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Comment on: ANTI-LIBERAL ZONE

Speaking of the UN...

46 Comments
Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 9:41 AM YLG writes:

GunnyG

Hmmm....

A Catholic priest openly working in politics.....

Methinks something is rotten in Nicaragua.

E-mail sent to the Vatican....
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 9:48 AM clyde writes:

Gunny

"Reuters calls him a fierce critic of the U.S." Not much more to be said,the LSM has a NEW HERO at that steaming pile. Can't be shed of that most corrupt of org.'s fast enough.
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 9:59 AM Gunny "knuckles" G© writes:

YLG

I've written letters and emails to the Vatican to no avail. They only care about the money flowing in especially when they do NOTHING about abortion advocates like Chappaquiddick Ted and Hanoi John taking the Host.
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 10:00 AM Gunny "knuckles" G© writes:

clyde

With our corrupt Senate and Congress, it'll never happen. The UN must be giving them kickbacks.
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 10:01 AM clyde writes:

Gunny

Meant to add,why don't the libs DENOUNCE the mixing of religion and politics with these RADICAL priests and ministers? Guess it's OK as long as they are slamming the U.S.
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 10:07 AM Gunny "knuckles" G© writes:

clyde

You got that right. They are very silent when the things THEY denouce are working their way. Hypocrites.
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 10:59 AM drillbit writes:

U.N. OUT

Thats my thinking,but who am I,just a taxpayer and voter,the U.S.Government does not care what I think.that about sums it up.
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 11:22 AM Gray Ghost writes:

A New Name for My Better Off Dead List

Thanks Gunny. My list keeps getting longer and longer. And the year 1775 just keeps coming back to my thoughts.
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 1:14 PM Buck writes:

What Happened to the Catholic Church?

There was a time when the Pope himself strapped on a sword and led Christain armies against enemies of the west.
There was a time when the church dealt with evil.
Now...
Priests molest young boys.
And the church remains silent.
Priests rail against freedom.
And the church remains silent.
An evil religion threatens the world.
And the church remains silent.
There is poverty and hunger and pain and the pope is in the counting room...
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 1:20 PM Apollyon67 writes:

Gunny,

from where did you dig this corpse? What is it about the UN and their need to discredit the one nation that is the Enforcer of what they want? We give them money, arms, manpower, aid supplies... Let them take care of their own in their own fashion. We should take care of our own in our own fashion. Just an off topic thought here, Does anyone think that maybe Obama promised Hillary a Supreme Court Justice spot the other night when they met alone at Diane's house?
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 1:36 PM Steve writes:

Dear GunnyG

Pope Benedict has certainly inherited a lot of baggage, hasn't he? Unfortunately, the Papacy's power is largely ceremonial (like Queen Elizabeth's) and in such an extensive organization as the Catholic Church carries only so much weight. I only hope that he and the Cardinals can ultimately prevail against the political, Marxist, God-is-dead theocrats that have been infiltrating his church for decades (as they have others) before they succeed in destroying Christendom... which is, of course, their goal.

And now, one of the biggest priestly renegades of all is president of the General Assembly? That's even more obscene than Yasser Arafat's infamous address to the UN... or Hugo Chavez crossing himself while referring to President Bush as "El Diablo". The Devil's minions, indeed, now run the United Nations for all to see. If there was ever a time for us to, with all conceivable justice, sever ties with this perverted organization, this is it.

If Donald Trump turned the UN Building into a hotel- with the Assembly room as a Grand Casino floor- it would still serve a better purpose (and a more productive one!)- than what it does at present.

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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 2:49 PM CVN65 writes:

The UN

Does anyone think that they will ever have a pro-US SecGen? It is a crying shame that we lost Bolton holding their feet to the fire. Heck, I can't even recall the name of the Ambassador currently posted there. Dang, where is the good news? Good job, Gunny, keep it up.
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 4:32 PM beachmom writes:

Well,

I guess they're coming out of the closet, so to speak. With Barry O looking like he could be the next POTUS, the UN must figure it's a good time to let him know they'll be there for him and his "world poverty" (aka tax the US citizens into poverty) plans and that they should make sure he'll be happy with them.
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Tuesday, June, 10, 2008 8:12 PM 1maschrom writes:

The mere fact that we


participate in the sewer that is the UN, proves to me that our sovereignty and Independence is all an illusion. The corrupt nations of this gang called the UN, are in cahoots with one another, and 90% of our population is clueless.
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 7:45 AM HarryJ writes:

We are the bad guys

"The behavior of some member states [the USA] has caused the United Nations to lose credibility as an organization capable of putting an end to war and eradicating extreme poverty from our planet."

