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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 2:22 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Sheila

Amen to that!

I completely agree with what you wrote. Rush is sounding like a fool these days. And, I certainly hope we avoid more nanny state, socialist gubmint in the future.

BO is about the worst I have seen yet as a liberal. I heard him make a speech the other day telling people it was time "to forget 9/11". Oh, easy for him to say I guess. Did he lose anyone that day?

What could he be thinking? And, I'll bet the New Yorkers didn't like that.

btw, when you were at my blog could you see the pics? When I put the article up, I could see the pics. Now when I go there the pics are gone. Huh? Now what is TH doing to us?
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:03 AM wil writes:

Open Primaries

are a stupid idea intended to invite independents to help in the selection of a candidate that "appeals to moderates" What they really do is open the door for the shenanigans that happened to Republicans in early primaries and to Democrats yesterday. Democrats certainly manipulated the outcome on the Republican side, but in my opinion, you don't react to a wrong done by doing the same thing to them. I do not think Hillary will win, and if she does, in many ways because of her baggage, she could be an easier opponent that Barak Obama.

But Republicans should know better. What the MSM gives Democrats a free pass on it will rip Republicans for, and Rush should know this better than anyone. Our worst case scenario is the ticket combining Hillary and her pseudo experience with Obama and his enthusiastic worshippers. If by our actions we galvanize the bitter losers of that primary to support the eventual nominee because of our "corruption", we make it harder on ourselves.

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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:04 AM Sheila writes:

Pep

Yeah, it's too bad...I just think he's gone overboard...


I can't imagine having either Hill or Ob in the WH. I heard an Ob commercial on Michael Medved that sounded like people doing a religious chant...

I could see your pics at your place...I'll see if they are still there. heading over.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:06 AM wil writes:

Strategy for Victory

What McCain and the Talk Radio circuit needs to do is begin to push the questions on Obama:

1) Does Israel have the right to make the incursions into Gaza they are currently making?

2) What (besides massive taxes on oil companies to confiscate their "excessive profits" do you plan to do about the 100+ dollar a barrel oil between your election and the time your alternate fuels and energy become available?

3) This week, Columbia killed a terrorist rebel leader who had been fomenting violence across the border from Equador. In response, Venezuela and Equador massed troops on their borders and Venezuela shut down their Columbian embassy. What would be your response to the threat of war engulfing the northern third of South America?

4) Ahmedinijad on a regular basis calls for the destruction of Israel and makes statements that could have come from News Reel footage of Hitler circa 1936. With this in mind, is it wise to continue to call for a dialog with this man? Just how much did dialog help moderate Hitler in the years between 1936 and 1940?

5) The US Navy struck at Al Quaida targets in Somalia last week and has supported Ethiopian efforts to help the recognized government in Somalia regain its place. Would you consider such action as President and would you support Somalia?

Obama is clueless. His answers would easily be madeto look childish and irresponsible if McCain is willing to engage him on substance. McCain is worried about making it personal, fine, I agree that there is more than enough policy wise to tear to shreds. But you have to be aggressive to show the people he is unfit to lead. And you have to ask the questions since the media will not. Start now, don't wait until the Democrats sort themselves out. In my opinion at least.....and Talk Radio could be abig help in this if they will focus on making Obama think and respond.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:09 AM Sheila writes:

Wil...

You are so right. We should never use the leftist's tactics...I really think Rush has lost it big time.

Rush can no longer complain about the shinanigans on the left if he proposes doing similar stuff!


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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:20 AM Sheila writes:

And Wil

Boy, you really nailed it on your second post as well...those are very significant issues that Ob needs to address, and you're right that Rush and talk radio should be jumping on it.

He can't even take tough questions from the press without walking out! Picture some questions about serious world challenges...he would have the same platitudes.

I simply cannot imagine that guy in the WH...and I'm feeling pretty positive about Mc winning. Even though I don't agree with him totaly, I believe he's got the strength to be a strong Commander in Chief in very dangerous, challenging times, and he will surround himself with very strong, good conservatives.

I think McCain will surprise a lot of conservatives when he is president,in a good way.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:29 AM Sheila writes:

Also Wil

That is a bad situation down south...not good at all.

The world seems to get more and more unstable, and a weak American president does not bode well.

Pointing that out should definitely do McCain some good in the eyes of voters.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:36 AM wil writes:

Schwartzenegger aside

we are a big tent and can live with differences within the party. The thing I fear is McCain if he feels he won by going centrist walking away from his "conservatism" again out of spite. He did so on the Bush Tax Cuts and the Gang of 14. (I believe both of those were spite driven rather than ideological). On Amnesty and Campaign Finance he is holding to things he has apparently long felt, and I would expect him to continue to support those things I disagree with. I can in my view either accept or reject him knowing he disagrees with me on these.

Arnold is an example of this. He did a few mildly conservative things early, and talked the talk at election time, but for the most part his spending and social policy is as bad as Gray Davis and his accounting tricks seem worse. That is the model that Brian always references and he has a point. And if we were talking about a governor, I might concede.

To me though, the federal level includes Commander in Chief and it is here I cannot compromise. I had no problem voting for McClintock in the recall even if it meant Arnold lost and in the second election, I voted against him going third party and didn't shed a tear. But Arnold is not responsible for foreign policy and had a Democrat beat him because of my vote, it would not have made an appreciable difference in economic or social policy. If Obama wins, and to a lesser extent if Hillary wins, we face what I think could be a disaster in foreign affairs. That is what the questions to Obama are about, and what I see Hannity and Ingraham beginning to focus on though Rush and others still are not there in my opinion.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:39 AM Peppermint2 writes:

wil

I think you should mail those questions to the McCain campaign HQ. Those are really good questions and Obama should be held accountable for his nefarious policies that will end up blowing up the entire ME. IMHO.

I hope like hell that McCain hits Obama good with debate questions and answers. Obama needs to be revealed for the pseudo/worst Jimmy Carter that he is. The press is just now starting to take some whacks at him and he cry babied about it. What a wuss. Just what we need in this time filled with danger all around the world. He would make the biggest wuss POTUS I've ever seem since Carter.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:44 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Sheila

Thanks for answering my questions. My pics came back for me to see. I don't know what happened.

Anyway, Rush should be jumping all over Obama and Hillary, not McCain. I can't believe that guy. He should be pointing out to his listeners just what kind of socialist, nanny state we're going to be under with those two idiots.

Enough of the McCain bashing as far as I'm concerned. What are we left with. Two far out liberals and a repub some people despise. At least he won't take out troops and humiliate them by pulling out of Iraq in defeat.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:56 AM Sheila writes:

Wil...

I know what you mean about Ahnuld...he has made me quite mad as well.

It's always a crap shoot to a certain extent on various issues...even Reagan made people mad on some things like amnesty for one.

My expectations are Mc will surprise us and make very conservative decisions on lots of things, but probably not all.

I guarantee you we will get better justices out of him, and a conservative cabinet for the most part, IMO.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 3:57 AM Sheila writes:

Wil...

I know what you mean about Ahnuld...he has made me quite mad as well.

It's always a crap shoot to a certain extent on various issues...even Reagan made people mad on some things like amnesty for one.

My expectations are Mc will surprise us and make very conservative decisions on lots of things, but probably not all.

I guarantee you we will get better justices out of him, and a conservative cabinet for the most part, IMO.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 4:00 AM Sheila writes:

Pep

Did you see how Ob dealt with the press when they asked tough questions? He blamed Hill...and then walked out!
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 4:07 AM Sheila writes:

And Pep

That is so weird that your pics would disappear and then come back...I don't get it. Well, I just thought I lost a post because we were posting at the same time, so I re-posted, and there it was... twice...oops!

I have to admitt, the TH guys did a fantastic job with the new format of the entire TH blog. What do you think of it? With all the changes, I have had no problems really, a few glitches that were fixed... how about you?
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 4:09 AM Sheila writes:

And Wil, I forgot

to mention...I think open primaries stink. It just opens the door for people to mess things up big time...
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 7:27 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Where to begin

I agree that primaries should be limited to registered members of the party. I am also not fond of the winner take all method common with the GOP. My primary vote counted for exactly nothing this cycle. Winner takes all forces voters to try and pick whom they think will win rather than whom they think is best.

