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"one eighty"
Dem Debate a Screaming Success
155 Comments
Friday, April, 27, 2007 4:15 PM
Scatbug
writes:
My one observation
Unfortunately I was unable to watch the debate. I spent the evening whacking myself in the head with a croquet mallet. I felt that was a much better use of my time.
But...That doesn't mean I can't comment. Dean Barnett posted Obama's response to the "what would you have the military do if terrorists attacked" question. I could not imagine that any serious candidate would say something so infinitely idiotic. He actually brought up Katrina! I left a couple of comments over there if you're interested. But the gist was that Obama has no choice but to nominate Ray Nagin for SecDef.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 4:24 PM
Sheila
writes:
Scatbug!
"I spent the evening whacking myself over the head with a croquet mallet"...I'm cracking up...better time spent...I can attest to that!
You should definitely be Barack's political advisor...choosing Negan for SecDef is perfect! Sharpton and Jackson would feel better about Obama's potential win, if the mayor of "chocolate city" as Negan called it, were an appointee.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 5:39 PM
SLW
writes:
Just the sound
of Hillary's voice gives me the shivers. I can't imagine listening to that for 8 years!
It will be worse than Scatbug's mallet. Can I borrow it, Scatbug?
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 5:42 PM
SLW
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BTW,
I love your three points. 1) Agree 2) yes!
3) Hard to do, but mission accomplished.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 5:51 PM
Sheila
writes:
Sandra
I think I would be needing a padded cell after the inauguration...
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 6:01 PM
Sheila
writes:
And thanks,
Regarding the dem candidates...it's pretty easy to spot those "sheep in wolves clothing"...:)
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 8:06 PM
Cynewulf
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The good thing about the Democrat party
is that even when they have everything going for them, they find ways to shoot themselves in the foot. They can't help it. They know they should resist the urge to tell America what they really think, but like a leech drawn to blood, they can't help it. Thankfully, the long election season gives them plenty of time to get lots of shots off at that poor foot. Then the recriminations will begin: How did we lose? Then they'll come up with their trusty answer, "We didn't get our message out" (i.e. we didn't hide it well enough).
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 9:04 PM
Sheila
writes:
Cyne
Interesting analysis..."like a leach drawn to blood they can't help it"...funny.
So you don't think revealing their true leftism is due to over confidence, after the 06 election, and them feeling invincible, thinking they can be who they really are?
I love your comments about the usual "we didn't get our message out" sob story...(ie we didn't hide it well enough")... ha...you nailed it.
Well, I feel encouraged about 08, hearing your thoughts...:)
Thanks for stopping by.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 9:19 PM
davecatbone
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Scatbug, Sheila, Cyne, Sandra
I spent the evening poking myself in the eye with a stick. But only after I watched the first ten minutes of the debate. They were smart enough to telecast it on MSMNBC, a place they can really let it all hang out. But seriously folks, I got ill, wretched, and had to leave the room to go outside and look for that stick. Just imagine the questions Chris Wallace would have asked.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 9:31 PM
Sheila
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dave...
Ha...I'm laughing...sorry it was that painful... and then I have to go and bring it up...
Oh well, I guess because they felt so warm and fuzzie, they did let it all hang out, and maybe just a bit too much...
Chris Wallace ...yeah we can dream...
Hope you'll have time to recover over the weekend. Just don't watch any of the Sunday shows...;)
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 9:56 PM
Cynewulf
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Sheila,
I think it's over confidence, but not because of the last election (though, that just fed the fire); I think it's an over-confidence born from hubris of thinking that they are the intellectual elite and the rest of us are just here to be governed by them (it's where the "how am I losing to this guy"s come from). That and knowing that the MSM has your back.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 9:57 PM
Cynewulf
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DCat,
"They were smart enough to telecast it on MSMNBC, a place they can really let it all hang out."
i.e. a place where few but die hard lefties will see them anyway.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 10:13 PM
Scatbug
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Sunday shows??
Sheila...I've got a low voltage electrocution device for those programs. (Army surplus from Gitmo. The deluxe Dick Cheney model.)
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 10:14 PM
Scatbug
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Sandra
I'm thinking of marketing special edition croquet mallets for the '08 campaign. You'll have first pick off the production line.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 10:26 PM
Jimmy Carter
writes:
I couldn't watch...
..the "debates" because I couldn't find a mallet, stick, or any "low voltage" device with which to take away the pain from listening to them...and I like my golf clubs too much....
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 11:04 PM
Peppermint
writes:
Sheila
I did not watch either because I didn't want to beat my dog afterwards from the rage I would feel hearing the nutwits' lies and approbation.
However, I did see clips on Fox. Hillary got an A+ for using the word "Retaliate" if we were to experience another 9/11.
One of your other posters mentioned BO. He and Edwards answered weakly, mostly emphasizing exactly what I expected and therefore I was not let down.
They both said something to the effect that they would have to look at our bad intelligence, our bad homeland security, no after attack plan,etc. In other words, blame Bush.
If BO and Edwards say they can look back and blame Bush, does that mean they are admitting that an attack is imminent right after they are elected? Because they had "no time" as POTUS to fix Bush's "mistakes"?
If so, then BO and Edwards have made the case for us that either one of them needs to be POTUS.
If this is the scenario, that we are attacked right after the dims take control, that also means the enemy knew all along to wait until the weakest on defense was in office.
The radical Islamists already know what so many people in this country do not know or refuse to see. The dims, especially BO and Edwards would sit there, wondering who is to blame, before they did anything about being attacked. All they could do apparently is point to GW.
That won't fly in 2009.
Hillary has flip flopped so many times on the Iraq war I don't know how I could believe her when she says she would "retaliate". It is possible, but how do I believe a woman with more personalities and more differing beliefs that Sybil.
