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Comment on: An American Ultramontane

Will audiences forgive Mel?

10 Comments

My opinions are unpopular

but I really don't see that much newsworthiness about what Mel Gibson did. Every single day someone makes a mistake, stupid, irrational, violent, etc. And few aren't in that club.

Gibson is a brilliant filmmaker, and should be seen as such. He's a bit loopy, but most brilliant people are.

Not that I mean to excuse drunkenness

I agree completely. I don't condone excessive drinking, but people do stupid things while drunk. Like Ted Kennedy killing people, but he's still in office.

Mel went on a paranoid rant, and I can forgive him. And you're right, most brilliant people are completely wacko.

Gibson is going to be on Medved

Gibson is going to be on Medved on Friday. Should be interesting.

Mel is nothing but all show!

His drunk stunts are mentioned near the end of this comment.

If you pay attention to Mel's acting career, he has been the incarnation of tragedy (when I say tragedy, that does not have to mean "a bad ending". It simple means unexpected, painfull, bloody, experiences: like "Pay Back"). Nobody can make you feel their pain better then Mel on the screen. He's perfect!

People's souls are hungry to "watch" tragedy! The more the scene of tragedy on the movie screen can transport you there as if it was you, the more you soul hungers to see more or see it again. This lust is inherent in the flesh.

Mel understands this the best, and has practiced this best on the screen for many decades. This is the wisdom and conceit of his heart. Now, far ahead of all his competition, he is producing it, and he is doing a perfect job doing it.

Before and during the showing of "The Passion of Christ' Crucifixion" (the focus of that title is on those doing the dirty work, not on Christ) and to this day, I have said that it is nothing more than more of Mel Gibson, it is not more about Christ. What greater tragedy could he have found to produce on the screen and get the audience's attention then Christ crucified. That is all that the movie was focused on. All the other extra's where to just rehighlight and reemphasize all the cruel and inhumane torture. Were you not transported there?

He is no more a believer in Christ than a Muslim is. He conned the believers with such nothing but cold, calculated, distant comments.

NOW FOR HIS PRESENT CON JOB:

He has had to good of a reputation from his last movie to show this new bloody movie he produced (I have not watched it yet, and probobly won't). He did what the media with Hollywood have been doing for decades to validate themselves to their audience: Mistakes Humanize the figure head. When they get to high up, to good or rich, to distant, and finally to forgotten, they must do their "dirty deed". What happens? Everybody gets to look down on them and feel better than them: above them! Then all of a sudden the celebrity has something to sell to them on the market.
Cramer and Sienfeld's timing was done perfectly. His face will be gathering more dollars soon.
The Paris girls
Marilyn Monroe-w/o underwear
Britney Spears-w/o underwear
Geraldo- one sleazy interview and he has his own show, and he still has viewers. "Geraldo at Large" what a scarey thought.

Mel's incident was purely a scam to bring in the masses! Even now, but much more later when his movie has run out its course at the theaters, his event will be nothing but forgoten.

Why the Mayans or Apocalypto? There has been an increase, and will increase more exponentially in the near future, of interest in the Mayan calender. It has many unexplained accuracies, but one mysterious one on the way- 12/2012. The date can represent two things: a major ending, and/or an important new beginning.Along with that the Mayans were known as a blood thirsty culture. Mel knocked out a double bingo on this one. Prophecy and Tragedy.



There is only one single phrase at the top of Mel Gibson's ice-burg: the love of money!

Mel is brilliant!

Frank, you've really analysed this guy...If he is all that, then he is truly brilliant.

I can't wait to see Apocalypto.

Mel doesn't need our forgiveness...God's forgiveness is the only one that counts.

brilliant!

Yes, Mel is very brilliant, and he is doing a good job cashing in on it. But his brilliance is an evil one. I am sorry to see those who may be of the faith to run so quick to see such darkness. Signs of the times. I suppose he is a puppet on a big string pull on a bunch of little strings.

Thank you both for your comments

But I'll have to disagree with you, Frank. Your analysis seems far too cynical -- almost like you have a grudge against the guy. I don't think it's fair to say that Gibson is motivated by love of money, especially when he's never said that. "The Passion of the Christ" was a moving piece that did transport me back to that time, but it helped me to realize the immense amount of suffering Christ went through for us (and this is from a purely physical aspect, nothing was said of the weight of a trillion sins). Unless you have some reason for accusing Mel being all about the money (and therefore getting arrested for DD on purpose -- dangerous to say the least), you should probably reserve judgment.

the truth will set you free

Mel personally is no issue to me, and never has been. I have always watched his movies thru the years because I enjoyed the entertainment he put out. A few things happened that have influenced me in the direction I am looking.
To mention one, it is Holly Wood that I have an issue with. within the last three years anyway. Their bizzar attacks against the right publicly, and the dark propaganda they have been pumping out in every medium of media has been nothing less then war "on their part". The serpent is baring his teeth in open war as written in Rev.12:17, and that media business is just one leg of it. That's a house I won't enter anymore, but I will do battle against it, as our Savior calls us to.
Mel is a different story. I began to see his genius in 'Payback' when his toes were being smashed. After that everything in his life was easy to read. Pain is his niche in acting. You've got to be just blind and dumb if you can't see that.
And you certainly have to be cowardly to face the truth when it come to the scriptures if you can say anything in my last comment as cynical. We are called to discern and "JUDGE", especially in the hour we live in. The only thing dangerous here is a nation full of would be Christians afraid to call a spade a spade.

I'm not afraid to judge

Just afraid to judge rashly.

"Pain in his niche in acting."

He didn't act in "The Passion" or "Apocalypto." But what is wrong with pain/violence when used in a historical context to tell a story (and not just for bloodlust). Perhaps "Payback" was about bloodlust, but "The Passion" did not seem like it to me.

I called you cynical because you read the worst in every action Mel has committed. Some I can understand, but "The Passion"? He gambled his own fortune on a personal project. Yes it made a lot of money on it, but he certainly didn't know that when he made the movie. He could have easily quit after no production company picked it up.

And equating Gibson with the rest of the media is somewhat ridiculous, seeing as he is ostracized and hated by many of them.

use your thinker

Those on the left are just jealous of Mel because he is doing something they did not have the brains to do themselves, and he does not bow down (yet) to their "gods" of anti-americanism. He is kind of like Arnold- making an honest buck.

Moving from actor to producer only amplifies my point and proves my point perfectly, as I tried to show in my first comment!

Pain is his niche in acting > Pain is his niche in producing. His movies expose the truth!

Nobody said anything about pain/violence being wrong when used in context. Thats got nothing to do with anything I wrote. I am just pointing out who he is and what he is doing, and your getting all bent out of shape over some simple truth.

And why am I not going to see his pain/violent work?
I saw 'The Passion of the Crucifixion' He did it perfectly, but I can see him as I have seen other directors. Your heart is very dull and callused, for their work is of a very dark persuasion, and you are just not seeing it.
These works are not some fun, good, spontaneous, American pie in the sky, entertaining movie being produced, but they are a focused and calculated darkness to corrupt your heart; to lead a multitude of hearts like a heard of cattle. That "is" reality, and that "is" what I am walking away from.

I did not get to see 'One Night with the King' yet, but there is a whole different direction there with a whole different spirit.

Mel knew absolutely, positively, unequivically that the passion of the crucifixion would be mega mega. You have got to be missing something if you think Mel did not know. And to add to that, I was not writing comments on all the greatest moments of M.G., just what I understand in the present (the past few years). That is simple reality.

As I said at the start, Mel does not need forgiveness for what he did. It was all a show. Unless maybe he needs it for puting on a show.