Rasmussen agrees with Limbaugh, stating that the big winner in TX and OH was John McCain since OB and Hillary must now fight down to the wire, with the attendant opportunities for mistakes to be made, while the McCain campaign watches for talking points.

The goal of all candidates is to find 51% of the vote. If a candidate runs squarely down the middle and finds 25.5% on either side then they win. A campaign can afford to overlook certain groups, in this cycle it's conservatives, as long as they are confident that the ignored group won't crossover and vote for their opponent. I am not happy about this strategy but I would never say that it doesn't work.

I would wager to guess that if the McCain campaign senses that conservatives are going to sit out the election, we could well see McCain move even more to the left picking up additional democrat voters.

It is a very unconventional strategy, but at least on paper, it is entirely workable. McCain benefits hugely from keeping the other two talking as long as possible. Once the lines are drawn then the LSM is going to start to control the debate.

Politics doesn't operate under Marquess of Queensberry rules and I can tell you from personal experience, working on campaigns, that there is a good reason why true believers aren't allowed in the backroom.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 8:19 AM Scottie writes:

Ok Class, settle down

First, Rush's idea is trying to keep the conflict between the Dem candidates going for as long as possible. This buys McCain more time to consolidate his base while the Dems keep tearing into one another. Conservatives are the party of ideas.

Second, winner take all is the reason that McCain has decisively won the nomination and has the time to consolidate his base. Proportional delegate counts are precisely the reason that the Dems will wind up having a huge problem this summer.

If Hillary wins by gerimandering the Super Delegates, Obama's supporters will rightly cry foul (and racist!) and it will split the party. If Obama wins the nomination, Hillary's supporters will claim that he can't win because his support comes primarily from red states he won't/can't carry in the general elecion.

Third, Rush is free to suggest whatever he pleases. It's not like conservatives get their marching orders from a central command. Unlike the lefties, we don't tend to make our decisions based on what entertainers say, even if we might find some ideas intriguing.

Any questions?
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 9:54 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Scottie Nailed this one...

with his above post. The idea is to destroy the Dumocrat Party before it destroys the USA. I personally think that Rush's idea on this is pretty good.

If the Dumocrat Convention this year is like the 1968 Dumocrat Convention, it will be a major victory for Conservatives. (The rest of the country will see what the Dumocrat Party really is!)

Hitlery only cares about POWER. She will do anything to acquire POWER! I agree with Rush, keep her in the race by all means.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 10:17 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Scottie and Gray Ghost

I never thought of it the way you guys put it, but it's a brilliant strategy really if that's the case. I would like to see the dim party implode on itself.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 11:17 AM BrianR writes:

Gotta laugh

Limbaugh has been very anti-RINO from the jump, so I think many of you are reading more into this than is really there.

Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, that BrianR guy.... these are real conservatives who think McCain basically sucks as a nominee, don't mind saying so, may very well (and in at least one case definitely will) either abstain from McCain or actually vote for his opponent, and it's as simple as that. Don't look at it as a covert anti-Dem tactic; take it at face value. I haven't listened to Limbaugh, but if he was promoting this as an anti-Dem tactic, he'd have said so. The guy's not subtle nor devious.

He may well simply want the best Dem candidate possible running in November as a boon to the country in the face of McCain's almost inevitable defeat.

Sheila, I had to chuckle also at your outrage in your essay. This isn't new ground, girl! Conservatives are outraged this time, like I've never seen before in my life. Bush has been a disaster the last couple of years or so, and McCain's EVEN WORSE on all the issues. He makes DOLE look conservative, and we know what happened to Dole. He's as bad as Schwarzenegger, and Ah-nuld's a bloody liberal disgracing the GOP label.

Well, also like Dole, maybe he can get a Viagra gig after his defeat.


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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 11:59 AM Sheila writes:

Sarge

Interesting perspective.

Personally, I think the dems can mess up their party totally on their own...:)and of course I agree that we will have the advantage if Ob and Hill are at each other's throats 'till the convention, but to have people blindly following a talk show host to the polls, I find ridiculous.

I don't like using the tactics of the left...and Rush has become very dictatorial as though he is the definer of the fate of the GOP and the candidates...well it looks like he isn't, based on the election results.

I don't appreciate the way he portrays conservatives...when you spend all your time on the air screaming at the GOP candidates because they aren't what you as a talk show host would have ordered, it accomplishes nothing, IMO, except give the dems the tools to fight our side.

To me the last straw is telling people to vote Hill...as she said "watch what you wish for"...
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 12:14 PM Sheila writes:

Scottie LOL

Professor...thaks for the lesson!

Yup, everything you say is correct, however as a smart mouth student...giggle...giggle I have to say I'd prefer to have the dems nail their own coffin...

Rush's strategy so far has gotten us our least favorite nominee...I hope he doesn't succeed in getting us the worst possible president! Hill and Slick would be laughing all the way to the WH, and thanking Rush!
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 12:16 PM Sheila writes:

Oh, and uh, professor...

Question: How do you think Rush's strategy has worked for our side so far? (Check my previous post)...LOL
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 12:24 PM Sheila writes:

Gray Ghost

Well, I agree about the dems destroying themselves before they destroy the USA...however, as we have seen, they are more than capable of doing that on their own!(Look at how pathetic they look!)When the enemy is in the process of destroying itself, doesn't it make more sense to get out of the way and let them do it? LOL

I agree with the idea, but not the strategy of our side doing what they do...:)

Plus, tell me how Rush has succeeded so far...he didn't get the most conservative nominee...where did he go wrong, if he is so powerful and so good at playing God...huh?...:)

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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 12:41 PM Sheila writes:

Hey Pep!

I love the idea of the dems imploding too...but...as I mentioned to Scottie, they are perfectly capable of doing it to themselves without us doing it by using their crooked tactics!

As to Rush's fabulous strategy...where has it gotten us so far? Not the nominee we thought we would have right now ...uh, maybe he's not as good at "strategery" as he thinks...LOL
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 12:50 PM Sheila writes:

Brian LOL

Surprise! I'm not surprised at your response! But you are always eloquent!

You and Rush are on the same strategic track...so far it hasn't worked all that well...look who's the nominee...in case you guys hadn't noticed, the strategery has backfired...and now it just may do it again, if Hill becomes pres...

At this point, I wouldn't bet on Rush's "strategery"...

I actually do believe Mc will be a far superior president than Ob, or Hill, but with Rush's current batting record, I would hate to depend on his game plan for victory...:)
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 1:08 PM BrianR writes:

Well, Sheila

I hate to inform you, but I make my own decisions. I haven't listened to Limbaugh for years. I find out what he's said by reading it right here when folks like you complain about him.

As to who's the nominee; if you've been reading my blog, you know this is no surprise to me. I've been writing now for almost a year that the GOP was heading in the wrong direction like a train barelling toward a concrete wall. I was warning against Bald Hillary and McCrazy since last Spring. And of the probable consequences should either get the nomination.

If anything, Limbaugh and Coulter are very late to the game; maybe they're both readers of the Island.

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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 1:10 PM BrianR writes:

PS, Sheila

The only way I'll consider the "strategery" to have failed will be if McCain actually wins.

To me, THAT would be the worst outcome.

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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 7:03 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Sheila

Hillary has to win 94% of the delegates the rest of the way out to over come the OB lead. That's not going to happen. The dems will go to their convention and the superdems will decide the outcome. Either way it goes half the democrats are going to be unhappy. What is bad about that?

Limbaugh is just like the rest of us conservatives who took our eye of McCain when it looked like his candidacy was folding under the amnesty issue. By the time the talking heads got into the game the nomination was already nearly over.

I have noticed that in this cycle it has become fashionable to portray conservatives as mindless sheep playing follow the talk radio leader. I can assure you that I was making up my own mind about candidates a long time before Rush Limbaugh signed on in Rio Lindo and will continue to do so in the future.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 8:04 PM Virginia Daddy writes:

If there is a lack of a better option

I will probably vote for McCain.

I know some are vehemently against, and that's fine. This is their choice. But I cannot allow Hillary or Obama to take office, if indeed it is inevitible (which it may be).

Conservatives are in a bind, and there's really no good answer.