From the clips I saw BO and Edwards looked pathetic. Sorry, but those two metrosexual boys don't do it for me. If I want someone to run the WOT, I'm looking for a "MAN" to run it.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 11:09 PM
Peppermint
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btw
Just so no one takes me seriously I would never beat my dog under any circumstances. Uh, er, in case any PETA folks come here, just an FYI.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 11:11 PM
Peppermint
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Cynewulf
Howard Dean doesn't want any of their debates televised on MSM because they wouldn't give the dims fairness. Ha! Ha! Ha! OMG, these libdolts make me laugh. They can't go on on public TV. No one would vote for them if they actually knew what they stood for. Lots of luck for them when the real debates start. I suppose they won't debate at all.
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 11:45 PM
Sheila
writes:
Cyne
So you think it's just the usual elitist attitude... that we're the dolts they should be governing...and "knowing that the MSM has your back"...
A pretty picture you paint...sounds like the kind of people we can really trust with the future of the country...
You are very perceptive...
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 11:55 PM
Sheila
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Also, Cyne
Yeah, your comment to dave..."the place where few but diehard lefties will see them anyway"...no kidding...it's not exactly where I go to get the news...maybe a few laughs.:)
I wonder if anyone on the right could have gotten away with Biden's glib answer to the question posed to him...think Brian Williams would have smiled and let it pass?
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Friday, April, 27, 2007 11:57 PM
Peppermint
writes:
Sheila
Do I detect a little sarcasm in that last comment to Cyne?
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:03 AM
Peppermint
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Sheila
Are you still speaking to me?
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:06 AM
Cynewulf
writes:
Pep,
yeah, that's the ye olde classic, "No I don't! You do!" tactic. The MSM's not left leaning! They're right leaning! And because the MSM is left leaning, they never have to provide any proof for their accusations.
As for debates, why do we have moderators who ask questions. It always goes something like this:
Moderator: What would you do if another 9/11 type attack occurred on American soil?
Senator: I'm glad you asked that question. I was thinking about that the other day while I was working on a bill that would help school children get at least 3 square meals a day. Did you know that there are some schools where some of the kids have resorted to eating their homework because they are under fed? Now, thankfully, these kids get free or reduced lunches and breakfasts, but what about the main meal of the day? Dinner? My Bill proposes that dinners be provided at schools and that at least one meal a day will be provided on saturday and sunday. I -
Moderator: Governor, what would you do?
Governor: I'm glad you asked that question ...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:07 AM
Sheila
writes:
Scatbug
"low voltage electrocution device"...ha ha...I'm cracking up...there's a great visual...I can just picture Mrs Scatbug and the Scatlings diving for the floor as you hit the button...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:13 AM
Sheila
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And Scatbug
Your comment to Sandra...you're definitely up to your usual comedic form, Scat, I love it...Sandra will be pleased to hear of your marketing idea...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:14 AM
Cynewulf
writes:
Sheila,
I think politicians in general are ill suited to running our country, but those that are intent on making our country over in their image of utopia where, in their fevered imaginings, Soviet era communism melds effortlessly with rampant hedonism, are particularly a danger to the continuence of this great country.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:18 AM
Sheila
writes:
Jimmy
Oh well, glad to hear you spared your golf clubs...;)that would have been an expensive mallet substitute...maybe for the next debate you can be prepared ahead of time and have a traquilizer handy...or a bottle of gin...:)
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:33 AM
Sheila
writes:
Hey Pep...
"didn't want to beat my dog afterwards"...haaaaa!
"Hillary...A+...for using the word "retaliate"...yeah...I think the worse thing I heard was that that comment was Reaganesque!!!Talk about an insult to Reagan's legacy!
I thought Edwards looked like a girl...wasn't it a lib feminist that said he would be our first woman president?...:)His $400.00 hairdo was sweet!
You said it Pep, these people are a joke, and for sure the jihadists are waiting for any of these weaklings to get elected...they did make the case, as you say...
Hillary..."more personalities than Sybil"...too funny...you wouldn't be refering to her new selma accent, now would ya?
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:37 AM
Sheila
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Btw
I knew you weren't serious about kicking the dog, but glad you covered your bases for any possible PETA snoops on TH...:)
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:42 AM
Sheila
writes:
And Pep,
They should be embarrassed that they canceled the Fox debate...they are really gutsy aren't they...
They can't face Fox news, but they are qualified to run the country...uhuh...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:52 AM
Sheila
writes:
Pep
I missed your previous comment about "sarcasm in my comment" to Cyne...ya think?...:)
And, why on earth would I not be talking to you?;) Of course I'm still talking to you!
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 1:07 AM
Sheila
writes:
Cyne
I just lost a comment...
I'll try again...hate it when that happens...
Your comments about the way they answered questions was classic...I don't think we got a straight answer out of any of them...
Loved the one about the kids having eaten their homework...Hahaha! Good one Cyne...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 1:22 AM
Peppermint
writes:
Sheila
Yeah, the dims think they are qualified to run the country but good grief, let's keep their agenda out of the public eye. Don't go on MSM and let everyone know what you're really about.
I was just joking about not speaking to me. LOL
The Breck girl looks and talks like a little faggot just like Ann Coulter said. He is a big joke.
That BO is nothing but a hyperbolic throw back from the 60's.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 2:25 AM
Sheila
writes:
Pep
I think Obama came off the most smooth, and conversational...he could wind up being their nominee. Hill is just too caustic, and the rest are, well, duds.
Obama is an empty suit, but smooth, which is a scary combination, when you're thinking of leader of the free world.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 4:20 AM
Scatbug
writes:
Sheila
Obama as leader of the free world...
Well, I'm sure with him as president there would be less of it to lead. So perhaps he'd have an easier time keeping tabs on things.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 8:03 AM
davecatbone
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Bizzarro world
So I turn on the tv last night, random surf, and here's Fred Thompson on Law and Order. When juxtaposed against the Dem debates, the situation seems surreal.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 8:49 AM
Peppermint
writes:
Sheila
You are so dead on about BO. He reminds me of the smooth operator. I've known guys like this, you go out on a date with them, they are smooth and come across as charismatic, but once you get to really know them, they are all words, nothing else, hoping you'll be sucked in.
