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Comment on: The Baby with the Bathwater...

Marx Lied, Millions Died

38 Comments
Saturday, December, 20, 2008 12:03 AM EJR writes:

Dean D.

Thanks again Dean D. for another excellent post. Most of these Bush haters out there are themselves Marxist.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 12:07 AM Dean D. writes:

EJR

Thanks for stopping by again and thank you for the kind words!

I agree, hence my post. It seems quite ironic that they bash Pres. Bush when their hero was much worse by cause and effect.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 12:21 AM Jennifer writes:

Dean D.

The number of people who have died under these regimes are staggering.

Don't fall for the ism's, history has proven how costly this could be...

Good research Dean.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 12:27 AM Dean D. writes:

Jennifer

Thanks, the website I linked with the numbers will stagger anyone. It is hard for me to fathom such numbers.

I laugh at the juvenile way that communists think that by changing their name constantly they will not be associated with Karl Marx and his philosophy. I guess they use "progressive" now instead of liberal. Same difference, same mantra.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 1:15 AM Kyle writes:

Dean D.

Appalling. I recently graduated from High School and am going through college now, and I don't remember learning too much about this. Mr. Stalin's deeds make Hitler's look a misdemeanor.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 1:47 AM Cindy writes:

That's a good Slogan

to be on bumper stickers now!...it'll keep the left busy with damage control...and also force the left to study their history to find out there's nothing new under the sun.

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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 9:41 AM davecatbone writes:

As long as....

we're talking numbers Dan, how bout telling a Lib the Governments Bailout will surpass the cost of all US Wars put together. Watch their faces drop, confusion set in, and then.....TA DAAAAAH! Denial. Merry Christmas Dan!
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 9:42 AM davecatbone writes:

Oops

Sorry Dean, Of course I meant Dean! Mea Culpa! Seasons Greetings.....
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 10:05 AM Ender writes:

Dean, the name change

may prove they've rewritten history enough to fool themselves.

From some of what I've read (I admit it's not conclusive evidence), the term 'Progressive' was applied to the movement -before- they co-opted and corrupted the once-honorable term 'Liberal'. If they're going back to it, it means either they think they've managed to successfully deceive others as to what it meant, or else they've deceived themselves into forgetting they'd already used that one.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 10:11 AM Dean D. writes:

Kyle

Welcome! Good to see young people exploring and learning on their own and I applaud you for seeking information outside established academia.

I am not at all surprised you did not learn this in previous classes. The left leaning Academic Elite in our country have successfully revised the history taught in our classrooms today.

The USSR had many leaders besides Stalin. He was their second leader. I believe the order would be; Lenin, Stalin, Malenkov, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko and finally Gorbachev. The total deaths attributed in Mr. Rummel's writing span the entire history of the USSR and include all of these leaders.

You are correct, the USSR made Hitler's Nazi's seem like pikers.

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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 10:13 AM Dean D. writes:

Cindy

Thanks and I agree. If anyone wanted to make that slogan into a bumper sticker I would be happy to see them do so. Anything to fight the socialist menace and maybe educate people of the truth.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 10:17 AM Dean D. writes:

DaveCat

Yes sir, I am sure you are correct.

I have not researched the numbers but I get a feeling that the bailout will surpass ALL war spending in our history combined.

Sad, ain't it? We are in a war of sorts, and ideological one rather than one fought with arms...so far... I am not sure how long our people can remain so fractured before the division becomes too great for just words.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 10:34 AM Dean D. writes:

Ender

I think you are right, I believe they have deceived themselves on both accounts. That is the kind of battle the left promotes and when you lie often enough it can come back to haunt you.

Also I believe that is the "Change" the Obamunist speaks of. Good eye spotting it on your part!
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 10:35 AM Dean D. writes:

DaveCat

Oh yeah, I forgot! Merry Christmas Backattcha!

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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 12:05 PM Bobbie writes:

Dean, if you'll look

into Darwin's theory of Evolution, you'll find that Marx, Hitler, Lenin and all the rest of the monsters subscribed to this theory which devalues life to -0- and is the true basis for all the "isms" that think nothing of snuffing out life. If you need some reading references on the subject, let me know.

Good post with great food for thought.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 12:29 PM Dean D. writes:

Bobbie

I agree, the "ism's" have never valued life over ideology. This would be inconvenient as they would then have to place religion somewhere in the equation.

I am always looking for more ammo to fight the red menace. I would enjoy any references you might be able to supply me.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 2:52 PM Jackpine Savage writes:

communism,socialism, fascism...

...all have the same father, Karl Marx.

To a young idealist with a head full of mush, communism sounds like a great idea.
Everyone earns the same (basically zilch), and you don't have to worry about making your own decisions. To a young idiot that sounds like school without tests.