As to Rush, he's losing influence. Take him witha grain of salt.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 8:16 PM Scottie writes:

OK Sheila

Perhaps a little ditty may help clarify. If your opponent is determined to bury themselves, I see no problem with loaning them the shovel.

Throwing a few votes Hillary's way to keep her in the fight, given that McCain has locked up the nod for the Pubs, is probably the most constructive decision a Pub can make at this point.

I truly don't think Hillary can win the general election. She's shrill, thickheaded, and unlikable. And if she gets the nod, there's no way she'll escape the vitriol of the black voters that will feel they were robbed of "their" candidate by her. Maybe enough of them will stay home to offset the conservatives that will be doing the same thing.

I for one will not sit it out if Hillary is the Dem nominee; I might be pizzed off, but I'm not suicidal.

If it's Obama, I might sit it out. I don't think he can do anything but look like the inexperienced pup he is once he lands on the hot seat. And the Pubs in the senate will pretty much have a field day blocking everything he tries to do.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 8:50 PM ScarletPimpernel writes:

Sheila

You made it appear that you actually listen to Rush. If so, you've missed his strategy as the others here have stated. And I don't think Rush cares one way or the other who wins. He really dislikes McCain as do most conservatives. McCain comes at the end of a run of GHW Bush, GHW Bush, Dole, W and W. Plus McCain has been gleefully harmful to the Party. This is getting ridiculous.

And, as Scottie, said, Rush doesn't tell anyone what to do. We are not mind-numbed robots. I only get to hear him a couple of hours a week and I "get" his method of communication.
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 8:56 PM ScarletPimpernel writes:

Besides

The voters did nothing illegal or immoral. It's what we did here in GA to get rid of Cynthia McKinney - Repubs crossed over to vote for her opponent in the primary. It worked, albeit briefly but she's gone now thank God. If I want to use my vote to get my guy elected, why not use it wisely?

I still think McCain will win. It will be the lowest turnout in decades and he will have the lowest "mandate". Our standards have sunk and it will be a crappy 4 years.

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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 11:20 PM Sheila writes:

Brian LOL

Cheer up man, you sound depressed...all h*ll hasn't broken loose yet...

I know, you have been going on for a while now on your blog...:)

Well it's out of your hands now, looks like the jig is up, and you will have to resign from life since of all things the voters elected McCain!

But, don't despare, things could still go your way, and Hill or Ob could pull it off...
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 11:25 PM Sheila writes:

PS Brian

You're cracking me up...

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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 11:41 PM Sheila writes:

Sarge

I agree, and nothing bad about the dems being unhappy...

It will be interesting to watch the dems implode, due to their own shinanigans...if Hill gets the nomination the blacks will stay home in November, and if Ob gets the nomination the hispanics will stay home...either way Mc wins...

As to Rush, I think he is being used by the MSM...he is looking foolish, IMO.

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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 11:46 PM Sheila writes:

VDaddy

Rush is looking foolish and the MSM is using him...

I don't like using demlike tactics to manipulate the election outcomes.

We don't like it when they do it to us!
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Thursday, March, 06, 2008 11:52 PM Sheila writes:

Scottie

I agree, professor, Hill will have a hard time.

Ob hasn't faced the music yet...

Truthfully, it's all up in the air...

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Friday, March, 07, 2008 12:04 AM BrianR writes:

I don't know where you get

the idea I'm "depressed". Not at all. Disgusted, yes. Depressed, no.

I'd have to actually care about the outcome to be "depressed", and I don't.

I'm a disinterested observer.


Now... if McCain should actually WIN.... yeah, that may be depressing.


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Friday, March, 07, 2008 12:07 AM Sheila writes:

Scarlet

Rush has become like the MSM...he's become his own echo chamber, IMO.

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Friday, March, 07, 2008 12:13 AM Sheila writes:

Scarlet

I'm glad Cynthia McKinney got booted out! What a loon!

And if people want ot cross over in an open primary, go for it.

As to Rush, he's not doing too hot as a GOP strategerist...IMO
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Friday, March, 07, 2008 1:01 AM Sheila writes:

Sarge, Brian, Scottie, Scarlet

You sounded like you thought I was saying YOU were following Rush, and not thinking for yourselves...that was not the point I was making.

The point is, HE was sounding like he was the big Cahoona in the sky, who could say "vote for Hill" and it would be done...so how did the MSM portray it? Exactly as Sarge said..."we're being led like sheep"...not true, but that's the way the MSM spins it.

Then, if Hill were to win, who is going to look FOOLISH? Rush, and all the folks who said they did "what Rush said". It will be in headlines the day after the election "Rush wins it for Hill".

The point is, whatever strategery is to be implemented should not be put in front of the other side for their scruitiny, and to be spinned the way they want...THAT is not good strategery...even Rove agrees with me.
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Friday, March, 07, 2008 2:32 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Re: the "White Limbaugh" (tm)

Sheila -
> ... He will truly look like a fool if Hill becomes president. ...

Too late.


> When I first heard Rush, he was saying the things I was thinking, ...

Or not thinking. Here's a quote from Rush, oh, back in '93 or '94: "I don't believe open-mindedness."

When I first heard Rush, it was during the Clarence Thomas hearings. I would watch the hearings, and then I heard Rush and his show consisted of a lying-type propagandic rewriting of history of what happened that very day. He depends on his listeners to not being up on what's really happening in real life.
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Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:35 AM ScarletPimpernel writes:

Stan

re: Rush
"He depends on his listeners to not being up on what's really happening in real life."

He's not a Dem/lib so this statement makes no sense. It is incorrect on a couple of levels.
1. If that strategy worked, what happened to Air America?
2. Why is he successful no matter who is President?
3. Most conservatives understand "real life" because they work and live a real life and, therefore, cannot spend hours listening to Rush.
4. Studies have shown that cons are more informed than Dem/libs so what are you talking about?
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Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:40 AM ScarletPimpernel writes:

Sheila

Rush calls himself, "America's Anchorman" - this is a jab at the old stream anchors like Jennings and Rather who would actually tell Americans what to think because they had a monopoly on the news.

You have to know that Rush "illustrates absurdity by being absurd". So he often acts arrogant and claims to run America because other people (on the Left) claim that's what he does. And he acts like his listeners will do whatever he says because that's how the Left thinks it works. It's all in fun.

Except the part about being tired of the GOP bending over so often. And he really doesn't like McCain.

My wife doesn't get it either about Rush and she won't listen long enough to get it. It takes a few times to get the hang of it.
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 1:17 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Re: Scarlet @ Friday, 3-7-2008 10:35 AM

Hmm., you seem to projecting your side's faults onto the Democrats.

As "Genius Al" Yankovic sings: Everything you know is wrong, *BLACK IS WHITE UP IS DOWN and SHORT IS LONG*.
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 1:19 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

AAR

> ... what happened to Air America?

http://www.airamerica.com/
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 1:53 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Scarlet

Are you a Christian, by chance?
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 10:57 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Sheila

I suppose you've notice that over the past couple of days things have worsened for the dims. The gloves are really coming off now and the implosion may very well happen. At least I hope so. It is far too much fun to watch these idiots eat each other.

Like VADaddy there is no way I'd vote for either BO or Hill. Neither one of them are competent enough to be CIC and my nephew is going to Iraq in April.

I see the usual arguments are going on over here. It never ends. Round and round it goes and no one knows when it stops. Maybe never.
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 11:46 AM ScarletPimpernel writes:

Stan

You would know about projecting. I know why the Repubs lost. They went moderate and when you go moderate the people choose the Dem/libs.

Your statement about conservatives being unknowledgeable is incorrect and I gave you reasons why I think it is incorrect. You gave no response except to quote Weird Al.

Air America is going down the tubes. They are on their last oxygen tank. Now is that because Americans can't handle the "truth" or is it because Dem/libs are boring and have a hard time with reality and we don't care to waste time on them?

btw- name me all the Liberals who won seats in '06. Also, name all the plans the Dem/libs have pushed through since their huge victory in '06.

Yes, I'm a follower of Christ.
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 11:47 AM ScarletPimpernel writes:

p.s Air America

Stan, are you an example of Dem/libs being in the know?
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 1:11 PM anti-socialist writes:

ScarletPimpernel

You are
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 1:13 PM anti-socialist writes:

ScarletPimpernel (continued)

You are quite correct in your comments regarding Rush. My Mom (77) listens to him daily and recognizes all the "games" that he's playing with the radical liberals.

