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From Jesse 'The Mind' Norman
TAKING DOWN THE GREAT ALINSKYITE
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Monday, May, 25, 2009 11:02 AM
Norm
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Taking Down the Great Alinskyite
Great commentary! If you don't mind I'll cross post it onto my website...thanks in advance!
Meanwhile:
Ref:"...willing to say things the way they really are."
Oliver said it here:
http://normanhooben.blogspot.com/2009/05/message-to-obama- and-to-his-cabinet-and.html
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Monday, May, 25, 2009 12:19 PM
davecatbone
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Well done Jesse
A great piece and one of your best. Attack the bias, not the lies. And we see the Mainstream Media sinking in the West.
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Monday, May, 25, 2009 12:55 PM
dawndawn
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The Time To Fight Is Now!
Mind, you wrote: "Obama is out to break people into blocks of voters. That is why he is still campaigning. He's turning people into blocks of voters and then conquering enough of them to keep him in power."
Normally, I do not read E.J. Dionne because he is such a raging amabOphile. But what he has written here fits in with the message you are sending.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/05/25/obama_ and_the_limits_of_mastery_96647.html
Good work, Jesse!
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Monday, May, 25, 2009 1:20 PM
Norm
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Taking Down the Great Alinskyite
Hope you don't mind the picture addition to your commentary...
http://normanhooben.blogspot.com/2009/05/accumulating-power -to-point-it-will-not.html
If you don't think it's appropriate I'll take it down...
Norm
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Monday, May, 25, 2009 2:00 PM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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Norm
Thanks. No, I don't mind and I don't mind the picture either. If you don't mind my suggestion, you should also put my previous blog on there as well, or provide a link to your visitors. I think a link should suffice. I'm flattered you'd put this on your website. Continue to spread the word.
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Monday, May, 25, 2009 2:04 PM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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Davecat
Thanks. I do have to admit my analysis of the book, Obama's use of it, and his weaknesses is dead on. There has to be an end game, and we cannot be afraid to ask questions. What would the end game be by following this book when he's already President and can only have two terms under the current law? He's a young man. If he is re-elected, he wouldn't stop with the ending of his second term. Gathering that much power won't be let go unless someone stops him.
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Monday, May, 25, 2009 2:06 PM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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dawndawn
Thanks. Will look into it. Have a happy Memorial day to you, Norm, and Davecat. That goes to any that read this blog as well.
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Monday, May, 25, 2009 8:08 PM
Norm
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Taking Down the Great Alinskyite
Ref:"...put my previous blog on there as well"
and which one would that be?
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Tuesday, May, 26, 2009 8:20 AM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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Norm
"Put On The Effin' Glasses" is the first part.
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Tuesday, May, 26, 2009 2:16 PM
Garnet92
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A tour de force, Jesse
While I've blogged on the same issue, you've done a much more complete job. I think that it is an important piece and I would like to link to it from Pesky Truth, if approved by you.
I also have an idea to run by you if it's ok to contact you via your e-mail (rather than here). Let me know.
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Tuesday, May, 26, 2009 3:58 PM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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Garnet92
Absolutely, to both questions. jno2179536@aol.com. Thanks for the compliment.
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Tuesday, May, 26, 2009 5:16 PM
TheAdjuster
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Good Advice, but . . .
The most important point you make is one that Americans need to acknowldge and accept. Obama intends to be America's "Beloved Leader" for life! He won't or can't prove his citizenship. He refuses to allow any examination of his background. He lies about his religion. And while he campained as a so-called centrist, he is an avowed collectivist. His Maxism is well documented. His direction into complete socialism and tyrannical control has been established by his already enacted laws. He intends to be king. For those who don't believe it, they will be the poorest of the poor or the deadest of the deceased when all the dust settles on the land of Obama. And for them, the 22nd doesn't even have to be removed from the Constitution. They will be happy with just ignoring it.
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Tuesday, May, 26, 2009 5:41 PM
Mrs. AL (Always Learning)
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Jesse
Superb post. I really can't add any comment that has not already been made. That speaks volumes for those who have already commented.
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Wednesday, May, 27, 2009 10:58 AM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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The Adjuster
Obama's hold already does remind me of Kim Jung Il and how people refer to him as "our beloved leader". If the NY Times printed such a title to Obama, not many would bat an eye. The media definitely see him as their beloved leader even though he just sees them as pawns in his sick game.
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Wednesday, May, 27, 2009 11:00 AM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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Mrs. AL
Thanks. I do think this was my best political analysis in any blog I've written. If anymore ideas come to mind on this same subject, I will get to them, but I think I already did a thorough job.
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Wednesday, May, 27, 2009 7:36 PM
BrianR
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Jesse, well done
First, a heads up. You've got this essay double-posted on your blog. It's up twice before the "effin' Glasses" essay. You also have a different set of comments on the other posting of it.
Terrific essay. The only thing I'd really quibble with is your assurance that Obambi's a sure thing in 2012.
You and I have the same strategy in mind -- obviously, as that's one of my constant themes -- and if the GOP or anyuone else will put it into effect, I believe it can be quite effective.
And IF that happens, Obambi's in deep doodoo in 2012.
First of all, a REAL conervative -- not the McLib version we saw last year -- could easily clean his clock.
Secondly, the policies he's trying to put into effect are self-defeating. They're fiscally untenable, they're collectivist and downright fascist, they're unappealing to Joe Sixpack (cupholder-sized cars that cost as much as a Porsche????).
As the blush goes off the rose, this is going to become evermore apparent to even the dumbest yokel sitting in the cheap nosebleed seats.
