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Comment on: The Pepperhawks' Farm Journal

The Asman Report

174 Comments
Saturday, October, 04, 2008 10:14 PM Darvin Dowdy writes:

All the more reason...

...to go out and place your "straight gop" vote on 11/4/08. Elect McCain and at least buy us some time.
There's an email going around that state the general conditions of the economy just prior to the 11/7/06 election. It was very good. Why is no blame being put on the dem's? We all know. The slanted, biased msm. Its up to folks like you Pep to keep getting the truth out. Keep up the good work. DD
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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 10:26 PM Dogged writes:

Pepp

I watched the show and it made many good points.

It appears that the Dems are neck deep in this thing, and as Darvin Dowdy says it's the Dems that are controlling the Government.

So why are they blaming Bush when in fact they stopped him from putting controls on Fannie and Freddie?
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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 10:36 PM buck writes:

It's Coming Down

This great nation may dissolve into 50 independant states. It may amalgamate into a giant socialist union. It may become a vassal of China, Russia and all the enemies we have heretofore fended off.
But people such as Barak Obama and most of his supporters Hate the United States of America and have only the desire to destroy the United States of America. The haters of America have enlisted the support of the lazy and stupid as their army of voters. They have promised them the fruits of your labors in exchange for help in elevation to the highest seats of power where they can tear down our nation. There is no desire on the greater part of the citizenery because not since before WWII has there been any real, true misery, hunger and joblessness. That the people believe we are in hard times is believed by the people because they have never known REAL hard times. If these people gain power the people will get to know REAL hard times. Larry Lunchbucket listens to Obama and starts to believe he has it bad. Larry Lunchbucket had better wake up. The Soviet Union dissolved peacably because we were not/are not aggressors. If the union of the United States of America dissolves we will be totally destroyed by foreign enemies we did not destroy when we had the chance.....
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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 10:40 PM Joe writes:

The forgotten man

Was then and is today you and me who get up every morning, make no excuses and march our butts to work.

And is the forgotten man, you and me that the cretins Washington insiders ignore everyday by following communist agendas, requesting more taxes, etc.

Glenn Beck has interviewed the author and it is amazing the similarities between that time and today.

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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 10:46 PM Goshawk writes:

Dogged

The Dems are getting so bold with their lies it's as if they don't care what we think. Just like when Finestian said that 85% of the people were against the bail out. But THEY didn't know what they were talking about!

I think there is far more to the Obama, Franks, Dodd, connection than we know. What gets me is that NO Republicans investigate or even call them out!
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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 10:55 PM Goshawk writes:

buck

I think your right on all points. McCain is bad enough but if Ovomit gets in it's all over. Dark days ahead!
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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 11:04 PM Peppermint2 writes:

DD

thanks for coming by so quickly. And, thanks for the compliment. There are a lot of folks besides me who are trying to get the truth out also. We need to do this or we are sunk.

Yep,elect McCain and buy some time is about all we have left here.

Now, the Asman report did have some experts putting the blame on the dems for this fiasco. Dodd, Schumer, Obama, Clinton, Franks, were all mentioned and implicated. They had their hands in the till big time.

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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 11:06 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

Thanks for coming by and your comments. I'm glad you got a chance to watch the show too.

It is not galling that the dems, the very ones who caused this problem are laying the whole thing at the repubs feet? They are beyond contempt.

Oh, yeah, the dems are controlling everything. We are in for a big mess with Obama raising taxes on businesses. Can you imagine what will happen?

Time to stock up now on necessities.
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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 11:08 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Buck

Good points and thanks for coming by.

We are being destroyed from within. We don't even need a foreign enemy to do it. Then we are sitting ducks for whomever wants to take over.

This is such a huge mess we're in right now and nobody even knows if this stupid bail out package is going to work.
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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 11:11 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Joe

I sure wish I could recall that woman's name. I googled it but came up with several names. Do you know the woman's name who wrote this book?

Yeah, we're the forgotten people all right. Did any of those jerks listen to us screaming we didn't want this bailout.

Michael Savage played a clip of Dianne Feinstein saying, I got 85% emails against this, but the people don't understand. Wow, talk about a put down. No, the average guy in the street doesn't understand corruption to the level it has gone in Washington. DC should be wiped clean of all of them.
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Saturday, October, 04, 2008 11:14 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Gos

Uh, I didn't realize you quoted Feinstein. But, you're right, why don't the repubs call the dems out on this? What the heck is going on here? This whole thing stinks to high heaven as we discussed earlier. Oh, there you are, right at my door. I guess I can talk to you personally. LOL!
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 12:31 AM bob's my uncle writes:

Pep

Verrrry interrresting. But not EVEN funny! (Remember Laugh In?)
Yes, I think I can see the point. Depression lasting 'til 1954? Yeah, it was about that time that highly motivated WWII vets were getting done with their educations and starting businesses and going to work and kick starting the American economy with good old Capitalism. Also the point about FDR taxing businesses out of business. Scary stuff.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 12:40 AM Peppermint2 writes:

bob's my uncle

Thanks for coming by and putting in your comments.

I like your historical facts about the GIs after the war kick starting businesses and such. Yeah, good old capitalism, on its way out I'm afraid.
Socialism here we go and fall.

It sure is scary stuff. I wonder what Obama will do if/when he's elected pres and causes the 2nd great depression when he runs all the businesses out of our country.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 1:02 AM bob's my uncle writes:

Pure Socialism

will ruin any nation and economy since it's based on a false concept of humanity. They think they can micromanage a system as big as the American economy, thereby bringing about a Utopian Society. There is no way. When you take away the incentives of success, there will be no success. We'll all be fighting over the few scraps available. Abundance will be gone. Of course, if we're in a depression after Jan. 20, everyone will want the Pres, (whoever it is) to do SOMETHING. That's usually when the government does exactly the wrong thing, like trying to control the monster economy, instead of turning it loose. As you know, turning it loose is the ONLY thing that works.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 1:09 AM Peppermint2 writes:

bob's my uncle

You're right of course. I'm not so sure this bail out bill was the right thing to do. Why not just let the free market determine the outcome?

The more government interference the more we get deeper in doo doo.

Socialism! Argh! Half the country thinks this is such a good idea. Well, we'll see what happens when we start facing shortages of everything and people are stealing for gas and food.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 3:31 AM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie

I can't begin to tell you how strange it was to sit here and have to explain to fellow Ex Mainer why the bail out was so bad when he kept trying to comapare the US system to ours. "It's the Constitution, Stupid" We don't have one and the US does. I'm beginning to think he's been here too long.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 8:35 AM beachmom writes:

Unfortunately,

Fox and it's Business Network and talk radio and blogs such as your's Pepp are the only outlets that are bringing up the fact that this bailout is socialist and the similarities to FDR and his new deal scam.
The more we stick to pushing the facts, the more people will know the truth.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 8:40 AM davecatbone writes:

Absolutely Great Show

People need to talk about what a Community Organizer is, and how these thugs intimidated the government and financial sector into giving bad loans that WE are now paying for. Yes, this job that Obama hangs his hat on as experience. Sheesh, a fricking class envy racist thug intimidator. Yeah, that's a resume.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 8:42 AM davecatbone writes:

The Forgotten Man

Yes, Joe's right about that book, it's on my list to read. The author was in Asman's piece too, if I'm not mistaken.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 8:52 AM Sanfrisky writes:

Saw Biden on the news

this morning. He was talking about how marvelous the Ovomit plan is. He is going to raise tax's on everyone and everything. Except the middle class of course. LOL!

He stated that Ovomit will simply "take" profits from companies and give it to the underprivileged! Man! if the American people can't see through this Marxist and stop him. The whole country will pay a heavy price!

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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 11:39 AM Dogged writes:

Gos

As you said 85% are against the bailout but we don't have a clue. It's like they get a swelled head as soon as they get to Washington. Only they know what to do and the rest of us plain folk have no idea, so why listen to us anyway, what can we do, they are in power now not us. Comes election time for them and more lies for us just to get back in power again.

It doesn't make any sense why the Republicans aren't screaming about this and calling for investigations. The Dems would if the tide was turned.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 11:51 AM Dogged writes:

Pepp

I forgot to say before what a good post you have.

