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Comment on: What's Right

An Open Letter to the SCDS

56 Comments
Saturday, September, 20, 2008 7:28 PM Bobbie writes:

I don't want to wait till 2010

for a victory. Obama could do us a world of hurt by then; i.e. appoint another liberal activist SC Judge. I will hang in here till the winner is announced sometime in the wee hours of Nov. 5th. (hopefully without a recount). I am an optomist, especially where our country is concerned. I just can't bring myself to believe that our good ole' USA citizens would betray our fighting men and women and put this inexperienced socialist narcicist in the whitehouse; not to mention his bitter half. I pray every single day that God will deliver us from this spawn of Satan.(I don't like Obama. Can you tell)?

Great post bdubya. Thanks for stopping by my place.
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Saturday, September, 20, 2008 9:34 PM sgt.stryker writes:

Bobbie

you are right...this is no time to be giving anything away, especially to Nobama the communist organizer.
Thank you for dropping by.
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Saturday, September, 20, 2008 9:55 PM davecatbone writes:

bdubya

you may find the issue isn't victory. It's that some believe their is no difference between Obama and McCain. Just the party affiliation letter after their name. Those who don't feel that way are the nose holders that lack principle. I don't share that view and choose to believe there is a chance with McCain. So let the rain begin.
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Saturday, September, 20, 2008 10:11 PM Chad writes:

bdubya

Excellent post sir! I have my differencees with McCain, but his picking Palin made me feel much more at ease. I am for now on board but tepid, you know? I just don't know what an Obama presidentcy would - or would not be able to do. My bigest concner,though , and likely the concern of many here at TH is SCOTUS. But, even if Obama wins and gets to appoitn some Justices, they've already decided the 2nd Amendment and I will have my 1911 with me. If they want it...
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 9:12 AM sgt.stryker writes:

davecatbone

I understand, and I agree to a point...Mac was not my first or second choice, and he certainly isn't doing much to ingratiate himself to the true right wing. But I KNOW for certain what Barry wants to do, and I know I am not for any of it. If Mac is marginally better, than so be it..
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 9:14 AM sgt.stryker writes:

Chad

Amen brother...locked and loaded. I'm definitely not happy, but I'll play for now.
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 10:30 AM davecatbone writes:

That's the point bdubya

It's being a realist, not an idealist in politics. Waiting for the perfect candidate leaves you on the sidelines. I don't advocate all of McCain's ideas, nor Bush's, nor Reagan's nor any supposedly perfect conservative candidate of the past. But when we decide who we're going to vote for, if we are lukewarm about them winning, we might as well give up. I'm not that kind.
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 12:22 PM sgt.stryker writes:

Davecatbone

Perfect candidate? Good luck waiting for that. NOT GONNA HAPPEN, ever. The country needs to be governed from the middle, not from the idealogical edges. Barry is definitely that, Mac much less so, and I'm ok with that.
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 1:16 PM bob's my uncle writes:

Excellent post, sir!

I have been cogitating a similar address. Great, you have saved me the trouble. I like those guys over at the SCDS and truly do agree with a lot of what they have to say. I am kinda tired, though, of being called a "nose holder" and other such names. I have to agree with your characterization of the political field as it is currently striped. Given what has happened to the markets last week and what is being cooked up by the Administration and Congress this weekend, it appears that limited, Constitutional government is slipping away. Who will hold on the remnants of what we have? Certainly not Obama.
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 1:18 PM Chuck writes:

There's no comparison

Good read. I don't buy this notion that McCain is the same as Obama. McCain was not my first, or second, choice but he is a far better choice than the Obamination. With that said, Palin also gives us another reason to vote for McCain. First just because he picked her but also what about this scenario:

It is likely McCain, because of his age, is a one-termer. He wins, he gets what he wants and I think he will be happy with one term. That leaves Palin time to get on her feet nationally and gain valuable experience. This sets her up for a run in 2012 against Hillary as the likley candidate. I think unless McCain completely tanks or Palin blows it over the next four years, both unlikely, Palin is the lilely winner of a contest against the also likley candidate Hillary and we have a young conservative in the White House. We really could be looking at owning the WH for the 8 - 20 years with this one election. If we don't blow it and get mad, take our toys home, and refuse to play.
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 2:35 PM davecatbone writes:

bdubya

from the middle? I'm not sure that's it, but a player who know when to give and take to get things done is a fit description. Of course, with Obama, it would be all take...
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 4:28 PM sgt.stryker writes:

bobsmyuncle

I thought long and hard about whether to post this or not. When it's all said and done, though, you can't win if you don't play.

