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Gray Ghost Country
McCain Chooses Sarah Palin as His Vice Presidential Running Mate
119 Comments
Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:10 PM
ShiningCity
writes:
I think you meant...
cried his eyelashes off.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:16 PM
Redhead
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For the McCain's
It's a smart move.
Obama just lost.
Unfortunately, conservatives may have as well.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:21 PM
Goshawk
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Gray Ghost
good article! And as I said over on peppermints blog. The announcement of Palin as VP has already stolen the thunder from the Obama campaign. And the DemoLibs are in a tissy, going bonkers over this! And have already started to smear and bring down this fine woman. All I can say to them is Lots of Luck! They will only make themselves look worse!
Didn't think about that "second term" but your right!
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:37 PM
clyde
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Gray Ghost
While I applaud McCain's choice,it remains to be seen how she reconciles her stands with those of McCain,AND the GOP platform. Brian made a very good point over at his place, IF this ticket loses,which it could, a future bright star for us will have dimmed considerably. She may have put herself between a rock and a hard spot. Would like to be wrong on that.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:37 PM
Gray Ghost
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Shining City
Eyelashes???????
How ever you and I want to say it, Obama has got to be upset.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:39 PM
Gray Ghost
writes:
Redhead
"Unfortunately, conservatives may have as well."
In what case Redhead?
She or Bobby Jindal or Ducan Hunter as VP running mate to McShame is the only possible way I would consider voting for him.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:43 PM
Gray Ghost
writes:
Goshawk
Thanks for stopping by. You are correct, this steals Obama's thunder, big time.
The MSM and the Looney Left would try to tear down any choice, including Jesus. (PS for BrianR: This does not mean I am voting for McCain yet. However, I will consider it more closely now.)
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:48 PM
edmartinonline
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Touche!
Great choice and it sets the stage for the future in many many ways, all positive.
http://www.edmartinonline.com
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:50 PM
Gray Ghost
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clyde
Everything's a gamble. I believe that Palin made the correct choice. I don't believe that her losing this election will necessarily hurt her.
On the differences between McCain and herself, all she has to do is announce that she likes and respects McCain but that she doesn't always agree with him.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:52 PM
libertyworld
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And I'm thrilled about it.
There will be many more Hillary supporters voting for McCain now.
This move surprised most everyone.
I was pretty sure it would be Mitt, actually.
I think this will do real damage to the democrats' image and future.
Just like that, their facade of championing women falls on it's face with a giant, dusty crash.
Then up pops McCain with this VP pick and suddenly there is sunshine back in the lives of millions of women who were so energized about a woman on a ticket.
Between the punk not picking Hillary and McCain picking a spunky, young, attractive maverick in her own right...
The dems must be about ready for the padded rooms.
Gotta love it.
What a fascinating election.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 1:52 PM
BrianR
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Well, again, as I've written
so many times.
The relevance of VP is exactly what?
WHO is going to be sitting in the Oval Office making policy?
Hint: wrinkly old white dude.
This doesn't change one thing as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't magically transform McLiberal into anything he hasn't been for decades: an egomaniacal megalomaniac who revels in sticking his thumb in the eyes of conservatives.
If he wins, Palin will be doing a Cheney: disappearing into nothingness, her whereabouts merely rumored.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:00 PM
Gray Ghost
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BrianR
"If he wins, Palin will be doing a Cheney: disappearing into nothingness, her whereabouts merely rumored."
I think I have to disagree with you there. Nothing is certain in politics, but the first woman VP? Even the MSM will continue to play her up because she is a "woman".
I still am not voting McCain. As I said, this only puts a more favorable "light" on the subject. You and I are still on the same page.
But I also believe this is one h*ll of a surprise to the Obama Camp.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:01 PM
BrianR
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HILLARY supporters????
Well, as I just wrote to Redhead at my place:
Getting Hillary supporters to switch?
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Democrats don't do that. They may biitch and moan, but they DON'T vote for Republicans. That's all out of the same vat of fantasy that considers McJoke's taking California in the realm of possibility.
More importantly, what does that say? That the REPUBLICAN candidate has to count on the votes of POed LIBERALS for any chance of success?
This is the death of the GOP as a separate and distinct party that espouses the values of conservatism, as I wrote at my essay about their rewriting the platform TO ACCOMMODATE AMNESTY JOHN.
They are CLEARLY following the historical trail blazed by the WHIG Party in the 19th Century.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:03 PM
Gray Ghost
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Liberty
"Between the punk not picking Hillary and McCain picking a spunky, young, attractive maverick in her own right...
The dems must be about ready for the padded rooms."
Amen!
I still have MAJOR problems with McCain. But this choice has got to be killing the Dumbocraps.
I have also got to get more popcorn for the next few months' viewing.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:03 PM
BrianR
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Ghost, I hear you
but you misunderestimate the breadth of McCain's megalomania. There's a reason I call him (among other things) Emperor John. The guy really does have a Napoleonic Complex, and he'll consign her to the coal mines somewhere where you'd need an oxygen mask and halogen torch to find her.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:04 PM
Gray Ghost
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Ed
Thanks for stopping by.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:12 PM
KevInFl
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McCain chooses Palin
Hi Gray Ghost. Fantastic post.Right on all points. I am flying high right now after seeing and hearing her. As I wrot earlier this morning in my Blog, THIS IS STUBB+NNING. ALL week I have written Mca needed A WOW. Ge got it. He needed to show HE is agent of change. He just did that. He needed to show at his age he can think out of the boc. He did and needed to deflate the Obama-Biden ticket. He has...PLUS HE has given, you, me, and everyone else here great new material LOLOL
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:12 PM
Gray Ghost
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BrianR
You have some excellent points. I know the McCain family (they are from Carroll County, Mississippi, but I don't know John McCain).
The whole family has a problem with the "Napoleonic Complex".
But it is surprising choice, and has to be a shock to the Democrats.
But BrianR, Governor Palin (as much as I like her) is not Jesus. And Jesus is the only choice for VP that I will positively guarantee will cause me to vote for John McCain.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:14 PM
KevInFl
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Gray Ghost sorry for Typos
Wxcuse the typos I got mild PArkinsons and I keep forgetting to proof b4 I post.
Ole shaky hands LOLOL
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:15 PM
Gray Ghost
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KevInFl
Thanks for stopping by. You are correct, EVERYBODY will be writting about this, both the good and bad.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:18 PM
Jimmy Carter
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That was My initial reaction too:
"What on earth makes You think women hillary lovers will vote for McCain because of Palin? They despise anything Republican."
But then, upon further reflection, I can see them doing so for spite. I mean, We are talking about women.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:18 PM
BrianR
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LOL, Ghost
Yeah, I know, you said that.
I'm not sure even JC's enough for me!
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:21 PM
Redhead
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Wait a minute!