BO does the same. He is all words and lots of people are being sucked in. Too bad they didn't date any of these smooth operators and find out for themselves what these kinds are like in reality.
Scatbug is right. BO would have a lot less world left to deal with. I can imagine his statement after Israel is wiped off the map:
"We now all will have to bow our heads in sorrow, but tomorrow let's all climb that hill to a better day. I have hope that we can surpass this tragedy and move on. Now, my plan for the next abortion clinic......"
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 11:12 AM
BrianR
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And yet another medal for you
First Moyers, now the Dem debate.
Are you a glutton for punishment, or what? Is there a streak of masochism in there that you're hiding?
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:12 PM
Sheila
writes:
Scatbug
"less to lead"...ha! Now there's a positive spin to a negative scenario! A minimalist administration and world!...:)
Based on how he answered the question about how he would handle a potential attack on our soil, he'd call out FEMA, instead of the military...and then he'd get out the peace pipes...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:18 PM
Sheila
writes:
dave
"Bizarro world"...yeah, quite a contrast...sureal indeed. FT definitely has the "gravitas"! Think the MSM would be kinder to him, or would they continue in the attack mode?
Wonder if he's going to run...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:23 PM
SLW
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Sheila:
What Hillary didn't say and should have said is: "We'll retaliate and then pull our troops out as soon as the going gets tough."
Some funny stuff going on here!
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:28 PM
Sheila
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Pep,
Ha!Ha! You've dated "smooth talkers" like Obama...that's funny...sounds like you have his number...
Sad to say, your scenario with Israel, and his potential response, probably isn't too far fetched...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:29 PM
SLW
writes:
I love the
new name for B. Hussein Obama, B.O. There is a smell about him.
I wonder if he could be the "real" Manchurian Candidate? He was educated in those "madrases."
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:40 PM
Sheila
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BrianR
Yes, I guess it sounds like I'm into self torture...
Maybe I should get more serious about my mental health...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:45 PM
Sheila
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Sandra
Wow, now there's a theory..."the Manchurian Candidate"..."trained in the madrassas"...this could get really hairy...:)
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 12:50 PM
Sheila
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And Sandra
I missed your Hillary coment...hahaha! She should have said "We'll retaliate and pull the troops out as soon as the going gets tough"...very demi...I seriously doubt she would have the guts to retaliate...she's just trying to sound tough...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 2:36 PM
Sheila
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Btw, Sandra
Have been enjoying your CD today...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 3:11 PM
Virginia Daddy
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Sheila
One word: No.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 3:14 PM
SLW
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Thanks, sis.
BTW, how do we spell "madrases"? I say madrases, you say madrassas...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 3:17 PM
SLW
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Virginia Daddy:
And I say, no way, Jose!
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 4:23 PM
BrianR
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In Farsi
the word for school is "madrassai", pronounced mah-dra-sigh.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 4:27 PM
Sheila
writes:
VDaddy
That's definitive!Ha! :) I guess we know where you stand...
The gang is in California today...
Hill says she wants to be in on the climate change issue, like her pal Boxer... (to cut back on our freedoms)...of course she didn't say it quite like that...to "save the planet", naturally...all the "good intentions" of the left that mean nothing...
as if there is one thing she or anyone else could do to "save the planet"...I think that's above her pay grade...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 4:35 PM
Sheila
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Sandra, Brian
Sandra: Mad rassa?...sounds about right...:)
Brian: Thanks for the lesson in Farsi...:)
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 4:39 PM
Sheila
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Brian
Did you see my comment at Sandra's? You missed out on some "TH inside scoop" while you were away from the blogs...the "tag" game, which revealed a lot about our fellow bloggers...maybe you should do your next blog on what you would have told us about yourself, that we don't already know...6 things, or like VDaddy, 12!
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 4:51 PM
BrianR
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Sheila: Yes, saw it
And added. You should take a peak.
Yikes!
Not sure I would have much to say, and most of what I could write about is already out there.
The Farsi lesson, above, is a good example. I spent five years in Iran, went to HS there, my Mom was born and raised there (she's Armenian, now American).
There! That's my sharing quota for the day.
Month.
Maybe year.
Lifetime?
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 5:05 PM
Sheila
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Brian
Yes you have shared quite a bit about yourself...even that studdly picture!:)
You have had quite an interesting life, that's for sure, and obviously you have a lovely daughter you are extremely proud of. Did you say she was getting married soon?
Also, Brian, is your mother happy here in the US, and how does she feel about all that is going on over there in her part of the world? Hope that isn't getting too personal...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 5:17 PM
Sheila
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Btw, Brian
I mentioned on Sandra's blog that we are quite independent in our thoughts, though we are sisters...
Yes, it's weird...she told me about TH and that we should blog "together", but I wasn't interested, so she went ahead, and she wound up talking me into starting my own blog...the rest is history...it's been quite fun, needless to say.
When you first posted on my blog I had no idea I could respond to you on my blog...I had no idea what I was doing...:)
I remember one night around midnight, I couldn't sleep, and I clicked onto your blog, and all your "friends" on TH were having a typical back and forth...I was dying laughing.
I think I actually mentioned that on your blog that night...and mentioned what a great writer you were...funny how now I feel like I know you after all these months...and the rest of the original TH folks, plus all the great new bloggers! It's an interesting world, the blogs.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 6:01 PM
gently99
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Great bunch of
people show up on this tight collection of blogs. Brian, Jimmy, Cynewulf,Scotty and others. What a great party it would be if all showed up at the same eatery some day. You never fail to dispel that feeling of i'm the only voter who cares about something more important than Imus or Anna Nicole Smith. Abundance and affluence just seem to drain away most people's sense of priority and value. I started talking to my wife about the consequences of deserting Iraq, and the possibility this would embolden the Jihadis into some move, such as attacking Israel with nukes, that would lead to that sea of glass. She stopped me, didn't want to discuss anything "so horrible". So many people have never had to face hard reality. These are the natural supporters of slick pols like O Hussein B.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 6:26 PM
Sheila
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Gently 99
Thanks for stopping by with your thoughts, and comments! I dont think I've seen you on TH before!
