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irtexas
MURDER IS MURDER #3
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 10:26 AM
Nee
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And, gee
let me guess? were they immigrants? From a ME Country? oh, yer makin' the blood boil!!
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 11:05 AM
BrianR
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Well
What can one say?
Let's let 'em all in the country, and they can bring their wonderful "cultures" with them.
I'm sure it'll really spruce up the place.
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 11:32 AM
Ralph Ellison
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So...
I wasn't gong to respond to you at first. But here we go.
"But Mr. Ellison your comment that no other ethic group of people have been brought to here to be slaves"
I never said that. Please correct me if I am wrong.
"I have a friend in DC and if you ever walked up to him and called him an African American he would deck you. He always says that he is an American and was born here not in Africa"
Interesting.I live in DC too. Does he live in NE,NW,SE,SW?? Sorry your friend feels that way. If you were to call me a Black American, I would probably deck you too. Black is a color. I am not the color black. I identify myself as African American because it honors my African ancestry. Why the big deal?
"But as long as you listen to Farakkon(sp,don't feel the need to spell it right), Sharpton and Jackson no one is going anywhere but to deliver them money."
Who said I listen to Farrakhan???
" know and have a lot of Black friends and people like you and them that want to keep beating on the soap box they are not fond of. Get over it, grow up and get a life."
I have friends who would call you ignorant and senile. I have a life. I am grown up. I should get over what? Slavery? Jim Crow? Why? That is American history.
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 11:35 AM
Ralph Ellison
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Also..
"If you want to be an African then we can help you pack. Oh, that's right you said Cananda didn't you? I think that's the wrong direction."
Huh??? Do you even read my comments before attacking me?
"You live here, sure keep your heritage as I do and never forget it but do it in away that your children will be proud of. Don't keep starting each new generation down the same old path."
I have a daughter. It is my responsibility to her to explain why someone uses the n-word to describe her, why some people will judge her only on her skin color, and why racism still exists. Not doing so is to leave her unprepared for a world that is cold, harsh, and unjust. It is my responsibility to prepare my daughter for all that life will throw at her. That is my job. I don't take it lightly. No one should.
"Ralphie, Ralphie you seem to be slipping and reverting back to street language. Take a deep breath and hold it."
Why is it "street language"? Do you agree with what anti-socialist said? How am I wrong to call him out for what he is?
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 11:51 AM
Gunny "knuckles" G©
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BrianR
That's why we call em, Third World Savages.
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 11:52 AM
Gunny "knuckles" G©
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irtexas
That's why we call em Third World Savages
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 12:14 PM
YLG
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irtexas
Great!! They tried it here!!
Let the manhunt begin.... I'll wager my new Bersa that he'll try for the border. He's probably going through 281, or I-20. These are desolate enough. Even money he's going to either El Paso, or Del Rio. If he's going through I-20, maybe they'll get him in Big Spring.
I hope the b*st*rd meets with a slow agonizing death in the middle of nowhere, with only coyotes and vultures for company....
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 1:55 PM
irtexas
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#3
This is the discription that Irving PD put out according to My Fox DFW,
Said is described as being 6 feet two inches tall with black hair and brown eyes, weighing approximately 180 pounds.
He was last seen wearing a black turtleneck shirt/sweater, a brown coat and tan pants. He is believed to be armed with a handgun.
Anyone with information is asked to contact Irving police. People are warned not to approach or try to apprehend the suspect.
So wait for him to walk up to your castle, blow him away then drag him in to your yard.
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 2:09 PM
irtexas
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Ralphie
Ralphie,
I don't have time to debate you right now but I will get back at a later date. Hang in there.
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 2:59 PM
irtexas
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#3
Said is from Egypt.
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 3:05 PM
SquiddyPopPerkyJean
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So it DID
happen in Texas! I really hope they catch him.
And how did the comments veer into talking about African-Americans or blacks or whatever each particular person wants to be called?
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 4:27 PM
irtexas
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#3
Squiddy,
That's just Ralphie just ignore him. I'll debate him later. He's one of these people that troll around and rants. Not relevant to this subject. You would think now that the Skins have won he would calm down. I guess not.
