Dear Leader, Obama

Hitler Youth, Putin Youth, Obama Youth... shudder

Hitler Youth, Putin Youth, Obama Youth... shudder

That's truly what YOU are! Have you seen the vid of the 5th grader suspended from school for wearing a t-shirt that said, "Obama is a terrorist"? Well guess who put him up to it? His father! Hmmm, that is certainly saying something about indoctrination.

I really find it ironic that you are frightened by these things (children singing) and are "warning" us when McCain supporters do the EXACT same thing...

Another thing that really bothers me is the use of the word "fascism". Do you know what it really means or did you just hear it from your political nudnik buddies who also misused the term?

Truth Squads = Hitler's Brown Shirts??? Are you insane or just that ignorant? I'm guessing you also believe that a woman doesn't have a right to her own body, gays are evil, and that the earth was created in 6 days...

Go back to sleep.

Chad, the biggest users of hyperbole have been the left. Calling Bush Hitler and making movies about his assassination is the modus operandi of the left. Obama 'truth squads' in Missouri are the real thing. I did write to Jennifer Joyce, the attorney general in Missouri to ask her what business it is of a state prosecutor to regulate speech and she answered and said she just wants to make sure that the "truth" gets out. If you don't find this frightening than i don't know what would do it. I'm not ignorant. You are. A STATE prosecutor who uses her official position to make sure that people know that Obama is a christian....is called fascism. You say McCain supporters do the same thing? Where have you seen a government official threaten anyone who "lies" about McCain?

Under the law there are many instances where women do not have a right to their own body. She does not have the right to be a prostitute in most states. A baby is not a part of her body. It is a baby. Gays are not evil. But they do not have the right to teach my children their agenda in public schools. Our churches and religious charities have a right to hire who they choose and to believe what they choose. God willing, here in California proposition 8 will pass and the will of the people will finally mean something.

Speaking of 'indoctrination' lets talk about the agenda of Bill Ayers. Read his speech in tribute to Hugo Chavez two years ago. He teaches small children to embrace anti-Americanism. He teaches revolution. Two years ago Obama endorsed Ayers book on indoctrination. You are the one who is blind. You are the one who should learn what the right believes. You don't know. Instead you read hateful leftist blogs which is why you can be so disrespectful of someone you've never met.

You guys are good at that. I like that you use the word hyperbole so much... But if Palin saying that Obama "pals around with terrorist" isnt blatant hyperbole, then I dont know what is, and Id say you dont either.

As far as the truth squads are concerned, you should be more enraged at the prosecutors for being out there in the first place. Being in a public office and relaying your political views isnt the keenest thing to do, but you seriously cant compare a group like that to the Hitler Youth... That's an extremist POV that is just silly and most likely republican propaganda to continue to scare folks like you.

"A STATE prosecutor who uses her official position to make sure that people know that Obama is a christian....is called fascism"

No, actually it's not. Look it up first. The key words here youre using is "make sure" implying that she is forcing people to believe Barack is a christian, which she isnt. I call that being a supporter.

Now more spin, I never said that people were threatened if they lied about McCain. I made a point that you were frightened by Obama's children singing when in fact children sing for McCain too. You're not hearing dems run around and say "McCain Youth, McCain Youth!"

Women's rights... they belong to the woman, period. Of course prostitution isnt legal, but comparing that to abortion? Now I realize youre a mother and you have been raised in a certain way that makes you believe what you do, and I respect that, despite what you may think and how disrespectful you may think I am, HOWEVER, if you are going to blog about these subjects publicly and put such an emphasis on them, then you need to be able to at least discuss them and occasionally take some flak or criticism when things get heated.

I would say that a baby is still part of the mother AND the father... that is how it works. It takes a mom and dad to make the baby in the first place and if there is a reason that the pregnancy should be terminated, then it should ultimately be HER right. I dont agree that abortion should be 100% legal. I certainly dont like the idea of women just going and doing it b/c they can. But when you look at rape, incest and life-threatening situations then you have to see that there are some situation where its necessary.

Im concerned that you think gays are trying to change people or teach them their "agenda". What that means, im not completely sure, but I do know it sounds pretty close-minded and pointlessly ignorant.

Prop 8... is there a reason it bothers you? I get that you dont believe in it, thats okay... but how does it really effect you? Im curious to know. In the overall scope, does it impact YOUR life in ANY way?