We are in serious trouble if O gets in. Lets see raise taxes on businesses, and if you don't expect them to raise the cost of what they sell to pay for those new tax rates or taxes then you don't have any idea about running a business and you are a complete a**. Any body in business is in it to make money not give it all to the Government.

Isn't it strange that the economy was doing fine under Bush and a Republican house and senate, now the dems are in control and look at what we got. And they have the nerve to say it's Bush's fault. Duh.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 11:55 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Lucy

I imagine it is hard to explain this bail out to someone who lives in Israel. Yeah, we "had" a Constitution, but it seems to be discarded more and more as we go along.

There is nothing in the Constitution about having a bail out paid by the tax payers. Taxation without representation.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 11:59 AM Peppermint2 writes:

beachmom

Thanks. When I saw that program, I couldn't wait to blog on it especially with that part about Roosevelt causing businesses to close their doors due to more taxes put on them.

This is exactly what Obama plans to do, so what can we think except that we could head in the same direction as the great depression.

It's such a stupid idea to begin with. Why the dems can't see that taxing businesses more just sends more of them overseas is beyond me. It seems like common sense would tell you that.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 12:04 PM Peppermint2 writes:

davecat

Yeah, it was a really good special and anyone who didn't catch it last night, it's going to be played again tonight. I would recommend all to watch it if missed.

Ha, ha, love your Obama resume. Just like Clinton said, "just a typical Chicago political thug" is Obama.

I was glad to see on the Asman special too that names were named which I didn't include in my article because I think all of us are aware of just who is at fault for this mess.

But, the thing about the big mistake Roosevelt made hit me in the eyeballs.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 12:08 PM Peppermint2 writes:

davecat

Yeah, the author of "The Forgotten Men" was in the Asman special. That's the woman whose name I can't remember. I wish someone would put that woman's name up so we can all read it. But, I would recognize the book if her picture is on the back cover.

Joe, help. Can you name her? Perhaps I'll watch the special again tonight and get her name this time.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 12:12 PM Peppermint2 writes:

SWAN

Obama will just "take" profits. That should make the businesses really want to stay here. NOT

What a stupid idea. Communism here we come.

Just how many businesses are going to stand for this? I would suspect none of them.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 12:20 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

Thanks.

Your point is good. Of course, the businesses who decide to "stay" here will have to pass that extra tax cost off to consumers. If they want to make a profit and stay in business that is their only recourse other than moving out of the country.

Another good point you made is how well the economy was doing until the dems took control. I think the dems were just waiting for the opportunity for this mess they created to come out right before the election so they can blame it on Bush, just like Pelosi did during her speech, "8 years of a failed Bush policy". I'd like to wring her neck.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 12:21 PM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie

Considering that he's an ex Mainer like me, older even, I kind of expect him to be able to keep stuff like differentiated.
Regular Israelis have much less triuble grasping the concept. They might think that some parts of the Constitution are odd; especially the Bill of Rights and the amendment process, but they do get the differences. Unless they are poloitical or economy reporters working in the States. They don't get it all. Why would they? Leftists one and all. It's a miracle my TV survives me watching the news. Which is why I seldom do!
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 12:23 PM Peppermint2 writes:

To all

I just heard that William Jefferson, the one who had that stash of cash in his refrigerator is running for office. Another dem who gets away with a crime and runs for office most likely to be re-elected again.

And, anyone, just how do we get these people out of office? Someone please explain that crazy concept to me.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 1:15 PM buck writes:

Okay, Pepp, I'll Try To Explain

The morals of the politician mirror the morals of the voting majority of his constituents.
Everyone in this country is aware of the corruption in DC. Everyone wants the corrupt politicians run out of DC. All the corrupt politicians, that is, except THEIR corrupt politician. He brings home the bacon. And the bacon that is off YOUR hog.
William Jefferson promises his constituents more welfare, cheaper section 8 housing free cheese and sterile crack pipes or something. The point is they don't give a damn about his corruption as long as he promises them 'more for less and free cheese'. Voters with no morals have no problem voting for a politician with no morals..
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 1:43 PM Conservabear writes:

Pepp,

Dems + Social Programs = Raised taxes + Unemployment. Tip to Dem Leaders try a little downsizing starting with yourselves in November.
Next liquidate some programs.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 1:58 PM xpressit writes:

Pepp

Well, one point we can count on is "Captain-O" is stubborn enough to carry his plans as far as he can.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 2:25 PM Peppermint2 writes:

buck

Your explanation sounds about right. And since most of the free cheese people are on the dem side we'll never get rid of these criminals.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 2:27 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Conservabear

I like your equation. And your solution, downsize themselves. LMAO. If only we could do that. But, these people keep getting voted back in I guess through Buck's explanation.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 2:30 PM Peppermint2 writes:

xpressit

Yep, Captain O, the Messiah, will do whatever he likes I'm sure with his dem majority in both houses. What's to stop him?

So many people in this country think punishing businesses is the way to go. He's made class warfare his mantra.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 2:33 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Lucy

I see what you mean.

I can tell you I have taken to screaming at Colmes these days. He never shuts his big mouth, interrupting anyone who doesn't agree with him. He does it more than Hannity. It drives me wild and I feel like busting the TV at times too.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 2:56 PM Peppermint2 writes:

To all

Finally got the name of the author of that book,
"The Forgotten Men". Amity Schlaes.

Sounds like a good book to read. Amity is an historian and an economist.

She states in the Asman Report that government cannot solve this problem, it has to be the free market.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 4:17 PM Dogged writes:

Pepp

"I can tell you I have taken to screaming at Colmes these days. He never shuts his big mouth, interrupting anyone who doesn't agree with him. He does it more than Hannity. It drives me wild and I feel like busting the TV at times too."

Most liberals interrupt and talk over anyone and keep getting louder when someone doesn't agree with them.

Many days I'd like to pull an Elvis and shoot my TV too but not having his money I can't go buy a new TV so I just throw a soft dog toy at it instead. Almost as good. And the dog brings it back for next time.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 5:08 PM Chad writes:

free cheese people

Great Post Pep. On the other hand, could sopmeone show me where the "free cheese" clause is in the Constitutiton? I've been looking for it for the last 39 years and have yet to find it.

I am beginning to think it is the regular people like us - ordinary citizens who are informed and sek to inform others - who are the only ones who can really save this republic. Washington stopped listening a long time ago. With very, very few exceptions, they all need to go. 2008 might se the Dems take more seats. If so that cuopleed with more govt. medling in the economy will make things mcuh, much worse - and the media will hype it up. This will make 2010 ripe for a new and true conservative revolution - and I do not mean Republican - I mean conservative.

I may decide in the end to hold my nose for McCain to buy some time, but barring that possibility I have no confidence in the GOP. they have long ago sold out their principles and it is time for them to either make a decisive turn to the right or to wither away and become part of the Democrat Party - perhaps they already have.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 5:56 PM Goshawk writes:

Dogged

I know. It drives me batty that the Repubs let the Dems run all over them. McCain has said that he will not stoop to the same tactics that the Dems use and will remain above the fray.

Well he should know that there is a time to defend oneself no matter what! He better start "fighting fire with fire!" Or he will surly loose.

He says he's going to "take the gloves off" this Tuesday.
We'll see.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 6:04 PM willibeaux writes:

Yo Pepp! I watched

the Asman program this afternoon. The lady was from the CFR and was the author. It's interesting that the sh** hit the fan after the Dems took contol of Congress in 2007. This is only the beginnig if they control the White House and Congress. Lord have mercy.

McCain/Palin 08

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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 6:16 PM Goshawk writes:

Chad

I agree with your post. And your right. The government stopped listening to the people a long time ago. I too would like to see a true 'Conservative Party' emerge, replacing the Republican party altogether. But that will take years if it should come about.

In the meantime, I will vote for McCain in an effort to keep Obama from getting in. It will be hard enough to make conservative changes with a Republican President. But at least we would have a shot at it.

If Obama gets in with a Dem/Socialist majority. The Conservative's won't stand a chance. It will be Socialism all the way. And it may take an armed revolution to dislodge them.

So I say, stop them at the beginning if we can. Don't let them get a stronger foothold than they already have!
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 11:36 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

Ha, ha. That's hilarious. I never thought of throwing a stuffed animal at the TV. That's a good one. I'll try that.