Does she have red hair???
Or are those just highlights?
Can the Crimson Horde endorse the VP without endorsing the P?
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:27 PM
Gray Ghost
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Jimmy Carter
One more post and I have to go to a job site for a while.
I notice you like to live dangerously ("But then, upon further reflection, I can see them doing so for spite. I mean, We are talking about women.").
I can't. My wife shoots better than I do and it is embarrassing to get shot with one of your own guns.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:30 PM
CKHustler
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Gray Ghost
I was thinking more towards 2012 myself. I think this was a good move to get conservatives out to vote for him by giving them hope for the GOP party in 2012. I was hoping Jindal would be the man in 2012 with Palin as VP, but Palin with Jindal as VP would be a good ticket as well.
This will help him all over the conservative base.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:41 PM
-Kilroy
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experience
Prior to the Dems setting the qualifications bar at ground level, I had qualms about Palins relative inexperience. Sure, her conservative creds are great but she's a relative neophyte. By comparison to the rest of the field though, she's got 'em all trumped with both more executive and private sector experience. Go figure. Still, if I vote for McCain, even her perfumed tush won't overpower the need to hold my nose.
Nice to see McCain poke the Dems in the eye for a change.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 2:42 PM
Peppermint2
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Gray Ghost
I am ecstatic over this pick of Sara Palin and I don't think for one moment she is going to be buried somewhere.
She's already quite a force in Alaska where she has dealt blows that I don't think a Repub male governor would have had the balls. She's nobody fool or patsy.
And, I know one liberal woman who will vote for this ticket and that's Geraldine Farraro, who paid a hefty price from the camp of the Messiah over a simple remark she made.
I think this was a brilliant choice for McCain and he knows with his age, he may not even make it through a 4 year term. What would we be left with if that were to happen, a right wing, gun loving, pro choice, woman with fiscal responsibility to boot. Not a bad thought at all.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 3:27 PM
crossbow
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Super!!
shes pro-life,pro-marriage a LIFETIME member in the NRA!!!!!Be afraid Libs, be very afraid!!! outstanding pick by McCain.Great post GG!!!
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 3:35 PM
str8_talk
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My two cents...
Is that this may be the smartest move John Elmer Fudd McCain has made in his entire political career. If he pulls this off, he sets up Palin for a presidential career in the next term. If something happens to him in office, not that I expect or wish it, even on him; Palin becomes President.
So, Palin is in a win-win situation even if she does nothing like Dick Cheney, but I don't believe a woman like Palin, given her history is a 'do nothing' sort of gal!
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 3:46 PM
Peppermint2
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crossbow
I agree with you wholeheartedly, this was a SUPER pick by McCain and a brilliant chess move.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 4:11 PM
The Crawfish
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McLame finally
did something right!
The Obamites immediately attacked her for being from a small town....pissing off small town America.
Chuck The Schmuck Schumer cried that she's inexperienced, disregarding the fact that she's more experienced than O-Zebra.
Foreign relations experience? The Governor of Alaska is constantly dealing with the Soviets regarding fishing rights and such.
Military? She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard and her son deploys to Iraq next month. She has visited Iraq as many times as O-Zebra.
Hubby is a UNION guy!
She's more knowledgable on the energy issue than O-Zebra, Biden, and McLame combined.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 4:40 PM
Nee
writes:
ARgh!!
Already the dems show the lack of tolerance and project the Do as I say, not as I do BS as they slam Palin for her "experience." Oh well. It may attract the women voters and it may not. But, should McCain win, it does at least set up potential for 2012. That is all I can say, except that I do like Palin. Unless Sarge and Craw enter the race in 2012...
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 4:42 PM
emjayne
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GG
I agree with you all that she is an inspired choice.
As a woman I wonder. Her husband has a job in Alaska...she has how many? 4 or 5 kids? one of whom is mongoloid?
So one is going in the service...that still leaves how many at home ...in Alaska?
I am thrilled to hear what she has done in Alaska...I have been seething about the Alaska reps for months, but how does she serve as VP in DC and still be a wife and a mother.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 5:19 PM
Goshawk
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BrianR
You know how I stand on the election. As I told you before I will hold my nose and vote for McCain. I've said before, it's not about the Republican party betraying conservatives anymore. Now that he has made a brillant choice with Palan, it just makes it easer to vote for him. And I don't think this strong woman will allow herself to be shoved into the background.
Even though McCain or his family, may have a "Napoleonic Complex" it pales compared to what Obama and the Liberals will bring with them.
For me, this election is about our country! I'm no more happy with McCain than you. But I would vote for Micky Mouse (a vote against Obama) before I would sit back and watch this Marxist socialist just walk in! Allowing complete takeover by the DemoLibs.
I look at it this way. If your in a fortress with "Barbarians at the gate" and your unhappy with your leaders. Why in the world would anyone swing open the gates to let the Barbarians in!?
This is about us and our country! Not about the Republican party!
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 6:18 PM
BrianR
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Goshawk, you make my point for me
You were going to vote for him anyway, so Palin doesn't affect your decision.
I wouldn't vote for him no matter what, so she doesn't affect MY vote, either.
Which has always been my point. VP is meaningless.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 6:20 PM
BrianR
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PS, Goshawk
I consider McCain one of those "barbarians at the gate".
He's done more to destroy the GOP and conservatism than Obama ever could.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 7:15 PM
Sgt Relic
writes:
Ghost
Sorry to be late to the party. TH's comment server kept kicking me off a little while ago.
A good choice by McAmnesty. I wonder who talked him into it?
This doesn't have me rushing to get my WOWD/Palin yard sign up.
On the plus side. I ask you, what is not to like about a woman who shoots her own game and eats moose burgers.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 7:48 PM
emjayne
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Sgt
LOL I thought those pics of her with a gun would bring some reactions. I am not sure they will turn everyone on.
She sure sounds strong and what she has accomplished shows she is. It gets interesting!!
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 9:01 PM
Darvin Dowdy
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Not to mention...
...that she's darned cute, GG. I may not have to hold my nose and get drunk when I go pull the lever for McCain as I had intended. It might be easier than I thought.
GG, do you think she'll pull McCain from the center more right? She's got the charm to do it but will it happen? Whats your take? DD
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 9:12 PM
Jimmy Carter
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Not to mention...
...how much fun We can have with:
"....she has dealt 'blows' that I don't think a Repub male governor would have had the balls"
....because she is a woman.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 9:47 PM
Chad
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Great Post!
Palin is a breath of fresh air for the Republicrat Party - a maveick in her own right who won't town the party line just because she's told to. We need to see a lot of her to keep conservatives reassured. When I heard her speak today I couldn't believe it. Then I thought about Hillary listening to this speech. Then I burst out laughing...