(Sorry about the previous incomplete post)
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 1:22 PM anti-socialist writes:

ScarletPimpernel (continued)

(sorry aobut the previous incompletion)

You are quite correct! Rush is too intellegent for most people. He knows how to play the games with the liberals and confuses them on a regular basis (too bad some conservatives don't catch on). Mom is 77 & listens to Rush on a daily basis, catching on to all his "sly" comments.

(McCain is a lefty - having threatened to leave the Republicans for the Democrats when the Republicans wouldn't accept his liperal desires.)
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 3:41 PM Greg England writes:

Tactical voting

This happened a lot in the UK in the 1990s, when Labour and Lib Dems got together and voted for each other's parties in the common cause of getting the Conservative party out of office.

The jury is out whether Rush's tactics will help the Republican party in Operation Democrat Split(i.e. John McCain facing a bitterly divided Democrat party).

It may also be that if his plan backfires, and Hillary does win office, then Rush achieves the longer term strategic goal of preserving the conservative movement by avoiding a Rino Republican.

However, it's a risky plan and I hope that the Generalissimo elRushbo knows what he is doing.

----------------------

I have another reason for visiting your blog; I'm trying to interest US readers in this gem of a blog written by a soon to be ex-pat from the UK:

http://www.goodbyeblighty.com/

No, I don't know them, but I found their blog referenced on the Daily Telegraph comments page.
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 3:45 PM Greg England writes:

Timing

"As to Rush's fabulous strategy...where has it gotten us so far?"

With hindsight, maybe he should have been more strong in his support of the more conservative GOP candidates.

But what would I know, I'm a Brit, and the only policies that directly affect me are foreign policy ... oh yeah, and economic policy given the fact that the US still appears to drive the world economy.

:o)

(These days I seem to know more about US politics than UK politics, although it was gratifying to hear Gordon Brown's kind words about Margaret Thatcher's recent hospital stay. I know that all politicians are polite when the occasion demands, but he appeared to be genuinely concerned about her health).
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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 4:14 PM jevica writes:

Sheila and All

Scottie beat me to it about the Limbaugh vote for Hillary drive. BTW he was 100% right on. BrianR also was correct in that he has been ahead of the curve on this issue.

Rush is a talk show host [that's all] he can't make anyone do anything he just informs. listen to him or not it's up to you [millions do listen].

I believe I read in the comments that it was Rush's fault we have this candidate [McLiberal] no it's not, it's the voters, BTW I also agree we should have closed primaries. That was one of Rush's points. If the Democrats and Independents can help chose our nominee than let's help them keep this fiasco going.

The Democrats don't have the winner take all in the primary voting that's why they are where they are now with choosing their candidate.

BTW McCain's ACU rating for 2006 was only 56. His lifetime rating fudges his recent low marks.
We all have to remember the great hits of his liberal record on Taxes, Judges, Free Speech, Global Warming, Immigration and Social Conservatism. It seemed every time the Republicans were going to get a win McCain stepped in and screwed it up.

Don't tell me I want either one of those on the Democrat side, it's obvious I don't but except for his Iraq stance McCain is not any kind of conservative.

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Saturday, March, 08, 2008 8:54 PM Scottie writes:

OK Sheila, Dentention for you!

The point is, HE was sounding like he was the big Cahoona in the sky, who could say "vote for Hill" and it would be done
[I'm shocked!, shocked I tell you! Rush Limbaugh has a big ego?! When did this occur? Somehow it has escaped the notice of only one person I know of: YOU! You have a remarkable ability to state the obvious as some kind of revelation.]


...so how did the MSM portray it? Exactly as Sarge said..."we're being led like sheep"...not true, but that's the way the MSM spins it.
[If you haven't developed a thicker hide than to be bothered by what the MSM says about conservatives, you must not have been one for very long. Your homework is to visit the Huffington Post and read at least thirty posts there at random until your resistance improves.]
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Sunday, March, 09, 2008 3:39 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Scarlet

I asked -
>> Are you a Christian, by chance?

Scarlet responded -
> Yes, I'm a follower of Christ.

So I assume that you believe in the 10 Commandments. Correct?

(StanNote: We'll skip a step hear in the name of not wanting to waste bandwith and we will assume that Scarlet believes in the 10 Commandments)

So, Y are you breaking the *VERY* 1st commandment about not putting false Gods before your (supposed) real God? (Rush is whom he/she is idolizing instead of (supposed) God)
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Sunday, March, 09, 2008 3:41 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Re: AAR

Scar Tissue that I wish you saw -
> Air America is going down the tubes. They are on their last oxygen tank.

So, just out of curiosity, how many years have you been saying that now?
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Sunday, March, 09, 2008 10:35 AM Edamon50 writes:

Sheila

I see that you're annoyed by el Rushbo, but this is simply a strategy that he cooked up on the show to keep the Democrats at each other's throats. As long as Hillary and Obama are fighting it out, the better off McCain will be. Think about it, McCain has a senior advisor that has pledged to resign if McCain "goes negative" on Obama, and McCain has shown a real reluctance to go bareknuckles after the guy. So what you do is you let Hillary bloody Obama in the primary fight, you allow Hillary to show his shortcomings, and when the time comes...and it will come...all McCain has to do is point to what the DEMOCRATS have said about Obama. He can use the words of Hillary Clinton to attack Obama, and no one can say that HE is making anything up. As for what the media says about Rush and his show, it doesn't matter since they will misrepresent everything he says anyhow. If Rush said, "Mary had a little lamb, whose fleece was white as snow", the media would turn it into some type of advocacy of white supremacy! That's the game they play, so you have to deal with it; you may as well say what you want, since no matter what you say it's going to be turned into a negative.
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Sunday, March, 09, 2008 11:11 AM ScarletPimpernel writes:

Stan the Projecting Denier

Stan, I have to clue you in: being flippant and "clever" are not the same as being coherent and smart.

You're being silly now. I'll bet few people on TH have the time to idolize Rush. I only hear him about 90 minutes or so a week but have listened to him for years (after football and basketball seasons are over).

Air America stinks on ice. They've lost most of their market. They lasted here in Atlanta for about 18 months and got pulled. Al Franken is a typical Dem/lib - he lies and bores, no one listens, and he finds someone to blame. Also, he stole money from the orphans $875,000 and ignores employment insurance laws as well. He scapegoats others like his hero Bill Clinton.
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Sunday, March, 09, 2008 3:41 PM Joe writes:

Rush is an entertainer...

And as an entertainer, he chooses to balance what he thinks with some outrageous ideas in order to be amusing.

Ialso believe that is in bad taste to vote for Clinton.

But lets face it, being a Texas Voter, Democrats had already chosen my candidate for me. And since I am an absentee voter, my county in Texas did not sent my ballot on time anyway. So I add my voice to the long list of disenfranchised Conservatives.

Disenfranchised because the Dems chose for me my candidate.

http://thinkingamerican.blogtownhall.com

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Sunday, March, 09, 2008 6:18 PM goblue writes:

I must have missed the list

of electable conservatives that we aren't getting to run. Romney had his chance and lost. And it was our conservative congressmen that behaved so badly that they got themselves run out of town. McCain is our best bet. And I'm still angry at Bush for running as a compassionate conservative. Conservatism is the default compassionate position on any issue. His campaign was an insult to all of us.
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 12:24 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Re: AAR

> Air America stinks on ice.

Sometimes. One of their biggest problems is that they fire or marganilize their best talent.


> They've lost most of their market.

They've been censored from the so-called "free-market".


> They lasted here in Atlanta for about 18 months and got pulled.

I think a Christian group bought that station and immediately flipped it to another Christian station, as I recall that one.

BTW: Most often when a AAR station gets flipped, it's ratings go down.


> Al Franken is a typical Dem/lib

No, he's funnier than most of us.


> - he lies and bores

Straw man(s).


> no one listens

Duh!!!! He quit AAR to run for Senate.


> and he finds someone to blame.

Straw man.

> Also, he stole money from the orphans $875,000 and ignores employment insurance laws as well.

Straw man(s).


> He scapegoats others like his hero Bill Clinton.