You know what I wish there was? A special button on your remote so that when Colmes interrupts someone, you could push that button, and this big orange boxing glove on a spring would come out and hit Colmes in the head and knock him to the ground.
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Sunday, October, 05, 2008 11:54 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Chad

LOL! Yep, I wonder where the free cheese is too. Never seen it, wouldn't know where to get it.

All I can say is if Obama is elected I hope you're right and people will see the light. But, I don't have much faith in so many of our fellow Americans. Just to think that half the country is ready and willing to vote for him, gives me pause as to their thinking skills.

Hannity had another report on Obama tonight that puts chills up my spine. Now, I know some say that is fear mongering. But we really don't know who this guy is. He keeps his past so covered. Transparency, my butt. He has been involved in some of the most radical groups in this country to the left with socialism and Marxism. It's documented, it's there, all you need to know and put 2+2 together and I don't come up with a capitalist Obama.

Then you have Biden saying, "we'll just take money from corporations or businesses and give it to people who need it". What is that? Pure and simple socialism.

Thanks for stopping by.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 12:11 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Willibeaux

It is interesting that all hell broke loose right before the election. Suddenly we have this so called crisis.

It makes me wonder if there really is a crisis or the dems found this a convenient time to open this up. But then to stand there and lie about just who caused this mess is beyond disbelief. They have gotten so bold with their corruption they about are throwing it in our faces, just daring us to do anything about it.

Thanks for coming by.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 12:57 AM willibeaux writes:

Yo Pepp! It's gonna

get far worst if Obama and a Dem controlled Congress are in charge. Can you visualize the mischief they will cause?
We will have our own "Nightmare Years" comparable to what William L. Shirer wrote about Nazi Germany in the "30s.
Most likely considerably worst.
Turning our country over to Marxist/Socialists to punish the Republican Party is beyond my pay grade to understand.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 1:26 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Willibeaux

It's beyond my pay grade too to understand letting a Marxist take over our country. Gos said tonight he didn't fight communism in Korea to then turn around and have our own country turn into a communist one after all these years. Who would have ever thought this could happen? But, Gos said he has read that the underground commies in this country have been planning this for years.

The dems don't care as long as they are part of the crowd that gets the money. Let the populace eat crap sandwiches.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 2:07 AM xpressit writes:

Pepp

Asman-ed
This reminded me that many of the problems have Chucky-sleeze-Schumer’s fingerprints all over them. Freddie and Fannie – ‘we don’t need no stinking questions’. From 2005: “Things are good in the housing business”… why are people proposing radical change?

Then earlier this year he was front and center in Indymac, to push it over the edge. I never heard how many people lost money. But they defended his leaking, alright, like every other Democrat’s involvement in the problems.

>John D. Hawke, the U.S. comptroller of the currency (regulator of national banks) from 1998 to 2004, had more pointed words for Schumer in a story in the American Banker newspaper.

"If Schumer continues to go public with letters raising questions about the condition of individual institutions, he will cause havoc in the banking system," Hawke said.

"Leaking his IndyMac letter to the press was reckless and grossly irresponsible. I don't see how he can be trusted with confidential information in the future. What this incredibly stupid conduct does is put at risk the willingness of regulators to share any information with the [congressional] oversight committees. After this, you'd be crazy to share information with Schumer."

Conclusion every thing needs regulated except mega-GSE’s.

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Monday, October, 06, 2008 3:17 AM SeanEngmann writes:

The War

One interesting point to make is the parallel between WW2 and the current Iraq war as it relates economically. The conventional wisdom is that the cost of the war is extremely high and that's killing our economy. In reality, the money from the war effort is being pumped back into our economy, creating jobs and income for many American workers. Without these jobs, given our trade deficit and the outsourcing of jobs, where would the American economy be??? The war effort was a key factor in the 1940s getting our economy back on track as well. So why the rush to blame the war and criticize now?
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 9:27 AM Goshawk writes:

SeanEngmann,

Sean, your right. In fact you can find many books on the subject "War as a business." But you will never hear about that aspect from a politician. Especially a Democrat.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 10:03 AM Goshawk writes:

willibeaux

Re: "Turning our country over to Marxist/Socialists to punish the Republican Party."

It is amazing isn't it. When Obama's entire Marxist background has been based on Hating White America, emerging himself in all the anti-American groups that are basically Communist with Communist backing. Not to mention the backing of the Muslim terrorist leaders that want him in the White House. All a matter of record!

Yet there are a tiny few of our own who think McCain is worse than Obama. Because they feel McCain betrayed the "Conservative ideology." They will let this Communist pig take over the Presidency! Unreal!! And some of these people Claim to be vets!

Well, I am one veteran who fought Communism in Korea to maintain our countries Freedom. Having watched way to many of my brothers-in-arms die, and having been wounded several times myself. I'll be damned if I'll just let Communism walk in and take us over! I only have one vote. But I will use it as ammunition against Obama!

As far as I'm concerned, any VET who would allow this to happen is a traitor!
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 11:24 AM BigPapa writes:

Getting so weird now

Watching the stock market and what high financial types are saying this is all getting so spooky. Almost like a perfect storm to get a promiser of nothing like B. Hussein Obama elected.

Keep your powder dry!
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 12:45 PM The Crawfish writes:

Gimpie

Y'all can take our Constitution. We haven't been using it for the past 80 years, and Obama wants it to be thrown out completely anyways......
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 12:47 PM The Crawfish writes:

Goshawk

Regarding vets....

My oath of enlistment says "uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." That means all of us currently enlisted folks are bound by our oaths to oppose Obama. I'm just sayin'.....
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 2:35 PM Peppermint2 writes:

xpressit

Good point about big mouth Schumer. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, which isn't far.

So, what did he do, cause all this havoc? I know one of those dems did and we didn't need that stinking bail out bill if you ask me.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 2:40 PM Peppermint2 writes:

SeanEngmann

Thanks for coming by and that's a good point. Also if we started drilling for our own oil we'd have a lot of new jobs created too.

To just do nothing on the drilling makes no sense to me either.

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Monday, October, 06, 2008 2:44 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Big Papa

Weird? It's more than weird. It's downright scary and dangerous what's going on. But, that's just my take. We'll keep our powder dry and keep an eye out for the brown shirts. LOL!
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 2:59 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Craw

Just wanted to tell ya that I advertise your Obama platform all over the place for people to go read it and see exactly what he has in store for us.

I recheck it every so often to refresh my memory on those devil in the details crap of his.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 3:31 PM xpressit writes:

Well Pepp

I wouldn't say the Schumiester caused it but he is a big part of the problem, along with his ideological comrades. They can't see they are complicit in the problems. What gets me riled is the RNC never challenges these guys in elections.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 3:55 PM Dogged writes:

Pepp / Expressit

Expressit makes a very good point. Could the dems have had Schummer leak that info to start an economic crisis knowing they get higher marks on the economy then Republicans do? It takes the focus away from the war in Iraq that we are winning, bad for them, good for us, and puts it on the economy that they trashed and are now blaming on the Republicans.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 4:21 PM Goshawk writes:

Crawfish

Exactly! I took the same oath. I believed it then, and I'm bound to it still. It's sad that some people can't see beyond themselves and their personal grievances long enough to see the real enemy. Marxist Obama and his Dem/Socialist supporters!
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 7:07 PM Peppermint2 writes:

xpressit

The same thing gets me riled up, actually boiling as to why do the repubs just sit there and take the blame for the crisis?

Just what is their problem? Got an answer to that one? I've been befuddled over it since this all came up.

Here we have this Asman report that tracks the whole darn thing showing just how and when this FannyMae problem got out of control and who the culprits are, but not a word out of the repubs.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 7:09 PM willibeaux writes:

Yo Pepp! This is

for all of the veterans posting on this thread.

"It just makes me sick to imagine our men and women in uniform having to salute this piece of dung, or watching him put his hand up and swear to protect and defend the Constitution, when in fact all he will do is destroy it. No matter how anyone might feel about the shortcomings of John McCain as a “true conservative” (whatever that is), if the image of Barack Obama sitting behind that desk in the Oval Office isn't enough to motivate you to go out and vote for the most viable opposition candidate to defeat Obama, I don't know what will."