It's quite an "eclectic" group...and we don't always agree, as you've probably noticed...:)
My husband was suggesting the other day that we should have TH "family reunion"...it would be quite a kick if we all showed up at the same eatery...you're welcome to join us:)
It is difficult to consider the serious world issues we face today...it can be quite terrifying to think about.
I happen to be one who believes God has his hand in the things of earth, so I always go back to the fact that He has ultimate control...but in the meantime it's pretty scary...
I can understand how people would not want to deal with it.
As far as BHO, he will probably snow a lot of people...
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 7:37 PM
SLW
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Gently 99:
Welcome to our fun and crazy world. Even though we disagree sometimes and are discussing very serious issues, we manage to have some fun.
I doubt any of us will ever meet in person. One of the bloggers is my neighbor in an adjacent town and we have never met.
We've just had our first big family argument over at my place, but we've kissed and made up.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 8:12 PM
BrianR
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Sheila: LOL
Yeah, I remember that-- you were such a lost little newbie everyone took pity on you. It was a real Kodak moment.
BTW, thank you for your kind words.
My little girl is getting married in September. Maybe. It's all going to depend on what I say at the end of the aisle when the pastor says "Who gives this woman away?".
I'll probably look around and snarl, "Yeah! Who?", whip out my .45, and take the room hostage.
Maybe not.
Mom, of course, loves it here. I'm 58, to give you an idea of how long she's been here, because I was born here. Still hasn't totally lost her accent, though. But I remember a couple years ago asking her what language she thinks in, and she said English, so that really says it all, I suppose.
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Saturday, April, 28, 2007 8:14 PM
BrianR
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Gently99: Y'know, that's a great point
I don't recall EVER seeing anyone mention poor Anna Nicole, other that the way you did, as an example of the totally irrelevant. And the Imus "flap" sure never did make the convo agenda, either.
Great observation; hadn't occurred to me.
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 1:59 AM
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If Iran Nukes Israel
there will be peace in the middle east, permanently. I can't imagine Israel going down without launching a missle at Cairo, Ryad, Teherran, and Damascus from their submarines on their way out. A caliphate of cockroaches on a sea of glass. And the Islamists that remain will truly be back in the seventh century.
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 2:04 AM
Scottie
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What is Edwards Thinking?
Is this nation so morally bankrupt it will seriously consider electing an ambulance chaser that got rich by exploiting the tragedy of greiving parents and innocent doctors by using junk science? Really? YGBSM!
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 10:41 AM
davecatbone
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Scottie
If Iran nukes Isreal, and the before mentioned countries are destroyed, I feel there would be a huge power vaccuum, and China, Russia and the USA would have to move to claim the area's resources. This would bring us dangerously close to a real world war, that would affect everyone's safety here in the USA. China hasn't been spending all that money on it's military for nothing. What say you?
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 12:15 PM
Scottie
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DaveCat
I think it would be too late for the major powers to do much of anything. If a nuke falls in Tel Aviv, Israel's sub force is pretty much in an Omega Man situation with absolutely nothing to lose by immediate massive retaliation. And if you're gonna go out, taking as many as you can with you on your way down certainly sounds consistent with Israel's ideology. I don't see how anyone could stop it, and I don't think the response would be in any way a measured one. It's also hard to imagine the great powers entering into a great battle over a radioactive wasteland with overwhelming humanitarian baggage. But if either of us is correct, the potential danger posed by a nuclear Iran is still obvious.
As for China's military buildup, it's a concern for sure. I've only begun to look into it, so I'll have to check to the dealer on this issue for now.
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 12:36 PM
BrianR
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Sheila, et al
I have a new essay going up on the Island later today.
Controversial topic guaranteed to generate much interesting conversation.
How's that for modesty?
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 12:46 PM
Sheila
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Sandra
What WOULD happen if our TH fam showed up at the same eatery?...
We might leave never speaking to each other again!...:)
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 12:56 PM
Sheila
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BrianR
Yeah those were the days...glad you TH experts took pitty on me...:)
And...you're welcome.
As to fathers and daughters...it must be difficult to let go...they grow up, and go off and get married...every father's challenge...letting their little girl grow up...
Sounds like your mother has gone through the process I did coming from another country...after living in Brazil, and speaking Portuguese all my life, it took years before I started dreaming in English...:)
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 12:58 PM
SLW
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Sheila:
That could happen!
Hey, let the debates go on... I've got a new one up (controversial) and so does Brian.
I say, let's debate and try to keep labels and attacks under control, by both sides.
Let's have some fun.
It seems that we are all advertising on your blog. It's because you have so many intelligent readers.
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 1:04 PM
Sheila
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Scottie,
I believe Israel will pre-emt an attack, when she sees an imminent threat...Israel has survived because God has not removed His protective hand, and He will not let Israel be eliminated from the planet.
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 1:07 PM
Sheila
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And Scottie
As to Edwards...he is the epidemy of what it means to be a charlatan...
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 1:11 PM
Sheila
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dave
China and Russia are definitely "sleepers" on the world scene, and I agree with you, their role will not be a positive one for the US...
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 1:24 PM
Sheila
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Scottie
I'm going check out Bill Gertz's book " The China Threat"...quite an eye opener from what I heard when he was on a talk show discussing it...you might want to check it out too...sounds very informative...and frightening.
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 1:26 PM
Sheila
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Brian, Sandra
Wow, sounds like I need to head over to check out your latest controversial blogs! I'm there!:)
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 2:12 PM
Peppermint
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Sheila
I just posted Chapter 17 of the diary on my blog.
When you get a chance come on over.
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 3:38 PM
BrianR
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It's up
"The Mayor and the Governator"
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 3:45 PM
Sheila
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Pep
The TH Fiction queen strikes again!:)
I'm there!
