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Taking on Lambchop - A Really Bad Idea
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 7:49 PM
Jimmy Carter
writes:
Lambchop.
Of course I completely agree with You. Have they no dignity? Is there no more shame in Our society?
The Republicans are being set up so as if they refuse to wallow in the gutter with this farce, they'll be made to look "out of touch" once again.
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 9:03 PM
philosophocon
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I heartily agree.
If you start to argue with a three-year old, you've stooped to their level and you've already lost.
Now it's my turn to ask: Jimmy how the heck do you do that?
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 9:17 PM
davecatbone
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No to the YouTube debates
Scottie, I think it'd be a big set-up for more Chris Matthews moments. And I agree, the GOP needs to stand up and call out the MSM as the Liberal biased bunch they are. And stand their ground. When The Libs come on Fox, the GOP returns to MSM, although, NO MORE Matthews or Olberman. That is truly stooping low.
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 10:30 PM
Scottie
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Jimmy
I know how you do your little magic trick, by the way, but your secret's safe with me. I'm a magician too, you know.
As for the Pubs, I'd rather have the Libs project the 'out of touch' meme onto me than be publicly humiliated by Floyd R. Turbo on national TV by a smirking Wolf Blitzer sitting there claiming to have nothing to do with it.
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 10:38 PM
Scottie
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Care to Field this one Rudy?
Here's an example of the kinds of questions that will likely come up on the Pubs You Tube debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydGiAKo7Py8
No win situation. You gonna out Santa on National TV, or promise some kind of gubmint fix for a problem created by the gubmint? Catch 22
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 10:41 PM
Scottie
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Philosophocon
It's not the three year olds I worry about, it's the "Have you quit beating your wife?" questions that worry me. You know CNN will liberally salt the debate with those kinds of questions for the Pubs; just as much as they avoided them with the Dems.
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 10:47 PM
Scottie
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Dave Cat
Good old Keith Olberman the sportscaster turned pompous self-righteous nightly anchor. Now there's a liberal's view of a moderate trying desparately to swing the conversation toward a more concilliatory conservative tone! Perhaps he can bring all five of his loyal viewers with him.
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 10:50 PM
BrianR
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Scottie, I couldn't agree more.
The previous low point in political debating came during the Bush 1/Clinton debate, with the sparklingly intellectual question: "Boxers or briefs?"
I had always assumed we'd reached the nadir of decorum. Ah, but I was proven wrong.
Are we in a race to see how deep we can plunge? Have we as a nation decided that since we can't seem to get our political act together, we may as well act like the Three Stooges?
That will certainly go a long way to cementing our position in the arena of international prestige.
Hell, the way things are nowadays, I can't really blaim bin Laden for wanting to blow us off the map. It may be a kindness to spare us from such international embarrassment.
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 11:21 PM
BLACKTYGRRRR
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The You Tube debate was nonsense
The You Tube debate was a disgrace. However, I do not blame You Tube. I blame liberal voters for asking stupid questions, and CNN for allowing it.
Republicans submitting questions to You Tube should simply ask intelligent questions in an adult manner.
I am contacting conservative bloggers around the country since I am one as well. I hope this email is not an intrusion.
Anyway, I would like it very much if you would go to
http://www.bloggerschoiceawards.com/blogs/show/21020
and vote for me for best political blog and best overall blog as well, IF AND ONLY IF you feel my blog is of a high quality. I really think I have a legitimate shot at winning. If you are open to spreading the word, that would be cool as well.
Thank you.
eric aka
http://www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com
P.S. If you are open to doing a link exchange, I get some pretty decent traffic.
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 11:25 PM
Scottie
writes:
Brian
Let's see:
We have an ambulance chasing trial lawyer, that got wealthy using junk science, and obsessed with his appearance and the poor.
We have a black man that thinks unicorns, pixie dust and good Karma are the answer to everything. He would say it's a black thing, but he's not black enough.
And a female northeastern liberal that is as strident and scripted as Al Gore is boring and self-absorbed.
A male gun-grabbing, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage northeastern liberal (is that redundant?)
A morman from the great state of Massachusetts where something in the water makes people think government is always the answer running a campaign with less traction than greased butter on ice.
A very old war hero that loves war so much he's been at war with his own party for the past decade, specializing in sliding the blade in from behind right between the shoulder blades.
And a good ol boy from the south that can't get his campaign act together and get the show on the road 'cause his trophy wife thinks SHE'S Hillary.