Back to the guy in Texas, I can only hope he goes in to someone's yard and starts his holier than thou crap. That is unless he faces one of the SWAT teams down there. Texas is not where he wants to be after doing what he did. Like I said for you make believe your reading a comic book, no up sets. I'm sure I will hear from my brother tonight when he get in. I'll see what he has to say. He is not a big fan of these people to begin with. He has to deal with them everyday.
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 11:08 PM
Scottie
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Tex
Awhile back I wrote a piece called "Wither the Bulldog" as suggested response to these thugs over in Britian. Maybe we need to do some speachifying of our own over here.
http://heartlandpatriot.townhall.com/g/7fe73096-fe4b-401f-9 81e-76635b0043c3
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Thursday, January, 03, 2008 11:12 PM
Scottie
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Hey Tex
You should get a sitecounter for this little hole in the wall. It's free. Let me know if you need help getting it set-up.
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 12:16 AM
irtexas
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#3
Scottie,
I read your post and it right on. I left you a comment there too. This kind of crap drives me nuts. I think we have enough low life's running around so we really don't need these. I still after all these years do not understand how male persons can have no respect for anyone but themselves and that's only a guess that they respect themselves. #2 was a dajvu moment for me. Except the mother and kids had a good dog that woke them up and were just running out of the house when we got there in their nightclothes. Father fully dressed nice and warm, standing on the lawn watching.
Well enough of that or the red haze will be back.
Thanks, I'll let you know when my head clears up and ask for your help.
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 3:07 AM
Purplegimp
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Um
Er, and they want to pass a law against spaning in the Commonwealth in Taxachussetts? Maybe they'll amend it to exempt honor killings?
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 4:12 AM
Purplegimp
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Ooops
That should be spanking. Big oops.
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 7:32 AM
Edamon50
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irtexas
So it was Ralph Ellison that you were talking about! Ralph and I have had several debates over different issues, ans even though we often disagree he is usually not disagreeable with me. But like most liberals, and many liberal blacks he tends to see the world as a harsh place that is so racially biased that he is always looking for the latent racism in everyone...especially conservatives. But in general, if you debate him and avoid fussing, he is generally willing to engage in debate.
As for the African American tag, I had a post up quite some time ago at my blog about it, and I have no problem with the tag. As a matter of fact, I often call myself an African American since I don't think it conveys any sense of my not being an American. As I stated in my post, we seem to have no problem with labels like Italian American or Japanese American, so there shouldn't be any problem with African American. What you call yourself doesn't matter, how you conduct yourself does.
Finally, it seems that the stories you have highlighted here are the unintended consequences of multiculturalism. How can the multi-cultis condemn these types of actions, when it is their insistence that new comers to America RESIST assimilation/acculturation and cling to their home cultures?
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 8:47 AM
Darvin Dowdy
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We need to go back...
...to a speedy trial and off to the gallows when these evil murderers are caught. Its really getting out of control. DD
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 10:49 AM
BrianR
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YLG: New Bersa?
Me, too, last month. What'd you get, the Thunder .380?
That is one fun little gun!
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 11:00 AM
Ralph Ellison
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irtexas
Seems as if you lack a level of respect for myself or the idea of an constructive debate. From your trolling around posting disparaging comments about myself, I have to ask why? Seems as if you are the one who enjoys ranting indeed.
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 11:38 AM
philosophocon
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You have to love how this
illustrates the pecking order for their various constituencies, namely that multiculralism currently trumps feminism. You won't hear a peep about violence against women when they get murdered by their own families either there or here as a direct result of their culture (how can honour killings be viewed as anything else as cultural).
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 11:43 AM
philosophocon
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You have to love how this
illustrates the pecking order for their various constituencies, namely that multiculralism currently trumps feminism. You won't hear a peep about violence against women when they get murdered by their own families either there or here as a direct result of their culture (how can honour killings be viewed as anything else as cultural).