Straw man. Attack the real Al Franken, and attack the real AAR, you're missing your targets.
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 12:25 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Decompassionate

> Conservatism is the default compassionate position on any issue.

What planet do you live *IN*????
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 2:06 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

White Limbaugh (tm)

White Limbaugh (parody of White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane) - Stan and the Sequencers

One meal, makes him larger
And one meal, makes him fall
And the ones that, Mama feeds him
Don’t constipate him, at all
Go ask Limbaugh, when he’s ten feet tall

And if he’s out, chasing Liberals
And he thinks we’re, going to fall
He’ll crush us, and he’ll snort us
As he’s taking, a call
Call Limbaugh, and he will fall

Whine man on the chess board
Get up and tell you where to go
And he’s just had, a narcotic
And his IQ appears small
Go ask Limbaugh, I think he’ll know
About logic, and proportion
He abuses them on his show
‘Cause the white Rush is talking backwards
And the reds and yellows he’s shooting
Remember, what de “Continhead” ™ said
“I’m braindead
I’m braindead
I’m braindead”
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 3:30 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

ContinHead's (tm) Nightmare -

http://tbsn.thesequencers.us/?p=124
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 12:34 PM Sheila writes:

Brian LOL

Glad you're not depressed...:)but I think you might be if you wake up and Hill or Ob are in the WH along with a majority demsocialists in the Congress...you can say goodby to any hope for sanity...

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Monday, March, 10, 2008 12:44 PM Sheila writes:

Scarlet...:)

Believe me, I've been a Rush fan, and I know how he likes to tweak the MSM with the arrogant act...

What I dislike is this "attitude" that he is running the GOP, and that HIS strategery should be followed...

I think we all know it's best for our nominee if the dems are in a fight up to their convention...but how about us letting them do it on their own? We shouldn't adopt the left's tactics. I just dont' like that approach, and I think Rush sounds like a union boss telling people how to vote...

I don't like giving the MSM fodder, and I think Rush is getting such a big head he is doing just that...I'm not sure he's helping our side.
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 12:48 PM Sheila writes:

Pep

Yeah...the dms are showing their true colors...they are really letting the world see who they are...

You are correct that Hill or Ob would be disastrous for our country. There is no way I want either of those two in the WH.
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 12:59 PM Sheila writes:

Greg England

You are correct that Rush's plan could backfire. It is scary when we start playing around with elections, IMO. If we don't keep things on the up and up how will we truly have fair elections?

It's a slippery sloap...
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 1:10 PM Sheila writes:

And Greg

It's great to have you paying attention to US politics...though I fear this is a really bad time here in the US for that subject.

You're right that our foreign policy can affect you guys there in the UK...

Unfortunately we can't control who runs for president, and the most conservative candidates didn't get any traction...so we're left with one man standing. Our foreign policy will be in shambles if the left in this country takes over, and that is an un-acceptable option.

As you say "in hindsight" Rush could have supported the best candidate sooner...well, he wanted perfection...and IMO acted like a spoiled bratt and wound up helping the dems...:(
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 1:17 PM Sheila writes:

Jevica

As Greg England said above, the jury is still out on the success of Rush's strategery...he would look very foolish if Hill did win, and the country would be worse off for it.

Rush's job is not to tell people what to do, IMO.

:)
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 1:22 PM Sheila writes:

And Jev...

When I heard people from Texas call in on Hannity and say they "did what Rush said to do, and voted Hill" I couldn't believe it...people acted like sheep! A talk show host trying to be God in the US elections...not a good thing IMO.

Isn't his job to tell the truth that the MSM won't? When did he become the GOP strategerist?He's turning into a big headed dud.
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 1:35 PM Sheila writes:

Jev

Rush is at his best when he's pointing out the falacy of leftism...when he's exposing Hill and Ob for who they really are...when he stays on the subjects tha MSM won't cover...remember "equal time"? That's when I like to listen to Rush...:)

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Monday, March, 10, 2008 1:44 PM Sheila writes:

Scottie LOL

Professor...your punishment is too hard for me to endure...:) I would need a padded cell after spending time on the Huff site...please...can I do math tables instead?...:)
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 1:53 PM Sheila writes:

Flagwaver

"Annoyed with El Rushbo"...LOL...you noticed...I remember back in the days when Mike (is he still on TH?) accused me of not being original and sounding too much like Rush...those were the good o'l days...

I know el rushbo has this grand strategy to be the great poobah and then take the credit...the dems were doing fine on their own being at each other's throats,IMO, and if his strategery is a dud, it could come back to haunt him...
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 2:01 PM Sheila writes:

Stan...

AA...I was listening by accident one day in the car and this person was talking about how evil Barbara Bush is...what a rotten country the US is...the usual blame America fist stuff...

Now, for someone to actually think Barbara Bush, (one of the most loved first ladies), is evil...well, it's no wonder they totally tanked...LOL

I know you don't agree with any of that...you're a reasonable guy...
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 3:49 PM Edamon50 writes:

Don't take him so seriously!

Rush is no different from any of us, except he has a bigger megaphone than we do. We all, especially us bloggers, have ideas that we think will work and are actively trying to influence this election. We are either telling everyone to support or withhold support for McCain, and we are actively working to undermine the campaign of Obama and Clinton, right? So what's the difference? WE think we know what's best, WE are trying to tell people to support/not support particular candidates, and WE all think we have it pretty well figured out!

Besides which, if it is okay to allow Democrats and independents to crossover and basically choose John McCain for us, why is it wrong to return the favor? Besides, I don't think it matters who gets the Democratic nomination, b/c I don't see McCain being able to galvanize the Party well enough to win. When you are already on record as not being willing to go after your opponent, what chance do you really have to win? He is not going after Obama,,and the Clintons will eat him up. And look at how he won the nomination, by winning states with large crossover votes! If you do that to win the primary, you better know that you are NOT getting the Democratic/independent vote come November when they have their OWN candidate to vote for!
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 5:36 PM Sheila writes:

Flagwaver LOL

You make some good points...I agree we are all talking about our thoughts politically, but as you say, the MSM doesn't put us on TV for the world to see....:)

We'll see about Mc...he's low-keying it right now while the two socialists go at each other. He'll come out of the corner after the dems annoint their nominee, and he'll get in the fight after they've destroyed each other, IMO... it may be good strategery on his part...

Speaking of annointing...did you hear the chants for Ob that sounded like some religious rite? Wow...I think people are being lulled into a blind zombi state, like he's the ultimate spiritual guru who's come to save the planet...
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Monday, March, 10, 2008 7:05 PM Sheila writes:

Joe and Goblue...I missed you comments

Joe, I agree, Rush is an entertainer who happens to be a conservative...btw, your vote wasn't counted? That stinks. What can be done?

Goblue...we have one man standing, and we don't want Hill or Ob.

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Tuesday, March, 11, 2008 1:08 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

> ... Now, for someone to actually think Barbara Bush, (one of the most loved first ladies), is evil...well, it's no wonder they totally tanked...LOL

They haven't tanked.


? I know you don't agree with any of that...you're a reasonable guy...

Right on! I certainly don't believe that Barbara Bush is one of the most loved first ladies.
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Tuesday, March, 11, 2008 1:18 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Barbara Bush: Un-comp. Conservative

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/24/barbara-bush-un-co mpassionate-conservative/
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Tuesday, March, 11, 2008 1:52 AM Cynewulf writes:

"Al Franken is a typical Dem/lib"

"No, he's funnier than most of us."

That ain't saying much.
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Tuesday, March, 11, 2008 2:15 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Cyne

Most everything that was funniest about Saturday Night Live (when he was there), (future Senator) Al Franken had a hand in writing.
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Tuesday, March, 11, 2008 2:35 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Al Franken

Tell me, is he wearing an American flag pin (made in China) in this video???? -

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2HfcrqXtxOM
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Tuesday, March, 11, 2008 4:37 PM Tonewah writes:

Blah Blah Bombastic

All I hear is rhetoric. I'm tired of the idiocy involved with believing what you hear or see in the conglomerate media. Even the comments to this blog post are rife with little pieces of misinfo picked up from CNN and FOX.
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Wednesday, March, 12, 2008 12:41 AM BrianR writes:

Au contraire, Sheila

See, that's the one thing you always fail to grasp when we discuss this issue: for me, this race is ALREADY over, and I ALREADY lost. No matter what, the next four years are going to be miserable; the only issue is whether the person who's going to be so lousy in the White House has an (R) or a (D) behind their names.