This says all that I need to know that if we do not get the heck out of the UN we are going to be a 3rd world country within a year of the annointed one being elected.

I wish our current President would call this turd out on that statement. Tell the US just what we have done to cause the UN to lose credibilty? Seems to me that they have enough scandals without us. Oil for food, raping underage girls and their mothers just for fun, and basically being thugs did not involve any US troops.
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 8:13 AM The Crawfish writes:

credibility?

"The behavior of some member states [the USA] has caused the United Nations to lose credibility as an organization capable of putting an end to war and eradicating extreme poverty from our planet."

The UN had credibility at some time since the early 1950s? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Oooooooohhhh, my sides hurt!
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 8:41 AM caday5 writes:

HarryJ

Certainly the UN merits much criticism, but consider that since we are a prominent member of that organization, then that criticism partially falls on us.

And when you mention oil for food, since we played large part in constructing both the sanctions and the oil for food program; then again, some of that criticism falls on us.

When you consider history and current events, there is more than enough criticism to go around--unless of course, we feel compelled to feel superior to others.
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 9:35 AM The Crawfish writes:

C5

We are a prominent member, but they only rely on us for money and stuff. The arab bloc, the socialist bloc, and the petty dictator bloc.....those 3 control the UN.
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 9:54 AM caday5 writes:

Crawfish

We are more than just a money provider. For example, the construction of the oil for food program was mostly determined by our demands.
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 10:09 AM The Crawfish writes:

C5

our demands, but we weren't the ones who wrote and administered it.
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 10:35 AM caday5 writes:

Crawfish

Our demands partially wrote the UN oil for food program. The program was designed to show favoritism to the Kurdish region and to have the rest of Iraq bear the brunt of the costs.

It is Hans Von Sponeck's words that tell us that Baghdad never delayed requisitioning supplies for its people. Von Sponeck, btw, was the program's second coordinator. The first one who resigned in protest of the program calling it genocidal was an American named Denis Haliday.

In addition, during one of the years there, Von Sponeck monitored airstrikes which took place at a rate of 1 airstrike every 3 days killing over 100 people and injuring hundreds.

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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 3:02 PM HarryJ writes:

The bottom line is...

that if the US decided to pull out of the UN it would fold up immediately. Without the financial support of the US the UN could not exist. If it makes it sound like I think the US is superior so be it.
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 4:35 PM caday5 writes:

HarryJ

Isn't that like saying if Bill Gates closed Microsoft, then many people would lose their jobs. So if Bill Gates is superior, so be it. If Walmart is superior, so be it. Let the superior be above the law.

Internationally, that mentality breed contempt and conflict. And conflict is something we want to avoid while technology makes even the weak powerful. Also, if you have a fundamental commitment to the rule of law, then this superior notion is not acceptable.
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 5:44 PM IGoCommando writes:

No Caday

You comparison vs. Harry's argument isn't valid. Harry didn't propose we close the U.N., just leave it. If Bill Gates LEFT MSFT tomorrow, they would be just fine.
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 7:52 PM caday5 writes:

IGoCommando

I agree with your point to a point. But should our position in financing the UN imply a privileged status? If so, where is equality and how will we get other nations to practice equality internally if we can't discipline ourselves to practice it in our foreign policies.

The Rule of Law requires equality between nations. Without it, you are merely playing king of the hill or relying on the rule of force
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Wednesday, June, 11, 2008 11:10 PM not going to tell you writes:

$0.5 B

Not too much to ask to at least give the look and feel of caring about other countries' problems. I'd say it's the least we can do, especially given the $5B we spend every week squandering our good name in Iraq.
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Thursday, June, 12, 2008 12:45 PM Buck writes:

"The Untied Nations"

Some fifty plus years ago I was listening to a late night commentator on the radio. He was talking about a newspaper article about the United Nations but the paper had a typo and it came out "Untied Nations". He was asking if it was actually a "United" Nations or an "Untied" Nations. This was so many years ago. Back in the day of Dag Hammerskjold. So it seems there has been discontent with the UN almost since its inception. Why does the Great American Government keep feeding this grossly overweight pig at our trough of cornucopia?
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Thursday, June, 12, 2008 1:56 PM caday5 writes:

Gunny

I think that the same criticisms you make of the UN here can be made of our own gov't.
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Thursday, June, 12, 2008 3:20 PM HarryJ writes:

Caday

I agree with you that the same could be said of our Government. The problem is that too many people will just vote down the party line and re-elect the same people back into office. I fully support term limits. We should not allow people to turn holding office into a career. I also feel that it should be easier for the voters to remove someone from office if they are not performing their duties. We the People have given too much power to the politicians both Republican and Democrat and now we are all suffering for it. We may not agree on many issues but I bet that you do not vote for someone based on the letter next to their name. I have never been registered with a party and I never will. I often vote for 3rd party candidates if I believe they will do some good. People should always vote for the candidate that best represents their beliefs but too many people vote based soley on what party the candidate belongs to.
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Thursday, June, 12, 2008 3:35 PM caday5 writes:

HarryJ

I agree with that last note. Thank you for writing that.
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Thursday, June, 12, 2008 8:56 PM Gunny "knuckles" G© writes:

ALL

Some d*mn good posts here, even one from caday5.