By Chimera-Free Republic 10/6/08

These are my sentiments exactly.

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Monday, October, 06, 2008 7:12 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

I don't put anything past the dumborats and that Schumeister as xpressit calls him. It's just too convenient don't ya think? Right before the election? The October surprise?

And, what a mess this one is and today I see hearings going on with that creepy Waxman and the dims blasting some guy from Lehmann Brothers. There they sit, on their thrones, the dumbrats, knowing full well who is responsible for this, themselves, and they are blasting this guy.

I had to tell Gos to turn the TV off. I couldn't take it when the thieves are sitting there like they didn't do a darn thing questioning someone else. Just so utterly disgusting.

I'd like to see some heads roll over this starting with Dodd, Obama, Clinton, and any other dem involved in this FannyMae cover up.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 7:18 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Willibeaux

Thanks for that piece that Chimera from Free Republic.

It appears that it's not just a few of the vets here on TH that feel this way. Looks to be others too.

How very sad it is if you actually think about the whole thing. Here are men and women have fought all these wars to keep others free and have democracy, and now we're turning into a socialist country, probably more communist/Marxist if BO is elected.

I can hardly bare the thought of that POS in the Oval office. All his radical, anti-American activities and to think of him being CIC of our military just boils me.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 7:28 PM willibeaux writes:

Yo Pepp I posted

the same comment on Carol Platt-Libeau's thread today.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 8:12 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Willibeaux

Good, post it everywhere you can. Maybe we can get all the vets hopped up about this traitor.

Good job!
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 8:31 PM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie

Just thought I'd let you know that my absentee ballot arrived today, and that I've marked it and a vote for McCain will be on it's way back to Maine in the morning.
Strangely enough I didn't have any need, nor any desire at all to hold my nose while marking it.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 9:43 PM Dogged writes:

Pepp

I'd like to see some heads roll about this as well.

I haven't seen any of the Dumbs calling for hearings and investigations as to how this all got started.
Yes, this is probably that October surprise they have been talking about. Amazing how they knew about this before it happened. But they blame the Republicans and Bush.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 9:51 PM Goshawk writes:

willibeaux

Re: Chimera at Free Republic. Truer words were never spoken!

Thanks for sharing that info!
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 10:04 PM Dogged writes:

Gos

I sure hope McCain takes those gloves off and as you said starts "fighting fire with fire."

I'm hoping he will start Tuesday night before it's too late.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 10:39 PM xpressit writes:

Dogged & Pepp

I'm inclined to agree, Dogged. Aren't the Liberals' "favorite words what did they know... and when did they know it?" Well, of course knowing is not an admission with them. But knowing while failing to act could be like "criminal" -- and this would not be the first case. For them to state Schumer's leak had nothing to do with the consequences is absurd, and that is pretty much what they claim.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 10:53 PM Dogged writes:

Xpressit

It's good Schumer is a Dumbocrap otherwise they would be calling for hearings and demanding he resign. But because he is they all back him up saying he did no wrong. And we are suppose to believe it.
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 11:16 PM Sanfrisky writes:

I'm shocked

to hear that there are some vets out there that are not going to defend our Country and Constitution in this election! Why would any vet let a man like Obama, a true enemy, become President!!?

Speaking as a Nam Vet myself, I can plainly see the enemy is Obama! And his intentions are to undermine our Republic form of government, replacing it with socialism or perhaps Communism.

No vets that I know are voting for this fake even though many are not happy with McCain. Good lord! At least McCain is a true and honorable American! He is not some lying phony like Obama who suddenly came out of the dark from nowhere!
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Monday, October, 06, 2008 11:59 PM Goshawk writes:

Dogged

That is so true! The Dim/Libs controlling Congress are a disgrace. They will hold hearings to investigate a Repub if he/she sneezes at the wrong time. But will defend and re-elect the worst crooks among themselves.

Like Pepp says, these thieves, (criminals all) make a big show of sitting in judgment when they are the ones that should be put on trial and prosecuted.

And yes, your supposed to believe them because they say so! After all They (the Dims) constantly tell us what “America believes!”
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 12:49 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Lucy

Good for you, and I don't think I'll be holding my nose either. Now I would if I had to vote for BO, that's a real stinker.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 12:53 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

Yes, it's truly amazing the machinations of the dumborats. This time their October surprise was a real doozy. They couldn't have thought this one up at the last minute. It must have been in the works for quite awhile.

And, sure enough Bush gets blamed and takes it as usual. He should have been naming names. What the heck is wrong with him.

The dims figure they have all the power now and no one can touch them.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 12:56 AM Peppermint2 writes:

xpressit

Schumeister is a snake. And, the snake sneakily bit. Now we have this mess on our hands when they knew it was coming to this. This is totally outrageous and no heads will roll over this but the poor CEOs who got caught up in their evil plans.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 1:01 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

Schumer will never resign. What dumborat does? Here the other day I hear that guy who kept that $90000 in his freezer is running for office again, most likely to be elected.

Now if this were a repub, he would be tarred and feathered, put into jail, made to do the perp walk and we would hear endless talk about him/her on the talk shows. The dumbs would NEVER let it go.
We would hear about it for years, just as they and all their liberal fans have chanted for almost 8 years, "Bush lied, people died".

Why don't we hear about Obama's infanticide "Obama lied, babies died"?
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 1:36 AM Peppermint2 writes:

SWAN

I posted to you and it went into cyberspace. Who knows if it will show up.

Anyway, I wanted to say thanks for returning to my blog.

I think your thoughts reflect those of many vets all over this country who have fought for our country to be free and now look what a mess we've got. It's ironic that all the military has fought all over the world for people to be free and we may very well end up being a communist nation.

The Dark One, the False Messiah, is about to take our country and turn it into only God knows what.
It's really sad to think of it. I never dreamed I would see such a thing in my lifetime.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 1:41 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

Speaking of the dumborats, did you take notice of what Biden said during the debate? He said he voted to go into Bosnia when Clinton wanted to save the people from genocide.

I found that interesting since he thinks Iraq was such a mistake, but the people were being killed and tortured there, and Saddam had gassed all those Kurds. I guess Biden thought that was OK for those people to be killed.

Such compassion for Bosnia, but not for the people of Iraq. And, oh yeah, he allegedly voted for women not to be abused, but the Iraqi women were being raped and tortured and he didn't see anything wrong with that apparently.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 4:50 AM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie

What with all those (how many are they now? 10? Crispy Critter Cretins talking trash, it was quite a pleasure to vote McCain. A vote for McCain is also a vote against their stupidity.
It's also a vote of thanks to all those who served and are still serving.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 6:59 AM Dogged writes:

Pepp

The Dumbs have probably been thinking this surprise up for some time now. Your right they couldn't think this up overnight it had to take months of planing as it took months to implement.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 8:49 AM Sanfrisky writes:

Peppermint2

It makes me nauseated that some Americans cannot see the danger this Black Messiah poses to the country if he's elected. I'm sick of reading that "voting for a third party is NOT a vote for Obama!" That irrational, convoluted thinking boggles the mind!

For instance they rationalize that if they vote for Barr. That is a vote for “Barr” not Obama! And they do this knowing that Barr has no chance whatever of being elected! So that vote is wasted. They may as well not vote at all. And not voting for McCain is as good as giving the election to Obama on a silver platter!

These people think that the 700 billion dollar Bail-Out is bad and is socialism. But completely ignore the fact that Obama IS a socialist with a communist background!

Obama has stated that he is going to TAKE 800 to 900 billion of taxpayer money for HIS World Poverty program! In addition to taxing every citizen $2,500 a year to support the United Nations! And perhaps worse, he wants the United States to have the UN make all our Worldly decisions. Thus giving away our sovereignty!

He has stated that he wants to create an “Internal Security Force” stronger than our military! What is that all about!? It can only be the equivalent of Nazi control, and his intentions to put down any dissenters and opposition with Force!

Yet these people, in there sick way of thinking, think McCain is worse.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 11:08 AM The Crawfish writes:

Those who refuse

to learn from history are doomed to be liberals.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 11:10 AM The Crawfish writes:

Pepp

keep up the advertising! Thanx.

