Could It Happen?

with all of the acrimony between the Libs and everyone else, I don't expect more than 50%-55%turnout. ACORN is safe to do the voodoo they do so well.

My one hope is that in some very small voting district they make a slight miscalculation and over register like mad.

I doubt it will happen in any of the larger districts, but maybe in a district small enough they might make a tactical error.

Great post, Andrews! Have a feeling that the election, like this life-long campaign, will not be decided until December or January. Would love to see ACORN cracked and ground up! Don`t know how far the $800,000 contribution they received, so generously endowed by That One, will go to garner any attention, but here`s hoping! The worst possible scenario is Madame Speaker as President Protemps in this neverending ordeal and I pray it comes to naught.

I have to agree with Boaz that ACORN may not get caught, but they have become very careless.

What amazes me is that ACORN can get caught at this again and again, yet the group just blame sit on volunteers and continues to get funds and get work managing public voter registration drives. Worse still, they maintain their tax exempt status.

It is like finding out the mafia gets tax exempt status and government funds.

a very salient point, I failed to consider the issue of the smaller districts and that would be a very real possibility.

It is still a long shot, I'll grant you, but ACORN has been so incredibly careless this election cycle that I wouldn't put it past an overzealous member in some smaller urban precinct to exceed the number of residents.

Even if that doesn't happen, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the same name pop up a dozen or more times in the rolls with all the same information, address, DOB etc. That should be enough to require a look at the voter rolls and a bit of investigation.

After all, it did get absurd enough that the courts finally ordered Ohio to allow some degree of local oversight of the arbitrary decrees from on high. And courts are traditionally very reluctant to get involved in such things.

I recall in Baltimore when Sauerbrey lost to Glendenning and the court found fraud, but "not enough fraud" to require any action. Dead people, imaginary people, doesn't matter... The Democrat won, just as G-d willed it. At least that was my impression of the ruling.

So, to get a court involve din this sort of dispute things have to be pretty far gone.

The county registrar for Jackson County, Missouri, stated yesterday that she has received enough registration cards from Acorn to put the total percentage of registered voters at approx. 92%. Of the several thousand cards turned in by Acorn, approx. 55% have no driver's license number which is required, around 40% are duplicates, another 20% are from the same cities with several different and invalid zip codes. She has set all Acorn's submittals aside and contacted the FBI who, she said, will be in Missouri Monday to begin an investigation into the matter.

A total of 14 states have made claims of rampant registration abuses this year. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that number grows considerably. I am beginning to think that Acorn has adopted a tactic of flooding registrar's offices with the hope that enough will be missed to produce an effect. Kind of like DNS attacks on computer networks.

I hope their strategy blows up in their face.

Glenn

I wasn't aware of that when I wrote this, but it appears they almost reached the point I suggested in this post. If the real voters turned out in anything approaching normal numbers they would have had over 100% turnout.

Yeah, you have an uncanny knack for being able to determine the most likely effect for a given cause. Must be all fresh air you get at the beach. Hehehe....

The Jackson Cty. registrar said that in the decade she has worked in the registrar's office, first as a volunteer, they have become familiar with the normal quantity of cards received and the bins necessary to hold them. The first sign of abnormality was that the bins they had set out filled quickly and more had to used. Then more, and more, and even more bins were necessary. That is when she halted the sorting process and started checking the districts that had the excessive amounts. She quickly realized that an overwhelming amount of cards coming in were from Acorn and she stopped processing all of their submissions.

She said that had they continued to include Acorn's cards it might have taken days to extract them back out again, and their entry into the database and subsequent need to remove them would have been a major undertaking.

God love the grandmothers of the world who attain positions of trust and authority. You can almost always trust grandma.

Glenn

I may be belaboring the obvious, but since everyone else seems dead set on ignoring the obvious, someone has to point out what should be obvious, but apparently isn't.

http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/10/voting-early-often-i ndianapolis-bloated.html

I am a resident of Ohio, myself, and I am not going to vote early, because I can see all the early votes being tossed out due to the incompetent handling of this election by SoS Brunner.

Welcome to the blog, and thanks for the comment and the link.

I have to ask, is this why NC and VA are suddenly "in play"? Maybe it isn't a shift in voter preference, but a really aggressive ACORN-backed "get out the (fraudulent) vote" drive.

http://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2008/10/11/appe als_court_sides_with_ohio_secretary_of_state

This is even better: It involves SoS Brunner arguing that the "two or three days" it would take to make a computer program to help verify all the registrations would be an insurmountable burden three WEEKS before the election.