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 3:46 PM
Sheila
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BrianR
Uh oh....I see an argument bruing...:)Coming over in a sec...
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 7:27 PM
BrianR
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Sheila: Argument?
Or discussion?
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Sunday, April, 29, 2007 8:47 PM
Sheila
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Ooops, I meant
discussion, sorry, Brian...:)
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 1:09 AM
BrianR
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Sheila: LOL
Lesse....
LotsO'Love?
or Laugh out loud?
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 1:53 AM
Sheila
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Brian
I lost my blog somehow, so will have to repost...
:)
Had to be out tonight, so am just now checking back in.
LOL...(which ever)
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 11:12 AM
BrianR
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Sheila: Yikes
I wrote this to you over at Sandra's too. A suggestion, if I may.
If you write your essay in Word, and save it on your hard drive, then just copy and paste into the TH essay box, if things go south you still have the work saved on your computer. You can then just copy and paste it again into your blog.
The horse is already gone, but this way you won't lose another one.
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 11:21 AM
Sheila
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Thanks Brian
I appreciate the info. I think I basically have it in my head, so if I repost, it'll be close to what I wrote before...thanks:)
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 1:23 PM
Sheila
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Btw, Brian
I'm working on the post...I'm not the best techie around...I'm really bad with computor stuff. Uhg.
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 3:52 PM
BrianR
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Sheila
All the more reason to do it in Word, then just copy it into the blog.
BTW, my answer to you at my place is pretty funny, IMHO (In My Humble Opinion), if you want to take a look.
But then, I'm a legend in my own mind.
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 4:22 PM
Sheila
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Brian, yeah
I'll do that as soon as I can get around to it...it's the most frustrating thing ever, to lose a post and all the time...:(
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 4:26 PM
Sheila
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Plus, the fact is
it was a brilliant point, if I may say so myself...:)
The dems continue to amaze me with their brazen behavior...power gets them giddy, and they do really stupid things...
Be right over...
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 4:52 PM
Sheila
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Brian the humble
I saw your answer...:) quite funny, I must say...it's nice to know we have such humility running rampant on TH.
But seriously, the socialist dems will probably make our blogs go poof, if they ever get control of the reigns of power in the Legislative and Executive braches of government, because then they will also control the Judicial.
Not a pretty picture when you have craven power mongers ruling...just a thought for your brilliant mind...:)
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 6:31 PM
BrianR
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Sheila the Computer Guru
LOL
Yeah, hey, no argument from me there. I don't think you've ever seen me anywhere promote the idea of voting for THEM!
There are factions out there as we speak that are looking to control the web for many things: political content, adult content, taxes on internet sales. It drives them all nuts, this medium of free and unregulated commerce in ideas, services and products.
God, nothing tickles me more than the mental image of political hacks tearing their hair out in rage and frustration.
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 7:24 PM
Sheila
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Brian
Guru here...:) LOL (as in ha!)
speaking of "hacks"...
I saw you somewhere mentioning the "political hacks" that "give us the nominee", and I was wondering what you meant, because the nominee gets selected in the primaries...by the voters...and once they have worked, gotten the votes, and raised the money, THEN the party throws their support behind the person that wins the primaries.
So how is it that the "party hacks" pick the nominee? :)
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 7:27 PM
Sheila
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I also saw Cyne mention Dole
wondering how he got the nomination...I didn't comment at the time, but he did win the primaries, and it was a close race agaisnt Slick...if I recall, didn't Perrot play a role again in that race, splitting the vote?
I saw Dole in San Diego,, and in Portland when we were on vacation there...he was quite impressive in person.
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 8:45 PM
SLW
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You are right,
Perot ran twice and got Clinton elected twice. The Republican base was mad at the party so they supported him,"What's new pussycat? ohuhoh..."
If either Bush or Dole had gotten the Perot vote, they would have won.
Now, I can hear Brian saying...but we needed Clinton to get Newt...well that didn't last long!
I explain that in my blog, "Newt, not conservative enough?"
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 8:47 PM
SLW
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I'm still waiting
for Brian to name the party hacks and tell us how they can hand us a candidate....
Why do we have primaries in every state, if that is the case?
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 9:45 PM
Sheila
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Sandra
Yeah...that's what I thought.
Ha, guess we are rather fickle, aren't we?
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 9:50 PM
Sheila
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And Sandra
It is an interesting term...I'm trying to figure out how it fits with the concept of primaries...:)
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 11:26 PM
BrianR
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Lemme 'splain it to chu, Lucy
The infamous party hacks are those that encourage, fund, supply, and make possible the campaigns of their favorites. Yes, there's a primary, but before the primary there are people who are "throwing their hats in the ring", and how does that happen? The party hacks have given them the blessing and support they need to start campaigning. Here's a different kind of example.
Last year here in California a very solid conservative ran against Feinstein in the race for Senator, Republican Dick Mountjoy. But because the party hacks had decided that there was no way for Mountjoy to win, they gave him absolutely no funding or support of any kind. It was absolutely outrageous.
Why do you think you hear nothing about Tancredo? The hacks hate him; he rocks the boat; he's a real conservative and holds peoples' feet to the fire; worse yet, he does what he says he's going to do; worst of all, he's anti-amnesty.
So there you have it, Political Reality 101. Whatcha think?
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 11:34 PM
BrianR
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And BTW
Before you dismiss this as tinfoil-hat stuff, I speak from experience. I've mentioned before that I used to be very active in the GOP, and was part of the LA county Young Republicans, at the executive level. I quit about 20 years ago when the schism first developed out here between the conservative and Rockefeller wings of the party, and the decision was reached to marginalize the conservatives by backing the more liberal and therefore supposedly more "electable" candidates.
Tha meant no more party support, including funding, for the conservatives.
Which is one of the big reasons we have to suffer through the Governator now.