Thanks for stopping by!!
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 4:31 PM sgt.stryker writes:

Chuck

I agree with your assessment re: Mac only staying 1 term and Sarah the natural progression. It's obvious to me there is one group more interested in the type of America I love, and the Obamaniacs ain't it.

Thanks for dropping in!!!
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 4:32 PM sgt.stryker writes:

davecatbone

you are correct...I misspoke when I said the middle, but certainly the fringe is not going to get much accomplished.
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 5:55 PM Jan@Oasis writes:

We Will Be COOKED!

bdubya, you are right and so is Bobbie--Osama will destroy so much in this country if he gets in for even one term. It is ridiculous to even consider such a scenario--the SCDS is playing with the future of our country.
Thanks for your comment on my letter to Grandpa. I agree that we will need God's mercy to see us through, especially if we cannot dump this nightmare of a candidate in November, and dump him once and for all.
I once posted a list of all the black candidates I would vote for over McCain (and still would),but Osama will never be one of them. He is stupid, he is NOT Christian, he is a Marxist, and I have a really bad feeling about his, ahem, CHARACTER, or lack thereof.
We must defeat him. Keep writing. Jan@Oasis
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 7:32 PM sgt.stryker writes:

Jan

Michael Steele and Lynn Swann jump to mind immediately. The left thinks that because they level the charge of racism, then it must be true. How unfortunate for them that they picked teh most liberal candidate ever to try and "heal" our country of its racist bent. I don't feel like I need healing, how 'bout you?

Thanks for dropping by!!
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Monday, September, 22, 2008 4:45 PM A Right Brainer writes:

Well Done

A well thought out argument.

I fear you are correct in your assesment that it won't cahnge anyone in the SCDS's mind. But it is nto because you lack inteligence or are not articulate enough.

As i have said it is because they have staked their ground, they made up their minds and are now wholly bent on obtaining converts of their own.

Its good to see some reason in our nidst and I enjoyed your article. Thanks for stoppping at mine.

keep The faith!

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Monday, September, 22, 2008 7:12 PM Peppermint2 writes:

dbubyha

Good article and well thought out and written. I saw your post over at Right Brainer's and decied to see what you posted.

My husband, Goshawk, and I both decided quite some time ago, we would have to vote for McCain and hope for the best. We both researched Obama quite extensively and there is nothing in that man's background that is good. He has associations with the worst of Chicago-land, the dirtiest politics in the country.

Out of his own mouth, in his books, he talks about his Marxist/communist leanings. He worked for Saul Alinsky in Chicago. That was his "community service" getting people riled up and so forth. He is associated with ACORN and worked for them too. Good grief, how much does it take to figure out what this guy is about.

So, we vote the McCain/Palin ticket and for the SCDS, all I can say, is their plan won't work. Their method of casting a 3rd party vote will just be a blip on the screen and I've never seen anything develop out of voting 3rd party. It's a waste. Unfortunately the SCDS has become a hostile place to visit so I don't go there any more. I don't care to get beaten up when I go to someone's blog or be called names and demeaned. I don't need to subject myself to that kind of abuse simply because I have a different opinion.
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Monday, September, 22, 2008 7:14 PM Peppermint2 writes:

bdubya

I'm going to put you on my blog roll if that's all right.
Pep
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Monday, September, 22, 2008 8:10 PM sgt.stryker writes:

Peppermint

you are absolutely correct on all fronts. I'd be honored if you added me to your blogroll...
thanks for stopping by!!
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 8:16 AM davecatbone writes:

Credit where credit due

If Obama wins, all the false modesty in the world cannot prevent the full credit for the wonderful things he'll do for our country on those who feign a "protest vote". A tenth grader can see the direct ramifications of his actions, and to enable an Obama win, is to earn credit for his actions upon, er I mean for this country. I won't forget.
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 10:48 AM sgt.stryker writes:

davecat

amen, brother. I am starting to see more and more mentions of his ties to Alinsky...IBD had a great piece yesterday. If the folks can even extrapolate one or two degrees, it gets pretty obvious. This should be a lot easier than it's turning out to be, though, which is pretty effin scary.
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 12:26 PM davecatbone writes:

bdubya

It's hammering through the density of the dumbed down moderate middle's lazy intellects. they pose a threat to our Republic.
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 12:35 PM sgt.stryker writes:

davecat

dumbed down lazy intellect is an understatement of some magnitude. How unfortunate. We can thank the MSM and our public school system for that. Keep sharing the faith, brother.
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 2:25 PM A Right Brainer writes:

The dumbing down of America

As someone who is devoted to the proposition that only a mass movement of the center to the right will yield a more conservative country. I must take exception to "the dumbed down and lazy intelect' comments.

I humbly submit that people of America are neither lazy nor dumb, in general. I further submit that though they appear appathetic, it is not because they don't have the capacity to understand. Rather their attitude is a refelction of the inundation of public schools and media onslaught of left wing ideals. They have not and will not adopt those ideals specifically, though they are forced to by their apathy.

It is, and shall ever remain my contention that the American people are not stupid or lazy, they are tired! Tired of the same ole same ole, the bait and swicth of the GOP, the foolish socialism of the Dem's. They need to know that there is something that can be done about it, and its our job to tell them.

Shameless Plug... My recent post in the series "Sun Tzu & the Culture War" deals specifically with this topic.

Keep the faith!
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 2:41 PM sgt.stryker writes:

Right Brainer

It seems like everytime I drive anywhere, I am almost hit by someone talking/texting on their cell while driving. I meet parents of some of the kids at my kid's school, and see how they let their kids dress/act. I go the mall and see tarted up 12 yr old girls and boys with their pants down around their a%$...these are prevailing norms as opposed to exceptions. I just returned from the social security office and saw 2 young black(?) girls there, both with infants, and one of them was pregnant. They couldn't have been more than 17. Now, it is certainly debatable about what percentage of the population is "dumbed down" and "lazy"...but I have a hard time believing that the situation has improved over the past 20 years as opposed to getting worse. However, I think we can all agree on the causes... and that's the salient issue. I'll check your piece out later.

Thanks so much for stopping and throwing in your 2 pennies worth!!
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 2:54 PM A Right Brainer writes:

You're welcome

Agreed the social norms seem to be relaxed and getting worse, and yes we know where the culprit lays.

It hs not improved in the last 20 years, sadly.

What you witnessed is but a tiny microcosm of america. I was speaking specifically about the center portion. When I see what you saw, it reminds me of how much work there is to be done on all fronts in the war of ideas.

We have lost alot of ground, but the battle isn't over, and the war isn't lost.

i guess the point i was trying to make, was that we run the risk of acting like the dem's when we say America is dumbed down.

Its a little too similar to "...bitterly clinging to guns and religion" in its whole-handed painting of America.

two cents! Is that all my opinions worth! J/K.

your post is exellent and the debate in comments is as important as any other i have found around here.

keep the faith!

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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 3:15 PM sgt.stryker writes:

right brainer

yep, don't wanna sound like the opposition LOL

funny you mention the comments on this post and the "debate" here...I'm truly surprised I didn't raise some of the hackles of those I was addressing?? Haven't heard nary a peep. Curious, to say the least. I had my armor at the ready LOL

Take care, buddy.
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 3:59 PM A Right Brainer writes:

Yeah well

I think part of the reason you haven't seen much debate here, is because 1) they have toned down their message a bit. still advocating third party, but accepting that the center has to shift.
2) there was a long discourse at the orphanage about armed revolt against the government... way to sell your opinion SCDS.

and 3) Its always easier to preach to a choir with hellfire and brimstone than to take on dissenters with reason.