THAT'S when he's in the kimchee.
But we do have to keep the pressure on, loud and long and consistently.
Ole Bat Ears is already starting to draw criticism from his demographic: anti-war protesters at HIS appearance today here in LA; criticisms in the MSM of some of his policies. Now, some of the criticisms are because lib elements are disappointed in his (not acting lib enough), and others are questioning the soundness of his proposals (how are you going to pay for that?), but the key point is: the criticism's already ha[ppening.
All good signs.
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Thursday, May, 28, 2009 9:56 AM
Snow Knight
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so true!!
WOW-another winner Jess. What Obama is doing is to have power at all costs--if it means running our country into the ground--so be it. In many ways we have become the united states of enron!!
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Thursday, May, 28, 2009 2:25 PM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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BrianR
Yeah I know I doubleposted it. I should have waited to post it later in the day, but I was finished with it really early in the morning. I double posted it later on to allow more people to see it since most aren't on here at 6:30am.
I don't think you truly appreciate the willful ignorance of the populace. Obama himself said the current spending is unsustainable, but as I said in the previous blog, all the everyday American is going to say in response is "yeah, he's right", and not "well why in the blue hell are you spending so much"? They're not going to get the facts that as bad as Bush was about fiscal responsibility, that Obama's deficit spending is 4 times greater than Bush's last year in office. They don't know that. They don't want to know it. They just know Bush spent too much and Obama is trying to rescue us by spending more than Bush ever thought about spending. The GOP needs someone with nads, figuratively speaking. If they don't nominate someone willing to fight Obama and the mainstream media at the same time, then Obama will be a sure thing in 2012. Him being at odds with those in his own party is him following the Alinsky playbook. They will absolutely elect him anyway, but he can show the dumbed down that he took on those in his own camp.
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Thursday, May, 28, 2009 2:39 PM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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Snow
Even if he runs the country into the ground, or perhaps especially. Thanks for the compliment.
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Thursday, May, 28, 2009 3:03 PM
BrianR
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I actually do understand
But I see things like the Tea Parties and the abject failures of the Props out here in Commiefornia, and I don't think things are as rosy for Bat Ears as the MSM likes to portray them.
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Thursday, May, 28, 2009 4:25 PM
INTHENOW
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Well thought out essay!
I hope your analogies are correct. However, if the statists dominate all three branches (four counting bureaucracy) of government for the next eight years, what will remain of the constitution?
It only protects the individual when recognized and enforced by the feds. Thus far, it has been ignored. If the playing field is altered in such a way that the taxed no longer have recourse or representation, it may come down to State succession. That is, if there are any States left that aren’t just federal appendages.
Everything Obama is doing; strengthening unions, chain immigration (amnesty), swelling entitlements, nationalizing production and banking all are leading to one goal; an undefeatable, government dependent base.
We can win all the oratorical battles we want...it won’t make any difference to the Obama-bots getting sustenance from government. They may even agree with conservative principles; but theory and facts don’t put food on the table...the anointed one does. After the statists have successfully changed the demographics and rules, it won’t matter how bad the dems screw up, because their dependent base will not give up the tit.
I’ve been living in a Europe for going on ten years. The statists here have bred generations of dependants. It’s now the norm and ingrained in the culture. All left and right politics move within the confines of socialism.
However, the Europeans don’t have our history, the constitution, and States rights. But Obama and his Marxist pals are moving quickly to change that. With the exception of the Reagan years, this country has been moving left, and away from the original intent of the constitution for the past 75 years. And the Marxist just went into afterburners.
I’d recommend another short but powerful read “Liberty and Tyranny”. The antithesis of Alinsky.
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Thursday, May, 28, 2009 4:43 PM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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BrianR
Those who participated in tea parties are those who pay attention. Even some that voted for Obama pay attention to what's going on, they were just fooled into thinking he was a different type of politician. Those who voted in California to turn down paying more taxes were a small percentage of the electorate, and I'm sure they also pay attention. These are good signs. No doubt about that, but those numbers pale in comparison to those that are more worried about Jon and Kate than the state of their country. In order for things to work in our favor, the sleeping masses must decide to wake up and actually pay attention to what's going on. I'm afraid by that time they will already be dependent on the government nanny state thinking they need Obama to keep them afloat. I hope I'm wrong.
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Thursday, May, 28, 2009 4:47 PM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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INTHENOW
Thanks. What will come of the Constitution is a great question, because that is the great stumbling block to Obama, who is laughably a constitutional scholar. Who taught him I wonder. "I'm going to fire a CEO of a private company and force investors in another company to take .29 on the dollar". If you have heard these little liberal anecdotal debates about our Constitution (which I'm sure you have), you will hear many say the Constitution must be adjusted to fit the times. BINGO! That's how it will be done. They will either ignore the Constitution (nothing new) or modify it. They think if they ignore the C that the American people also will. They've been right about that so far.
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Friday, July, 10, 2009 7:49 PM
MJSJR
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Jesse "The Mind"
This is the finest post I have seen on this subject. I hope you put this in a book.
President Obama has taken identity politics to an all new level. in a way we have never seen.
I hope the public gets involved before we lose what we have.
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Saturday, July, 11, 2009 1:28 AM
Jesse "The Mind" Norman
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MJSJR
Thanks for the compliment. I worked hard on this, especially at asking myself questions relentlessly. I'm never afraid of or unwilling to asking myself questions. That way I don't cheat myself, even if it goes against my own beliefs. I've considered the book and just might write one, but on a more worldly scale. Thanks.
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