I've started running that series over at vajoe.com and it turns heads fer sher.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 11:46 AM willibeaux writes:

Yo Swan! Your

11:16 AM post yesterday was on the money. I cannot for the life of me understand how vets could lower theirselves by wasting their vote. Their dislike for McCain and wanting to punish the Republican party is beyond my pay grade to understand.

One vet to another
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 1:08 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Lucy

Good for you. And, the Crispy Critter cretins are so full of themselves. Their self aggrandizement is beyond belief. Of course no one knows anything but them. It's nothing more than an orgy of stupidity amongst a few nut jobs.

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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 1:13 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

Yep, these dims knew this FannyMae was going to blow up. So, suddenly it blows up prior to the election. Too coincidental don't ya think?
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 1:27 PM Peppermint2 writes:

SWAN

Well, Swan, I guess you must have visited a certain blog to get that info. I would advise staying away from there and certainly I would not leave any comment there for your own good.

Yes, I'm aware of BO's platform and policies so well described by Crawfish. I would suggest that you visit his blog. It's on my blog roll, called The Swamp. He has all the info on just what BO plans if you don't have every detail, you will get it all there.

An internal security force is a bit overboard unless he plans on using them for some very dark reason, keeping the masses down when they start to rebel under a socialist/communist government.
I see lots of people talking about it on the threads, plus Thomas Sowell has had good columns on Obama if you haven't read Sowell. Now he's a black man calling out another black. So I wonder if certain people would call him a racist too.

Turning our sovereignty over to the UN should make most people in America shake in their boots, but I think there are many people who are unaware of his policies or don't seem to care.

I also can't believe that people would allow this BO to just take the WH with all the information that is out there about him. All you have to do is read his own books to see what the man's about. But there are some reporters who have dug even further, like Stanley Kurtz, who has found out that Obama is not just an associate of Bill Ayers, the terrorist, but an ally. Sowell states that in his most recent article.

But, unfortunately if you believe the truth you are called a fear mongerer and a race baitor. It's disgusting.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 1:32 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Crawfish

No problem. You are welcome. You did such a good job of posting all those policies of Obama. I'm sending a lot of my friends to your blog to read them who don't read TH. They are amazed at what they learn from his policies.

And, yes, if you don't learn from history, we are likely to turn into another pre Nazi era with the Messiah being worshiped as was Hitler. I'm seeing all kinds of writings on this and it's eerie to say the least.

I believe Thomas Sowell wrote about this too. He's one brilliant man.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 1:39 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Oh SWAN

If you feel a need to comment on that crispy blog, you'll get yourself hammered. My husband, Goshawk got into a debate with the author of that blog who he thought was a friend. This guy got backed into a corner by my husband, Gos, and when he saw he was backed up against the wall, he came at Gos like a rabid dog. It was unbelievable. Friends don't do things like that. The guy Gos thought was a friend started behaving like liberals usually do, getting down into the gutter with name calling and derision.

So you have fair warning from me anyway.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 2:58 PM Sanfrisky writes:

willibeaux

I'm with you! "Punish the Republican party"?? If Obama manages to become President the whole country will be punished!
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 3:32 PM Sanfrisky writes:

Peppermint2

Thanks for the info about Crawfish's Obama policies. I'm a newbie on Townhall and trying to learn my way around. I'll go right over there! We need all the info on this guy we can get. As it is said "Know thy enemy!"

I do read all of Thomas Sowell's columns and own some of his books. He is one brilliant man. I did read his column this morning and left a couple of comments.

Thanks for the warning but is not necessary. When I took a look at that blog I found it to be a mutual admiration society. With a few people slapping each other on the back, talking about how great they are for standing against McCain. And how much smarter they are than everyone else on Townhall for doing so. I didn't waste my time leaving a comment.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 4:11 PM Peppermint2 writes:

SWAN

Good for you. I see you don't need my advice. How silly of me to have been so presumptuous. My apologies.

I see you are really into Thomas Sowell. He does have some of the best columns on TH. The man is simply brilliant how he puts something into a nutshell and says a ton of worthwhile things.

What I really like about Sowell is he gets to the point in simple language,not trying to sound like a super intellectual, which he obviously is.



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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 4:34 PM willibeaux writes:

Yo Swan! If You

get a chance sashay over to Sowell and check my post. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the trolls and the anti-McCain folks don't attack me. At my age I really don't give a rat's rear end what they say.

One vet to another
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 6:02 PM Sanfrisky writes:

Peppermint2

You’re so right about Dr. Sowell. You know, you hear a lot of talk about people who are against Obama because he's Black. There will be some of course but I would vote in a minute for Thomas Sowell if he were to run for the Presidency!
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 6:07 PM Sanfrisky writes:

willibeaux

Will get right over to Sowll's column! Can't let you battle alone! LOL.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 6:40 PM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie

I think I'm in love. That Swan is one savvy character! Figured out the Crispy Crtitter Cretins in no time at all.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 6:57 PM Sanfrisky writes:

willibeaux

Read your comment on Dr. Sowell's column and left a reply to yours.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 7:01 PM Sanfrisky writes:

Purplegimp

Now now, you'll be making me blush. Ha ha ha.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 7:28 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Lucy

Swan does seem to be pretty savvy. It didn't take him long to figure it out, but you know there's a lot of people who got the Crispy Critters pegged. I've seen one of them get creamed on one of the threads, told he was nothing but hot air and other things I won't repeat here.
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 7:37 PM Purplegimp writes:

Swan

Don't worry. You are safe. My heart is already spoken for by a raving communist.
I am much impressed by how quickly you caught on. We need more like you here.
When are you starting your own blog? Soon please?
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 7:39 PM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie

Creamed Crispy Critter? Yum. Where? I gotta see that!
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Tuesday, October, 07, 2008 7:58 PM Peppermint2 writes:

LUcy

Creamed crispy are good for lunch. A lot of air and not much substance, reduced caloric content ya know.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 12:11 AM Dogged writes:

Swan Good Comment

Your comment at 8:49am Tuesday is right on the money, but you did forget a couple of things that Obomb wants to do. He now has his lawyers trying to stop the NRA from running ads about how he wants to take away our right to own guns. So even before he gets elected he is already trying to take away our 1st & 2nd Amendments.
God help us all if he should get enough corpses from the cemeteries to vote for him.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 1:01 AM Sanfrisky writes:

Dogged

Yes I didn't think of that, you’re right. Also the Dims had a reporter arrested and taken away for taking pictures of Congressmen going into a secret meeting in a Hotel. The reporter was on a public sidewalk and breaking no laws.

The police in Chicago were given orders to arrest anyone on the street they heard criticizing Obama.

His lawyers have threatened to sue any advertiser that criticizes or shows Obama in a bad light.

Conservative Talk Radio stations are being bombarded with threats from Obama supporters. Flooding the phone lines an jamming e-mails.

Just think what he'll do if he becomes President!
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 3:45 AM TNconservative writes:

Scare Tactics on the Asman Report.

So it was big business that caused the great depression and hurt so many American people?

All because they didn't want to pay their taxes.

I really wonder at arguments like this.

We had better do what big business wants because if not, they will make us pay more for things.

So basically we had better carry the water for them or we will be punished with high prices and losing jobs.

I don't see a whole lot of free society in that myself.

And that would only go to further hurt the image of republicans and conservatives with the public who would be hurt by it.

But anyways, this is pretty typical McCain hype, and I don't think your red state, small town conservatives have much to gain from McCain.

Now Sarah Palin however, you run her at the top of the ticket four years from now, and there might be some real excitement.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 3:49 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Swan

It was St. Louis where some DAs and some police were joining up with the Obama camp to keep criticism of Obama out. They threatened to arrest people over it. The governor was very disturbed over this.

Also a report named Stanley Kurtz had gotten the papers on the Annenberg Project that Obama and Ayers worked on together to radicalize all the schools in Chicago. He was on a talk show in Chicago when the Obama camp emailed and phoned threats to shut down Kurtz.

The Annenberg Project was to have kids educated in how to go against the government, nothing to do with education. But, the issue was it tied Obama and Ayers together much more than just being "neighbors".