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 11:45 AM
philosophocon
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You have to love how this
illustrates the pecking order for their various constituencies, namely that multiculralism currently trumps feminism. You won't hear a peep about violence against women when they get murdered by their own families either there or here as a direct result of their culture (how can honour killings be viewed as anything else as cultural).
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Friday, January, 04, 2008 9:04 PM
philosophocon
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Sorry for the triple post,
I got three error messages, you got three posts.
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 4:47 AM
irtexas
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Ralph#1
Let's just clear the air here I do not troll around looking for you. First I saw you was on Mrs. Paddy's site. I don't have time or patience for looking for people on the internet unless it's finding someone that I'm looking for and that results in money.
I have just spent sometime reading your site and going over Mrs. Paddy's and Flagwaver's. I guessed I missed you on Gunny's site.
I am not trying to insult you. I was trying to tell you something. Until the whole misconseptions regarding any wrongs can be discussed and ironed out by rashional people, until then nothing will change. You know as well as I do as time goes by stories change. That was why I said everyone needs to stop starting every new generation down the hate path. Nothing will change until that happens. Learning, teaching and enlighting is the main things that will eventually win out. Like I said if each generation is only taught to hate and feel sorry for themselves by the wrongs of 200 + years ago nothing will change. The best we can do for our children is to make sure they know the truth. The real facts not what the hate mongers of today like to keep stirring up. Those people are all failures and frauds so they have to keep the anger going to validate themselves. They are the people that our children should not be exposed to. If anyone's children hear these fools and ask about what they said, please stop and educate them with true facts not hate spew. You did not mention Farrakhan I threw him in with the other two.
I don't understand where my friend lives is important. That you will have to explain to me. I must have got lost there.
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 5:47 AM
irtexas
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Ralph #2
Websters, racism: Animosity shown to peoples of different races.
I guess we could all say at this place in time some of us are racist as far and the terrorist's are concerned. I know I am an I know where I want them to go. If you wanted to put it in that context. I dont' think that will go away soon. Thank goodness for now at least the idiots on the hill have not followed England's lead and removed all of the written words from all of their books on the Crusades and the Holocost so the muslims won't be insulted. We still have our books and some great web sites to go to for information on everything.
I don't care if you are red, yellow, black. white, green or blue I don't pick my friends by what color they are. I pick my friends on just liking them, respecting them and enjoy being with them. I am not rude to someone I don't feel I need to know any better because if they want to be a D/A fine but I don't have to be around them, my choice.
My Dad always taught me that no one will ever be better than you, they maybe and equal but never better. I taught my daughters the samething. I think I got that talk the first time after the German civics teacher insident. I think that he thought that we wouldn't run in to that. Living in a protected miliary life group that was the first for all of us. As 7th graders it was a wake up call.
I don't feel it's worth the waste of energy or having to have something eating at you all of the time to bog down with it. It doesn't help anyone and will make for more hate. That is way I said that you should make sure to teach your daughter about her heritage so she knows the truth and can be proud of it and keep it with her to pass on to her children. Not the gutter garbage that the hate mongers like to put out to keep the pot stirred up.
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 6:28 AM
irtexas
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Ralph#3
I have a God son and a God daughter both African American. I have always given them things that I can relay the stories that go with them so they will know about where their ancestors came from. Worked out pretty well until Play Station came along. So now they still get the old stuff and a new one too, I also have a friend in Texas that we grew up together and in the 1st grand we had these little Oriental girls that were twins and they got a lot of attention. So we became twins. The teacher almost had a cow. Called the parents. Parents, what's your problem? Teacher said it wasn't right. Parents said none of your business. They were identical and so were we. We couldn't understand how they could tell us apart and not them. It took us a while. Slow learners I guess. But we are still sisters. That said, on ward and up ward. There is no option to go backwards.
Ralph, no one is trying to argue with you. But like I said until rational minds come togeather and fight to make the changes to make sure our families know the right way to make up their own minds and understand that they have the power to do these things. I don't need the big G to telling me how to change a light bulb. I don't want their cradle to grave plans. If your daughter ask a question about something she heard on TV or somewhere else and it's wrong stop right there and explain the truth. Don't let it slip by.