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 10:18 PM
MusicMan
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Sarah Palin Is America's New Wonder woman
August 29, 2008
I have to tell every woman in America that this is the first day of the rest of your life. I firmly believe that eventually Sarah Palin will be the first woman to achieve the Presidency. By then she will have put a stop to the vulgar and demeaning comments, the failure to be elevated in your company, the outrageous portrayal of woman in the print media, movies and television as playmates. For woman who have kids that are young and female, they will look forward to professional careers instead of listening to put downs in an office all day. If the McCain ticket wins, all woman black and white succeed. Who cares if this decision was reactive?
The point is on the merits, Ms. Kalin is far more experienced than Barack Obama and he wants to be President. I won't give you the exact quote about uniting, but you will lose your chains if Sarah Kalin helps to bring in McCain.
commonsenseunlimited
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 10:27 PM
Goshawk
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BrianR
I probably do "make your point" for you. But sorry Bro, this is one thing we disagree on. I guess you didn't understand the Point I was making. That is, that yours, and others, personal grudge against McCain because he seems to have betrayed Conservative principles is understandable.
But as I said, the attention to this election should be about what's good for this country NOT about the Republican party.
If you hate McCain so bad, that you think letting him in is worse than letting Obama and his socialist communist agenda take over, I think you are completely wrong.
The condition of the GOP does not matter at this point. It is not about the GOP, but about what is best for our country. We have a chance at defeating this socialist take-over!
If you think that McCain is one of those "barbarians' and is worse than the phony Marxist Obama, well then I guess you'll stand on your "principles" and not fight against a Demorat take-over.
Instead of holding a bitter grudge against McCain as any of us could easily do, I have chosen to put my country first!
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 10:30 PM
Neotrotsky
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I think it is Great
It steals their thunder and you know it just makes the liberals all mad. When they get upset they are at their funniest
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 11:03 PM
Mrs. Paddy
writes:
Hooray!
This is the first thing that McCain has done that I totally agree with!!!! Whooo HOOOO!!!
I am so excited to see a woman, a great and conservative woman, as his running mate.
Check and Mate!!!
He already got my vote with his stance on the Georgia attack by Putin. This seals the deal for me. I may disagree with a lot about McCain, but I have no doubt he loves his country.
I'm not sure our nation will be able to right itself from an Obama Nation.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 11:15 PM
bob's my uncle
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Goshawk, Brian R
Goshawk, you make a lot of sense. While I agree with BrianR that McCain has done much to destroy conservatism in the R Party,(so has George Bush, and maybe more), but right now we face an election that could plunge us down the socialist rathole for what could be a long time, or forever if Obama is elected. Saddleback and Sarah Palin has convinced me that maybe McCain has SOME sense in his head. The only thing that scares me is the thought of him reaching across the aisle or even camping over there on the Dems terms for some knothead reason.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 11:42 PM
wil
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While this pick won't change
die hard people, there are some who will change...enough to matter? There are 11 states we are told are up for grabs, just a shift of a few thousand in afew of these will change the election one way or another. As for the future of the Republican party...we'll watch this election play out and go from there.
By the way GG, I am a Mississippi State student this fall....I am taking classes online from MSU to get my Masters degree in Biology. Probably should get back to studying genetics rather than goofing off on the blogs.
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Friday, August, 29, 2008 11:47 PM
Darvin Dowdy
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The damage that Obama...
...and crew would do to our nation! The thought of it gives me an anxiety attack. Which is why I'll vote McCain.
I believe a new political party will form up. Kinda' like the Crawfish Party. It will be Nation Centric.
People think I'm crazy when I tell them the democrat party is terminal. They've moved to far left. Past the point of no-return. I give them 10 years. Therefore, a new 2nd party will be needed to fill the void in representation.
Until then, I have to vote for the most conservative. That'll be McCain/Palin. DD
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 12:05 AM
Peppermint2
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DD
I'm with you all the way.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 1:22 AM
BrianR
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Sorry, Goshawk
You evidently don't see that the destruction of conservatism IS the destruction of this country. You're too busy being engaged in hysteria and panic.
I really have to laugh, not at you personally, but at the vulnerability to Chicken Littling that has gripped so many otherwise rational people on the Right.
There was a time when the Right didn't function out of blind emotion, and apparently that time has passed.
I heard all this same hysteria in 2006, and guess what. The Universe didn't end.
Unfortunately, what DID happen was the GOP in its perpetual stupidity took the wrong message from that election, and backed people even WORSE, like McCain and Giuliani. And as I continue to write, they'll keep on doing that until they're punished. Just like a misbehaving bratty child.
You think that somehow magically in the next non-McCain election -- in 8 years if he wins -- the GOP is suddenly going to retransform BACK into a party that espouses conservatism? Don't be a fool.
Why do you think they use this emotionalism as a tactic? Because they know it's the only way to get your support.
Abandoning conservatism IS the doom of this country.
As I said, historically we've been down this road before. The WHIGs gave way to the original GOP. Looks like it may well be time again.
BTW, Barr's support is up to 8% and still climbing. Not good for your guy.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 10:27 AM
Goshawk
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BrianR
No Brian, I'm not one that gets caught up in hysteria nor do I ever "panic" about anything. Nor do I function out of blind emotion. Because I disagree with your approach to the conservative problem does not mean I'm making irrational, emotional decisions.
In fact Brian, the "hysteria" about McCain seems to be coming from your end.
You're right about the events of 2006 and the Republicans were wrong in their, as you say, perpetual stupidity. But in my opinion, now is not the time to try and "teach the Republicans a lesson."
We have an invading army at our shores! That army is the Liberals disguised as Democrats with full intention of destroying conservatism and all it stands for. Taking over the White House and congress they will be in full control as they install their Socialist/Communist policies. Being a Conservative won't mean crap if that happens.
You probably think, like it used to be in the past, that after 4 years the people will learn a lesson, wise up and vote them out. Well, times have changed. It seems about half of our dumbed down citizens want Socialism. Once fully entrenched it won't be easy getting them out. Perhaps it will take a revolution to do so.
So using common sense, why let them take control in the first place? That makes no sense at all.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 10:43 AM
MJSJR
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Gray Ghost
I'm loving this moment. McCain kept the momentum going. Stop by my blog to hear about something I never thought would happen.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 10:56 AM
Goshawk
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bob's my uncle
While I agree with Brian about McCain and the condition of the Republican party in general. Your right, in my opinion. We are already suffering from socialist policies installed 40 years ago that have not and will not go away. Just think what will happen if the DmeoLibs take full control.
What gets me, is that the Obaminable man and his socialist backing, state openly what they intend to do. Even to creating a National Police Force (they call it a security force) STRONGER than our military! What does that tell you? Obama's private SS!
Yet there are those that will sit back, not vote for whatever reason and let this happen. You might as well let Russia just walk in and take over without a fight.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 10:59 AM
BrianR
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Oh, please, Goshawk!