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Monday, April, 30, 2007 11:39 PM
BrianR
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BTW
I voted for Bush 1's re-election, as well as Dole (though that was a nose-holder). Perot wasn't a factor in the Dole/Clinton matchup; Dole managed to lose that one all by his lonesome self.
Frankly, the only reason Perot got the appreciable vote he did in Bush/Clinton was Bush breaking his "no new taxes" pledge. He really pizzed off the electorate -- which kinda brings us to where we are today, when you think about it.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:11 AM
BrianR
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I laugh at myself!
In my definitions of the "hacks", i never actually named them, just kept using the same words over and over.
They are the party committees at the national and state levels who make the decisions on the allocation of funds, materials, personnel, and other support that will be allocated to any given candidate.
Without the support of these committees, a successful campaign is impossible unless you are incredibly wealthy independantly.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:37 AM
wil
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Brian
"Last year here in California a very solid conservative ran against Feinstein in the race for Senator, Republican Dick Mountjoy. But because the party hacks had decided that there was no way for Mountjoy to win, they gave him absolutely no funding or support of any kind. It was absolutely outrageous"
You mean against Boxer, right? Ok I buy what you say because I thought the same thing when the establishment California Republicans backed Arnold over McClintock (Who I saw in person and was very impressed with) However, why did Mountjoy not do a grassroots travel the state thing? I was waiting for him to come to Yuba City, Chico, I even would have traveled to Sac to see him...but he never came or if he did, no one talked about it. I realize that a campaign takes money, but there must be other ways to do it. Why not set up regional volunteers to pass out fliers to let a town know a few days ahead that he is coming for a campaign stop. We are the conservative corner of California up here, and a grassroots effort here where Conservatives get 70+% of the vote might have done him some good. Goodness knows some would have voted for one of those freak shows who decided to go for Governor if they ran against Boxer. She is an embarrassment to the state.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:42 AM
wil
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Dole
Is not much of a great conservative politician, but is an American hero and class act. I can respect him for that at least. I voted for Dole as well, but his campaign was uninspired to say the least.
As for Bush Sr., he played the part to get on Reagans ticket, and later elected...he called Reagans supply side tax cuts voodoo economics in the 1980 primary, and while he too was a great man, he was never comfortable playing the part of a conservative. When he raised taxes, he went back to what he really believed in.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:46 AM
SLW
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Hey, Brian.
Welcome to the real world. We have to have the political parties, just like we have to have school boards, CEO's, CFO's, etc., people to make the decisions. The candidates have to proove themselves before the party will back them. A Party is not going to bet on a losing horse.
It's not a perfect system, but how else can it be done? It takes organization, volunteers, fund raising...are they all hacks?
You make it look as though the Party can back someone "out of the blue" and hand him to us on a platter.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 1:24 AM
Sheila
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Hey Brian
Thanks for the splenation, there Lucello...;)
So, the "hacks" you refer to are people like you and me who work with the party to help those who are selected by the voters in the primaries.
Seems they aren't quite as gnarly as you make them out to be...:)
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 2:03 AM
Sheila
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Will
Great points...thanks for stopping by and contributing.
I felt the same way you did about Montjoy. He just didn't seem to want the job...
McClintock is a good man...we'll see if there's a future for him as Governor. I would love to see that happen...
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 2:08 AM
Sheila
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Will
You're right about Dole...a hero, and a very impressive man. Seeing him in person was nothing like seeing him on TV.
Who knows, he might have made a great president. For sure he wouldn't have disgraced the office of the president as Clinton did. He was a much better man.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 2:22 AM
Sheila
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Sandra
Yeah...it's too bad we can't wave a magic wand, and make everything work just as we want.
It would sure be more fun if we didn't have to work to make things happen...there are always challenges to deal with...liberalism, personalites, turf fights, moderates, independents, libertarians pushing for their agendas...I could go on...gheesh...what is our problem?
I guess being human is working against us...:)sigh.
Only Brian is perfect. The perfect, studdly, manly man...:) LOL Brian! (Lots of love)...
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 2:28 AM
Jimmy Carter
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I'm not perfect....
...only flawless.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 3:05 AM
Sheila
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Ha! Jimmy :-)
I knew that! LOL
Hey did you see my little lamb song I left for you at Sandra's?
You have to check it out!
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 3:20 AM
Sheila
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Btw, Jimmy
I liked your song over at Sandra's...:)
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 5:28 AM
davecatbone
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If so, then....
The Party machine is unsurmountable? We have no choice? So how will Fred be viewed? Folksy guy in a red pickup who's a tv actor? I think the conservatives are just waiting for him, and there'll be a groundswell that gains momentum. Of course, the MSM with it's phoney polling will try to suppress it, but I think there's a certain desperation out there for Fred.
Look at the articles out there about how the Right is imploding. Not true, but a campaign of suppression by the Enemedia. I was initially skeptical about Fred (he voted against convicting Clinton), but lately his written pieces have impressed me. We'll see, huh?
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 10:15 AM
BrianR
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Wil, Sheila
Wil: Mountjoy did mount a campaign, including travel, etc. However, your post is a perfect example of why a campaign that doesn't get the backing of the party hacks doesn't have a prayer. You, apparently, weren't even aware he was running. Without the money and other support of the party committee (the hacks), a candidate is simply sunk.
Sheila: No, they're not people like you and me; they're people who are on the party committees, not just average Joe Blows. The proverbial "smoke-filled room" types. The "In Crowd". The people who control the party's pursestrings.
The Hacks.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 10:23 AM
BrianR
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C'mon, people, don't be naive!
Why do you think you keep reading about Thompson having meetings with "party leaders" about declaring his candidacy?
Why do you think Mountjoy's campaign went exactly nowhere?
Why do you think Lieberman had to run as an independant?
Why do you think Dole got the nod to run? In his case, it was perceived as "his turn". Too many people "owed" him.
It's because any potential candidate who doesn't have the blessing of the party leaders -- AKA the Hacks -- will not get the backing and support of the party machine.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 10:32 AM
BrianR
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One last thing
Just so you know, this is where Romney's been spending his time. Building up his chops and funding at the various state committee levels, and from what I've read he's built up a very strong machine.