Also Obama funneled funds from the project to other "community" projects like ACORN.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 3:52 AM Peppermint2 writes:

TNCon

I think you misread the article or are on the wrong thread. No one here said big business caused this financial problem, nor did they Asman report.

You must be lost.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 4:11 AM TNconservative writes:

Just reading what you posted.

"This point seems very important to me. Why? Because this is exactly what Barack Obama plans to do, raise taxes on businesses. How many businesses will close their doors this time and unemployment will rise? Will Barack Obama’s plan to raise taxes on businesses cause the next Great Depression?"

The basic theme of the argument seems to be that if businesses are taxed then they will close their doors rather than pay the taxes, thus causing unemployment and hurting the American people.

BO's plan, atleast from what he says, is that he will raise taxes on the oil companies, and wealthest 5% of this nation.

I don't see how you could act as though my comments have nothing to do with your blog posting when the subject was taxing businesses.

Perhaps you forgot what you wrote your blog about.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 5:30 AM Peppermint2 writes:

TNCon

How can you deduce from what I posted that anyone was against big business. No one here wants businesses to be taxed out of business for bloody sake.

Your point makes absolutely no sense. Perhaps you should try reading that book, The Forgotten Men, about how the depression dragged on and why.

It was because of the taxes the businesses closed. What businessman in his right mind is going to keep his doors open when all his profits are going to the government? He will probably move out of the country to another country where the taxes on business are much lower. We have the 2nd highest tax rate on businesses in the world. Is it any wonder companies don't want to conduct business here?

And, Obama plans to tax those making over $200,000. That includes a whole lot of small business owners who will not be able to operate or employ people. Thus unemployment starts to get rampant. Get it?

If you don't get it I would suggest you go to Crawfish's blog, The Swamp, it's on my blog roll and read Obama's policies set out in his platform. Crawfish did an excellent job of posting all of it. There you will see how Obama plans to tax people. And if businesses stay in business after their big tax hikes, guess who will pay that extra tax? You and the rest of us in increasingly higher costs for goods.

So, in effect, it's just another tax on every person in this country, poor, middle class, and the rich, that is if the rich have anything left over after he gets done taxing them into oblivion.

So in effect his taxing big business the cost will be passed onto the consumer. Not exactly a break if you ask me. You just end up paying the extra taxes in a sneakier way. He really has no idea what he is doing and will make things far worse. He says he is going to give the middle class a break, but that won't happen when more of their paychecks go to paying higher prices for the taxes he throws on business.

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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 6:14 AM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie

I think there's an escaped Crispy Critter in need of remdial reading here.
I just reread your post and you are spot on. I wonder if maybe he's confused Bam Bam with McCain (for whom I've already voted by absentee ballot) and transferring the positions of one to the other. Sad.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 6:28 AM TNconservative writes:

Peppermint2,

I get your point about BO taxing business and this making it harder for a few small businesses to continue to run.

And maybe you are right that it could do this to some struggleing small businesses which live paycheck to paycheck.

But doesn't that kind of ignore the fact that the business world is full of multi-millionarres?

I mean, not everyone running a business is broke.

It is out of greed that tax expenses would be passed on to the consumer.

My point therefore is that I don't want to carry the water for greed. I think it makes conservative causes look bad to people who might otherwise be for them.

I don't support BO, and you might be right about him being a liar and taxing everyone.

But what he claims is his plan is to impose high taxes on richest 5% in this nation.

To me, if your in the richest 5% then you probably don't have much to complain about.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 9:38 AM crossbow writes:

great point!!!

and does the almighty barack knows what will happen to jobs when he taxes the "rich corperations" NO. but he will when the pink slips are passed out . GREAT point Pepp2.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 10:37 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Lucy

How sad and how true. I think there was a problem with reading comprehension.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 10:45 AM Peppermint2 writes:

TCON

If you were a rich man who had struggled all his life to build a business, I think you might view this somewhat differently. Why would you want to hand over the profits of your business to government for redistribution? That's called socialism. Somehow I thought we lived in the USA. Then the government comes along and says, "oh you're too greedy for making that money and takes it away from you".

Come on man, you're talking socialism.

Greed is relative.

Making a profit in business is what business is about.

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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 10:50 AM Peppermint2 writes:

crossbow

Thanks for coming by and it is a point that we can all reflect on when going to the voting booth. Geesh, this guy BO is going to make things hell for us.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 11:03 AM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie

I think the problem is much more serious than just reading comprehension. All the remedial reading classes in the world won't solve anything.

Sad

Pathetic
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 11:04 AM davecatbone writes:

Pepp

This talk about Obama's tax plan is best described by Neil Boortz:

"You're going to lower taxes for 95% of the people? Perhaps you don't know this, but 45% of American wage earners don't pay any federal income taxes. That places the entire federal income tax burden on just 55% of income earners. Please ... we're waiting ... tells us how you lower taxes on 95% of the people when only 45% are paying those taxes in the first place. I suspect that when you start explaining your plan we're going to learn that what you're really proposing is not tax cuts, but income redistribution."

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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 11:33 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Heads up to all

Purplegimp has a new post up explaining the political process in Israel. It's a must read on a different system than ours and how things operate in Israel.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 11:36 AM A Right Brainer writes:

Hiya Pep

Great discusion here.

If I may add my .02 to it. It is simple math via class warfare.

First and foremost the argument that it is ok to raise one segment of a societies population's tax burden by decrying "fairness" is straight out of the communist manifesto.It is a distraction from the reality of proven economics.

It ignores percentage, because of multiple zeroes. Think about that for a second.

If you make $100 5% = $5
If $1,000 = $50
If 10,000 = $500

But the net result is still 5% of the income. Tax-the-rich folks use this as "they can afford it", and avoid the morality of redistribution, or rather the lack there of. They do this by saying they can afford it, based on the number of zeroes in rich man's bank account.

If it is bad to raise taxes 5% on lowend earners, it is equally bad to raise them on high end earners. I'll go one step further... Its actually worse. In a Capatilist society it is frequently the high end earners that employ the low end earners. To your point, Pep, one of two things happens when taxes are increased on high end earners, they refuse to participate by closing their doors, thus unemploying people, and lowering tax revenue to the treasury, or they pass the cost on to buyers, lowing the value of low end income. Thus a dollar is stretched further (read buy less) further degrading the tax base to the treasury.

The simple mathmatics, proven throughout europe and here over history, is that you cannot tax a nation into prosperity.

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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 11:51 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Gracie

Ditto.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 11:57 AM Peppermint2 writes:

davecat

That's exactly right. And why McCain does not correct him when he spouts of this nonsense about a tax reduction for 95% of the people is beyond me.

The people who believe BO have got to be very uninformed.

Besides that every tax payer got a reduction in taxes with Bush. That's another one that kills me every time I hear the "middle class" got nothing.

Obama's plan is pure and simple socialism. And he uses the class warfare tactics. It's disgusting.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 12:04 PM Peppermint2 writes:

RightBrain

Of course you can't tax people into prosperity. It's utter nonsense.

As I stated before, why should a business stay here when they can operate cheaper and make a better profit in another country with a reduced tax rate?

To even think you can tax the country into prosperity is as stupid as stupid gets.

And, why should a rich person have to hand over money to people who refuse to work and aren't paying any taxes anyway. What a nincompoop idea.

Greed. I'm so tired of hearing that word greed. Yeah, maybe some CEOs who ruined their business and left their employees and stock holders in a mess are greedy, but most businesses are run on very small profit margins.

I also get tired of hearing about the big oil companies making such "huge" profits when their profit margin is 8%, far less than some other businesses.

