Townhall.com, Where Your Opinion Counts
Talk Radio:   Bill Bennett   Mike Gallagher   Dennis Prager   Michael Medved   Hugh Hewitt   
BREAKING NEWS  LeftArrow - Townhall.com : Conservative, Political, Republican   RightArrow - Townhall.com : Conservative, Political, Republican  
Columns, funnies & more in your inbox!
Login | What's Hot
  • Check the boxes and send us your email address to receveive your free newsletter
  • Your daily must-read of conservative columns, cartoons and news. Coulter, Sowell, Krauthammer and more.
  • Townhall.com’s weekly inside scoop on what’s happening behind the scenes in the world of politics. When news breaks, we report.
  • Signup to receive the latest daily Townhall cartoons

Comment on: The Bare Nee Cessities

You're a What?!!!

37 Comments
Friday, March, 28, 2008 3:39 PM Jimmy Carter writes:

Actually,

I'm quite surprised to find that they still "teach" "civics."

EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:21 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Nee

I've taken this before. It's a standard with the libertarians. Hint: You have to be against a draft and want to legalize drugs to get into the Libertarian zone.

Jimmy poses a good question.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:41 PM Nee writes:

Jam Apple

Well, they may offer it and a book that has the word "civics" on it, but I think the County is just wasting money. I wish it were up to me...I'd fire our band director and the muslim chem teacher. Oops. That could lead to me being a profiler!!
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:42 PM Nee writes:

SgtR

I could take it again to see what they actually claim is Liber-al, but I don't have a decontamination grade shower!
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Friday, March, 28, 2008 9:16 PM The Crawfish writes:

I'd get labelled

something similar to Atilla The Hun.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Friday, March, 28, 2008 9:20 PM The Crawfish writes:

conservative

90% economic, 40% personal
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 7:38 AM Nee writes:

Craw

I am 80 economic 40 personl
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 9:18 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Nee

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%.

Those were my scores from the test.

Uh, I fell into the libertarian group. I guess that is telling. And, pretty accurate since I don't want gubmint poking its' nose into any of my business.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 9:22 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Nee

I must say if this is "civics" I'm a polar bear.
This is nothing like what we were taught in parochial school about civics. And, we didn't take a quiz to find out where we were leaning politically. Personally, I think this is an intrusion and it sounds like a teacher who wants to know who is a lib and who is a con. But, maybe I'm just paranoid. I wouldn't like it though.

If this kind of thing takes place when my grand daughter is old enough, (she's only 5 now) my son will march up to that school and raise hell.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 9:30 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Well

I guess I'm a Neal Boortz clone. LOL
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 10:15 AM clyde writes:

Nee

Well,after taking that quiz,I'm in about the same boat as Pepp. JC is spot-on,they still offer that? I would like to find MY civics class books and compare them to today's. Or,maybe not. Blood pressure is under control for the time being!!
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 10:59 AM BrianR writes:

Conservative

"Your PERSONAL issues Score is 40%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 90%."

I think on the "personal" issues it was because I'm against liberalizing drug laws, and I'm for a military draft.

Actually, I'm in favor of compulsive service, military or some substitute.

Also, I have no problem with a national ID card. We already have one de facto, anyway: our Social Security ID.

EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 11:31 AM Goshawk writes:

Nee

Took the test and my status and score matches Brian's. And his comments are also identical to what mine would be.

Nee, Liberal/Socialist indoctrination in the public schools is one of my "pet peeves." So I'm curious. Did you contact the teacher/school to ask what the purpose of this test was for? And what do they plan to do with the information gained from such a test?
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 11:50 AM BrianR writes:

Goshawk, Nee

Ron, those are excellent questions.

I can see a purpose for the "test" as a learning experience, and a jumping-off point for classroom discussion. It could be quite benign. But then I have to wonder:

Do the results become part of some permanent record? If so, why? And how is that data used in the future?

Is there a grade given out based on the test results?

Are kids in the class treated differently based on their results?

EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:30 PM Nee writes:

Pepp

There Is alot about Boortz that I like. Mainly his absolute disgust for government skools and his support for obliterating the enemy. I answered the test with one answer different and it labeled me a libertarian! I don't know how they evaluate the score...
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:32 PM Nee writes:

Clyde

You and me both. I get really frosted when I think they are non-abjective. I think that takes talent..like the now deceased Andrew Olmsted. He was awesome with perpsective and objectivity for the most part.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:38 PM Nee writes:

Brian-

Well, You are so right about the Nat'l Id card and the defacto SS. I never thought of that. I tell my kids never to put it anywhhere!
As for compulsory, My sugar Daddy and I used to say the same thing. Now, I am not too sure. I'll try to expound at a later date.
As for the purpose, it was to generate discussion. But it is obvious that the teacher slanted her definition of a conservative if my daughter was a "Statist". And, rest-assured, if at any time I feel this is impacting her grade, I will take a sword to school and let it rip!
It was done and kept by the students. My issue is that the teacher skewed it by her choice of words or PCness.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:51 PM BrianR writes:

No question there, Nee

How can a "conservative" be a "statist", when the implication then is that a "liberal" isn't?

Liberalism is the philosophy of Nanny Government, which is the very definition of statism.

EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:51 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Nee

I took the test:

Personal: 20
Economic: 100

Apparently they don't have an evil conservative rating. LOL!

Brian's right about national ID, or am I the only one with a U.S. Passport?
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:51 PM Sgt Relic writes:

This is a political correctness alert!

Google in a show of unity with the Goracle and perhaps Obama has turned it's frontpage black.

This might be a good time to try out a new search engine that should appeal to the generous nature of conservatives and find the information you seek at the same time.