He is definitely going to be a force in this campaign.
This is also why McCain's falling on his butt; he ticked off way too many of the hacks in the past. He can't get no love going.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 10:49 AM
BrianR
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Another great example
of party hackdom.
For years, reapportionment has been a scandal out here in Cali. The hacks of both parties have colluded -- yes, worked together -- to make damned sure that incumbent seats of BOTH parties are virtually challenge-proof by making sure that any redistricting doesn't upset the current apple cart.
The GOP out here has settled for permamnent minority status, so that the incumbents can make sure their own seats are safe for themselves, and their hand-picked successors after they're termed-out.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 11:57 AM
Peppermint
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Sheila
I don't know what to say that I haven't already said on this subject. Whirlwinds of debate round and round and nobody knows when it stops. Get me off the merry go round. My head is getting dizzy from it all.
Well, within the GOP are hacks, whacks, sacks (of manure), cracks, packs, snacks, lacks, jacks.
Within the dimocrap party there are socialists, troops haters, America haters, free speech haters,
global warming lie makers, tax hike makers, burn the flag haters, cut and run takers, blue dog fakers.
I could probably go on but my list of the dimocrap party is good reason enough for me never to vote for one and never to let them win if I can help it.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:20 PM
Sheila
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Brian
Well, I hate to say it, but they are just people who are involved in the process, who want to have a hand in the decisions. You may not always agree with the decisions, and that is what politics is all about: people organizing to get the word out working together for the candidate that they feel will do the job they want done...that's politics!
I have a friend who worked on a committee, and it was all about shaping the debate, working for the conservative priorities in the party...she is a person...an idividual like you and me.
The reason so few actually get into politics, and work actively in the parties is that it is a lot of work, and obviously there is pressure from all sides to shape the debate...but the only way anyone will be heard is with help from like minded people who are willing to do the work, help raise the money etc.
Unfortunately there are always going to be those people whom we will not agree with, but we have to try to work within the system to make the changes, and put the pressure on for our agenda. If there is a pure an perfect way to have competition of ideas, it won't be on this fallen planet, that's a dreamworld that won't exist.:)
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:34 PM
SLW
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Sheila:
Well said. I don't know why Brian and his followers don't start a party of their own. They could call it the "Non hacks Party."
Brian, really, I am serious. The small number of people that are trying to impose their will on the Republican Party, and who would destroy the party if they don't get their way, need to get organized and start a Party.
Buchanan tried it and failed, but with your experience, you could probably get it going...
I'm really serious, I'm not being condescending.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:35 PM
Sheila
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And, I'm not always
happy with the result...but what do we do then? Put our head in the sand, and do nothing? I don't believe in the word "quit".
As I mentioned at your place in a comment, if I plant a garden, it wil look perfect for a short time, with all the gorgeous flowers and plants, but eventually weeds will pop up...I didn't put them there, it's a process of the imperfection that exists in this fallen planet.
So, by your theory, because it's not the original perfection, I should just abandon the work, and let the weeds take over...or Phil's idea...go start another garden...but then it's not in my yard!
So I have to decide to do the hard work of pulling weeds to keep the garden beautiful.Will I succeed 100%? NO. There will be weeds I miss, and persistent weeds I can't totally get rid of, but I don't let them take over.
From time to time I will have to remove dead plants and plant new ones...
Same thing in the party...we get rid of the bad guys, and build with more good guys.
If I throw out the good plants with the dead plants, my garden will never flourish.
Same with the party...we threw out the good guys with the bad. Now the weeds have taken over, and our political garden is filled with ugly plants, and weeds. They have taken over, and now it will be harder to get the garden back to it's original beauty...
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:44 PM
Sheila
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Dr. Steech
Hey, great to hear from you!
"Dems shooting dems in feet"...
Yeah, I'm hoping for a fatal blow to the head in the next election...LOL :)
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:47 PM
Sheila
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He Pep!
LOL!
Your assessment of the "hacks" is hillarious!
Thanks for your ever funny and insightful contribution to the discussion!
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:58 PM
SLW
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Sheila:
I love the "garden" analogy. I saw it over at Brian's and I'm so glad you repeated it here.
You can't get a much clearer picture than that!
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 12:59 PM
Sheila
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Sandra
Interesting point as usual!Baaa!
Hey, Brian's new party...hmmm...we need to think of a clever name to suggest...any ideas?
Hey Brian, based on our previous discussions of GOP Sheep etc...how about Sandra's idea of you forming your own party?
May I suggest a name?
The Old Goats Party...or the OGP
(refering to those who aren't GOP sheep, of course)...LOL (lots of luv :)
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 1:01 PM
Sheila
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Just kidding
!
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 1:03 PM
SLW
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Peppermint:
Way to go!!!
I'll do anything to keep the second group from winning. I'll use the hacks and whacks to do it.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 1:45 PM
Sheila
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Dave
Yeah...good points.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 1:46 PM
Sheila
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Sandra
Thanks...gotta keep pulling weeds...uhg. I hate that!
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 1:52 PM
BrianR
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Heh heh heh
The problem with starting my own party is that then...
I'd be a hack! And I despise the hacks.
I appreciate that you weren't just being condescending. BTW, the only reason I got so long-winded earlier is you guys wanted me to define "hack" for you, and it took all that blathering on my part to get it clear enough, to my standards.
I think a great many people simply aren't aware of all the behind-the-scenes aspects of the political process.
As to the OGP -- I guess, being "youth-challenged", I at least meet the age requirements, if nothing else.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 2:01 PM
BrianR
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Third parties; a thought
That got me thinking about third parties. At present, they're not viable. That doesn't mean things will stay that way.
Everyone always talks about Perot giving the Presidency to Clinton, which is true. Few seem to recall that Nader did the same thing for Bush in 2000. In that razor-close race, if Nader hadn't run, Gore would have won, easily.