If we want oil companies to expand and meet our needs how are they going to do that if their profits are just "taken" away as Biden says they will do. Stuck on stupid.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 2:20 PM willibeaux writes:

Yo Pepp! You may

have a Brianista posting some mindless drivel. Perhaps it's 'arold D. the ex LTC USAF (ret.) (almost RIFFED) from Scraton PA using an alias.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 2:34 PM xpressit writes:

Shock and awe

Pepp: Yea, this is some October surprise. It's so surreal that the guys who were part of creating the problem are the first and loudest ones to say we need to trust them to fix it. That was clear in Pelosi’s rant on the first bill. Its like watching an “Our Gang” marathon.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 2:35 PM Purplegimp writes:

Willibeaux,

That particular Brianista sounds incredibly like the leader of the pack. Worry not. We are taking good care of/with him.
Orphans of the Crispy Critter type are welcome here until they start with their name calling nonsense.
Dontcha trust the Women's Guild?
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 2:51 PM xpressit writes:

Class war-fair

Pepp,
Sure Demo-crats are all for people making more, and striving to improve (“Go for it”); just that they believe you should get to keep a smaller percentage of it.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 3:13 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Willibeaux

Sure he's a crispy who obviously has some very big problems with reading comprehension. Or he reads things that don't exist. Who on this blog ever talked about being against big business. then he comes back and talks about greed in big business. Somewhat conflicting would you say? I know it's confusing, something I call crazy making.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 3:24 PM Peppermint2 writes:

xpressit

You got that right. It's surreal. Here we have the criminals sitting there banging on their desks at CEOs who got caught up in their (the dems) little mortgage package pushed on banks etc.,

Surreal? I think I'm in another world when I see this stuff. I can't believe my own ears and eyes practically until I see the reruns of this stuff. then I know for sure I actually did see this.

I hear even though the dims are fighting real hard to not have fannymae investigated they are going to have to give in. Then the crap is going to hit the fan. I can see Chris Dodd up there trying to defend his position. If he ever gets called to testify.

Heads should roll on this, but the stupid electorate will vote them back in. Stuck on stupid. That's my mantra for the day.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 3:30 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Lucy

That's right. We have the Women's guild which does not allow bullying on this blog. No name calling for those who choose to vote differently than others. It's nobody's business anyhoo. People have the right to vote the way they want to and not be bullied and harassed about it. That dog don't hunt here.

And if one of the Crispy's wants to do his/her dirty business on this blog they will told to leave. I won't tolerate it. There's enough barroom brawling going on at other places. I don't need it here.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 3:36 PM Peppermint2 writes:

xpressit

Right. AS long as you hand profits over to them and if you don't they will "just take it". Now perhaps I'm wrong, but where is that in the Constitution?

I thought we were a republic, not a socialist, Marxit country. I must have been dreaming all my years here in the USA. When did our country change over to good old communism?
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 3:57 PM willibeaux writes:

Gimp Dahlink! Ah trusts

de wimmins guild as long as dey keep dere straight razors in dere cases.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 5:24 PM Dogged writes:

Pepp

Your right if a repub was keeping $90000 in his freezer because he didn't trust banks or for what ever reason, we would never hear the end of it even if he had earned the money legally. They would start an investigation into him or her.
I am so tired of hearing "Bush lied, people died". I guess all the dumbs that saw the same intel lied as well and they voted for this war too. So if Bush lied then all the dumbs did too.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 6:05 PM Dogged writes:

Pepp

I completely missed that Biden remark about voting to go into Bosnia. I guess the Iraq people aren't important to him.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 6:25 PM Goshawk writes:

Wow!

I was busy painting for an upcoming art show. Looks like I missed a lot of super conversation!

Pepp, all good replies to TNconservative. He obviously does not understand the economics of business. Nor the tax structure as it exists today. His argument sounds very much like that of a Liberal.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 6:27 PM Dogged writes:

Pepp

"Yep, these dims knew this FannyMae was going to blow up. So, suddenly it blows up prior to the election. Too coincidental don't ya think?"

It's a shame that the dumbs can't plan as well to do good for the voters who put them there as they do to harm us.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 6:47 PM Purplegimp writes:

Willibeaux, Dahlink

If'n us wimmins guild keeps der straight razors in der cases how will we be able to slice and dice der Crispy Critters?
You just gots to learn to trust us.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 8:02 PM Dogged writes:

Swan

Thanks, I had forgotten about the reporter who was arrested for doing his job.

I didn't know that the Chicago police were given orders to arrest anyone criticizing Obomb but it does make sense. After all he is from Chicago.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 11:28 PM Goshawk writes:

A Right Brainer

Re: you're post @ 11:36AM.... Your right on! It's sad that so many people do not understand this. Perhaps that's because most people have never been in business for themselves, or ran one. The average populace lives from paycheck to paycheck. And never question how their employer is able to pay them. They're only
concerned that they get paid.

They don't understand the overhead that a business owner must meet. Part of which is the employee pay. The long list of Federal, Sate and local taxes, a long list and cost of various permits, enviro regulations, insurance of all types, material costs, shipping and
transportation. To name a few.

All of this must be paid for by the sale of a product or service offerd at a reasonable price.

What TNconservative says, sounding like a Liberal, is that the owner is greedy and just don't want to pay the tax's imposed by Obvomit. When in reality, if the cost of producing a product exceeds the price you can get for it. The company is failing and must cut back on expenses anyway that it can. If that can't be
done they go out of business. Obviously, no one benefits then.

Regarding you're percentage scale. It also applies to the Cost of Living increases. Only in reverse. If the average worker making $48,00 a year and gets an 8% cost of living increase. That is a mere $3,840. If a Senator making $150,000 a year taking the same increase. That's a whopping $12,000. But you never hear them talk about that. In their search for fairness and equity.
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 11:39 PM Goshawk writes:

willibeaux

Hey Beaux! Most of the Red Neck women I know carry guns! And that includes Pepp. Razors and knives are fo da Sistas. LOL!
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Wednesday, October, 08, 2008 11:49 PM Goshawk writes:

Purplegimp

Trust you gals?? As long as ya'll air true down ta earth strong and real American women. And not da phony Liberal girls.

Be over to read you're new artiicle!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 12:24 AM willibeaux writes:

Yo Goshawk! Ah knows

all about dem der rednecks wimmins and dere equalizers. An de soul sistas! They sure know how to use dem dere straight razors which reminds me of a story.
There was this Black army sergeant and his unit who were surrounded by a bunch of Germans. The Germans charged and our guys ran out of ammo. The German leader comes up to the sergeant and says " now I have you". The sergeant whips out his razor and swings at the German. The German says " you missed". The sergeant says " Oh yeah, you jist shake your haid".

Laugh dang it

Pepp! You said I could post anything I wanted to.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 12:27 AM willibeaux writes:

Gimp Dahlink! When you

and dat other bad motorcyle wuz part of de Pepp's Mosad, did youse carry straight razors?
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 12:44 AM Goshawk writes:

willibeaux

LOL! Yeah that's an oldie that I had forgotten about. But still a good one!

Yeah I know a lot about knife fighting. And as Pepp knows, have the scars to show for it. Oh me....

Ha! had the sergeant had his .45 the German wouldn't have had much of a "haid" left to shake!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 2:40 AM Goshawk writes:

Hey willibeaux!

Just read and left a comment on Thomas Sowell's new column. It should get the Liberals all upset.

Come join the fun!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 3:24 AM Purplegimp writes:

Willibeaux, Dahlink

Of course we did! Only broblem is dem straight blades aren't much use as tooth picks!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 4:44 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

I wish Palin at the time would have said something about the going into Bosnia and going into Iraq. Apparently it was all right to save some people, but when it came to Iraq, with mass graves, gassed people, raped and tortured woman, not to mention the horrifying things done to men who Saddam decided were traitors, those people just didn't count for anything.

Before Bush went into Iraq, I was wanting him to go in just to get those people out of the horrific state they were in. I saw Iraqis come on TV and describe the circumstances and it made me sick. These Iraqis were begging us to do something. I don't know if anyone remembers that. Surely no libs do.

Yet they could easily turn their backs on iraqis and care so much for other people around the world like Darfur which is horrendous. They also forget that when the time came for Bush to go in there, practically the whole country was rooting for it because everyone was scared to death at the time due to 9/11.

And, still, now with all the evidence of what tortures were going on, that WMDs were found, yellow cake was found and exported to Canada secretly, the libs still tell the same old stupid story.

Oh, and they never mention all the AQ we killed there in Iraq. Bin Laden himself said Iraq was the center of the battle.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 4:49 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Willibeaux and Lucy

Besides a gun, I carry a Bowie knife too. Now that's knife no one wants to fool with.

Gos is right, I'm a downright redneck woman now who clings to her guns and bible. I'm one of those species BO hates so much.