We can't do anything now about what happened over 200 years ago we can only make a diffence now. Let go of some of the anger and believe me it will feel good. Please stop by and chat anytime join in. But there are no I's in FREEDOM. It has to be all togeather or we have lost. I'm not a good loser. Have a great weekend with your daughter and stay safe.
PS: Spelling and missed key strokes don't here.
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 6:47 AM
davecatbone
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Diversity
The virtue of diversity is a myth. We should have the freedom to associate and live near whomever we choose. As long as we're all Americans.
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 7:19 AM
irtexas
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Diversity
Dave,
I agree.
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 8:49 AM
anti-socialist
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irtexas
An anti-constitutionalist (Communist, Nazi, or Islamo-fascist) will falsely accuse a constitutionalist of a different race as being racist - an excuse that anti-constitutionalists use to justify the great hate they have for constitutionalists.
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 8:57 AM
-Kilroy
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Middle East-Side Story
(a Kilroy blast from the past)
Sharia, Sharia, Sharia, Sharia …
Sharia,
We just got a law named Sharia
And suddenly, mister
I'm allowed to kill my sister
You see.
Sharia,
You can’t bare your knee in Sharia
Lest you be led to slaughter
Like my neighbor did his daughter
Last week.
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 8:59 AM
-Kilroy
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Look, up in the sky
it's a bird?
it's a plane?
no, it's davecatbone!!!
ding dong the hiatus is (officially) dead
w/b Dave
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 11:19 AM
irtexas
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Working togeather
anti-socialist, Kilroy, Nee, BrianR, SPPJ, Dave, Flame, Darvin, Scottie, Gunny, YLG, PG, Flagwaver, Phil-o, and any one I may have forgot to mention.
Thanks to all of you guys for all of the comments. I just think that if we don't keep fighting we're dead in the water. Thank goodness for the blogs. How many years did we all sit and cuss at our TV's and not be able to do a thing. At least now we have a weapon. The only thing is if the dimwits get in they will hand it over to the incompete UN. So they can keep kissing every commie/muslim butt they can. Between trying to shut the talks shows down and the internet it will be a big, long fight.
But as far as the main topic we can not let the SOB's get away with it. Not here. I will continue to put everyone of them up. As I have said I have been dealing with these sorry SOB's for 33 years as of Christmas. And they just keep coming. All of the dead wood congress and judges need to go. And a couple of X presidents.
Thanks again.
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Saturday, January, 05, 2008 1:36 PM
irtexas
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Knuckle Dragger
The mother left the home on Christmas in fear of her life. There is a $10.000 reward out for the knuckle dragger. This jerk should have stayed in Egypt and just sent his family here.
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Sunday, January, 06, 2008 10:23 AM
BrianR
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Re your "working together" comment
Absolutely right. Well said.
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Monday, January, 07, 2008 3:20 PM
irtexas
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#3
BrianR,
Thank you. I just found out that the little corner store I go to cigs and what ever I don't want to start the car for were Pakistani's and ICE was on their tails. They have been there for about 6 months. But I have noticed that these little stores change owners a lot. The man that bought this one is from India and he said they will just disappsear and set up some where else. Good to know. They were 2 nice family's. But the new owners said it happens all the time. But I noticed around here that it happens a lot.
But trying to explain to Ralph that nothing will change until everyone puts every thing in perspective about what happen 200+ years ago is not going anywhere but down.
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Tuesday, January, 08, 2008 12:46 AM
Georgetwin
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IrTexas
A Labor of Love Available at My Blog.
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Tuesday, January, 08, 2008 2:31 PM
Ralph Ellison
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irtexas
I actually forgot about our convo until I went over to Gunny’s site. You allegedly sent out a olive branch for me. Yet, you felt the urge to attack me ONCE AGAIN. Why? You aren’t a happy person are you?
Anyway, here we go.
“I am not trying to insult you.”
