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Another Time Mag. McCain Computer Smear
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Wednesday, August, 20, 2008 4:22 PM
piker62
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How is this a "smear"
I'm not sure how you define the word.
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Wednesday, August, 20, 2008 9:20 PM
WTH
writes:
An attack..
It is an attack without meaningful basis. That is a smear. Let's use a counter example with YOUR candidate...
Barack Obama doesn't know how to fly a jet. So, HOW is he going to govern over the FAA?? HOW can he make rules about our nation's airports? Oh, GOD our whole system of transportation will collapse because Obama doesn't know how to fly a jet...
See what I mean.
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 1:31 PM
piker62
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Though the Time editorial also suggests that a lack of familiarity could be a positive, because it prevents the president from being distracted by trivia. It's possible the writer didn't mean it, but you'd have to see into his soul to know that for sure.
I thought smear was closer in definition to "hateful lie" as in "John McCain has an illegitimate black child," or "George Bush has started hitting the sauce again." What are we calling those kinds of rumors now?
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 2:42 PM
WTH
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We call those...
We call those typical Democrat talking points!
Ha, ha.
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 3:24 PM
piker62
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Ha ha back atcha
So back to this "smear" thing, when Media Matters quotes O'Reilly in context, that is an attack without a meaningful basis?
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 3:57 PM
WTH
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Well, it certainly...
Well, it certainly depends on the quote and what it was all about.
For instance, in that Saddleback forum thing McCain joked that a "rich" person made 5 million a year. He was JOKING and laughed and said so right after saying it.
So, what does Obama do? He quotes that 5 million figure as if McCain was serious. Obama took an actual quote and made a lie out of it.
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 4:30 PM
piker62
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So McCain Joked
...and then failed to answer the question.
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 4:35 PM
WTH
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Yes...
Yes, you are right. But that STILL doesn't give Obama the right to take what was an OBVIOUS joke and turn it into a serious point. Obama is a liar. It's just that simple. But, then again, he's lied so much what's another little one?
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 5:15 PM
piker62
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A Man Who Doesn't Know...
...how many houses he owns can legitimately be said to be out of touch with most people's definition of the word "rich", so that joke is important.
Plus, the last presidential race spent a significant amount of time on the wording and motives behind a John Kerry joke, so you can't say this isn't a legitimate subject for debate. We're only playing by your rules, man.
Hahah! You've tangented yourself into a defense position!
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 5:20 PM
WTH
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Thing is...
Actually, the "John Kerry" joke is a lie by none other than John Kerry. See, McCain made it a joke AT THE TIME HE SAID IT. Kerry, PRETENDED it was a joke the next day to try and get out of his mess that had swirled around his stupid comment that our soldiers are stupid.
Kerry's was NO joke. He was deadly serious. McCain made it a joke the SECOND he said it.
THAT is a big difference... unless you are too partisan to see it, of course.
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 6:02 PM
piker62
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If you
"It's great to be here with college students. I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush."
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Thursday, August, 21, 2008 6:03 PM
piker62
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Title Continued...
IF YOU can't see the joke construction in the transcript, you are as comedy-blind as Kerry.
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