I'll say again it was a great post and if you want to follow the debate, which is still going on, head over to Calling a Spade a Spade's blog. You can catch a link on my page if you don't have it.

keep the faith, man!
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 4:44 PM davecatbone writes:

Right Brainer

you missed the first part, Moderate Middle. I speak of those who will not, cannot make a political stand, because they choose not to invest any intellectual energy to actually learn what it is they are voting for. These are the people who vote for Hope & Change®. Now you are bringing a great deal of energy and enthusiasm to the debate, and I think you do TH a great service. But I won't buy into the premise that they have been abandoned by the political process and need to be reached out to. No, I say THEY have abandoned the process, and willfully decide it's more important to watch Dancing With the Stars than any political program. These are the folks most coveted by the Enemedia.
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 5:12 PM A Right Brainer writes:

Dcat

Correct I did miss it, my bad.

I will cede your point that THEY have given up on the political process.

Will you consider the premise that the result (i.e giving up on the political process) is not a point with which to assign blame but rather to capitalize on?

Dig a little deeper, and you will find that many who have "abandoned" the political process have done so out of disgust for what's it become. They are tired of sorting through the BS on both sides, that when offeered a choice between rep and dem it is impossible for them to make a distinction.

I submit that they can be revivied, through patient persitent and reasoned debate.

I may be wrong, Lord knows I have been before.

The left wants them to stay apathetic, it allows their minority to abscond elections and further prolifigate their socialistic agenda. Who do we serve when we abandon them also?

Keep the Faith!
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 5:13 PM A Right Brainer writes:

PS

Thanks I hope that I add something to the debate that is worthwhile. :-)
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 9:41 PM DamienBlaze writes:

Four reasons to elect McCain...

... instead of Obama. In no particular order:

1. China
2. Iran
3. Russia
4. North Korea
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Wednesday, September, 24, 2008 9:57 PM sgt.stryker writes:

DamienBlaze

if Biden's foreign policy "speech" from today is any indication, you are absolutely correct.
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Thursday, September, 25, 2008 12:40 PM davecatbone writes:

RB I'll allow

that the political dropouts are there for the persuading...but it takes more energy than I have to break through intellectual laziness and a reticence to use critical thinking. You should be a political organizer for the GOP. Good comments.
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Thursday, September, 25, 2008 12:57 PM A Right Brainer writes:

Dcat

If political organizer is anything like "community organizer' I want no part of that! ;-)

I am in fact a political organizer... for conservatives. If the democrats started putting up conservative canidates I'd vote dem.

I too get discouraged, even when talking with conservatives!

But I can't sit by and do nothing while the country continues down this path. I have chosen the battleground where I think my time and talents can best be utilized, for good or ill, thats where i choose to stake my ground.

Keep the Faith!

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Thursday, September, 25, 2008 10:16 PM Sheila writes:

bdubya

Yeah, I'm with you...suicide is not a good idea...
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Friday, September, 26, 2008 9:41 AM sgt.stryker writes:

Sheila

Yeah, I don't get it either. I hope Mac goes to the debate, I think he will change some folks' minds.

Thanks for stopping by!
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Friday, September, 26, 2008 9:58 AM Redhead writes:

Ok, I’ll bite

“When it's all said and done, I believe we are best served with opposing executive and legislative branches. I know for a fact that we are ill served with one party running both, regardless of who that may be.”

And the only choices we have right now is either a Democrat or … a Democrat. Which leaves the legislative branches. And we are all for electing Conservatives to the legislature.

Look, I can’t stand the thought of Obama. I don’t want him to win. I just want McCain to lose. Because if he wins, then Conservatives have lost. I don’t think he will listen to the Conservative wing of his party. He hasn’t in the past, why should he start now? I think that the infighting within the Party looks bad on our part, and makes us weaker in the long run. The best hope that I see is to return the Party to a more Conservative position.
At least with Obama in, the Republicans will be able to oppose him honestly, and hopefully keep him tied up and harmless.

That being said, and I’ve told the SCDS this as well, I think that McCain is headed for a win. As such, the other option is to register a protest vote so that maybe, MAYBE someone out there will recognize it and reign McCain in.