Cue the theme from the Magnificent Seven.
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 11:31 PM
Scottie
writes:
Eric
your culture has a term for this kind of shameless self-promotion. . . Chutzpah!
It doesn't matter how many good questions are submitted, the nutroots from the left will also submit theirs, and the MSM will select from the pool. Do you really beleive that the MSM will select questions that will make Republicans look good? Seriously? Wanna buy a bridge?
Maybe Newt and Thompson are smarter than we give them credit for. By sitting on the sidelines, they avoid this assinine theater production. I just hope the current field of Pubs have enough sense to pass as well.
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Sunday, July, 29, 2007 11:37 PM
Jimmy Carter
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Scottie!!!!
Yer reply to Brian was Fantastic!! I loved every word of it! I kind of think You may have had that response prepared......
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 12:08 AM
Scottie
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Jimmy
nope, I just put it together.
My prepared question was: "When are we gonna see the MSM ask Hillary whether she spits or swallows?", but I thought it a bit too much. Kinda looks like it's possible this cycle though the way things are sinking into the abyss.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 12:10 AM
BrianR
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Yeah, JC and Scottie
That was CLASSIC!
Unfortunately, in this version of Magnificent Seven, I think the American voters are Eli Wallach and the bandidos.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 12:21 AM
Scottie
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For the Nostalgic
http://www.moviegrooves.com/cgi-bin/axs/ax.pl?http://www.moviegrooves.com/m3u/magseven-low-1.m3u
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 12:34 AM
Scottie
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hey Brian
Kinda makes you want to fire up a Marlboro, doesn't it?
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:16 AM
-Kilroy
writes:
Female Northeastern Liberal?!?!
Now just wait one minute there Scottie! Don't go foisting Hillary off on the northeast. We've got enough shameful things to live down all by ourselves. Hilldawg is 100% midwest liberal! Own it, baby. Own it!
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:23 AM
-Kilroy
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Oh and that favorite blog thing
Yeah, I am out there too in a couple of catagories. Last time I checked I had a total of 3 votes per catagory, two of which were my own. Thanks to whomever that 3rd guy was! Picking up one stray voter with zero solicitation was pretty good, I thought.
I am there under Best Humor. Best Political and Best Overall. Not sure what the link is to my profile but if you happen to stumble across me, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT VOTING FOR ME. I mean, my thing is funny sometimes but not THAT funny.
Do, however, continue to come by. I get lonely without visitors *snif snif*
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:29 AM
Scottie
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Kilroy
SLANDER! That fat bottomed girl is no mid-westerner. Technically she's from Arkansas, which is the south if you ask me. In any case, they didn't want her when she was here, and they don't want her back. She's your problem now pal.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:32 AM
Scottie
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I generally ignore Black Tiger
He's like an obnoxious nerdy kid trying too hard to be accepted. I checked his blog. He's got less than 600 hits on his site meter and zero links on his blog roll. I think the word for that is consensus. But I will check out the voting link since Kilroy is on it.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:34 AM
-Kilroy
writes:
EVIL Sock Puppet
Please disregard that last post. My evil sock puppet escaped from my pants; where I keep him purely for security purposes and in no way to ... ummm ... errr. "enhance my profile", so to speak.
I do need to trade him in for a GOOD sock puppet who praises my every utterance instead of thwarting me at every turn. By the way, every post that you don't think funny is written by him. He is absolutely lacking in corrigibility. Not to mention a good punchline.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:36 AM
-Kilroy
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Illinois is the new Mexico
Foisting off it's undesirables to its neighbors and then denying all responsibility.
Looks like we need a bigger fence.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 9:02 AM
-Kilroy
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re: Hillary "Spits or swallows?"
Scottie -- I believe you are operating under a false premise.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 9:18 AM
Scottie
writes:
Kilroy
As a recent emigre from Illinois, I'm taking sole credit/blame for self-deporting. Illinois is basically a red state with a very blue metropolis up north that sucks all the oxygen and resources northward to fund the brilliant political ideas of the Democrats there at the expense of the rest of the state.
If you attribute Hillary to Illinois, then two thirds of the current Dem field are from there.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 9:22 AM
Scottie
writes:
Kilroy
So you think Hillary's answer would be, "Recently?, No!"
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 9:40 AM
Scatbug
writes:
Scottie
Just saw your note on my blog. I have indeed been busy placing all my nuclear appliances in storage. Well...except the toilet. That I'll still need. (Couldn't resist.)