Check out GoodSearch.com here:

http://www.goodsearch.com/
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 1:12 PM Goshawk writes:

Brian,

Those are some of my questions. Especially how the results of such tests are used. You know as well as I how brainwashing works. The results can be used to monitor the extent of conversion. For example, if a child scores high in the "statist group." That child may be moved toward the head of the class, pampered and treated well. Whereas a child that consistently scored in the "Conservative group" would be deemed as needing more work and treated more sternly.

This type of test has no place in primary education. But then, the purpose of the public schools has become, to indoctrinate. Not educate.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 1:53 PM BrianR writes:

Exactly, Goshawk

That would be precisely my concern, too.

There would have been a time when I was far less concerned. But as the government "establishment" assumes more and more control, then perverts the school environment away from edumacation and more into indoctrination, it becomes worrisome.

This month's Cali State Supreme Court decision severely restricting the ability of parents to home-school, coupled with the refusal to institute a voucher system, essentially gives the state almost limitless power as it effectively eliminates choice from the equation for the vast majority of people.

School curricula teaching 4th graders how to put a condom on a banana; "Nancy Has Two Mommies" textbooks; Gay Pride Week in school systems. This is a HUGE problem.

Couple that with kids being expelled for wearing NRA T-shirts, and the writing on the wall is in glaring neon.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 5:15 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Nee

I have to say my concerns lie with what Goshawk said. I don't think there is a place for this kind of test on children. These socialist skools are too tricky.

And, I have no doubt you would let it rip if you found out your daughter's grades were being altered for being a conservative instead of the preferred liberal/Marxist/socialist.

I sure am glad I don't have school age children. There would come a time I'm sure I'd be arrested.

I got into a huge argument with my son's 4th grade teacher and it wasn't even about socialism being taught.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 6:24 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Nee

I wonder if the school realizes that this test is a product of the Libertarian Party? If you don't wind up in the Libertarian block you actually flunked the test.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 6:51 PM Scottie writes:

Some thoghts

If you object to a national ID card, then close the borders! Without one or the other, we have anarchy.

I see nothing wrong with a requirement for national service of some kind with a military style front end.

Now I'm off to take the "Test" and see if I can get to the right of Crawfish.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 6:55 PM Scottie writes:

Well how about that!

Personal 70; Economic 100 = Libertarian.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Saturday, March, 29, 2008 6:56 PM Scottie writes:

New Word!

Thoghts = half baked (and brief) thoughts
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Sunday, March, 30, 2008 6:13 AM Purplegimp writes:

Nee

How strange. Like Gracie, I'm 90% on the personal annd 100% on the economic. Guess I am a Libertarian of sorts. Kind of always suspected I might be.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Sunday, March, 30, 2008 6:44 AM Nee writes:

SGTRelic

No man, I've got a passport,haha. ALot of people never travel out of the States, though,so why would they spend the dough.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Sunday, March, 30, 2008 6:57 AM Nee writes:

Brian, Goshawk, Pepp

Maybe you miseed it...my post on the movie "indoctrinate U" about a guy named Evan Coyn Maloney.
The indocking as I call it, is especially rampant in skools- we all know this. As for ours in NC being worse than Kalifornia's left coast, thank God,not yet. But I am not fooled.

I had a discussion with my son on Friday about what his History teacher said about no WMD's. Every statement made was nutso!! So I schooled him Nee style. At least he knows ask me questions.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Sunday, March, 30, 2008 7:07 AM Nee writes:

Scottie

I had a really quick comeback that escapes me at the moment.
Do we pronounce it "tho(long ooo)(gggits)gts"??
Hell, I'd rather be a libertarian!!!
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Sunday, March, 30, 2008 9:12 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Conservative

80% economic, 40% personal.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Sunday, March, 30, 2008 2:02 PM Nee writes:

Gimp, Gray

Hey PG I almost didn't see my typo on your name as "p*imp" hahaha. Hey, Libs(of the ertarain kind are okay with me! There are some differences, but not as many as the loonies.
Gray Ghost...doesn't it make you feel good to "know" that you can't be "tricked"? Unlike my own kid who trusts the adults in her life to be truthful.
( it sensored me Gimp!!)
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Sunday, March, 30, 2008 4:39 PM Scottie writes:

Nee

No it's thoghts with a short oo, like in foots! Sounds like the misfire it is when you pronounce it that way, No? The long sound makes it sound like a mortar round being launched, kinda implying it will make sense a minute or two later, which this clearly doesn't.

[/tounge in cheek = off]
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Sunday, March, 30, 2008 9:46 PM willibeaux writes:

Yo Nee!!

Same as Gray Ghost. Conservative 40% Personal 805 Economic
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Wednesday, April, 02, 2008 12:34 PM ShiningCity writes:

I'm not going to take the test.

I know what I am.

But I'm wondering how elementary and junior high school kids can answer these questions when not actually taught the subject matter. AND, giving THIS TEST does NOT COUNT as teaching the subject matter, although the civics teacher I'm sure would disagree.

Jr. high kids don't even know what a "tax" is, except for the story of the Boston Tea Party. I would support this by exampling that any student, at any age, when asked if they would like to give $20 of their $40 lawn mowing money (representing my rate of taxation) in order that the kid across the street can have a bicycle, the answer would UNIVERSALLY be NO, NO WAY, NO WAY DUDE AND HELL NO. But, alas, the "test" doesn't ask it that way.
EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive
Wednesday, April, 02, 2008 12:35 PM ShiningCity writes:

Nee

what I just wrote in my example may have been why your daughter answered it differently than you.

It always SOUNDS GOOD to give away money, unless it's your own. Ask Al Gore. He knows.

EmailItEmail It | Print It Print It |  Flag as OffensiveFlag as Offensive