Reality 201

Can you explain how you derive this conclusion? I understand that it is non-biblical, although you make a biblical reference in the statement.

As for number 5, I agree with TANSTAAFL however I am trying to understand how you change capitalism into socialism in the statement. Can you explain this also?

I love the concept of the Big Bang, though the Biblical Creation should encompass some of the same.

According to Big Bang all that is present in the universe was created instantly. So, at the level of basic existence everything in the world is exactly the same age. Just appearance is different. And, everything has evolved together.

The interesting question from the Biblical perspective, I think, is why did God make quarks the building blocks of everything in the universe. Whether from the big bang or from God everything now is quarks.

#5.It's a moral question, but you can have different morals from me. I'm sure you are familiar with "externalities" in economics. Capitalism is rife with externalities. If you think that the winners in capitalism truly are separate from the rest of creation, OK. But, if you understand that we have all evolved together - though with different consequences - you willl understand it is not written in stone or that capitalism is not the eleventh commandment, you will understand that morally we need to make adjustments in the distribution of income and wealth. The fact is that the costs of capitalism are borne unevenly.

Woke up this morning thinking about your question and here is an expanded explantion. It has to do with the unfolding and causes of history.

Now, either everything is preordained because of the beginning state of things or from God's will or everything is not ordained and there is capriciousness in history or luck or surprises: history may turn on one thing tilting one way instead of another, but was not preordained to do so.

Capitalism is an occurrence in history which I presume is not preordained, certainly in its particulars. Capitalism could conceivably disappear from history in the future.

I read once that George Will is somewhat more sympathetic to the Welfare State because he has a brother with, I think, Downs Syndrome, who has received benefits from the Welfare State.

I have a 37 year old son who is bi-polar. He never asked to be bi-polar. From a personal perspective that's just bad luck and the personal cost to us of trying to help him is not something that is our "just deserts" because of our character in the context of capitalism.

I think that conservatives may be able to see that capitalism is a result of history, but you tend to deny that the Welfare State is also the result of history. I think that the majority of human beings realize that history delivers uneven benefits and costs to individuals and from a moral standpoint we feel that we don't have to passively accept history but can try to do something about it, and that includes blending capitalism with socialism in order to even out the luck of the draw. It's a moral thing.

i see communism persists

you are an uneducated moron but in the interest of humanity and your child who has a problemb there are very good molecular regenerative med answers to your kids prob that would give him a normal and good life even if it comes from someone like me a capitalist ivy league fascist you despise. answers like this that cost money and have to work eg.the capitalist system or you dont succeed.When people pay cash and get the results they need and want it prooves private sector non socialist capitalitism works with a 90% sucess rate at least in dealing with a fairly non complex issue like bi-polar

just to clarify something-this country was formed on the idea of individual proprety rights and individual freedoms do whatevev you want dont hurt anyone else. If someone has the ability to help others with excellent success he has the right to prosper-we are an individual not collective society

Do you read Carlos Castaneda? Do you let cockroaches share your living space since they are just as important as you are?

Well, DUH!!!! But if they threaten to attack my country (or any other innocent group) and keep uttering death threats, I'm gonna take action to protect my land and freedoms. I don't care what anyone does as long as they also respect others' rights to freedom and life.

Yeah, I should hope each generation improves upon the previous one. This does not mean we should disrespect the elderly and make 7-year-olds our rulers, though.

I'm not sure what you mean about hormones (sex drive?), but yes, experience can make a huge difference. But even then, a person needs wisdom.

Sure, this all sounds nice (although the word "collective" makes me nervous). What do you imply here?

Don't we all benefit when we each work to better ourselves? Your 'equal share' comment worries me, though. This should not mean that a lazy bum who sits around smoking weed all day should get a cut from my paycheck just because he is a fellow human being. (BTW, according to #1, shouldn't all the bugs and animals also get a cut? Trees, too.)

(See story of The Little Red Hen for reference.)

So you think life is all about equal results? Where does that concept come from, if not from Socialism/Communism?

Good people will share and be generous with those around them, with those they have the means to help. Good people are all over the place. The institution of the family is about this type of sharing. Churches and communities often voluntarily give and make up the difference when someone has difficulties. I think that's great.

FORCED equal outcomes (i.e. through govt redistribution of income, por ejemplo) have not yet worked as a social experiment in this world. It tends to make everyone equal in poverty. I'd love for everyone to live in mansions and have it all, but until Christ reigns on earth, I don't think we will be in Utopia.

Have you read Atlas Shrugged? When equal outcomes are guaranteed to all citizens, most people will get lazy and do nothing. Then everything goes to Hell.