Please amend my previous characterization of Brunner from "incompetent" to "corrupt."

That is simply absurd. That is almost a Ninth Circuit quality ruling. Yes, three days is an insurmountable obstacle two weeks before, because... um... three days is more than two weeks, right?

I don't get it. Hopefully, the Supreme Court will agree to hear this. Or at least send it back with some instructions.

Then again, I wonder if the Sixth Circuit will pull a Florida Supreme Court and refuse to accept instructions.

If this blows up into a bigger issue and the whole ACORN fraud becomes an issue, I wonder if the left will start claiming 2008 is a "stolen" election like 2000? Will we never hear the end of the left whining about stolen elections (while trying to steal them themselves)?

Off topic, did anyone else find it hilarious the Democrats sent a Daley to Florida in 2000 as their expert on election fraud? Really? A Daley who is an expert in election fraud? Imagine that!

Good post, ACORN has protection from every liberal judge, Senator, and Congressman. They are untouchable we have seen our last legitimate election. But we should feel good, we all paid for ACORN. HAHA

Welcome tot he blog.

I agree, it would be hard to get very far against ACORN, but there is a point where you can do so much, so openly, that even the protection of the entire court system can't save you. And ACORN seems to be getting close this election.

Well, they would were the media covering it.

The shame is that that the media is so enamored of Obama that they are burying what could be the biggest story in years, the corruption of the electoral system thanks to motor voter, early voting and absentee ballots. Instead, they are sitting back with tingly thighs feeling good that they get to come within 100 yards of the Divine Obama.

I am shocked that not one intrepid reporter will break with orthodoxy to get a career making story.

I was on absentee ballot for a few years. Then this year during the primary, even though CA had an open primary, the absentee ballots were your party.

Being lazy, even though I had not voted for a Democrat in years, I was still registered so I changed parties. My dad is an independent and he had no clue who his people were for many of the local openings.

As for Indianapolis, a 105% voter registration. Wow, what an accomplishment to them. I know in CA we have a lot of problems here with fraud. We have a lot of undocumented people that vote.

Also with Obama and his younger vote, I doubt the majority of them will turn out. When I was in college almost every person that I knew did not vote. I was one of the few. So, we shall see what happens this year.

I doubt there will be much turnout either. What worries me more are absentee and early votes bought and paid for by ACORN and similar groups. Election day will be a minor issue, pre-election will be when ACORN will try to steal the election.

As I said in a comment earlier, Maryland had a court determine that there was fraud, yet it didn't matter. In a close election. To decide the governor of the state. No, not like it was important or anything...

We aren't exactly Chicago. We had enough registered Democrats for a long time that they didn't need to cheat. But once Republicans started picking up votes,t hey turned back to old-fashioned corruption.

Union goons disrupting rallies. Public works workers collecting "illegal" signs from one party but not the other. Dead people voting. All the usual things a one party state can do to keep control.

Yet we still got a Republican governor for one term, before legislature obstruction and a "deregulation" scandal created by Democrats but blamed on Republicans convinced the dim witted to run back to the Democrats... sometimes I don't like my states much.

Yes, that is a concern. I always felt that when I was doing absentee that they either threw it away or never counted it.

Here is a good one for you. I took my name off the abseentee list and I got a ballot in the mail. So, I called the voter office. The woman told me to discard the ballot that I got in the mail. I asked her how would she know if I really discarded and voted twice? She had no comment. So, I did send an email to the Attorney General. It won't do anything, but just to let them know.

As for my state, I am embarrassed to live here. I remember when I was in 8th grade, my dad got offered a very good job in Michigan. My parents decided against it. Growing up my mom always had hopes of moving back to Jersey, but my dad said no way! I always thought I would never leave CA.

Since my mom has been sick and I have been working at home, depending on what happens with the economy. I think after the first of the year I would like to look for a job outside of CA. I never thought I would want to move from here, but I am tired of this state for many reasons.

Voter fraud, no big deal here. How ridiculous is that?

Isn't it amazing how much President Bush is blamed for and also the Republican party.

Funny, I knew a Susan here in Maryland, whose father was always talking about moving back to the Bay area, kind of the opposite of your story.