As far as Ayers, I believe Barack addressed that last night... Ayers isn't running the country, so I would wonder what point youre trying to make... well I know which point youre trying to make, but thats been debunked fairly well.

I think I do know what the right believes. I dont read leftist blogs, I dont read hate blogs, I read YOUR blogs. I read right wing blogs, I read townhall blogs... I see what you say and I tell you how you have been mislead into thinking things that are not true.

Obama is more than just pro-abortion. He voted against the infant born-alive act. No amount of his spin will erase his record. He is lying when he says there was already a bill to protect those infants. He voted against giving tiny babies any medical care who were born alive after a botched abortion. Heinous.

Voting in favor of marriage between a man and woman may sound pretty "closed-minded" to you but if that law passes it most certainly will impact everyone. It is the gay agenda to mainstream homosexuality everywhere in our society which means that Christian businesses and schools can be sued if you try to adhere to their religious beliefs. Not out of hatred. Out of RELIGIOUS BELIEF. Text books will be re-written to be gender neutral (they are already trying in California). This law affects everyone! They want to force me to accept a lifestyle, by teaching it to my children, by forcing me to negate my religious views. That is not tolerant. I want to be tolerant and allow them to live as they choose. They are not happy with that. They want to shove it in the faces of millions of people who think differently. That is NOT EXACTLY A LIVE AND LET LIVE ATTITUDE!

Obama is being disingenious when Ayers was mentioned in the debate. It is relevant today because just two years ago Bill Ayers went to Venezuela to pay tribute to Hugo Chavez and his education 'reform'. Read his speech here: http://billayers.wordpress.com/2006/11/

Obama praised Ayers' book in the New York Times. This should frighten every American. Bill Ayers teaches kids to be anti-American. He teaches that America is a racist, evil, imperialist power. Is that what Obama thinks? He funded Ayers.

"He voted against the infant born-alive act. No amount of his spin will erase his record." -Okay... This is misleading. As a medical professional, you are bound by the Hippocratic Oath to take care of an protect your patients. A living, aborted, baby falls under the same rules. If a baby was aborted and still alive, it is the physicians duty to care for and treat them. A bill is pointless at that junction.

Gay marriage: No, a man and woman getting married doesnt sound closed minded too me... READ my comments first and dont pick pieces like you have been in order to retort. Your views on same sex marriage is the closed-minded idea I was speaking about.

No one is forcing you to teach your children homosexuality! No one is forcing you to abandon your religious beliefs! You can't honestly believe that they are!!!

You speak volumes when you talk about protecting the "Christian Businesses and schools". First of all, I havent been to one job interview where the paperwork didnt say that an employer could fire me for just about anything... However, not hiring someone based on their gender, race or religious background is discrimination. It works the same way with homosexuality... and if these businesses are so Christian, where is that love thy neighbor attitude at? Sure gays are all up in arms about this stuff... look at the way you write about them! You think that they want to change you and your family, you portray them like a disease or plague... they just want to be safe and happy with their OWN family and live in peace like you. Where is the problem? The problem is with who ever told you that the gay agenda was to make you teach your kids about homosexuality and bring it into your home!

Once agin, Ayers is irrelevant. He is not running, nor has Obama had any contact with him recently to make ANYONE think so. The book in question, "A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court" ... Obama reviewed it as, “A searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair.”
...doesnt sound like a plot to overtake america or anything more than giving a damn about children in the court system...

Gay marriage: No, a man and woman getting married doesnt sound closed minded too me... READ my comments first and dont pick pieces like you have been in order to retort. Your views on same sex marriage is the closed-minded idea I was speaking about.

No one is forcing you to teach your children homosexuality! No one is forcing you to abandon your religious beliefs! You can't honestly believe that they are!!!

You speak volumes when you talk about protecting the "Christian Businesses and schools". First of all, I havent been to one job interview where the paperwork didnt say that an employer could fire me for just about anything... However, not hiring someone based on their gender, race or religious background is discrimination. It works the same way with homosexuality... and if these businesses are so Christian, where is that love thy neighbor attitude at? Sure gays are all up in arms about this stuff... look at the way you write about them! You think that they want to change you and your family, you portray them like a disease or plague... they just want to be safe and happy with their OWN family and live in peace like you. Where is the problem? The problem is with who ever told you that the gay agenda was to make you teach your kids about homosexuality and bring it into your home!

