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Comment on:
B.N. Sharpe
The American Constitution
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Friday, April, 25, 2008 4:13 AM
Boris Tiraspolsky
writes:
Incorrect Text of the Constitution
You posted INCORRECT version of the text of the PREAMBLE of the Constitution of the United States in your blog:
PREAMBLE
"We the people of the United States, in order to perpetuate a more perfect Union, maintain justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, and promote prosperity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America, hereafter herein referred to as America."
The correct Text of the PREAMBLE of the Constitution of the United States is:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
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Friday, April, 25, 2008 10:16 PM
Buzz
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The text is not incorrect, Boris
Firstly, I want to thank you for reading and commenting on my latest post, The American Constitution.
Secondly, I am totally aware of the text of the 1787 version of the Constitution. I referred to it line by line and word by word in writing my 2008 version. You obviously skipped over the entire introduction leading up to "We the people..." in which I propose that the time has come, some 220 years after it's ratification to update the document to match matters of modern day American society. For example, the "general welfare" clause has been so prostituted over the years that it has become common acceptance that we the people are to support those people who don't wish to support themselves through an ever burgeoning welfare system. That's why I chose the phrase "promote prosperity" in place of "general welfare". Such subtle differences and some not so subtle changes will be found through- out this document as I continue to post it.
Again, thank you Boris, and let me keep hearing from you.
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Saturday, April, 26, 2008 1:52 AM
Boris Tiraspolsky
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Reply to Buzz
Dear Buzz,
With all due respect to your view that "the time has come, some 220 years after it's ratification to update the document to match matters of modern day American society", my irrevocable position is that it is not the Text of the Constitution of the United States representing ABSOLUTE ETHICS and PERFECT ESTHETICS needs to be updated, but the modern day American society must learn and return almost totally evaded and greatly coerced ABSOLUTE ETHICS and PERFECT ESTHETICS of the Constitution of the United States in every day life.
Respectfully,
Boris Tiraspolsky
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Saturday, April, 26, 2008 9:55 PM
CKHustler
writes:
good idea
starting a constitution discussion. Ive thought about the Federalist papers, but they are a wee bit long don't ya think? lol
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Saturday, April, 26, 2008 10:33 PM
Buzz
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Thanks, CKHustler
I'm ratified to see there is someone with similar thoughts. And you're right; pretty much every political paper ever written, save the Constitution, the Declaration, and the Gettysburg Address is too long.
And I applaud your youthful exuberance in aspiring to political office. But you don't have to become another shyster, charlatan, grifting, grafting lawyer who contributes NOTHING of intrinsic value to society.
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Saturday, April, 26, 2008 10:49 PM
Buzz
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I largely agree, Boris
But I think that it is the few failings within the Constitution, like purposeful vagueness throughout that has allowed American society, as represented by the courts' interpretations and instructions to lose sight of those principles of ethics and aesthetics. Please keep reading as I keep posting and see if there's not some, if not most,or even all with which you agree. For instance, would it not be better to promote prosperity, rather than welfare?
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Sunday, April, 27, 2008 1:19 AM
Boris Tiraspolsky
writes:
To Buzz
Dear Buzz,
I have no problem with the meaning of the word "WELFARE" in the Text and in context of the Constitution of the United States.
The word "WELFARE" exists in English language from the 14th century and simply means: "the state of doing well especially in respect to good fortune, happiness, well-being, or prosperity - there is an old saying: "must look out for your own welfare".
Another matter is the "SOCIAL WELFARE" - all sorts of government programs providing "aid in the form of money or necessities for those in need ", and often also called "WELFARE". The latter did not exist in America before the Great Depression (1929).
Therefore, it is not the fault of the old and noble word "WELFARE" in negative perception it got because of a distortion of the original meaning of the word by those who replaced it with "SOCIAL WELFARE".
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Sunday, April, 27, 2008 11:54 AM
Buzz
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You're correct again, Boris
Which is perhaps the point that I'm most trying to make. As the word 'welfare' has been so grossly prostituted over the years, like so many other words in our most beautiful and complex language, I am seeking words and phraseologies that can't be so easily distorted or misinterpreted.
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Sunday, April, 27, 2008 8:24 PM
Boris Tiraspolsky
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To Buzz
Dear Buzz,
Those who intend to manipulate meaning of words will do it with any word, regardless.
Therefore, we all better off to the best of our "Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." the way it was originally written, and exactly the way the Constitution orders for the last more then 220 years.
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