Here are a couple of quotes from your last post:
"No Brian, I'm not one that gets caught up in hysteria nor do I ever 'panic' about anything."
Followed shortly by:
"We have an invading army at our shores! That army is the Liberals disguised as Democrats with full intention of destroying conservatism and all it stands for. Taking over the White House and congress they will be in full control as they install their Socialist/Communist policies. Being a Conservative won't mean crap if that happens."
Yeah.... I'm sure that's not hysterical.
Res ipsa loquitur
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 11:41 AM
Goshawk
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BianR
No, that is not being hysterical. It is a fact! You just seem to think that the Liberals in full control is no big thing. Sorry Bro, I do. And will do my part to keep it from happening.
I'm sure you will be a 'die-hard stick to your personal vindication' on McCain and the Republican party. While it may make you "feel" good and it appeals to your emotionalism, it does nothing to help our country with it's immediate problem.
Don't you see or understand what is going on around you? The dems with obama tell you outright what they plan to do to this country. Already, before Obama has even been elected these thugs are shutting down free speech. Do you think it will get better after he is elected?
Especially after he installs his "National Police Force" that he wants stronger than our military. (read SS).
The only hysteria I see is within you who seems to have gotten personally involved in bitterness and revenge for McCain so much that you no longer can see the bigger picture. It would almost seem as though you have become so obsessed over the mistakes of this one man you don't see what is going down.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 11:55 AM
BrianR
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Hahahaha, Goshawk
You are a RIOT, man!
You deny your own hyperbole, yet somehow what I'VE written is "emotionalism"!
Wow! How's that view from down under the sand?
And you keep talking about "the liberals".
McCain IS one! Which is, of course, my entire point, and always has been.
I have no "bitterness" nor anything else for McCain. I don't even know the guy. But pal, my bottom line is this:
I don't vote for liberals...EVER. I don't care what letter they stick behind their names.
He and Obama are BOTH intent on driving the car of this country through the guardrail and over the cliff. The only thing they disagree on is how fast to do it.
Barr 2008
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 1:29 PM
Darvin Dowdy
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There is nothing wrong with...
...viewing the democrats as "the enemy". They want to transform our nation into some sub-3rd world barrio of a nation where the Constitution becomes a "Living Document" that can mean anything that a politician in power wants it to mean. And if they get power they'll never let go again.
I wrote this little essay back April 07 of what to expect if the dem's take power again:
http://streetlevel.blogtownhall.com/2007/04/12/if_the_democ rats_win_in_08__.thtml
We cannot allow these monsters to take control of the Presidency and both houses of congress. McCain is not the ideal candidate but he hasn't even come close to total hate for the Constitution as the dem's have.
What we're doing by putting McCain is is shoring up the levee until we can build the new Super Levee. That being a new nation-centric political party to replace the dem's. McCain will buy us time. DD
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 1:32 PM
wil
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The differences between Obama and McCain
are in 2 areas....
1) World view.....based on reactions to Iraq, Iran, Russia and other issues, I would much rather see McCain in office than Obama
and now
2) This isn't Schwartzenegger redux IF Palin does a good job on this campaign and then has an active and visible role as VP in a McCain presidency. She is conservative, and if she emerges as a GOP frontrunner in 2012 or 2016, the party can begin to swing back. At the state and local level there are a lot people like Palin and Jindal who have not been blinded by long years in DC and still believe in the conservatism we all espouse despite our differences. IF she performs well as a VP and becomes a party leader in the next decade, and one by one we elect people like McClintock and Duncan Hunters son to the House and the Senate, we can still ignite a conservative movement....Goshawk is right that it is far harder to remove entrenched politicians than to keep them out to begin with.....From what I have seen, Palin will not be a silent in the background VP like Quayle was when Bush I raised taxes. She strikes me as too much of a maverick to let her "maverick" partner surrender. like Schwartzenegger has done here.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 1:35 PM
str8_talk
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The Spoiler
in this election could be Barr like Ross Perot was against Dole. Clinton only had 49.2% to Dole's 40.7% and Perot's 8.4%. If Perot's share had all gone to Dole, which might or might not have happened had he stayed OUT, Dole would have had 49.1%. Then the race would have been too close to hand to Clinton.
Barr comes in as a spoiler, I don't care for McCain but Obama scares me MORE! This is one point I vehemently must disagree with you on Brian. I am going to vote FOR someone who can have a chance to keep Obama OUT of office and that is NOT Barr! Barr should just stay out of it as far as I'm concerned. I've RARELY, if ever disagreed with you on something but to give Obama a chance to get in the White House is to vote FOR him or an oponent who CANNOT win!
With Palin in there to temper McCain, she is a tiger and a force to be reckoned with. I'm not sure he even realizes what he took on. Unlike Cheney and his fumbling with a gun, she can at least Shoot STRAIGHT!
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 2:57 PM
Goshawk
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BrianR
You may think this a laughing matter, this election and what it means for our country, but I don't. I do not use hyperbole, I use facts that anyone can read for themselves if they choose to do so. Those facts are what the differences are between McCain and Obama. The facts are what plans both have for this country. How about sticking to facts and not emotionalism born out of bitterness?
It seems it would be up for debate exactly who has their head buried in the sand or buried in emotional muck about the mistakes of one man. During every election we are asked to choose between two flawed human beings. That's all they are, humans, who make mistakes. McCain has made his share, but he also has a 95% conservative voting record. Obama has the record of being the most liberal Senator.
You say you do not even know McCain. If you do not know him, then how can you judge him? If you do not know this man how can you be so bitter about him and call him all the names you do and accuse him of doing things he has not even done as yet?
From what knowledge do you speak? Because of the amnesty bill? If you think that amnesty bill will not pass with Obama and the dems your thinking skills have deteriorated.
By voting for Barr, you are in essence "voting for a liberal" because Barr only serves as a spoiler like others have stated. So that ends your argument you will never vote for a liberal because by default you are.
You essentially are opening the gates to Obama and the liberals you so detest and allowing them to do whatever damage they can do to our country. If you take a look, you will see that the damage they have done over the past 40 years has never been repaired. Once these liberals are voted in, it is almost impossible to get them out.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 3:28 PM
Goshawk
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Darvin Dowdy
Just went to your link and read your article. And an excellent one it is. But you know, I think your article applies to today's election situation more than ever!
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 3:34 PM
Joe
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I believe
That even when I hate some of McCain's policies, and even though I hate acepting second best (or last best in McCain's case), I will have to take McCain when confronted with he idea of picking a darn Marxist like Obimbo.
Twenty two plus years in the Army, I will not let a marxist on the White House.
We however, need to stick to McCain like flies on a polar bears butt, and not let McCain push us into amnesty, or fairness doctrine, or any of hs other stupid ideas.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 4:00 PM
Darvin Dowdy
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thanks Goshawk...