Of course, it can only work in Theory, because people aren't the interchangeable cogs that communism tries to make them into, so, for "The greater good" those malcontents who don't fit must be eliminated.

I bet Marx never thought those malcontents would number in the millions.

See you in the re-education camps.



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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 2:58 PM rackoons writes:

Dean, the problem is

I have been teaching about this for 47 years. But, as you well know, none of my colleagues in college or even when I taught in high school, actually taught that socialism , communism, was bad. Oh, Nazis and Mussolini,boy howdy they were but 'you know, you know, socialism and communism just hasn't been given a chance.' I have heard that for years. And now with the faux Messiah, those chickens have come home to roost. Americans in the millions just forget history and are willing to do it all over again with the equalization nonsense of the liberal socialist pacifist Dems. Your facts are well known Dean but the Leftist profs just will not teach them.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 3:01 PM Jackpine Savage writes:

Kyle

If you want to learn things about liberalism you never heard from your college profs, try Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg.

Definitely chock full of info useful for disarming liberal arguments.

That's why liberals Hate goldberg so much!

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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 3:15 PM Dean D. writes:

JackPine

Excellent analysis. The only reason I did not list fascism is because by definition it means an "Authoritarian" or "Totalitarian Nationalist" ideology. Therefore it is possible to have a conservative fascist or a liberal fascist government.

That Hitler was a student of Marx is incontrovertible. Witness the party name; "National Socialist German Workers Party". The Nazi regime was considered a fascist regime by definition. It is possible to be socialist and fascist at the same time, as ironic by today's liberal definition as that seems. I would have to judge the USSR at its worst to be a fascist government also.

Thanks for stopping by and adding your .02 worth!
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 3:20 PM Dean D. writes:

Rackoons

You make many valid points which I agree with.

Our higher and lower education system has been taken over by card carrying socialists with a mission to smooth the way to a new world order. The sad part is we have not been vigilant enough to realize this was happening, especially in public funded universities.

The subtle editing of our history has created several generations of clueless voters.

To paraphrase the old adage: "Those who fail to read history are doomed to repeat it."
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 6:26 PM The Crawfish writes:

Dean

good stuff as usual. You are progressing quite nicely. Keep goin' and Gunny's gonna be looking over his shoulder on the Top 10 list.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 6:36 PM Dean D. writes:

Craw

Thank you for the kind words sir. I wouldn't be here if not for you, DD and Gunny.

I don't think Gunny has a bit of worry about me catching up with him. In fact, I'm actually helping him by stirring up the trolls over there. LMAO, I've got Ivan on a heck of a rampage right now. Caution! Communist propaganda is spewing forth in massive amounts on that one thread.
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Saturday, December, 20, 2008 11:41 PM Gar Swaffar writes:

Dean

The ism's are after us and now one is about to lead us.
keep the powder dry
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Sunday, December, 21, 2008 10:14 AM Dan at Minuteman1 writes:

Millions died

When you have the same people who advocate all these "isms" in charge of your educational system from kindergarten through college as well as 98% of the national news media all in an effort to get and keep people brainwashed the liklihood of anything changing, regarding peoples attitudes and their fundemental beliefs is extremely low. People believe what they are taught in the classroom and a vast number "still" believe the news media. It is a systemic problem that is self perptetuating. My greatest fear is wondering what it will ultimately take to wake people UP! Until people stop buying the crap that is being peddled by the, Socialist, Progressive, Communist ideologues, nothing is going to change. This country is currently in an advanced state of insanity.
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Sunday, December, 21, 2008 10:43 AM Dean D. writes:

Boaz

Scary, ain't it? Rest assured, mine is dry and safely stored for future use.
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Sunday, December, 21, 2008 10:46 AM Dean D. writes:

Dan

I agree with all your points, we are definitely in for some rough times ahead. My only hope is that enough of the people awaken from their stupor to make a difference.

Young people like Kyle, who posted here earlier, give me hope. Not all are drinking the kool-aid without thinking for themselves first.

Thanks for dropping by and commenting.
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Sunday, December, 21, 2008 12:26 PM emjayne writes:

Dean

Gee and I remember when there was a time people worried about the world being overpopulated!! We were supposed to cut down on births worldwide because there wouldn't be enough food.
And here these countries were taking care of that problem!!
It is amazing when you think of how many human beings have been killed in the world since the beginning of humans.

New post at my "house"
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Sunday, December, 21, 2008 2:03 PM rycK writes:

The Isms

Marxism and tribalism are the two worst of the isms.Add in Islam to the problems of tribalism and you have the Middle East. Add Marxism into Africa with its nasty tribalism and you have something just as bad.

Tribalism has been around for 7000 years and Marxism is a little new.