Capisce?

And that's why I think it's better for McCain to lose. If McCain wins, the GOP gets the message that RINOs are a good bet (so we'll get even more of the same in the future), the congressional GOPers won't fight "their President" while he "reaches across the aisle" and makes bad policy with his Dem confederates, and the country is just basically screwed while the GOP finalizes its transition to the Dem-Lite Party.

But if McCain loses, the GOP may finally realize that they can't win with RINOs anymore, and they'd better get their act together; the congressional GOPers always play better defense anyway; the Dem in the WH will be a one-termer, and hopefully we can have a truly conservative candidate next time.
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Thursday, March, 13, 2008 11:34 AM Sheila writes:

Stan...

Franken is funny sometimes,IMO, but that doesn't qualify him for office...:)he's a leftie nutcase!
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Thursday, March, 13, 2008 11:40 AM Sheila writes:

Doc...

I just happen to believe in not playing by the opponents rules...I know it's all legal and all, but I don't like doing it. And I don't think Rush is qualified to be GOP stragtegerist, and the last thing I would do is do what he "tells" me to do!

He has become too full of himself,with so much adulation and I don't like the way he has bashed the GOP candidates giving the dems the lines to use against them.

He has become his own echo chamber.
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Thursday, March, 13, 2008 11:47 AM Sheila writes:

Mister Macho!

Brian, I totally get what you're saying capisco, capisco!

However I disagree...

Though Mc, as an independent minded guy is not my perfect candidate, I believe he will be 100% better for the future of our country than Hill or Ob.

Those two have nothing but their own power and control over the rest of us in their sights...

Cheer up, it won't be as bad as you are thinking when Mc becomes president...

Maybe next time around you can throw your hat in the ring...LOL

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Thursday, March, 13, 2008 12:02 PM Sheila writes:

Cyne!

Where ya been? Good to see ya back!
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Thursday, March, 13, 2008 12:03 PM Sheila writes:

Tonewah

Maybe you can enlighten us all...feel free...
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Thursday, March, 13, 2008 5:47 PM BrianR writes:

LOL, Sheila

You: "Those two have nothing but their own power and control over the rest of us in their sights..."

And McCain is different HOW?
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Thursday, March, 13, 2008 8:37 PM jevica writes:

Sheila

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLK1Xpc7SMQ

Look at this video.
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Thursday, March, 13, 2008 11:31 PM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

> Franken ... a leftie

Straw man. Actually, he's a moderate.

> nutcase!

Straw man. Attack the real Al Franken, you're missing your target.
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Thursday, March, 13, 2008 11:35 PM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Re: LOL, Sheila

Sheila -
>> Those two have nothing but their own power and control over the rest of us in their sights...

Brian -
> And McCain is different HOW?

I'm awaiting Sheila's response ... (but in the meantime I'll point out that Sheila was in fact describing McCain't and attempted to project McCain't's *TAINTed* image upon Obama (more than on Clinton, whom will drink McCain't under the table. Vodka, specificly.))
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Friday, March, 14, 2008 12:26 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Doc

> I'm sticking with El Rushbo on this one.

Just curious, do you also *STICK* with the "White Limbaugh" (tm) in this supposed opinion of his? -

http://www.thesequencers.us/WhatsAMetaU/samples/clsdmnd.wav
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Friday, March, 14, 2008 12:32 AM BrianR writes:

Well, Stan, gotta say

I'm also awaiting that response.
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Friday, March, 14, 2008 10:45 AM Virginia Daddy writes:

Howdy Sheila

I don't do this often, but shameless plug time.

I've gotta new one up. Come one come all.
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Friday, March, 14, 2008 1:12 PM Sheila writes:

Doc...

Hey, guess we'll have to agree to disagree...:)

All I know is this is a very scary time in American history.

Our country could easily go down the tubes with a weak president, so let's hope most people figure that out...although we don't have the perfect candidate, we can't afford weaklings like Hill and Ob...they don't understand the threat from the fantics who want to kill us.
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Friday, March, 14, 2008 1:17 PM Sheila writes:

Brian

Oops didn't see your comment...well, I think Mc has better reasons for wanting to be president. For one thing he understands the threat we face from fanatics...and he will have a much different cabinet than Hill or Ob.

He's not my first choice, but Hill and Ob are definitely not a choice for me...
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Friday, March, 14, 2008 1:19 PM Sheila writes:

Stan...:)

Somehow I knew you wouldn't agree on my assessment of Franken...LOL
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Friday, March, 14, 2008 1:23 PM Sheila writes:

As to how Hill and Ob

are different from Mc: they would be weak presidents with no clue about the threat from extremists. They just want more and bigger govt to have more and more control over us.

Mc, though not perfect is definitely the best choice...he understands the threat, and as I said to Brian, he'd have a much different cabinet, IMO.

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Friday, March, 14, 2008 1:24 PM Sheila writes:

Jev

Sorry, no luck on that download...:(
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Friday, March, 14, 2008 1:26 PM Sheila writes:

Hey VDad

Be right over! Thanks for the heads up! I appreciate your "shameless plug"...:)
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Friday, March, 14, 2008 2:03 PM BrianR writes:

Well, Sheila

That dodged the whole question I posed.

There was an interview with Ah-nuld in this morning's LA Daily News.

In it, the Governator was chiding the Sacramento Dems for not passing a budget, while at the same time saying it was a good thing to "close the tax loopholes" to try to fix our budget mess here in Leftifornia.

"Close the tax loopholes"? What does that mean, "loopholes"? They haven't figured out yet how to tax the air we breathe?

The "raise taxes" mantra is always exasperating coming from the Dems, but it's business as usual; it's their Bible.

But it's absolutely infuriating coming from someone who's a "Republican".

Yet it's EXACTLY the kind of thing we can expect from President McCain, another "post-partisan" who prides himself on being able to "reach across the aisle" to "get things done".

Elect McCain, and you can get to spend the next four years doing exactly what I do ALL THE TIME: curse about the jerk in the executive office.
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 12:45 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

I also don't agree with your assessment of Obama. I could be wrong, though! I'm certainly being surprised by Hillary's campaign. I guess that's to be expected when you got Rupert Murdoch on her side, maybe I shouldn't have been surprised.
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 12:45 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

I also don't agree with your assessment of Obama. I could be wrong, though! I'm certainly being surprised by Hillary's campaign. I guess that's to be expected when you got Rupert Murdoch on her side, maybe I shouldn't have been surprised.
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 12:58 AM Sheila writes:

Brian LOL

That would not be a good thing! I wouldn't want you cursing everyday for the next four years!

Well, I guess in my mind the biggest difference is that Mc will be a strong leader on the WOT...that is the number 1 difference between the three.

IMO, Hill or Ob would not only cause you to curse, but you may want to shoot yourself!...:)

Now that would be a very bad thing!
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 1:00 AM Sheila writes:

Btw, Brian

I clicked onto my name at your place just now to see if I could get here and it worked...whew! I thought I was locked out like Pep, never to get into my blog again!

That was WEIRD!
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 1:06 AM Sheila writes:

Stan

Well, I was pretty shocked to hear the things Ob's "pastor" has been saying...this is far leftwing moveon. type drivel.

It makes me wonder if that's where Ob's wife got the line about being proud of her country for the first time in "my adult life"...

How do you feel about his pastor's rants?

It makes me wonder if he Ob is a closet biggot...and a closet America hater...
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 1:09 AM Sheila writes:

And Stan...

I can't imagine anyone going to a church for 20 years and not knowing what his pastor's thoughts are about racial matters, America etc...it sounds like these rants are the central theme of his teachings...:(
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 1:26 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

Obama has declared publicly that he doesn't agree with his old pastor (he's retiring.)
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 11:45 AM BrianR writes:

Well, Sheila, LOL

I know the Iraq war's a defining issue for you, and we all set our own priorities.

Which is fine.

As I've written, I'm not trying to change your mind; I'm simply stating my own priorities, and why I'll vote the way I'm planning.
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 12:12 PM Sheila writes:

Hey Brian!

