of them will simply not be able to afford to buy the coverage they’re offered.”


Can we see some flip-flop or liar adds please? The debate where he said this is on Video – why isn’t this on Fox, commercials, etc and juxtaposed to his current statements where he literally gushes over in his praise for using government force to compel you to buy a private product against your will?

Here is a link to the video with a great critic by Obama himself on why the Individual Mandates are BAD:


http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-was-aga inst-compulsory-health.html#comment-form


These individual mandates are a huge tax increase on the young and healthy!


I hope we can pick up the pace here - a 1000 year reign of socialized medicine would not be good for anyone's health.

Obama is a Fraud! He wants to put you in Jail now for something he opposed as a Canidate!

We should be attacking these Individual Mandates daily on radio and TV TOO! Conservatives - please continue to do your utmost to alert the conservative media and the GOP Senators and Representatives about what is going on here with Obamacare!


This is the "bridge over" or foot in the water they need to get to fully socialized medicine!


And the Individual Mandate should be an easy target for conservatives and the GOP to attack since Obama has done a huge 180 from his campaign promises!


From the mouth of then Candidate Obama:


“If you look at auto insurance, in California there’s mandatory auto insurance,” Obama explained. “Twenty-five percent of the folks don’t have it. The reason is because they can’t afford it. So John and I, we’re not that different in this sense; that I’m committed to starting the process. Everybody who wants it can buy it and it’s affordable. If we have some gaps remaining, we will work on that. You take it from the opposite direction, but you’re still going to have some folks who aren’t insured under your plan, John, because some of them will simply not be able to afford to buy the coverage they’re offered.”


Can we see some flip-flop or liar adds please? The debate where he said this is on Video – why isn’t this on Fox, commercials, etc and juxtaposed to his current statements where he literally gushes over in his praise for using government force to compel you to buy a private product against your will?

Here is a link to the video with a great critic by Obama himself on why the Individual Mandates are BAD:


http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-was-aga inst-compulsory-health.html#comment-form


These individual mandates are a huge tax increase on the young and healthy!


I hope we can pick up the pace here - a 1000 year reign of socialized medicine would not be good for anyone's health.