Here are my thoughts on the isms:

The Isms, Fatalism and Failure.
Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:39 PM
http://rycksrationalizations.townhall.com/g/317beb32-fc22-4 258-bc32-52ab5a17257a

Capitalism is not a 'ism' in reality or at least in the terms used in this blog. Governments rise and fall and political parties fade away but there is always a business opportunity for those who have the skills. The left view this as a threat to their existence and that is the basis for Marx.

The left have nothing left but our money and business talent and they will sacrifice both for 'equality.'

Capitalism means success and liberalism means failure.

rycK
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Sunday, December, 21, 2008 2:22 PM Dean D. writes:

Emjayne

I agree, we as humans collectively have done some major culling over the years.

The kumbaya singers would have us believe that if only we try we can all be friends...! From studying human history I hate to crap in their punchbowl and ruin their emotional party. But. It is not within human nature to do as the kumbaya singers wish.

Like I was once told by a wise old man, "Wish in one hand and $hit in the other, then tell me which one fills up first"

On my way over to check the new post.
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Sunday, December, 21, 2008 2:23 PM Dean D. writes:

Ryck

"The left have nothing left but our money and business talent and they will sacrifice both for 'equality.'

Capitalism means success and liberalism means failure."

Well said and I agree. Thanks for sharing that link with me, I'll be heading right over to read it.
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Monday, December, 22, 2008 6:54 PM MJSJR writes:

Dean D

Great Post. When Liberals give you insane rhetoric, just reply with research and facts.

President Bush protected us and killed a lot of terrorists and has made this country safer.

We know the truth, that is all that matters.

Stop by when you get a chance....
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Monday, December, 22, 2008 7:59 PM Dean D. writes:

MJSJR

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for the kind words. You are right, the rabid supports of the Obamunist would never think to admit Pres. Bush has kept us safe all these years.

Be over to your place soon!
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Saturday, December, 27, 2008 6:54 PM Klemkadiddle writes:

Dean. A realization about Bush...

As i read your "marx Lied..." I realized that I am beginning to experience the "gramps and granny stndrome." That's when the outsider listens to granny or gramps denounce "that scoundrel of a son, daughter, grankid" for hours. Then when the outsider wearily nods his head in agreement, they hit him with an ashtray and throw his body out into the snow.

I realize that I am tending to react in the same manner to denunciations of "W." I can do it, but lisping Socialist orators better keep their distance..."W" is family.
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Saturday, December, 27, 2008 8:00 PM Dean D. writes:

Klem

Yes sir, I know exactly how you feel. My blood pressure rises fast when the low life scum, usually liberal brainwashed teenagers or the teenage acting brain washers from academia, start flinging their invectives. What bothers me most is that almost invariably these same slogan slingers have never done a SINGLE thing to give back anything to this great nation. Almost all have their hand out asking "What's in it for me?". /rant off
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Saturday, January, 03, 2009 11:35 AM INTHENOW writes:

Dean D.


I recently posted a similar essay. There is no denying that atheist armed with Marxist ideals take the cake for sheer mass slaughter in the 20th century. But I would hesitate using the comparison alone to debate this subject. The argument inadvertently assumes Bush did lie, but the number of deaths he caused was less. Or simply put, pointing to bad behavior to justify more bad behavior. I understand that was not your meaning, but the unintended premise is there and any dishonest person could spin it that way.

I like to focus instead on logic and facts...they simply do not support the mantra:
http://inthenow.blogtownhall.com/2008/12/29/lets_forget.th tml

I enjoyed reading your blog and hope to join you on some of your New Years resolutions.

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Friday, January, 09, 2009 3:09 PM str8_talk writes:

Dean D.

Now we have another Marxist/Hitler blend coming into office right here in America! My son saw the mass graves of Iraqis when he was deployed on his 2nd tour to Iraq. He said it was sickening.

I had a professor who was going on about how we've lost more troops than the Iraqis had lost to genocide. Of course, the young people in the class were listening with rapt attention and I raised my hand and corrected him and said at that point there had been at least 100,000 people found in the mass graves compared to the 3,100 soldiers of combined American forces and although our troop loss was an atrocity, we had not uncovered all of what Saddam the genocidal dictator had done yet.

He said "Who are you getting your information from?" When I told him, my son a Marine Sgt, his face dropped. I said I tend to believe a firsthand account over the mass media!
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Friday, January, 09, 2009 3:29 PM Dean D. writes:

Str8

I applaud your straightening out your professor/propaganda minister. Stories like yours makes me wonder how many of these politically oriented so-called educators get off scott free with their propaganda.

Please extend my very sincere thank you to your Son for his service to our country.

Thanks for stopping by and sharing in the discussion.
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