As both parties struggle with their constituencies, and independant runs have incremental yet greater impacts on presidential elections, the time could well come when third-party candidates become viable.
A very interesting race would be one in which both major parties have huge disaffected factions that run strong independant candidates at the same time. Basically a four-way race.
I wonder how that would turn out.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 2:15 PM
SLW
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BrianR:
Yes, thank God for Nader!
As to your question...I think if we had two side parties, then the Republican Party would probable become the mainstream party, because I really think that it is the party of the ideas that appeal to most people. Most Americans do not want the Government to control everything including health care. And, most people like smaller taxes.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 2:19 PM
BrianR
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Sandra: Could be
That would definitely be the case if they shifted back rightward away from where they've gone over the last few years.
Otherwise, the splinter from the GOP could end up filling that role.
After all, don't forget that the origin of the GOP was as a splinter from the WHIGs, when they became too "establishment".
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 3:59 PM
Jimmy Carter
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Now I've seen everything:
"Yes, thank God for Nader!"
Never have I ever thought I would see that.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 4:03 PM
BrianR
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Jimmy: LOL,yeah!
Gotta admit, I was shocked when I saw it, too.
But I remember thinking after the election "If he wants to run again next time, I'm going to contribute to his campaign".
Man! Politics does, indeed, make strange bedfellows.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 4:34 PM
Peppermint
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Now I know
people are going over the proverbial edge when they start talking about supporting Nader. My God, get some valium quick.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 4:46 PM
davecatbone
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What about
If Giuliani ran against Zell Miller. Would you guys vote for Zell, or stay home?
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 5:21 PM
davecatbone
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Sheila
I'm posing the question at my site, I'd appreciate your views.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 5:40 PM
Peppermint
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Sheila
Go to davecat's site. He's presenting this argument in a whole different light. It's refreshing from the merry go round argument that keeps going around and around.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 8:19 PM
BrianR
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Pepp, Davecat
Pepp: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Davecat: That's not exactly the question you posed, but it is the question as I answered it at your place.
Very clearly: I'd vote for Zell Miller in a heartbeat over Rudy McCain.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 9:16 PM
Scottie
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Sheila
Catch Hannity & Combs tonite. Long interview of Fred T by Hannity. The more I see, the more I like.
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 9:39 PM
Sheila
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Great discussion everyone!
You guys are good!
Brian: good answer on the OGP!...funny...:)
Interesting perspective on a four way race...as to a third party ever being viable...who knows!:)
Sandra: good thoughts on the future of the GOP...(not the OPG...)Nader...EEEK!, but you're right...
Jimmy: You can get up off the floor now...:)
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 9:45 PM
Sheila
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Pep, Dave,
I'm heading over to your place, Dave.
Hmmm. Rudy or Zel...trick question?
Thanks Pep...getting the valium... lalala..
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 9:48 PM
Sheila
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Scottie!
Thanks for that...I'll catch the 9:00 oclock show.
Thompson is a good man, everyone I know is excited about him.
What did you think about the interview?
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Tuesday, May, 01, 2007 11:31 PM
Peppermint
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Sheila
I thought Thompson sounded good, a little laid back. I also thought he didn't look well. He had deep circles under his eyes and his eyes looked pale and hazy.
Being a nurse at one time I always size up the look of someone's physical condition. Old habit never goes away.
I liked what he had to say.
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Wednesday, May, 02, 2007 12:01 AM
Sheila
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Pep
I'm watching it right now...I'll let you know.
Thanks!
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Wednesday, May, 02, 2007 12:41 AM
Sheila
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Hey Pep
I didn't think he looked much different... a little older, but to me he looked fine.
What he said was great...he's wetting people's apatite without revealing his hand...smart. I like him...
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Wednesday, May, 02, 2007 12:40 PM
Gunny "knuckles" G©
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Sheila
I agree. Fred holding back is building a groundswell of support for him. He's going to eat the RINOs for lunch and have baked libstain ala mode for dessert
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Wednesday, May, 02, 2007 2:22 PM
davecatbone
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Sheila
Run Fred, Run!
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Wednesday, May, 02, 2007 5:31 PM
Sheila
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GunnyG
Yeah, I'd love to see him up agaisnt any of the libs...he'll chew them up and spit them out...:)
Hill will look like an absolute fool, and BO will look like a kid who's still in high school, and Edwards, well he will look like the wimp that he is...:)
I't's going to be fun to watch if he throws his hat in the ring...
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Wednesday, May, 02, 2007 5:35 PM
Sheila
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dave
He's an impressive guy! Run Fred, run is right!
He seems like the type who will not hesitate to call it like it is, and put the opponent on the spot...which is what those socialist liars need to have happen to them...:)
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Wednesday, May, 02, 2007 7:10 PM
Scottie
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On Fred
The thing I like best about him is he isn't running with a posse of "consultants" to tell him what to say; those are his own words without benefit of spin, focus group analysis, or shading. And the authenticity rings through. I'll be he is tired, he's pretty much doing it all on his own at this point.
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Thursday, May, 03, 2007 12:03 AM
Sheila
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Hey Scottie
Yeah, I agree, he says it as he sees it...
Interesting though, he didn't want to comment on Hill or BO at this point...
How do you think the fact that he won't be in the debates tomorrow will affect his run? Is it a plus for him to be scarce at this point?
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Thursday, May, 03, 2007 10:43 PM
Sheila
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Scottie
Yeah, he needs to take the plunge soon...I don't think he could enter the debate until he declared, though...
The debate was pathetic with Chris Mathews...not a good format in my opinion...what did you think?
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Friday, May, 04, 2007 12:34 AM
Scottie
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Sheila
Fresh article on a new subject. Since we've been beating each other's brains out over politics, why not religion? Be the first kid on your block to the extravaganza!
Sorry, missed the pre-pre-pre primary debates. Waiting for Gidot (I mean Fred)
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Friday, May, 04, 2007 11:13 AM
Sheila
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Scottie
Coming your way! Thanks.
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