...the dem's are absolutely not to be trusted in any way. It wasn't always like that. But the extreme U.S. hating left has hijacked it.
The Libertarians have been infiltrated by the anti-semite, holocaust denying white supremacists to a certain extent. It grieves me to see Bob Barr associate himself with it, as he's a good man. Maybe, just maybe he can purge the Libertairians of that bad seed. But that can't happen anytime soon. Certainly by 11/4/08.
So any way you look at it, it has to be McCain and the GOP this time. Folks like us have no real representation anymore. That's what is frustrating to this group here. Eventually the void in representation will be filled, however. We need to be patient and not throw the baby out with the bath water. DD
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 4:36 PM
Goshawk
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Joe
I agree, I will do my part in trying to keep that Marxist pig out of the white house. By voting for McCain/Palin.
And as you say, if he's elected, we have to stay on top of his every move.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 4:53 PM
Goshawk
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Darvin Dowdy
Your absolutely right! There is no true Democratic party any longer as it has been hijacked by the far left.
Have not been following the Libertarian party very closely,so it comes as a surprise to find out that they have been infiltrated as you describe. To bad. There was a glimmer of hope there.
And I agree it is frustrating. But McCain is our last chance of defeating the far left Marxist. So, as you've said, we need to be patient and not throw the baby out with the bath water.
But like Joe posted above. If McCain does manage to get elected. We need to hold his nose to the grind stone. I have an idea that Palin may have some influence there.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 6:15 PM
BrianR
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Goshawk, Part One
You might like to try actual facts.
McCain has a 65% ACU rating. Where the hell did you come up with your figures? Are you so desperate now you have to make things up?
That's really lame, dude. That's what liberals do.
He has a LIFETIME rating of 82.3%, which has been falling steadily, and the last full year for which he was rated (2006) he earned a 65%.
And, as I know you guys like proof when your "facts" turn out to be fantasy:
http://www.acuratings.org/2007all.htm#AZ
and
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/mccains_acu_ratings. html
You have to go AAAAAALL the way back to 1996 to find a year in which McCain topped 90%; subsequent to that his highest two rating were 80% and 81%. He's generally in the 60 and 70 percentile.
Of sitting Senators "The few Republicans consistently more liberal than McCain would be Chafee (formerly R-RI), Collins (R-ME), Snowe (R-ME) and Specter (R-PA)." (American Thinker Magazine)
Further, the NRA/ILA gives him a very lousy "C" rating.
Dude, you want to play numbers games? I can do this all day and not break a sweat.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 6:15 PM
BrianR
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Part Two
Now, another of your other gems: "You say you do not even know McCain. If you do not know him, then how can you judge him?"
I judge his history, his actions, and his politics. YOU try to paint this as a personal vendetta, and it's not. However, it certainly IS a campaign against him on the basis of his value to the country as a candidate.
Look, pard, quit trying to play silly word games. You're starting to sound like Robert, and it's pathetic.
I always urge everyone to weigh the issues and candidates, then vote as how they see best. You're hapopy voting for McCain? Great!
But don't try to tell ME that my reasons for disliking and opposing him are somehow not valid, because, THAT, bud, is a matter of opinion, and yours isn't worth any more than mine; and to me is actually worth far LESS.
ESPECIALLY when you can't even get your "facts" straight.
And don't even TRY that "a vote for Barr is a vote for Obama" crapola. No, a vote for Barr is a vote for Barr. If you lameoid Republicans can't give me a candidate worth voting FOR, that's YOUR problem.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 6:19 PM
BrianR
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Oh! I almost forgot!
Barr 2008
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 6:35 PM
BrianR
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McCain v. the "liberals"
Talk about Obama, Pelosi, and Reid -- a pretty fearsome troika, no doubt!
But which of their names is on McCain-Feingold?
Of course, they all support amnesty -- as does McCain!
Amnesty will be proposed by Obama AND McCain; which one will the congressional GOPers oppose?
Which of them now has reversed their position and "supports" offshore drilling? (Answer: all 4 of them).
Which if them oppose drilling in ANWR and developing oil shale? (same answer)
Which of them believe in man-made climate change and want to pass draconian laws to address it? (Same answer)
I'm very concerned about the effect on our economy, and there's not a dime's worth of difference between them. They ALL propose policies that will destroy our country economically, in McCain's case: amnesty and Cap and Trade ALONE will do it, and you can add in the refusal to fully exploit our petroleum deposits (the only oil-producing country in the WORLD that does that).
So... I should vote for this guy WHY?
It's not PALIN who will be sitting in the Oval Office; she'll be across the street in the Old Executive Office Building (if not sent out of town on endless make-work invisible "missions" once she's no longer needed. Anyone seen Cheney lately? Is it time yet to put his face on a milk carton?).
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 7:58 PM
Goshawk
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BrianR, pt 1
Ha ha ha my turn to laugh! Your posts pt 1 and 2 sounds like you really lost it, went off the deep end!
No Brian, I don't make things up and you should know that. But I did make a mistake. His voting record is 85% conservative. Not 95% as I typed.
Man you must be getting really frustrated to start comparing me to Wobbie and the Liberals! That's a low blow man. Not that it matters, but you lost a bit of crediblity with me there.
I don't like nor will get into a debate of exchanging facts. It won't change my vote for McCain or yours from Bar. But I will post some ADA info that refutes your saying McCain is as Liberal as Obama.
The ADA ratings for 2006 were based on 20 recorded votes. The ADA ratings indicate:
(1) that John McCain voted the liberal way on only 15 percent of these issues (85 percent of his votes were conservative),
(2) that this was less liberal than any Democrat in the Senate, including Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton who both voted for the liberal position 95 percent of the time, and
(3) that while 41 Republican Senators in 2006 voted the liberal position less often, 8 Republicans had more liberal voting records, and 4 had records identical to McCain’s.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 8:01 PM
Goshawk
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BrianR, pt 2
The ADA record is consistent with the ACU record on McCain. He is a conservative, not a liberal. There are Senators who are more conservative (or less liberal) than him, but most of the Senate is considerably more liberal and less conservative than him. The idea that McCain is a liberal has absolutely NO support at all in the overall record, whether assessed by the ACU or the ADA. The peculiar idea that there is no difference between McCain and either Clinton or Obama is also just not supported by the record. As John Adams said, and as Ronald Reagan reiterated, “facts are stubborn things.”
McCain’s conservative critics need to reacquaint themselves with the facts and regain some perspective. He is not 100 percent conservative, but 85 percent or 82 percent conservative is a conservative and is far, far different than the sub-ten percent conservative record of the Democrats’ very liberal Senators Clinton and Obama.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 8:06 PM
str8_talk
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Palin
Update on my site...