Yep...This You Tube thing is completely idiotic. Why should the Republicans waste their time debating Democrat nutters? To my mind, at this point in the race the candidates should focus on addressing their own voters. After all, they are still running for the nomination, not the presidency. Having said that, once the field is culled (bye Ron Paul!), and especially after the nominations, Republicans may have a hard time refusing something like this.
Now, to address three other points in this post:
1) Jimmy has a crystal ball. No doubt about it. I just hope he's not seduced by its powers, turning to evil ways. But I will definitely be more careful with what I wear around the house.
2) The spit/swallow issue: Didn't she hire Monica to worry about that?
3) As regards the Santa question, the candidate who responds, "I stopped believing in Santa when I was 7 and I see no need to start that up again." has my eternal vote. (Why do I suspect Fred would handle it that way?)
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 10:22 AM
-Kilroy
writes:
Michigan --
An acquaintance who now hails from Michigan calls it a Red, White, and Blue state.
Redneck, White-trash who vote like they are from Massachusetts (i.e., Blue)
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 10:37 AM
Scottie
writes:
Scatbug
1. Jimmys a marvel and we're lucky to have him.
2. I wonder how much else she subcontracts out?
3. I would answer the question with questions. Why are we talking to someone that is obviously delusional? Isn't this the same as taking an Elvis impersonator seriously? Really?
And please do keep your nuclear toilet up and running. It's probably the only waterless model that doesn't smell bad.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 10:39 AM
Scottie
writes:
Kilroy
Michigan is dying right along with those union dominated benefits companies that sell cars to pay for their products. But not to worry, the Muslims are there to take over as the economy collapses.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 10:44 AM
Scottie
writes:
Does Anyone Think
the second ammendment questioner in the last debate was chosen because he actually represents the vast majority of gun owners, or isn't it far more likely his video was chosen because he portrays the Left's charicature of gun owners to a "T"?
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 11:32 AM
BrianR
writes:
LOL, Scottie
I love that theme music. I used to smoke Mayberries.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 11:35 AM
BrianR
writes:
I went to that
link for the blog award thingie, and note that the Island is conspicuously absent.
I am crushed!
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 11:41 AM
Jimmy Carter
writes:
After the first "global warming"
question is asked, any candidate that answers: "It is not the responsibility of The President or any branch of government of The United States of America to affect weather patterns." They have My vote.
By the way, the number of blogs I cover that would be "crystal balls."
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 11:41 AM
Scottie
writes:
Brian
If you didn't make it, I don't feel so bad; not that I had any expectations or was even aware of it before Tiger dropped by. Seems like the only time I hear from him is when he wants something.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 11:50 AM
Scottie
writes:
Jimmy
Well said! I'm looking for a credible candidate that will start eliminating some of this albatross. We could start with the Dept of Education, Dept of Agriculture, half of the staffers on Capitol Hill, Dept of Transportation, Dept of Housing & Urban Development (Aren't Urban Areas already developed? Shouldn't it be Dept of Rural Development?), and if given time, I could come up with a bunch of other Alphabet Depts worthy of being excised.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 2:00 PM
-Kilroy
writes:
Vote for my 9 year old Godson
Yesterday he said if he was president he'd fire half of the government employees and stop the war.
When I asked him how he was gonna do all that he said he'd "attack the bad guys and kill them all" (hence, war stopped). After that he said everyone would be so afraid of him he'd fire all those unnecessary government workers and nobody would complain.
I promised him my vote.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 2:28 PM
voice_of_reason
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Sockpuppet - great analogy!
Scottie, you nailed it! That is exactly why (R) candidates should not agree to the YouTube format - but it is also why that format worked to the advantage of the (D) candidates.
Frankly, in the prevailing environment our side doesn't have much of a chance, because the noise drowns out the reality that THE FACTS AND HISTORICAL DATA ARE ON OUR SIDE! We do have the intellectual ammunition, but it cannot be used in this type of battle. So, we need to change the R.O.E, attack on a different front by MAKING it an intellectual battle.
I think that even BEFORE we have 'primary' debates, we should have serious policy debates THAT DO NOT INVOLVE THE CANDIDATES.
Why? Because we are in a 50-50 country - the country is rudderless, dead in the water (but drifting with a leftward current) on some rather basic issues:
* economics - more govt or less govt
* education - public or private
* law - constitutional or 'legislate from the bench'?