Once agin, Ayers is irrelevant. He is not running, nor has Obama had any contact with him recently to make ANYONE think so. The book in question, "A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court" ... Obama reviewed it as, “A searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair.”
...doesnt sound like a plot to overtake america or anything more than giving a rip about children in the court system...

Chad, we're quibbling over the same thing. It is not "close-minded" to be against gay marriage or for marriage only between a man and a woman. It is a RELIGIOUS BELIEF. It is not from hatred, but because it is a RELIGIOUS BELIEF. I would argue that it's close-minded of the left to not accept my religious belief. And yes, it will affect me if prop. 8 does not pass. In Massachusetts public schools are teaching kids about gay marriage since their law went into affect. We both know that the marriage issue is only the tip of the iceberg. The Gay-Lesbian agenda is to mainstream homosexuality. In text books (it's already been tried-the Gov. vetoed it), suing Christian businesses, etc.

And when i said Christian businesses i didn't mean a business owned by a Christian. I meant a business like a Christian book store where hiring a homosexual would go against their faith and not be a very good witness to people coming in to buy Christian books. Or a Christian charity that hires workers, etc. By the way, our business is a print shop and our only employee is a lesbian. She's been with us for 10 years.

And Ayers is very relevant. Ayers' agenda of teaching kids to be American-hating radicals is relevant if Obama believes the same thing and there is evidence that he does. Do we want a president with that agenda in charge of "hiring an army of teachers" as Obama has said he would do?

Heres the bottom line of this whole argument: I am a conservative. I am pro-life, pro-family, pro-faith, pro-business. Obama is not. To argue differently is a waste of time. Obama has a record in the senate and, from my point of view, it is HORRIBLE.

I will retort in short form, since no real explanation is needed...

Religion has NO PLACE in government.

Not hiring someone based on their religious beliefs or yours is not only unconstitutional but discriminatory.

You have no problems with your employee, right? Then what is the problem? You're proving my point for me.

Ayers is still not relevant. Show me one gang of kids who has adopted his teachings and are bombing to protest the war... The youth doesnt even know who he is, your point is moot. Obama's relationship with him is also moot since it doesn't exist.

Obama needs to hire an army of teachers! We need more educated people in this country to make it great again. I don't see your problem with this either.

problem with your claim about religion: We are a nation founded on Judaeo-Christian beliefs.

Chad, you've made my point beautifully. It's very distasteful to you isn't it? You are intolerant of faith and if you had your way then churches will have to go against their religious beliefs or go to jail. That is intolerance. People of faith do not take it off like a sweater to serve their country. They want to live and let live. But faith belongs in the public arena. That is how our founding fathers wrote such a wonderful Constitution. First they prayed (horrors!), all of them, for three days, then they wrote it. They spoke faith, acted on their faith, wrote laws protecting faith ("freedom OF", not freedom FROM) and were very religious men, ALL OF THEM.

We don't run a "religious" print shop. Churches and other religious places, however, have a right to practice their faith and to be true to their faith.

I think you will find a lot of kids in Chicago that have gone through his programs (I'll bet a lot of them work for ACORN!). He teaches hate for America, the same type we see from liberal types in Berkeley, where they threaten recruiters. Read his material. HE HATES AMERICA. We just don't need more hate in this country. We have plenty to go around! As much as he wants to pretend, Obama HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH AYERS. They are close friends. You arein denial about anything that has to do with OBama's past. AND IT ISN'T, NEVER HAS BEEN, THE PRESIDENT'S JOB TO HIRE TEACHERS. Doesn't that even make you prick your ears up? How can a president hire an army of teachers? Is he going to take over the jobs of local county governments?

@American Sweetheart... We were founded on religious FREEDOM and freedom from persecution due to our beliefs... because we didnt want to be ruled under a belief system we didnt agree with or were told we had to believe. And actually your "problem" isn't a problem b/c it has nothing to do with the argument. Founded on, maybe... founded for, not even close.

The phrase "separation of church and state" is generally traced to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson (one of those great founding fathers, Dittomom) in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state.

As you can see, the intent is clear.

@Dittomom
Im not intolerant at all about faith. I have my faith, you have yours and NOT ONCE have I attacked your faith or given you reason to think otherwise. Your drastic point of view concerning my thinking (beliefs or jail) is witless and laughable.