Do I care. Nah!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 5:11 AM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie

They took my gun away. Guess they figure it's hard to shoot from from wheely.
I do have a crutch close to hand just in case, and there's always my razor sharp tongue! I'm a rolling arsenal of improvised weaponry.
Be wary, very wary.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 5:19 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Lucy

Just your tongue alone is a WMD. LOL! You don't need a gun. You've got those deadly crutches that you used on Bradturd remember?
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 8:15 AM Goshawk writes:

willibeaux and Lucy

LOL! Pepp is right about the gun and bowie. But I'll tell ya. Pepp is the one not to fool with. She's one strong tough woman and know how to use them accurately! :-)
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 8:21 AM Goshawk writes:

Pepp

Purplegimps "tongue alone is a WMD." Had me LOL! A good one!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 8:48 AM Goshawk writes:

Dogged

I agree with Pepp in her comment about Iraq and the inhumanity and cold blooded cruelty toward their own people. Before the MSM decided to stop showing (censoring) news coming out of Iraq. I saw those pictures of them throwing men off the tops of buildings with there hands tied behind their backs. Chopping off the hands and fingers of some. As well as be heading's. All sorts of horrible torture!

Maybe some will remember when an Iraqi woman was beaten in the street, by a man with a large stick because she left part of her face exposed. And that man was a stranger passing by.

Or the two young Iraqi woman wearing Burkas were taken into the middle of a socker field, made to kneel down, and were shot in the back of the head! Much to the enjoyment of the people gathered all around on the bleachers, cheering like they did in the Roman Coliseum.

I was so mad I would have killed Hussain myself if I could have gotten to him!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 9:39 AM Goshawk writes:

Saw on

Fox and Friends this morning. They were talking with a couple of guests about Ovomits connections with Ayers
and Acorn who are his allies.

When they had a member of the Ovomit campaign come on and tried to deflect the attention away from Ovomit. Every time Gretchen asked him a question this guy would deny any connection and say such lies as "The American people KNOW there is no connection!" "And besides, The *American People* want to hear about McCain's 300 billion dollars in new taxes!"

This guy would not shut up and tried his best to drown out Gretchen! Another form of trying to indoctrinate the public and shutting down Free Speech.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 10:05 AM Purplegimp writes:

St. Gracie and Goshawk

Thanks for the compliments guys. Indeed my tongue is a very effective WMD. I'm just glad it's always been mine and no one can claim I took it from an Iraqi arsenal!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 11:03 AM davecatbone writes:

Pepp & Goshawk

The media is so far in the tank, it'll be tough for McCain to pull this out, but not impossible. I just did a piece called Surviving an Obama Presidency. We should make contingency plans.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 11:05 AM davecatbone writes:

Pepp & Goshawk

The media is so far in the tank, it'll be tough for McCain to pull this out, but not impossible. I just did a piece called Surviving an Obama Presidency. We should make contingency plans.

Hope this didn't post twice!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 11:38 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Lucy

You don't need a gun with your WMD. Besides those crutches are deadly. Michelle Obama would not want to meet us in a dark alley, even though she is just another sista thug, probably is good with a knife. But, no match against the two of us.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 11:44 AM Dogged writes:

Pepp

You are so right when it comes to Iraq the liberals are all against the war now. At the start of the war against Iraq everyone was for it.

What they fail to realize is that we actually won the war against in record time. Then AQ came into Iraq and started causing all kinds of trouble. This has become the front in the war on terror.

I don't understand why the libs think it would be better to be fighting the war on terror in the streets of New York and Washington DC or any other large US city.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 11:56 AM A Right Brainer writes:

Gos

Regarding your comments on my comment:

Dalgone straight, when they talk about faiorness they are just fishing for the basest motivations of humanity; greed and jealousy. Greed in wantign what you don't deserve and jealousy in wanting what someone else has.

People just don't get it.. Sadly we need to explain it to them everyday all the time.

I still hold my firm belief in the American people, that we as conservatives can show them a better way.

The only way to confront the tide of government is with a bigger tide of electorate. We have been asleep at the wheel for the last 8 years. Its time we wake up and talk amongst ourselves, about what we think can be done then move the conversation outward to ur spheres of influence.

Keep the faith!

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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 12:05 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Dogged

You are stating an oxymoron, that libs can think. LOL!

They are just dumb and don't want to see the truth of things. They have been blinded by their BDS. To this day they are still angry and bitter about the 2000 election.

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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 12:15 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Willibeaux

We vimmen have more weapons than you could possibly imagine. Michelle O does not want to accidentally run into the vimmen Mossad. She may carry a knife being a sista thug, but she would be no match against the Gimp, me and our sisters in the truth squad.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 1:03 PM Goshawk writes:

A Right Brainer

I'm with you! I also have faith in the American people to see through this Ovomit scam and vote to keep him out.

That may be difficult to do with all the Dim/Socialist lying and the Ovomit Acorn fraud running wild. Plus a few of our own turning against McCain.

Regardless of what the poles show I feel that most Americans see Ovomit for what he really is. We'll see in a few more days.

I agree that "the only way to confront the tide of government is with a bigger tide of electorate." The people do need to wake up and talk amongst themselves and pay attention to what is really going on in government. And stop accepting the politicians lies as something they can do nothing about.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 1:13 PM Goshawk writes:

Dogged

When you say about the Liberals..

"What they fail to realize is that we actually won the war against in record time. Then AQ came into Iraq and started causing all kinds of trouble. This has become the front in the war on terror."

They realize it I'm sure. But they have to stick to their Dimo/Scocialist agenda no matter what. So they argue and lie in an effort to overcome the truth
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 1:15 PM A Right Brainer writes:

To that end

I am working on a post, that will cover more of this ground from what I hope is a different perspective. Should be up in a few hours, would love your's and anyonelse's comments once its done. I'll swing back by let y'all know when I'm done.

Keep the faith!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 2:00 PM Goshawk writes:

A Right Brainer

Sounds good! Will be looking forward to reading it!
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 4:22 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Right Brain

When you let us know about your new post, I have a new one too. Good news too on the subject of McCain finally naming names of dems involved in FannyMae corruption.
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Thursday, October, 09, 2008 11:48 PM Dogged writes:

Pepp

"You are stating an oxymoron, that libs can think. LOL!"

Sorry I didn't realize it at the time, but you are right.LOL!

I don't get it, they still can't except the fact that they lost the 2000 election. Boy talk about caring a grudge.
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Friday, October, 10, 2008 12:03 AM Dogged writes:

Gos

Maybe some of the libs realize the war with Iraq is over. I have met a lot of people who don't think the war against Iraq is over. They are all Dumbocrap's who listen to all the things being told to them by the party higher ups and the MSM. Notice when they talk about the war, it's the war in Iraq not the war on terror going on in Iraq. I read someplace where most of the Dumbocrap supporters have an IQ of less then 100. They believe everything they are told by the party. DUH! After all the party would never lie to them.
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Saturday, October, 11, 2008 12:28 AM Goshawk writes:

Dogged

I think you may be right about some reporters. Those that work for a Liberal media just go out and try to find anything in a story that is anti-conservative or anti-Republican. They sure don't seem to mind distorting or completely ignoring the facts. It must take a certain lack of character to do that.

Then we know some people that like to call themselves conservatives that do the same thing. When they have a private agenda like knocking McCain in any way that they can. Because of their dislike for him. They will ignore any good about McCain because in their childish rationalization there is nothing 'good' about him. At the same time, they see the Very Bad things about Obama as no problem. Saying it's no big deal they'll just vote Obama out if he doesn't perform up to conservative standards. LOL! Yeah like they voted out all the Liberals that have been entrenched for 40 years!

They like to use stats in an effort to convince people they're right.
For instance you see over and over that the NRA rates McCain with a C. What they don't tell you that the NRA is throwing their weight behind McCain and are voting for him. Rather selective info like the Liberals use. Eh Wot?
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Saturday, October, 11, 2008 9:46 AM Dogged writes:

Gos

You are so right. Stats, you can make them or twist them in such a way as to back up any argument you want to make.

You bring up a very good one with the NRA yes, they might rate McCain as a C but where do they rate Obomb? Also, as you said they are backing McCain. Sounds like a C isn't to bad after all.
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