Well, I can't imagine either Hill or Ob in the WH...to me, that is a scary scenario...look at who associates with these people! Look at all the corruption that occured in the first Hill admin...yikes!

I'll take Mc over those two any day!

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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 12:14 PM Sheila writes:

And btw, Brian

I know you're not trying to convince me to change my mind...we are just having a discussion among friends...:)
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 12:33 PM BrianR writes:

Yup

Exactly.
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 3:31 PM jevica writes:

Shiela

The only way McCain is "better" than the other two is on the WOT that's it.

I don't believe this RINO McLiberal will be any different on other important issues then the Democrats would be.

When his other policies Immigration, Global Warming, Free Speech are in place and really mess up the country [BTW these are things the Democrats also want] it will give them cover. They can say see a Republican President did this. All his "reaching across the isle" will get us [conservatives] nothing.
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 5:11 PM Sheila writes:

Jev...

I have more faith in his love for the country, and his patriotism than you obviously do...:)

The conservatives who know him, seem to hold him in high regard, even knowing his shortcomings and not agreeing on everything.

He will have a very different cabinet and advisors than Hill or Ob who will have folks like the rev. who is in the blame America first crowd. This is the moveon leftism we face with Hill or Ob.

Granted it's a gamble with anyone that goes to the WH, and with the world in the shape it's in...who knows. My bet is on Mc.
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 6:01 PM jevica writes:

Shiela

I never said anything that I question his love of country or patriotism. It's his liberal politics that I question and don't like, except as I said his stance on the WOT.

McCain's ACU rating in 2006 was only 56 in 2006.

It's not much of a gamble because we know how he is on Taxes, Immigration, Free Speech, Global Warming and Judges.

You can hold him in regard as a person but he will be RINO as a president, he will make Bush 43, look like a real conservative.
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Saturday, March, 15, 2008 11:02 PM Scottie writes:

Sheila

I'd be a lot more favorably disposed to John McCain if his immigration advisor wasn't that greasy Juan Hernandez fellow that always makes my stomach churn when I see him on Fox news. Kinda like Geraldo only moreso.
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 12:35 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Al Franken

From this article @ http://rawstory.com/news/2008/SNL_insists_its_not_boosting _Clinton_0314.html -

> For his part, Obama's not worried about the perceived (Clinton) bias.

"Frankly, Barack Obama knows he's good enough, smart enough and, gosh darn it, he's won more states, more votes and more delegates, and that's what probably matters more anyway," Obama spokesman Bill Burton quipped to the LA Times, à la Stuart Smalley.

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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 1:58 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

My friend, would you prefer it if Obama was an athiest?
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 2:06 AM PDX Dave writes:

Ditto, Sheila

When I heard that Rush suggested interfering in the Democrats primary race in Texas, I was shocked.

I don't listen to Rush - never have except when someone else had it on. I don't like the man, evenif I agree with most of his politics. He's a pompous, narcissistic blow-hard.

The very idea of interfering in the other party's primary process is un-American. Let them choose who they will.
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 2:23 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

You've gotten a free pass on this

Shiela, so what about McCain't's 'proud to be endoresed by Hagge(sp?)' thing? Obviously by your standards, McCaint's not qualified to be President.
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 2:46 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Let me add to that question ...

Would you prefer it if he were a Muslim?
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 4:41 AM jevica writes:

PDX Dave

Except for Independents, and Democrats crossing over to vote in the Republican primary to "interfering in the other party's primary process" if you listened to Rush, or read his site you would have found out why he did what he did.

BTW if the state has a primary where you can vote for either party then they must not feel that it's "un-American." If the parties wanted they could have a closed primary.

So you agree with most of Rush's politics but "He's a pompous, narcissistic blow-hard." I don't listen as much as I used to when I was working, but what I do hear and did hear never supported what you say about him. Could you provide me some examples of how you arrive at that decision?
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 12:43 PM Sheila writes:

Jev

What I mean is, those on the far left blame America for everything...Mc is a patriot.

Rmember when Ob's wife said it was the first time in her adult life she was proud of America? Wonder where she got that...from her pastor maybe?...she has never had a time in here adult life when she has been proud of America...maybe since she has gone to the rev's church her whole adult life.

What I am saying, is I trust a man who has risked his life for the country and is a patriot before I would trust someone like Ob or Hill to be pres...
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 12:46 PM Sheila writes:

Scottie

Yeah, I'm not swo crazy about that guy either...but multiply him by 100% and that's who's on the Hill and Ob team, only worse.

I believe as I told Jev, a patriot in the WH sure beats a blame America first leftie.
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 12:54 PM Sheila writes:

Stan...:)

If Ob is a true believer he would reject the politics of hate being spewed from his pulpit.

His pastor fails to recall that white Americans shed their blood to free the slaves.

Slavery was evil, and continues to be evil where it is still practiced today, but blacks in America have liberty and the ability to reach whatever they want to achieve...compare that to Rawanda or other places in the world.

It's a disgrace to everything America stands for for a pastor to promote racism and hate for one's country from the pulpit. And Ob doesn't seem to mind.

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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 1:07 PM PDX Dave writes:

Jevica: Agree with Rush but Dislike him

Is it "required" that I like a person with whom I share a political point of view?

I simply don't like listening to Rush Limbaugh. It's painful. His personae (whether an affected radio character or really him) is disagreeable to me. You can accept that I feel that way, or you can reject me as a person for feeling that way... that is up to you... but I refuse to justify myself further on the matter by "citing examples."

On the Texas Primary, I don't believe for one minute that the open primary process was intended to allow or encourage one party interfering in the other party's choice of nominee. That is inherently dishonest. The open primary process is based on an honor system and the reality at the time that closed primaries were not viable because of the structures of the parties in the state.

I reject the notion that such a tactic is justified because "they did it first."

In the first place, the number of Democrats who threw away their vote in a tightly contested Hillary-Obama primary race MUST be so slim as to be statistically zero. So to say that OUR doing so is a counter to THEIR doing so is a false argument.

Dishonest is dishonest. Period.

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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 1:14 PM Sheila writes:

Hey PDX Dave...:)

Yup, why should we act like the left? Let them play that game. We don't have to. Thanks for the ditto!LOL
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 1:23 PM Sheila writes:

Jev

The purpose for the crossover vote (which I don't like btw, for this very reason: we are seeing the shinanigans going on) is to allow people to vote for someone of the other party they might feel is a better choice, not to try to monkey around and select the other party's nominee. This is precicely why the idea stinks, IMO.

As to indepencents and dems who voted Mc, believe it or not there are the Reagan democrats out there, and Independents who don't like Hill or Ob! That is no surprise! That is why Mc was thought to be the one who could beat the dems! LOL
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 1:32 PM Sheila writes:

Wow Dave!

Your answer to Jev is EXACTLY my thought on the matter of the crossover vote! Ditto! LOL

Also, I am with you on el rusbo...his shtick got old with me. He uses bad language, poor jokes, and is a general turn off to me, though I may agree with him on many issues, his manner is what I dislike, and finally could not take...

He was good when he was pointing out the falacies of socialism and the left's talking heads...that's when he is at his best.

Being GOP strategerist from behind the mike does not enhance his status, IMO.

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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 3:45 PM jevica writes:

PDX Dave, Shiela

I said nothing about you having to like Rush [like him or not I don't care], I just wanted you to back up your statement "He's a pompous, narcissistic blow-hard."

You seem to dislike listening to Rush therefore did you listen to why he wanted Republicans to vote for Hillary or his explanation of the same?

BTW an open primary is just that open you can vote for either party, your remark about honor system makes no sense. If you feel your candidate in you party will win then you can crossover and vote for what you feel is a weak candidate on the other side.

My point was Democrats and independents crossed over to vote for a Republican candidate, I don't believe I said "they did it first" in the way you made it sound. I can understand why Rush feels we should keep up discord on the Democrat side as long as possible. I didn't say doing it on our side was to counter their doing it, I said it was to continue to sow discord on their side.

Shiela;

Then have a closed primary. If there is an open primary process then it is to our advantage to use it to sow discord on the other side.