Really? I highly doubt that,
“Until the whole misconseptions regarding any wrongs can be discussed and ironed out by rashional people, until then nothing will change. You know as well as I do as time goes by stories change. That was why I said everyone needs to stop starting every new generation down the hate path. Nothing will change until that happens. Learning, teaching and enlighting is the main things that will eventually win out.”
I agree. Stories do change. People, especially Americans, get amnesia. As for hate path, hate is taught. I wasn’t taught to hate anyone (except homosexuals by my former evangelical church). What I was taught though is to recognize truth, reality, and its inseparable relationship to history.
“Like I said if each generation is only taught to hate and feel sorry for themselves by the wrongs of 200 + years ago nothing will change.“
Who ever said feel sorry for themselves? As for wrongs, they didn’t just end 200 years ago. Are you alluding to slavery though? Your timeline is actually incorrect. Also, do you not count the 100 years of government sanctioned apartheid also? How about the wrongs of today?
“The best we can do for our children is to make sure they know the truth.”
I agree. Truth/Information is power.
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Tuesday, January, 08, 2008 2:33 PM
Ralph Ellison
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irtexas pt.2
“ The real facts not what the hate mongers of today like to keep stirring up. Those people are all failures and frauds so they have to keep the anger going to validate themselves. They are the people that our children should not be exposed to. If anyone's children hear these fools and ask about what they said, please stop and educate them with true facts not hate spew. You did not mention Farrakhan I threw him in with the other two.”
So you mean Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson right? Do you believe that everything they do/say/involve themselves with is a lie and harmful? Where they wrong going after the NYPD on numerous occasions for police misconduct and murder? What about their campaigns of the past such as Operation Breadbasket? Do we not glean positives from their respective life stories filled with the echoing themes of self empowerment and reliance on faith and education? Do we not teach children about how serious the death threats/attempted murder, they still fought for what they believe in? Do we not tell our GLBT children that they spoke out for their rights even when it was unpopular???
Also, do you have a bias toward Islam, its followers, or what? Just curious???
“I don't care if you are red, yellow, black. white, green or blue I don't pick my friends by what color they are. I pick my friends on just liking them, respecting them and enjoy being with them. I am not rude to someone I don't feel I need to know any better because if they want to be a D/A fine but I don't have to be around them, my choice.”
Good for you. I don’t choose friends based on color either. I wish we could choose some of our family members though. LOL!!!
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Tuesday, January, 08, 2008 2:38 PM
Ralph Ellison
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irtexas pt3
“I don't feel it's worth the waste of energy or having to have something eating at you all of the time to bog down with it. It doesn't help anyone and will make for more hate.”
Quite the contrary, it doesn’t bog me down. I have not developed a hatred toward “white” people either. I just like truth based on fact and reality and sometimes it hurts. Racial inequality still exists and needs to be addressed. Racial profiling still runs rampant and needs to be addressed. This is not hate, it is truth. To sit by and do nothing is to deny the message of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to do unto the least of these.
As for the pot being stirred, sometimes it needs to be in order to complete the meal.
Your stories are great also. Props to you.
“Ralph, no one is trying to argue with you. But like I said until rational minds come togeather and fight to make the changes to make sure our families know the right way to make up their own minds and understand that they have the power to do these things. I don't need the big G to telling me how to change a light bulb. I don't want their cradle to grave plans”
I agree toward rational minds. I disagree however with the conservative approach. I believe it is limited and ineffective.
“If your daughter ask a question about something she heard on TV or somewhere else and it's wrong stop right there and explain the truth. Don't let it slip by”
I do. Whenever we see folks trying to co-opt God to justify war, savage individualism, and growing poverty, I am sure to give her the truth. The story of Dives is a favorite.
“We can't do anything now about what happened over 200 years ago we can only make a diffence now.”
Your right. Yet, IMO, Conservatives deny the fact that there is poverty and inequality and instead embrace a reality based on ignorance and a heavy dose of Horatio Alger mixed with Milton Freedman.
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Tuesday, January, 08, 2008 2:42 PM
Ralph Ellison
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irtexas pt.4
“Let go of some of the anger and believe me it will feel good.”