* national security - when is it OK to use our xlnt military?
* American self-interest - e.g. illegal immigration
These are fundamental, and cannot (WILL NOT) be answered in any of the prevailing formats. Nor do the presidential candidates have a viewpoint that matters - when/if they are elected, they will rely on policy advisors and experts.
SO, LETS GET THE EXPERTS TO DEBATE THIS NOW, instead of playing stupid 'gotcha' games, trying to trap clueless candidates (of either side) into making statements that can be used against them. Quite honestly, they are better at this game due to the complicity of the MSM.
Also because they control the 'humor' weapon. Just watch Jon Stewart and Colbert (if you have a strong stomach), and you will see how effective this weapon is. And, you can't counter this weapon with humor (although the Fox channel's Sun 1/2 hr is making a valiant attempt).
Conservatives don't play the 'sneering' game well - and that is actually a good thing, since we are the grown-ups. Leftists are very good at that, and get a lot of traction by making conservatives the butt of their jokes.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 3:03 PM
voice_of_reason
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long post, simple message
If my previous post lacked clarity (and too many capitalizations), sorry.
But, here it is (in a nutshell):
(D)s win when they dumb down the debate; either with the format (a la YouTube, or comedy) or with the participants.
(R)s win when we up-size the intellectual content - leading with the economics behind most issues (education, healthcare, immigration, and yes, even race).
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 3:34 PM
Husker Jeff
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Sock puppets are people too
Why can't lambchop and I have the right to our own opinions? Why are you so cruely attacking us with personal assaults? Have you no heart? Oh the puppetry!!!!!
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 6:44 PM
ShiningCity
writes:
Great minds
think alike.
_____
"When are we gonna see the MSM ask Hillary whether she spits or swallows?".......
*!$!?&
And I thought my site was getting ribald....
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 6:48 PM
Scottie
writes:
Kilroy
Gimme the kids name, I might need a good write in candidte next year. How about that? So simple a nine year old can figure it out.
Great future do I see for him, stong in him the force is. Proud you must be.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 6:54 PM
Scottie
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VOR
Sounds exactly like something I heard Newt propose a couple of months ago. But the left will never go for it, because their ideas don't have any substance to them. As soon as you ask a liberal, "And then what do you think will happen?", all you get is the thousand yard stare and a lot of hemming and hawing. You simply cannot debate with reason against emotion.
Thanks for stopping by, and do come back and share your thoughts with us. You are welcome here.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 6:57 PM
Scottie
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VOR
I share your point of view on the matter. Kinda makes you want to press the schools for a better product, doesn't it.
I've been listening to Hugh Hewitts radio show from last week on my IPod today. He was going thru and playing some of the questions up at YouTube. Talk about ignorance and snark. This is a stupendously bad idea for the Pubs.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 6:58 PM
Scottie
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Husker Jeff
Stick a sock in it!
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 7:02 PM
Scottie
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Shining City
I knew that line would come back to bite me! Too good to resist, a little more risque than I would have liked, but there it is. I apologize Doc, I should have known a lady would come by sooner or later. Mybad.
But did you catch my Magnificent Seven analogy? I even found a clip of the theme music. One of my better flashes of inspiration if I say so myself.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 7:14 PM
BrianR
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Good point, Scottie
It seems that's the only time I hear from him, too.
And he's ON my Blog Roll.
I may have to reconsider that.
Kinda cynically marketing himself, like that guy Steve of the self-appointed TH Blog Critic fame.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 7:18 PM
Scottie
writes:
Brian and I are Dinosaurs
We remember:
Refundable deposits on soda bottles,
Five cent candy bars
Cigarette comercials on TV
Vinyl records and eight track tapes
Dial telephones
Playing war with the other boys in the neighborhood
Dodge ball
Kill the guy with the ball!
Bicycling without helmets or padding
And if he's a real old time California boy, Orange Groves and Strawberry fields as far as the eye could see dotted with quaint little towns, like Anaheim, Orange, Garden Grovfe, and Fountain Valley.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 7:42 PM
Nee
writes:
Scottie
Go over to this link and scroll down to the photo that says "reclaiming dignity". Have a great laugh. This is what the right will be looking like for a long time!!
http://www.charisma-art.com/business_art_cards/
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 7:50 PM
ShiningCity
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A lady
It is my honor to be called "a lady" by your sort.
I wouldn't say the line "bit you" exactly, but I did have to stop and go back and re-read to see if it said what I thought it said. Then, It made me laugh out loud.