His job is to work behind a mike and inform people about politics and other issues. It seems that there are many on our side that now do not like Rush, Mark Levin, and others since they speak about how liberal McCain really is. If the Independents and Democrats thought McCain was so great then they should change their party and vote for him as Republicans.

Just realize that McCain is with you on one thing [I realize that is your defining issue] the WOT but on MOST all other items you're gonna get a reach over the isle, Kennedy, Hillary, Obama, RINO Republican

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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 8:15 PM Sheila writes:

Jev

What I got tired of was Rush's demeanor, bad language, sounding like he was the GOP boss, etc.

AS to the crossover vote, well, I don't like it as I've said.

Mc will be conservastive on many more issues than the WOT. Not Hill or Ob.
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 8:23 PM Sheila writes:

Hey everyone!

I have linked my #2 blog "Moments" to my blogroll!(I finally got it!)

So come on by, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

There is no link to my name, though...no way to do it...

I decided to do a totally different blog there. Hope you can come by.
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 10:47 PM jevica writes:

Sheila

I hope you are correct about "Mc will be conservative on many more issues than the WOT" though from what I have read and found out about him it's a wish or hope on the part of those that want to vote for McCain. BTW what do you believe are the many more issues McCain will be conservative on?

I like your outlook on things Sheila even though we disagree on some basic things. Your outlook on Rush and talk radio is your own, no matter what I say will convince you [it seems].
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 11:43 PM Sheila writes:

Jev...

You know...it's not that "I want to vote for Mc"...:)it's he's the last one standing. He will be better on spending, judges, National Security, healthcare, Social Security reform, to name a few...

As to Rush,I used to LOVE him...remember? LOL

I decided I like conservative talk shows with dignity...
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Sunday, March, 16, 2008 11:47 PM Sheila writes:

Btw, Jev...

I like that we can discuss our differences and still be friends as you say...we go back a long way...LOL

Btw, when did you come to TH? I can't remember exactly...:)
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 1:03 AM jevica writes:

Sheila

As I can see my first post was July 5, 2006.

Sandra was the first to comment at my blog.
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 1:19 AM Sheila writes:

Wow, Jev...

I didn't realize Sandra was the first to comment on your blog!

I hope she can get back to the blogs at some point...she is really busy. She has another class besides the college courses she teaches...
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 1:21 AM Sheila writes:

Btw, Jev...

Did you see Mc on Hannity tonight on Fox? It was interesting...
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 1:28 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

> ... those on the far left blame America for everything ...

Straw man. Attack the real left, you're missing your target.
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 1:30 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

> If Ob is a true believer he would reject the politics of hate being spewed from his pulpit.

He has. Attack the real Obama, you're missing your target.


OBAMA 08!!!!
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 1:31 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

PDX

> Is it "required" that I like a person with whom I share a political point of view?

It depends on if the political POV that you share with the person, is hate and fear.
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 1:40 AM Sheila writes:

Stan...:)

A true Obaniac!LOL

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Monday, March, 17, 2008 1:43 AM Sheila writes:

Btw Stan...

Is the far left pro-America? If the Rev is an example of the far left, I'd say "no".

What say you?...:)
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 2:34 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

> Is the far left pro-America?

Of course.


> If the Rev is an example of the far left, I'd say "no".

And if Barack is far-left (in disguise), that's for the better. IMHO Barack Obama is a moderate.


(signing off) Stan "Hussein" Rosenthal
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 2:55 AM jevica writes:

Sheila

About McCain and his record.

The Real McCain Record
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjUzOGY0ODA1YzBmNjFhOW E5NWU0OTY5NTZiOGNhOGQ=

Now is the time to sort things out. "John McCain will cause severe damage to the conservative movement and the Republican party . . ."
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzY0M2U3ZTExMGExM2Q4YT JhYzJkZDMzYzgwMDAzZmE=

Utter And Complete Nonsense: Revising The History Of The Gang of 14
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/4d9a78aa-0912-4ba3-bb 92-c95ea5cda539
"The Gang of 14 is short hand for why John McCain should not be the nominee of the GOP."

This is just a short list Taxes [against Bush tax cuts twice] is another, Free Speech [McCain/Feingold], Immigration [McCain/Kennedy-Immigration bill], Global Warming [McCain/Lieberman], against drilling in ANWAR
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 10:51 AM Sheila writes:

Stan

If Ob is a moderate, Hill is a conservative...
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 11:07 AM Sheila writes:

Jev...

I've read all the articles on Mc.

He's the last man standing...if you want the far left running things, let Ob or Hill get in the WH. On the issues I mentioned above plus his pro-life stand, he's the best choice.

As to him hurting the conservative movement...I really don't think it'll happen.

What hurt conservatism was conservative voters throwing good conservatives out the last election. It will be hard to get back a majority.

We gave the dems the opportunity to be in power again another 40 years...we set ourselves back...look at the damage they did to the country the last time they held power for that long, and now we're seeing Pelosi and Reid doing what the dems do best...set the country up for complete disaster. Universal health, high taxes, no national defense, open borders, abortion...on and on.

I will take Mc any day over those demsocialists...:)

Did you see Mc on Hannity?
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 9:29 PM jevica writes:

Sheila

McCain is liberal on most items except the WOT.

Why is always [it seems] ready to cross the aisle to join with moderates and Democrats on bills etc, and not join with conservatives [including the base of his party?
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Monday, March, 17, 2008 11:44 PM Sheila writes:

Jev

I heard Mc today from Faluja talking with Hughe...he sounded good.

If Hughe likes what he hears, that's pretty good.
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Tuesday, March, 18, 2008 12:25 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sheila

> If Ob is a moderate, Hill is a conservative...

She certainly is campaigning like one. Like she somehow got Rove's playbook.
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Tuesday, March, 18, 2008 12:28 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

McCain't is a Conservative.

Ya'll aren't fooling me. For instance, he's pro-war. Liberals are pro-peace, as opposed to being pro-war. Certainly liberals agree that war is necessary on occasion, but just like abortion, those occasions should be rare.

And if that sounded like a plug for a Clinton, it wasn't. It was a piece of truth.
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Sunday, March, 23, 2008 2:53 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Hey,

Just because Reck (Reck's Blog) asked me to leave his blog, doesn't mean that this blog should die.

So, please post something new Sheila?
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Sunday, March, 23, 2008 3:16 AM ShiningCity writes:

Rush crush

It just occurred to me that these last couple blogs sound very similar to the tone which my daughter takes to adamantly state that she does NOT like a certain boy, whom the rest of us know she is totally ga-ga over.

I'm just wondering if you're a woman scorned or something? You seem preoccupied with Limbaugh.

I wouldn't blame you. I think he's amazing and too sexy for his shirt. But that's just me.

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Sunday, March, 23, 2008 5:00 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Re: Rush crush

Shining, I never knew that oxy-contin pills were colored orange. Learn something new everyday!!!! ;-)
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Sunday, March, 23, 2008 3:27 PM Sheila writes:

He Stan!

OK...a new post it is!LOL


Just did a new one here and at "Moments"...I've linked Moments here on my blog roll...
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Sunday, March, 23, 2008 3:30 PM Sheila writes:

ShinningCity!LOL

You're cracking me up! "A woman scorned"...how about "a woman turned off"?...:)

Btw, check out my new blog "Moments"...not on politics...

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Sunday, March, 23, 2008 8:21 PM goblue writes:

We are conservatives on an island

at Townhall. Almost all those guys are so flummoxed over McCain's mistakes in the past, that they are anxious to have us all suffer under a dem regime. Too much damage will be done. I am not ready to commit suicide yet, but McCain does have to show me a willingness to work with us moderate conservatives. I want to see his VP before I commit.He's good on spending and tied with Bush as horrible on immigration. I don't know. My feeling is that Reagan wasn't elected because he was a conservative. Hewas an attractive candidate regardless. We needed him more than he needed us. There is nobody now to carry the shield on conservatism that is electable. And I doubt there will be in the near future. The repub congress was atrocious. Maybe a governor can rise up.

Anyway, I enjoy your blog. You have a way of ginning up interest. Because you are friendly and open I think.
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Monday, March, 24, 2008 12:15 AM Sheila writes:

Goblue

We wound up with one man standing...not perfect, but IMO a way better choice than OB or Hill...

We'll have to see who appears next time around!

Thanks for the kind words!
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