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 8:33 PM
wil
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Even if you concede that McCain is 65%
on conservative issues.....depending on which issues he comes down liberal on, is it not worth a vote for a portion of what you want rather than a vote for 10% of what you want?
I guess to answer my own question, it depends on what you view as the consequences. If you see putting up with Carter as the price of President Reagan, then maybe since the world didn't end under carter, it was worth it. But Carter drastically changed my life. His environmental policies sent Oregon and its timber, fishing, and agriculture industries into a regulation induced tailspin that it only began to recover from after 20 years. My home town had 3 lumber mills, all went bankrupt between 1978 and 1981. I grew up on a farm, we had to sell off all our cattle to pay bills...For us, the Carter presidency was the end of a way of life.
I know too that to you Brian, the war on terror is a sham, and foreign policy differences don't matter, or in fact, you see them from the opposite perspective. That probably makes it easier to vote third party as well, but I believe passionately in what we did in response to 9-11. Because of that, there is a huge difference to me between McCain and Obama, much bigger than between Cruz Bustamonte or Phil Angelides and Schwartzenegger.
I probably shouldn't have injected my opinion into a discussion between you and Goshawk, but there's my two cents for what its worth.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 8:36 PM
Virginia Patriot
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Palin Is Certainly Better Looking
Than ChiaSenator.
But she doesn't change the top of the ticket. She will have to sign on to amnesty and cap and trade.
You're still voting for amnesty.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 9:22 PM
Goshawk
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Virginia Patriot
I don't see it that way. If we at least keep the Republicans in. We can fight to stop amnesty or any other dumb idea that McCain or others try and put through.
If we let the Obama Marxist and his socialist followers just walk in without a fight. You are guaranteeing that amnesty and any number of communist/socialist policies will be put in place.
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 10:21 PM
BrianR
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Pathetic, Godhawk, (and Wil)
You: "His voting record is 85% conservative. Not 95% as I typed."
No. They're not. I already posted his record, rating, and the apporpriate links. It's very fine to just be able to make stuff up, but BUMMER! There are people whbo call you on it! Like me!
I don't even have any idea what you're talking about with "ADA", because the only thing I'm aware of being known as the "ADA" is the Americans for Disability Act.... not exactly a font of conservatism.
Not only THAT, but AGAIN your claim that McLiberal has even an "80%" rating is a ..... lie?.... misstatement?
I posted links, again. Yours are.........where?
And Wil, as I've posted earlier, if you're happy voting for McCain... good for you.
As to your question: "Even if you concede that McCain is 65% on conservative issues.....depending on which issues he comes down liberal on, is it not worth a vote for a portion of what you want rather than a vote for 10% of what you want?"
My answer: NO!
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Saturday, August, 30, 2008 11:04 PM
Goshawk
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BrianR
ADA= Americans for Democratic Action.
Look for yourself (if your through trying to put people down for not agreeing with you. That is truly pathetic.) Of course you will somehow disagree with what you find. But the whole world can see, this is not "just made up."
http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2008/02/john-mccain-is-a-co nservative-deal-with-it/
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:09 AM
Gray Ghost
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Wow, Can Things Change in an Instant!
I went to Coahoma Community College for a quick inspection on a project under construction. I get a call and the next thing I know I am getting set to go to the MS Gulf Coast to take a look at a standby generator site 10 miles North of the Gulf.
I left at 2:30am and got to the coast at about 10:00am (bumper-to-bumper traffic going North). I finished up the inspection and test about 3:00pm. I then headed back to Clarksdale. I arrived back at about 10:30pm. On the way back, my wife and I talked about my grandchildren. I will pick them up either tomorrow or Monday morning. Monroe, LA schools are going to be closed all week. My daughter will stay at the hospital where she works. My son-in-law will stay with her.
Gustav looks pretty bad (Cat 5 probably by tomorrow). Things could get "rough" in LA if the storm strengthens further and if its projected path stays like it is.
At least, I get to go to sleep tonight with "Mutiny on the Bounty". We recorded it off TCM yesterday. I love the music in this movie and have always been fascinated by the Bounty and Pitcairn's Island.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:11 AM
Darvin Dowdy
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One more reason...
...to vote straight GOP on 11/4/08. There are still some very conservative republicans in the senate and especially the congress who can help block any hair-brained legislation that McCain and the dem's try to push through. Certainly the blue dog democrats will tow the party line as they are terrified of Nan Pelosi. So the only chance of stopping stupid legislation is with these republicans.
Remember, this is only a blocking action to buy us time.
I totally agree w/BrianR regarding McCain. He'll have to watched closely. But w/McCain our nation can survive. I'm fairly certain that it will not, as we know it, with Obama and his progressives. I'm reminded of the Biblical reference to the demons who went into a herd of pigs and the herd ran off the side of a cliff. DD
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:12 AM
BrianR
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Gosh
The ACU and the NRA/ILA are the standards for evaluating conservatism in candidates.
As to the ADA "Americans for Democratic Action" you quoted, here's the Yahoo search definition of their site:
"Independent liberal political organization, dedicated to individual liberty and building economic and social justice at home and abroad.
Yeah, man, I am SOOOOOO impressed by your source.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:12 AM
Gray Ghost
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By The way....
Has anyone heard anything about Hal Donahue. Georgetwin said he was going in to the hospital for testing yesterday.
I hope the best for him and he will be in my prayers. I still think he is an "idiot"; but I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to him.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:13 AM
BrianR
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PS, Goshawk
Got Soros's phone number handy, too?
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:19 AM
Gray Ghost
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Everyone...........
I hope that the arguements and debates that have been going on here at my site while I was gone were friendly.
Our different ideas and ways of looking at the problems which face all of us are our real strength. (And I don't mean the Libturd "diversity")
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:19 AM
Gar Swaffar
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GG
I concur, the 'dust heap of history' - best place for HRC's chance at being POTUS
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:20 AM
wil
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Hey Gray Ghost
Stay safe and good luck with that storm coming....only saw one hurricane when I lived in Georgia and have no desire to see another.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:24 AM
BrianR
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Unfortunately, Ghost
The "hold your nosers" are getting so desperate in light of Palin's meaningless nomination that the tenor of discussion here and everywhere else has devolved into rabid hysteria and rampant ad homina.
Anyone who hasn't hopped onto the McCain Suicide Express is now the equivalent of a "traitor".
Pretty funny, actually, when you consider that the bottom line hasn't changed one iota since Wednesday, before her nomination.
Gotta say, the entertainment level has risen dramatically.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:34 AM
Gray Ghost
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BrianR
You know where I stand on McCain.
But my wife just went over to the McCain side. She said that the Palin choice makes the difference to her. I understand what she is saying. I am just not sure I can "stomach" it though.
But remember it is a little over two months until the election. Alot can happen.