Careful amigo, you're getting converted!
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Thursday, June, 12, 2008 8:57 PM Gunny "knuckles" G© writes:

Apollyon67

LOL!

Had to answer this one.

Obambi promised her the SecDef position so she can drive the nail in that Bubba started.

"Don't ask, don't tell!"
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Thursday, June, 12, 2008 8:58 PM Gunny "knuckles" G© writes:

Steve

If the UN building was turned into a stockyard, it would serve us better!
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Friday, June, 13, 2008 12:32 AM not going to tell you writes:

caday harry

I think the concept of voting for the ideal candidate you "believe in" is flawed because in any race, you only get an image of what the candidate is, not who they truly are. You are allowing yourselves to "believe" in a manufactured image.

My voting habits are much more cynical and pragmatic. I vote for the candidate with a realistic chance of winning that comes closest to your ideal (fantasy) candidate.
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Friday, June, 13, 2008 10:49 AM KenUSA writes:

Liberation theology is BS

This statement is about a cohort of Brockman's.

"When John Paul visited Nicaragua in 1983, Cardenal attempted to greet the Pope in the traditional manner of dropping to one knee and kissing his ring. John Paul pulled his hand away from Cardenal and shook his finger at him. The world looked on uncomfortably."

Thanks Gunny, for reminding me of my duty as a Catholic to expose these heretics.
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Friday, June, 13, 2008 12:44 PM Buck writes:

Harry J

Term Limits

The reason the congressional term of the Representative is 2 years instead of the 6 of the Senator is because the original intent of the Representative was to be a Citizen who puts aside his business for two years and goes to to the capitol to keep an eye on the government. But the politicians have perverted its intent, like they do everything, and now professional political prostitutes make a career out of it. My state has term limits and the results are statesmen like Inholf and Coburn. My representative is approaching term limits and he will be missed but I am confident that with our system we will get another good man to represent us.
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Friday, June, 13, 2008 9:34 PM caday5 writes:

ngtty

And when too many people take your approach, there is no chance of change. And you seem content to look down on those who do not fall in line.
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Friday, June, 13, 2008 9:51 PM Sue writes:

Memo

Did I miss the memo that said the UN had credibility? How is that oil for food program going and all of those kickbacks?
Great another person on U.S. soil who does not like us. Please get in line and take a number.
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Saturday, June, 14, 2008 9:51 AM caday5 writes:

oil for food

The US knew what was going on before things went public. In fact, the oil for food program, largely devised by the US, was call "genocidal" by the first UN coordinator who managed it. That would be an American named Denis Haliday.

During one 6 month phase of the program, the average amount of money spent per Iraqi was around 32 cents a day. That was to cover food, medicine, and infrastructure. As for food, buying local food was not allowed. In addition, despite the fact that the Iraqi central gov't ordered goods right away, their delivery was delayed because out of the same money designated for the non-kurdish regions was first used to pay for goods for the kurdish region and for claims made by Kuwait for the Iraqi invasion.

The oil for food program was designed to offset the deadly effects of our bombing of Iraqi infrastructure (bombing civilian infrastructure violates international law) and the sanctions which claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. So regardless of the corruption that occurred in the oil for food program, there are other guilty parties as well including us.
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Saturday, June, 14, 2008 2:20 PM not going to tell you writes:

caday

It's not a matter of "falling in line". It's a matter of swallowing your pride and arrogance to do the right thing.
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Sunday, June, 15, 2008 12:21 AM caday5 writes:

ngtty

and you are the one who defines what is the right thing to do for each person.

I believe that those who vote their conscience rather than the lesser of two evils are doing the right thing.
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Thursday, June, 19, 2008 6:33 PM not going to tell you writes:

lesser of two intellects maybe

in your case
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Thursday, June, 19, 2008 10:35 PM not going to tell you writes:

caday

sorry, bad day
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Saturday, June, 21, 2008 7:02 PM caday5 writes:

ngtty

we all say things.
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Saturday, July, 05, 2008 12:26 AM Steve writes:

Dear Caday

Don't y'all just?
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Saturday, July, 05, 2008 12:27 AM Steve writes:

Dear Caday

Don't y'all just?
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