By the way, I got it… “Checkity check yourself before you wreck yourself!” Good line!
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Friday, September, 26, 2008 10:12 AM sgt.stryker writes:

Red

I agree that there are items in Mac's history that would indicate that he may not listen to the base. But I also believe that to characterize him as a democrat when he has a number of positions that aren't on that side of the equation isn't helpful. We can only speculate about whether or not we can "keep him in line", but it is a known quantity about what the chances are for moving Obama to the right. And if he gets a veto-proof congress we are cooked.

Thanks for stopping by!
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Saturday, September, 27, 2008 7:33 AM davecatbone writes:

bdubya

eight years of Obama and a Dem majority in congress? This is a plan of intelligent people?
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Saturday, September, 27, 2008 9:15 AM drpete writes:

Thoughtful post, bdubya

McCain is a loser, but Obama is really scary.
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Saturday, September, 27, 2008 9:36 AM sgt.stryker writes:

davecat

my point exactly. The thought of Dodd, Reid, Pelosi et al AND Obama together should be enough to scare anyone.
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Saturday, September, 27, 2008 9:39 AM sgt.stryker writes:

drpete

it sounds like everyone wants the perfect candidate. If that's what we are waiting for, we have a long wait. An incrementally better Mac is still better than "the one".

Thanks for stopping by.
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Saturday, September, 27, 2008 9:55 AM Cindy of Texas writes:

bdubya - Roger that!

No more waiting for perfection! To my mind, that way lies madness, and seems more like a Democrat strategy for installing all kinds of socialist-minded programs and weak-kneed foreign policy instruments in the meantime. No, I say! Let's take the fight now, in 2008, and support our candidate, with his imperfections. The solution is to also fight hard for good, solid candidates in our House and Senate, and stay engaged in the ground battles there.
Thank you for the well-written argument to stay focused and in the fight!
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Saturday, September, 27, 2008 10:04 AM sgt.stryker writes:

cindy

amen, sister. I heard a quote the other night (sorry I can't attribute it) "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good".
Fits here...
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Sunday, September, 28, 2008 12:03 PM davecatbone writes:

bdubya

Boehner has won some for us, stop by....
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Monday, September, 29, 2008 12:13 PM A Right Brainer writes:

Bdub

Just posted about rebuttal to a specific point of the AntiMccain crowd.

These last fewdays have demostrated what i think is another flaw in their understanding.

Your thoughts are welcome.

keep the faith!
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Wednesday, October, 01, 2008 1:49 AM Peppermint2 writes:

bdubya

Got a new post at my blog.
"Joe Biden Gaffes"

Come on over when you get a chance.
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Friday, October, 03, 2008 7:40 PM Will Penny writes:

NOBAMA/NOBIDEN

B-DUB,

Will Penny requests you check out the above entry and pass it along.

WP
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Friday, October, 03, 2008 7:40 PM Will Penny writes:

NOBAMA/NOBIDEN

B-DUB,

Will Penny requests you check out the above entry and pass it along.

WP
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Friday, October, 17, 2008 9:16 AM davecatbone writes:

It aint over Bdub

the polls are moving. New post up, stop by when you can, it's topical for this post.
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Tuesday, October, 21, 2008 9:18 AM davecatbone writes:

bdubya

We are waiting for a new post from you, get going buddy!:) Hey, I've got a new one up, swing by when you can.....
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Thursday, October, 23, 2008 3:22 PM Peppermint2 writes:

bdubya

Hey there bdubya. New post at my place. Come on by when ya get a chance.
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Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:15 AM Peppermint2 writes:

bdubya

You been busy? Where you at?

New post up at my blog, written by guest writer Dogged. Come by when you are free.

Pep
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Monday, November, 10, 2008 11:39 AM The Crawfish writes:

well.....

I was one of the more reasonable SCDS types. My state was a guaranteed win for McLame. So much so that neither candidate did any campaigning in Texas once the primaries were over. I was able to vote my conscience. I was one of 3418 Texans to vote for Chuck Baldwin. If the issue had been in doubt, I'd have probably have taken the advise of the folks at http://www.getdrunkandvote4mccain.com.

New edition of The Weekly Claw coming late tonight/early tomorrow over at The Swamp.
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