Including LA being blown away. I just hope my daughter and son-in-law will be OK.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:38 AM
Gray Ghost
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wil
I have seen way more than I would like. So far I have been thru Camille (the eye went right over Clarksdale and I went with my father to the coast 3 days later to help on the cleanup) and Katrina (2 weeks on the Gulf Coast after landfall). This doesn't include the more than 10 tropical storms and minimal hurricanes that I can remember over the last 40 years.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:41 AM
Gray Ghost
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DD
It is imperative that everyone vote in November for every Conservative Republican or other party (except Dumbocrap).
Regardless of who is elected, a Conservative Congress is a very strong defense against any Liberal policies.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:45 AM
Gray Ghost
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boaz
If the McCain/Palin ticket wins the elction, I truly believe that Hitlery is in the "dust heap" of history.
If Obama/Biden win, she still is in the "dust heap". Obama will run again in 2012. That would mean that Hitlery would only have a chance again in 2016. She will then be too old.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 1:46 AM
Gray Ghost
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Night Everybody....
I have got to be up early to pick up grandchildren.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 2:00 AM
bob's my uncle
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Re: McCain as conservative or not.
As far as I'm concerned, John McCain has not been conservative ENOUGH for me. He has ruined many of the best chances to advance a conservative agenda in this country. And I have at times expressed my extreme exasperation with him.
But, the hard, cold reality is that either Barack Obama or John McCain will be the next POTUS. That is a fact!
Bob Barr, God love him, does not have a chance in hell of garnering a plurality of the electorate in this election, nor would there be an electoral college that would put him in office.
Right now, I don't give a d*** what percent conservative John McCain is and I'm not gonna go look anything up either. When you put John McCain up side to side with Barack Obama, John McCain looks a whole lot like Ronald Reagan by comparison. Now keep in mind, I'm comparing him to B.O., not Ronald Reagan. When I compare J.M. to Reagan, I get a little queasy.
What I am saying is that lately, John McCain has said and done some things that have eased my mind about him a bit. I am not looking through rose-colored specs here, I know he and I are looking through opposite ends of the telescope on a lot of issues. But, after seeing the Obamathon last week, and what they've got in store for us, I don't want my country to got to hell just yet. And I think John McCain is the best chance we've got for it. With Obama, we're gonna get flushed down the Socialist crapper for sure.
That's it, and I think I will post this on my page.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 2:29 AM
str8_talk
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BMU
Well said and I agree. It's what I've been saying all along, I'm not voting FOR Cain, I'm voting against BO!
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 2:31 AM
BrianR
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Yep, Ghost, no problem
If someone wants to vote for McCain, that's their choice, and I've never insulted them for doing so.
Which is a lot more than I can say for a lot of them in their responses to my stating the reasons why I WON'T hop on the wagon.
That's the big difference, and it's a hoot, because whereas I'm used to being called names by liberals -- THAT'S been happening for decades -- now I also get it from "conservatives".
Gotta laugh.
Too bad about your wife, especially so close to her almost being persuaded just a couple of days ago. But like you said, it's still a couple months until the election.
Maybe she can still be saved!
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 2:34 AM
Purplegimp
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It's not easy
I decided way back to just hold my nose and vote McCain. Palin doesn't change that. She just makes it a little easier. I don't much care about the Republican Party. I do care about the country and the only person I can think of who would be worse or as bad as Bam Bam is Hitlery herself.
It really is just that simple for me.
Can I go back to drooling over my personal communist now? (long story and NOYB!)
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 6:36 AM
Goshawk
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BrianR
Oh, that's a cute bit about Soros Brian! You really know how to sling them out there like the best of the Moonbats!
Well let me tell yo something. I found out a lot about you tonight.
Over the last couple of years I thought that you and I had become friends. And was even looking forward to going shooting with you and having you over to go hunting with me.
But this evening you showed me your true colors. I've normaly agreed with you on these blogs. But the first time I "disagree" with you, you turn on me like Flies on Sh*t. Throughout this entire debate you've done your best to belittle me and put me down in a most nasty manner. Accusing me of making up things and being a Liberal or a dingbat like Robert! I've overlooked most of your childish rants and ad-homain attacks, but no more! This last one was way over the top! Proving you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself and your own warped opinion.
You of course will keep your hard core followers as long as they agree and go along with you. But not I. You seem to be the one with the Ego and Little Man Complex. So I want nothing more to do with you.
And you needn't reply to this post. I won't respond to anything you say, or write, ever.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 8:21 AM
Gray Ghost
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Goshawk
Politics makes for for strange bedfellows, or so my grandfather use to say. I am sorry that the arguement got intense.
Please consider this, I believe that BrianR loves our country. I know that you do.
I am heading to LA to pick up my grands in a few minutes. I'll talk more later.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 9:11 AM
Redhead
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GGhost
The Crimson Horde has provisionally endorsed Palin, and we have another program you may be interested in...
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 4:33 PM
Keys to the Right
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GG
I'm pretty stoked about this pick. But I bet that Phil has told you about some links on Brian R's sight with some more info on Palin, I need to check it out myself b/c I'm not quite sure what it's about.
It's shameless plug time at K to the R, new cartoon up.
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Sunday, August, 31, 2008 6:28 PM
TNconservative
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This is very over-rated. McCain loses.
It is a running mate choice people.
People by and large don't vote for a running mate, they vote for the candidate.
So McCain picked a strong conservative. So did Bob Dole. It didn't help. All of this has been tried before and didn't work.
This is being preceived by non-McCain supporters as a desperate move to try to make history because McCain knows he couldn't win. An attempt to win flaming liberal Clinton supporters. That is exactly what it is too.
This excited McCain supporters and thats it.
McCain will not retain the same voters who voted for President Bush. The issue of Bob Barr, third parties, and write ins from people who will not vote for McCain is completely ignored.
As a matter of fact can someone please tell me of one place in the media where you can hear someone tell it like it is about McCain? Everyone talks about how Obama may not get all of the democrat support. I think they greatly underestimate the partisanship of democrats. But who is out there saying that McCain will not retain the conservative vote??
As a conservative I cannot vote for Obama, but I don't feel that I can vote for McCain either, and to be honest, as a conservative I think a McCain win is the worst case senario for election 2008.
If you somehow give McCain the win, you will make liberal McCain the new icon of the republican party and of what a conservative is.
If McCain loses, democrats will face all the blame for gas prices and everything else. Conservatives would finally be forced to focus on the house which is what they should be doing.
I just hope people actually think about all of this before november, because what I have seen so far they are operating off nothing more than partisan fear mongering.
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Monday, September, 01, 2008 7:42 AM
Sgt Relic
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Hey Ghost
Time to duck. I hope you and yours will be safe and sound. I've got one named Hannah trying to sneak up on me right now.
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Monday, September, 01, 2008 8:04 AM
frankcott
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Obama Biden weakness detected.