And your magnificient seven analogy only improved on your brazen quality to speak such about Ms. Clinton. (Next time, include something about Mr. Guiliani's affection for slingbacks.)
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:03 PM
ShiningCity
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Scottie
the silence you hear is the people from Arkansas sneaking up behind you with a piece of wire for your comment about the native from Illinois.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:40 PM
Scottie
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Nee
Too funny! See if you can find one like that depicting a RhINO and you'll be the toast of the Town(hall). As they say in Cajun country, I guaranteeeeee!
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:53 PM
Scottie
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Shining City
Perhaps one of the best things about conservativism is it instills a reverence for hard work, intellectual acheivment, and sacrifice to be a part of something elite. I find it difficult to imagine a profession more worthy of such reverence than yours. If anyone ever wants to meet people that will give them hope for the future, they should visit a medical school. Truly exceptional people.
Usually the best way to convey respect is to address people by their titles, but since you really are one of the gang now, I think recognizing you as a lady is an acceptable proxy for calling you Doc.
As for the slingbacks, no challenge shooting fish in a barrel.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 8:59 PM
Scottie
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Shining City
"the silence you hear is the people from Arkansas sneaking up behind you with a piece of wire for your comment about the native from Illinois."
You've been over at Sandra's listening to "Democrats are Boogymen" stories haven't you? Indiana is a "will issue" state, my dear. As a result, we don't quake in fear of interlopers from Arkansas. Besides, Hillary is a big girl; if she can't handle that, she should just go home; if she knows where that is.
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Monday, July, 30, 2007 10:07 PM
ch47 jockey
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the youtube "debates"
Might as well ask your most violent rival to stand behind you with a stiletto while blindfolded. It would be a complete ambush. It still amazes me that when the dems boycott Fox it is considered a justified thing but if the R's boycott the you tube thing it will be shown as out of touch or cowardice. Scottie the mental picture one of your comments seared into my mind will cause me to have nightmares for some time.
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Tuesday, July, 31, 2007 8:50 AM
Scottie
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Chopper Man
Good to see you back buddy. Sorry for the mental picture, but it was too good a line to pass up. And given her partner's predilictions, you just gotta know it's been an issue at some point. Every time you hear the phrase "Leader of the Free World", you should recall that image.
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Tuesday, July, 31, 2007 10:42 AM
ShiningCity
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Scottie
I appreciate the kind words regarding my profession. Still, if given a choice, I'll take Lady over Doc anyday, especially when it's imparted from someone who actually knows what a lady is. So, thanks....
RE: HC...for some reason, I thought you were in Illinois.....
na, I haven't been at the Democrat/boogeyman site. Have been there a few times--seems nice, but different from me.
Gotta do some work. I've been fiddling around too much in the townhall lately and not getting work done.
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Tuesday, July, 31, 2007 10:59 AM
Edamon50
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I agree
Letting them pick the questions is about as fair as letting terrorists decide the rules of war! No one with a bit of brains thnks that answering questions submitted by the YouTube crowd, and picked by CNN is anything other than a setup. The Democrats get red meat questions for the nutroots while the GOP gets the shaft!
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Tuesday, July, 31, 2007 1:47 PM
Scottie
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Shining City
I moved to Indiana when I married my beloved. Before that I was in Illinois.
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Tuesday, July, 31, 2007 1:48 PM
Scottie
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Flagwaver
So good of you to drop by and contribute here. What can I say, you boiled my article down to less than a paragraph.
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Tuesday, July, 31, 2007 5:08 PM
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you have to come to my update
And see what my friend said about this issue.
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Tuesday, July, 31, 2007 6:18 PM
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Where's Mudgeon?
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Tuesday, July, 31, 2007 6:30 PM
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Haven't seen him this past week
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Hey Scottie!
In the dem Youtube debate, I was waiting for someone to ask the Breck Girl "what kind of hairspray do you use?"...that's about as deep as Youtube gets in debates...:)
A question for Shrill that would have been interesting: "does Bill wear trunks or speedos"? and..."did you have botox or a facelift"? and "what did you do with all that Chinese money?"...
As to the GOP and a Youtube debate...in my opinion it would be a total waste! LOL
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Wednesday, August, 01, 2007 7:20 AM
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OMG! We actually agree on something. I'm stunned, in a good sort of way. Always good to see you over here at the Heartland. Aren't you due for a new post?
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