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Comment on: What Grinds my Gears?

Should we be Religious?

11 Comments

CK

You've made some very good points. I don't agree that taking God out of the schools has been the reason for increased problems. I think that is a result of taking God out of the homes and sending to school children who put themselves above everyone and everything else, children who have no moral code so no responsibility.
One point you left out was GREED. What secularism has led to is selfishness and greed.
And I think greed is one of the main forces in the country today...it sure is in Congress!

emjayne

fair enough. I could have added that in, but I wrote this in more of a 'spur of the moment'. Taking God out of schools has had an impact in my opinion. When you take God out of schools, the kids who don't have any moral code at home, don't have it at school either and never learn to develop it. They then have kids and since they never learned it, they never teach it..etc etc. I do believe that sort of moral teachings has to be done in the home, but I think school is the next best place.

CK

Not being a religious person I disagree with your pegging the Christians as the ones holding the backbone straight but I write on the fly too and will cut you some slack. I most certainly have a moral code that more than likely is part of my early formative years where I did go to church occasionally. However I think there was more to it than that but it certainly didn't hurt. As for taking God out of schools or even out of the home that has increased many of these problems I suggest that taking Mom out of the home has done more harm than good. I think taking her out of the home has also contributed to the greed that emjayne talks about.

When I was a kid we pledged allegiance to the flag everyday, we also said the lords prayer (I went to a private non denominational school). Kids don't do that anymore. And that is too bad.

Redhead

Notice I did say that there were people with a good moral code that weren't Christians. I believe in majority though, my case stands true.

My sister is in 10th grade and most of the class does not do the pledge of allegiance in the morning when it comes on, that is sad.

I do agree with taking mom out of the house. It is a matter of choice for some women and some it is a necessity, in working. I would hope that any woman that could stay home, does, but that isn't going to happen. Women want careers too and who is anyone to stop them.

Where's the argument: "its for the children" on that one? haha

Thanks for stopping by.

CK

With great power comes great responsibility.
~Uncle Ben, Spiderman Comics


For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."
~Luke, chapter 12, verse 48

I believe that our Founding Fathers expected the citizens to be informed and have a "moral compass". The freedoms we have are greater than any country before us has ever had. Therefore the above two quotes I believe are appropriate.

But I also believe that the Founding Fathers also believed that these same citizens would acknowledge a "Higher Authority". This "Higher Authority" provides the "moral compass" needed to deal with the great responsibility we as citizens of the USA have (again see the above two quotes).

Regardless of what the Liberals believe, our entire set of laws has its background in the Jewish/Christian laws stated in the Old and New Testaments.

So yes, I agree with you CK that "we should be religious" in as much as acknowledging that there is a God or in understanding that our laws are a direct result of the Jewish/Christian belief system.

Gray Ghost

Thanks for stopping by.

That is, more or less, exactly what I was getting at in my article. A religious belief gives us a base for our morals to be built upon. Without that base, our population would lack moral code and that sort of population would not work with our constitution. Our freedoms are too great.

CK

One thing that I think has a lot to do with secularism is entertainment...movies, music, TV, etc. I don't know if the people in charge of these are out to destroy the morals of our country or if their efforts to make money have just resulted in that. But the sex and violence in all of the entertainment venues are exposing the youth of this country to a lousy view of life and morality.
Another thing, although it may be part of the above, is the influence of homosexuals in all aspects of entertainment, but particularly the movies.
I am thinking of other things that are contributing but that's enough for the minute.
:-)))

emjayne

I do agree that those things are harming the morals of people in this country. I believe a root of that problem comes back to being religious and having a moral standard to live by. If our country was full of people that were religious, at least in the way of living by the moral codes of their religion, these movies would not do as well since many people would reject them. If their movies don't do as well, they will eventually have to stop making those types of movies in favor of movies that the masses would support.

Good observation and thanks for the comment.

CK

There you have it! If people weren't buying the profit would be gone and the market wouldn't be glutted with the filth.
So you may be right about the lack of religion being at the root of the problem.
A combination of greed and the lowering of morals in many ways is producing the atmosphere in the country.

emjayne

There are other types of problems or course. For example, people today lack the sense of honor people of yesteryear had, but that is a totally different discussion in itself.

Thanks for the chat and Ill hope to have a new post up soon. Im going to have to jump over to your blog as well.

CK

Yes I can see the lack of honor having a lot to do with it.
I haven't done anything original in my blog lately. I keep finding quotes that say what I want to say so much better than I can say it. :-)