I am always amazed at how many things Republicans get blamed for that are either the fault of the Democrats or simply no one's fault. It seems the Democrats just have to make a claim, and suddenly the press treats it as gospel.

Amazing.

a few years back, when I was in the Navy. It seemed like every street corner you came to had someone trying to register voters. They got paid per voter registered for the party they were working for. I asked them how they knew the people weren't already registered, and they said the Board of Elections would make sure. True? I don't know, but looking back, I wonder how many people actually WERE voting multiple times, in different locations.

I recall back in 95 and 96 when motor voter was passed, there was a lot of talk about how it would ease voter fraud, and the Democrats at the time were dismissive of those fear, just as they are now.

I was working in social services at the time, and we had to pretty much do everything but hold their hand and fill out the form for them.

I had people who heard voices, who couldn't speak English, who were on psych meds because they couldn't stop molesting their own children, and I had to prove either I registered them to vote or else they had refused to register after multiple offers... These are the people we want selecting our leaders?

That was one of the worst parts of working at DSS, and I have to say there were a lot of troubling aspects of working at DSS.

I registered to vote when a group came to our high school. I can't even remember the group that came.

I have seen a few groups outside of Target to register people to vote. But, not a lot of that going on in this area.

I haven't seen a lot of voter drives here either, but i think the Democrats think we are a safe state, so they may be ignoring us.

Of course, that could come back to hurt them too. Maryland has two big red bands, to the east and west, so if there is enough Hillary voter cross overs, or just poor enough turn out among left-leaning Democrats, they might actually face a challenge in a supposedly safe state.

After all, Maryland did go for Reagan in the past, so it isn't impossible.

I remember when I was in California, there was a law, (though I'm not sure whether it was statewide, or just Los Angeles), that stated that the Board of Elections was to provide a ballot for all eligible voters in the language of their choice. The article was about how many extra millions of dollars it cost L.A. every year, but what I remember thinking was:"If you can't speak the language well enough to read a ballot, how can you possibly be informed enough to vote? I think they could have saved a bundle by printing the ballots in English, then just putting a "D" beside everthing the DemocRats endorsed. That way, the non-English speakers would know exactly who and what they would have voted for anyway, had it been in their language.

Maryland had something similar at one time.

I have always thought that it is simply absurd to do such things. A nation needs a single official language, if for no other reason than to limit costs.

Of course,t here are other reasons. First of all, translation is never exact. So having a law or ruling in two languages means there are two slightly different, but entirely official positions. With only one language we have only one position.

I don't think the official language should apply to anything but government. However, I do think that the government should conduct all business in the official language, if you have a problem with it, then you are obligated to pay for translation.

By the way, want to talk about costs? When I worked in social services, we paid for translation for anyone who applied. Whether they qualified or not. At one time I thought our official Spanish translator was actually bringing in unqualified people just to collect her fee, she brought in so many bad applications one week...

But that is a bit off topic. My point being, the state should have one and only one language for all state business, and it is your obligation to either learn that language or pay to make yourself understood. it should not be the job of the state.

I suppose that position makes me "heartless" and "unfeeling".

Well, why not. I mean the driving test to get a license is up to about 8 languages now. It may have even gone higher. Ridiculous.

I am sure it cost bucks. Funny how cities and states that are in the hole always find money to waste on frivalous things. I am still waiting for an electronic voting machine. We either boxes in or punch out the holes. Oh my gosh, the hanging chad is still alive and well. We used to have the little ink blot thing years ago.

I think we are pretty low in the voter registration because they pretty much have given Obama CA. I know Hillary beat him by a couple hundred thousand votes in the primary. I am sure we will continue blue, but it would be nice to go red and surprised people! Hee! Hee!

I have noticed by my parents house, they are upper middle class and beyond, these people have put McCain/Palin signs up every place. A lot of these people have ranches and this one guy has McCain/Palin signs all over the railing. Looks pretty cool. Hey, I wonder if the horses are Republicans.

I think the media may be surprised by one or more "solidly blue" states. ACORN has been ignoring a lot of these, so there are a lot fewer fake ballots. On top of that crossovers, union voters, maybe Hispanics, and Hillary partisans may cause the state to go the other way.

It sounds far fetched, but even in solidly blue central Maryland I am seeing a LOT of McCain signs and very few Obama, and most of those are on those 8 year old Volvos the middle class ex-hippies drive. if that is the whole of Obama's base, then he may find himself surprised come November in Maryland.

Have to wait and see.