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Comment on: New Jersey Institute of Theological Studies

Can You follow a Religion That Teaches This?

10 Comments

More LDS Falsity

The Book of Mormon’s reliance on concepts found in the Bible and pre-existing biblical doctrine, and its attempt to mimic Elizabethton English, original language cadences, and the heartfelt passion of prophets that lived their revelations exposes it as a “pastiche.” Pronounced “pass-teesh,” this word is used to describe “a dramatic, literary, or musical piece openly imitating the previous works of other artists.” In other words, the Book of Mormon is not a genuine new revelation, but rather a blatant imitation of the real thing. When reading the Book of Mormon it becomes readily apparent that it is a pastiche of the Bible. The internal evidence indicates that this book was written by an individual who received no new revelations from God, but rather compiled a book that presents a partial and misleading collage of biblical concepts and a mosaic of scriptural words and phrases mixed with false information. I believe a careful survey of the Book of Mormon reveals it is not “another testament of Jesus Christ”, but rather a “false testament of Jesus Christ.”
http://www.learnthebible.org/cults_book_of_mormon__false_te stament.htm

-Miguel

Tanner is your source?

Consider the source of your "facts" cited in this essay. The Tanners are notorious for their deliberate misstatements of LDS doctrine and history. Follow the money. The Tanners make a living being "experts" on Mormonism, but they are neither accurate nor experts.

I don't understand timing but I do understand that the priesthood is available for EVERY worthy male to bless his family.

People wonder about the timing of the revelation giving the rights of the priesthood to all. I wonder what took us so long as a nation to treat each other with respect and brotherly kindness so that this revelation could be given. Maybe collectively we were all the problem.

At any rate it is fun for me to travel around the world and see wonderful black men in positions of authority and service in the LDS church. I have traveled in Africa and other continents and have had the joy of seeing men of all colors serving as leaders in their congregations and in the temple. Women have always had leadership responsibility. But in seeking for visibility and position, we must always remember the teachings of the Savior - to be His servants as best we can and not seek to be greater than one another. We are all equal in His sight.

Blacks have been members of the LDS church since Joseph Smith and their brave pioneer stories are part of the lore of the church. They came across the plains, too. Maybe you just don't know these stories of these early Black saints.

Re printed books by LDS authors. Bruce R. McConkie was an important leader; he wrote his ideas and was widely quoted. His writings are not considered scripture/binding. He was not the President of the Church.

Please make a distinction between quoting ideas of anti LDS authors and the current positions of the Church. There are many popular LDS writers but they speak for themselves, not for the church.

Chaplain Steve

I suggest http://www.blacklds.org/



Shadow or Reality by Jerald and Sandra Tanner isn't a source that will give the whole story.

Mormon Beliefs EMBARRASS Big G

And they should!

You believe:

1) That Joseph Smith was instructed by God to have sex with the wives of other men.

2) That Joseph Smith was instructed by God to marry teenage girls then have sex with them.

3) That Native Americans are descended from Jews.

4) That God gave Joseph Smith the history of these American "Jews" on gold tablets(then took the tablets back!)

5) That Joseph Smith "translated" these gold tablest without looking at them but by reading magic stones that he kept in his hat.

6) That the writings of Joseph Smith are more correct that the bible

7) That the man who said the following is holy!

"I shall be to this generation a new Muhammad" and adopted as his fighting slogan the words, which he thought he had learned from Islam, "Either the al-Koran or the sword." He was too ignorant to know that if you use the word al you do not need another definite article, but then he did resemble Muhammad in being able only to make a borrowing out of other people's bibles.


True or false?

Badcandie refuses to

go to LDS sites, he encourages anti mormon sites.

Big G

In all due respect, you still have not said whether or not the accusations he makes are true or not. Its a simple question, really.

V Daddy

"Big G
In all due respect, you still have not said whether or not the accusations he makes are true or not. Its a simple question, really."

In all due respect, Virginia Daddy, you still insist whatever is presented by a Mormon is not credible. So what's your point?


Simple Questions for Big G

Simple Questions for Mormons(Big G)
1) Was Joseph Smith was instructed by God to have sex with the wives of other men.

Possible responses:

a. Joseph Smith did not have sex with the wives of other men


b. Joseph Smith was in fact instructed by God to take the wives of other men and have sex with them


c. Joseph Smith did take the wives of other men and have sex with them, but when he did so he was sinning and not following God's will.


2) Was Joseph Smith instructed by God to marry teenage girls then have sex with them.

Possible responses:

a. Joseph Smith did not marry and have sex with teenage girls.

b. Joseph Smith did marry and have sex with teenage girls, but it was approved by God

c. Joseph Smith did marry and have sex with teenage girls but he was not following God's will.

More Simple Questions for Mormons

More Simple Questions for Mormons
3) Did Joseph Smith claim that Native Americans are descended from Jews.

a. Yes, this is true.

b. Joseph Smith was wrong about this.

c. Joseph Smith never made this claim.


Which do you believe?

4) Did God give Joseph Smith the history of these American "Jews" on gold tablets(then took the tablets back!)


Possible answers:

a. Joseph Smith never made such a claim

b. The above claim is 100% true.

c. Joseph Smith made the above claim, but he was in error, but not lying.

d. Joseph Smith is a liar.

Which do you believe?

One more Question

7) Do you believe that the man who said the following is holy?

"I shall be to this generation a new Muhammad" and adopted as his fighting slogan the words, which he thought he had learned from Islam, "Either the al-Koran or the sword." He was too ignorant to know that if you use the word al you do not need another definite article, but then he did resemble Muhammad in being able only to make a borrowing out of other people's bibles.


Yes or No?