Furthermore, there is a major flaw I discovered in the Obama-Biden ticket. They said kind words about Palin and didn't attack her yet she stands for everything their against. Obama and Biden laid off of Palin because she is a women and not because she in agreement with their policies and principles. So that means Obama-Biden compromise what is right or wrong, they back down to facing a woman (or black, spanish whatever caucus they go against). This is major flaw in their character and I haven't seen anyone pick up on this.
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Monday, September, 01, 2008 10:21 AM
clyde
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Gray Ghost
Everything OK down your way there? Looks like Gustav may be coming in more to your west. Be thinking about you and the rest of the folks down there. TN con, welcome to Camp Pariah!
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Monday, September, 01, 2008 10:32 PM
bob's my uncle
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Gray Ghost
Hope y'all are OK down on the Gulf Coast. I am a hurricane survivor, myself. Two of them. I was 5 yrs old in 1961 when Carla hit Houston for about 4 days. We rode it out, played board games and bingo while the wind blew and howled. We lost a window. I don't remember much else except seeing some damage when we drove around afterwards. In 1970 or '72 we rode out Celia in Corpus Christi. It was a direct hit on the downtown area. From my house we watched our neighbors' roofs getting blown off and debris flying. Although not a huge storm, it had gusts clocked at 200+ mph as it made landfall. Lot's of damage and we were without power for about a month. To a young feller, like I was, it was kinda like camping out. One thing more, we didn't have a bunch of Federal aid coming to our rescue. I don't even think there was a FEMA at the time. We did for ourselves, because we had to. It wasn't all fun. No A/C, mosquitos were terrible, we had to wait in long lines to get food and ice from refrigerated trucks. But life gets back to normal pretty quick when you do what you have to do.
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Tuesday, September, 02, 2008 8:38 AM
davecatbone
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BTW Gray Ghost,
I've a new post linking to the same from Garnet about the charges against Sarah Palin. You may find it interesting.
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Tuesday, September, 02, 2008 10:40 AM
KevInFl
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Gray Ghost
What is your take on Fowler and Moore's dispicable Joy over Gustav?? I did a post on this today but havent seen much else on this but to me it is a big deal cause reveals Dems/Libs for what low life dregs they really are. I am SO glad I got out of that cespool years ago.
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Tuesday, September, 02, 2008 7:41 PM
Peppermint2
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Gray Ghost
Thinking about you and your family. Hope all is OK with them. My prayers are still going out to you.
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Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 12:16 AM
philosophocon
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Well, for what it's worth,
I've maintained that long-term a McCain win would be the worst thing for the U.S. American politics will become like California or Canadian politics, where conservative is a dirty word and so called conservatives/Republicans will try to out-liberal liberals in order to show they can be 'compassionate' and 'progressive', and thus worth voting for, too, pretty please with sugar on it. That's right, you too will be able to choose between 'consevative' tax and spenders and 'liberal' tax and spenders. Yip, yip, yahoo.
Is McCain better than Obama as a candidate? No Shiite, Sherlock. But let's not forget that Trotsky was preferable to Stalin. Also, am I the only one noticing the changes to the Republican Party's platform to accomodate the Maverick's views? How many conservative principles do we give up just because some are better than none? After all, one is better than none, is that the 'line in the sand'? Perfection may well be the enemy of the good, but what about mediocrity, which is a generous way of defining McCain's conservatism as far as I'm concerned.
His voting record may be 65%, 75%, 85% conservative, depending on who is counting, but what was the significance of these votes? Specifically, what are the pieces of legislation WITH HIS NAME ON THEM? One of the greatest assaults on the first amendment in legislative history and one of the biggest give-aways of U.S. sovereignty? Limitations on how far we can go in interrogating terrorists? Where was he on making the Bush tax cuts permanent, the defense of marriage act? Geez, yeah, my leg's tingling, better call Chris Matthews.
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Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 4:12 PM
caday5
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Grayghost
Regarding point #1, she is currently under investigation and has hired an attorney. That certainly doesn't imply guilt but the question becomes what will we learn in the future.
Regarding point #2 &3, she originally supported the famous "bridge to nowhere" and opposed it only after Congress killed the idea.
As for her approval ratings, please stay tuned. It is one thing to have those ratings after 1 and 1/2 years and another to have them after 5 or 10 years.
So much is not known about her and that lack of info should not imply that she can deliver if she was VP or even President if she had to.
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Sunday, September, 07, 2008 10:00 AM
Gray Ghost
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Back in Clarksdale; Gustav Not Too Bad
Well I am back in Clarksdale after a week of "Gustav". I have helped on everything from making up sand bags to consulting on substation relaying. Thank goodness, I didn't have to sleep in my truck (as I did during Katrina).
To everyone who wished me well here, Thank You.
My grandchildren had a great time (I wish I could say the same about me; I am getting too old for all of this.).
I hope to have a new article out in a few days on what happened during Gustav.
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Sunday, September, 07, 2008 12:04 PM
BrianR
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Ghost
Guess what McLiberal's done to try to lose all the good faith from the Palin announcement?
Swing by and see.
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Sunday, September, 07, 2008 4:04 PM
Bobbie
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Great post Ghost.
I'm thrilled with the Sarah Palin choice. I was really scared McCain was going to pick Joe Lieberman. Maybe 2012 will bring us Palin Jindall. That would be encouraging to say the least.
Keep up the good work. Drop by my site when you have a minute.
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Monday, September, 08, 2008 1:44 PM
crossbow
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Bobbie,Brian GG
I agree.
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Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 8:35 PM
str8_talk
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GG
New post at my site, shameless plug... ;)
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Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 11:41 PM
davecatbone
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Ghost
looks like the next two missed also, I'm glad for that. Looking forward to the post about Gustav.
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Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 11:08 AM
BrianR
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Ghost
Another aspect of the topic du jour up at my place.
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 2:01 PM
Redhead
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GGhost
I just ran across this column by John Stossel (is he a day late at TH?)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/green_job s.html
The part that caught my attention was this quote from Obama's site: "Obama will strategically invest $150 billion over 10 years to accelerate the commercialization of plug-in hybrids, ..., and begin transition to a new digital electricity grid."
Digital electricity grid?? Any idea what he's talking about? The only thing I can think of is digital metering and relaying, but most utilities are already putting this into place. It makes sense from a free market perspective for them to meter the power going into and out of their system and for this information to be available in realtime via computer networks. And most relays are going digital, many with metering built in. What else could this be?
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Monday, September, 15, 2008 9:46 AM
crossbow
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G-Ghost
What do you think about the latest Obama quote that the war "is not worth winning"
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Monday, September, 15, 2008 11:14 AM
Gray Ghost
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Crossbow
I think that O'Vomit is "FULL OF SH*T", sincerely.
Watch for an article I will put out today on this subject.
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