I’m far from angry. Actually, I suggest you take up your own advice.
“Please stop by and chat anytime join in.”
I will. Just recognize that I am a proud liberal and will never embrace your party nor most of your convictions. Plus, I am a Redskins fan for life. If we beat you again like we have 3 out of the last 4 times, I will gloat.
“But there are no I's in FREEDOM. It has to be all togeather or we have lost.”
I agree. Just remember to love America as well as Americans. You have a good week.
PS: This Joe Gibbs story is HUUUUUUGGGGEEE right now in DC.
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Wednesday, January, 09, 2008 5:19 AM
Peppermint2
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If these murders
were an honor killing, where is the "honorable" man who murdered? Disgusting!
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Friday, January, 11, 2008 3:03 AM
irtexas
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Ralph
Ralph,
I have read all of your comments from different sites. I have noticed that you don't like to answer the questions that are ask of you. You seem to just want to pick apart everyone else's comments. I'm not sure which you are madder about your current soap box or the Skins.
At this time I am not up to keep reading your screen after screen of the same subject that we can not change now. No one suggested that you become a conservative. I think the main point is move in to this century. Lets all work togeather to change things to make a better world for all of our children so they don't have to live with the with the old nonsense and make it a better place for them and their children and so on.
So I have decided that until you get a new soap box you are uninvited to my blog site. At least bring something that has a chance of being fixed. Something that can be talked about and hopefully make some changes that are positive that are going to make a difference.
I do not plan on answering any more of your posts until I see something that is reasonable.
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Friday, January, 11, 2008 3:11 AM
irtexas
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Make a difference
Ralph,
If you live in DC the House of Ruth is a good place to expend some energy. You might widen your options to see different things in life.
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Sunday, January, 13, 2008 4:29 PM
Keys to the Right
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Irtex
This piece of **** is probably back in his home country of Egypt by now where the U.S. authorities won't be able to extridite him because over there that kind of killing is "business as usual." I also heard that this thugs son told him where the girls where and he told reporter that the killings "had nothing to do with religion." Yeah right, this kid is an accomplice to murder as far as I'm concerned.
Oh yeah, shameless plug time!
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Sunday, January, 13, 2008 9:04 PM
irtexas
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#3
Keys,
Enroute as soom as I can through these error screens.
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Monday, January, 14, 2008 1:47 PM
Ralph Ellison
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irtexas
"I have read all of your comments from different sites. "
Stalker???
"I have noticed that you don't like to answer the questions that are ask of you."
Provide examples please. I have answered all of your questions. Perhaps you don't like my answers...
"You seem to just want to pick apart everyone else's comments."
You are correct sir.
"At this time I am not up to keep reading your screen after screen of the same subject that we can not change now."
Really? Why not read my RESPONSE to you???
"Lets all work togeather to change things to make a better world for all of our children so they don't have to live with the with the old nonsense and make it a better place for them and their children and so on"
I agree. I doubt, however, that you want actually WANT to MAKE CHANGE for ALL.
"So I have decided that until you get a new soap box you are uninvited to my blog site"
I'm crushed.
"At least bring something that has a chance of being fixed."
Can I bring my old radio??
" Something that can be talked about and hopefully make some changes that are positive that are going to make a difference"
By your rantings, what exactly are YOU changing? What are YOU Getting done????
"I do not plan on answering any more of your posts until I see something that is reasonable."
Thanks Grandpa. Let's see you stop attacking Muslims and calling distinguished Americans "traitors". Exactly who the hell do you think you are???
"If you live in DC the House of Ruth is a good place to expend some energy. You might widen your options to see different things in life."
I do. I have volunteered at the House of Ruth before. Bet you don't know it is NOT the same as the anti-abortion places that have the same name. Sorry. May I suggest you get out more and take some Aricept!!!
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Sunday, September, 07, 2008 5:50 PM
Darvin Dowdy
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howdy!
...been a while. how's it going? got a couple of new blog postings. Corn Ethanol and a msg to McCain. If you have time. Later. DD
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