No one... NOT ONE, has said religion has no place in this country, however, when you base a government on a religion that is called a Theocracy and it's one of the reasons our wonderful founding fathers left England!

It doesn't matter if you run a "religious" print shop or not, that wasn't the point.

OMG, "close friends"... after Nov 4, will you wake up and decide to be a productive citizen like the rest of us, or keep spewing this nonsensical drivel?

based on Christian beliefs?

The Founding Fathers are quoted in explaining that we were against the states being able to claim a "sole religion" under which everyone MUST practice. Meaning that Pennsylvania can't force everyone to be Episcopalian, New York can't force everyone to be Presbyterian, etc. But our basic beliefs and government are based on a Christianity.

Do some research. Pick up a 3rd grade history book. It outlines it there.

"Religion has NO PLACE in government."

This is your quote, Chad.

You are confused, Chad. Your quote above tells me you are. Religious PEOPLE have every reason to be able to speak their faith and to work their faith into laws. If the people disagree then they are voted out. that is why we choose our representatives according to their beliefs, whether political beliefs, religious beliefs, economic beliefs, etc. No question of theocracy. We have no mandated state religion. We have legislators who are accountable to the people making laws based on their, and 90% of the people in this country's, moral understanding.

The intent of the "separation" is not clear to you. Thomas Jefferson was reassuring the Danbury Baptists that government WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEF. That's all. Nowhere did Jefferson say he wanted religion kept out of the public square. Our founders would have vigorously disagreed if he had!

government. it is a secular government. "Religious" print shop IS the point. You are trying to make the case that a Church, not hiring a homosexual, is "discriminatory". Technically, you are right. We have a right, in this country, (unless liberals have their way) to be "discriminatory" as to the people we hire. Every business has qualifications employees must meet. A religious place should have the right to follow their conscience. It's called Religious freedom.

To go back to one of your statements, in Illinois babies were left to die in a closet after they failed to die immediately after an abortion. Doctors were not under obligation to care for these babies. Jill Stanek, the nurse who sat with these babies as they died, will tell you all about it. She testified in Illinois for the Born Alive Act to call attention to these babies. Google her name.

"But our basic beliefs and government are based on a Christianity. Do some research. Pick up a 3rd grade history book. It outlines it there."

Do some research?! Sweetheart, a 3rd grade history book doesn't even scratch the surface of this countries history... its OBVIOUS to me and any other educated person who reads that comment that you're the one with the 3rd grade understanding of government and our history and maybe you should sit down with a big-girl book and do your own research.

it's called sarcasm and taking a jab. put your big boy pants on and take it. I have taken the big girl classes and I have a very broad and good education.

quit taking things completely to a different level.

I'm done arguing with you because I don't have the rest of my life to see where this goes.

which is nowhere

"Religious PEOPLE have every reason to be able to speak their faith and to work their faith into laws."

Probably the most misguided thing Ive read today. Im not as confused as you are and its becoming more and more obvious that Im dealing with a bigot.

I wish you good luck with your business! Thanks for the informative conversation.

The end.

And first of all, let me start off by stating that I don't even believe in God, but I respect religion and people's right to believe it and I respect the beliefs on which this country was founded.

Shocker, agnostic Conservative!

Here is some interesting information for you:

Fisher Ames wrote the First Amendment and later stated that the Bible should be the principal text book in all classrooms.

Governor Morris of PA, whom helped write the Constitution has said that "education should teach the precepts of religion and the duties of man towards God."

John Quincy Adams once said that we are an "independent nation of Christians" of our no longer being colonies after the war.

187 out of the first 200 universities in the US were Christian schools and Harved once required a strong knowledge of the Bible to be admitted.

The first Supreme Court Chief Justice, John Jay explained that our duty as Americans is to help and encourage the virtue of religion, as well as the duty of other free peoples and governments.

Our first President believed that all Americans and potential Americans should learn and practice our customs and culture, but most importantly to put their faith in Jesus and their religion. He said that if people needed guidance in their journey into the faith of Jesus Christ that Congress would help them along the way.

But you don't need to take any of that as proof...you'll have something to say about it, I'm quite certain or call me an uneducated liar.

Thanks, American Sweetheart! Well said!