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Comment on: Snow Knight's Castle

"Joesf" A Warrior goes home

62 Comments

I am sorry

To here of your loss.Truly "Joesf" must of been a good man. He was (and many who resisted) a true hero for Liberty! God bless.

Joesf, The Warrior

Dear Snow Knight

My heart goes out to you and your family for the loss of your dear friend, Joesf. May he rest in peace and find everlasting comfort with God. God bless all of you! Shalom!

my condolences

You spoke of him well, which has to be a good testament to his life. What those people went through was incredible. It's almost impossible such hatred could exist in humanity and it seems like it can't be duplicated. Problem is I think we are about to duplicate it quite soon. God bless "Joesf", and his friends and family. Tell your father that a blogger and fellow Christian warrior expresses his regrets at his loss. God bless you all.

Snow Knight

He sounded like a great man. I am sorry for your loss.

watch dawg

The lessons of such heroism live on. I am on the mailing list of the National Holocaust Museum in Wash. I am fully dedicated to the education efforts of many who say with courage "NEVER AGAIN"

dawndawn

Thanks---He was a insipation to everyone and I am still in contact with his family--wonderful people!!

Jesse-fellow warrior

The storm clouds are fastly forming on the horison. But the God of Abraham STILL is our rock!!I will give your message--and to "Joesf"s family!!

Sue

He was and then some-Sue. Many who fought during WW2 thought"why are we fighting"? and then they saw the death camps. We must see that this horror never happens again---What Jesse said is right--sadly-the signs are appearing in this country.

Snow Knight

I put my comment on your blog post "win in Georgia" by mistake. I want to express my heartfelt condolences-"Joesf" and many others stood up to one of the greatest evils that the earth had ever seen!!Now we must do all we can so that this does not EVER happen again. Shalom my friend and Shalom---"Joesf" Warrior for Liberty.

A True Warrior

was "Joesf" what he fought agenst must--I repeat- MUST not ever happen again. Keep the candle burning Snow. God Bless.

Joesf

Rest in peace. Do not worry, because we will never forget.

Snow Knight

I can't even imagine those camps. That is so hard to even imagine. Adn to live through it.

Who knows where the heck we are going. But I for one am not going to let this bucket head take us down. We are only up to what day 50 now? Oh my gosh, he needs to resign.

hey

got a new post up. I think it's one of my best. Stop by when you can. Thanks for passing on the message to your father. God bless.

Ben

Yes, "Joesf" would be more than happy that many hear his heroic story!!

Shadow95

Totall agreement. Sadly the storm clouds are forming in our Nartion even as I write.

Crawfish

Never forget!! We will never forget!

Sue

I listen to a radio program whose host toured Autwitz--he never forgot it because he had a family member who was a victim of that madness.

A blessed Man

who has fought through something worse than we will ever experience. RIP and hope he is having some great conversations with God!

Yes, Eric

He was--and a teacher. His life will inspire many to live to be free--and give courage to many who are now oppressed.

sorry Snow Knight

you were blessed to have known such a person. A gift for you....

Davecat

Hey!! sorry I could not comment earlier! I got called away on an electrecal repair call!! Thank you for your comment--I am still in touch with "Joesf"s family--they are very couragous and are continueing his legacy to educate about the hulocaust.

Quite a tribute there, Snow.

We should all be so priviledged as to know a "joest" in our personal lives. We would be less likely to become "sheeple" Good, inspiring post. May Joest rest in peace in God's heaven.

Snow Knight

My Deepest Sympathy. "Joesf" is in a better place. My MIL was raised in Socialist Poland, however she thinks it was PARADISE?!?!? BTW she is a financially independent business owner and fully vested pensioner. I guess there is no accounting for taste or the lack thereof.

Snow Knight

I shared "Joesf"s story with my class. Today is Holocaust rememberance day. God bless you and others who keep stories of courage like "Joesf" so the world my see that such evil apon humanity never happens again. Shalom my friend!

Ben

To put it bluntly, you are glad that Snow supports your gang. After all, isn't that what nations are like when they don't adhere to international law and promote equality and justice?

o caday

"nations don't adhere to international law and promote equality and justice"? O you mean nations like Iran who has an American held on trumpted up charges or Socialist North Korea that has their own citzens in labor camps-- at last yes we agree on something do we not? problem is I do not support those "gangs" and I believe neither does ben and any other who cherishes the blessings of liberty.

Ben Israel

Your welcome. I am still in touch with Joesfs family. They are wonderful people and are very apprciative of the kind words written here about Joesf.

Bobbie and Georgetwin

Hey!! sorry I I did not mean to overlook your kind comments!! I pass all of them to Joesfs family. They would be thrilled to see the lessons of Joesfs (and many others) courage carried on!!God Bless!

CADAY:JEWS, PALESTINIANS & WORLD PEACE

If Israeli social policies JEWSwere modeled on Palestinian practices lions and lambs would lie down togther and peace would break out all over the universe. Racism, cultural imperialism and religious intolerance would miraculously disappear. Disease, famine, poverty and natural disasters would be no more. And seeing how righteous humanity is the Messiah at last would descend from heaven to save us. All it would take to transform and save the world is Israel taking a bold progressive leap forward in adopting the superior character and moral qualities of the sainted, Godly Palestinians.


Apollospeaks-welcome

hard sell isn't it? The media of the whole world just loves the palistinians and yet it is Israel that is the first genuine efforts of peace!!!

Apollo

Perhaps Romans 3:9 would shed some light on the subject:

"What then? Are we better off? Not at all; for we have already charged that all, both Jews and Gentiles, are under the power of sin."

Paul then quotes the Psalms in saying that no man seeks God. One can easily find sin in Palestinian society. But unless you believe in superiority and entitlement, then you have to acknowledge a worse sin in Israel as it uses its greater power to abuse and kill Palestinians.

CADAY

Israel uses its greater power to kill Palestinians? Oh the shame of it! Would you prefer that Israel level the playing field and adopt Palestinian methods of war? Instead of tanks and F-16s why not send Israeli suicide bombers into Palestinian hotels, restaurants, mosques and movie theaters. Is that what you'd prefer?

Apollo

In the 30's Nazi Germany preferred to use greater power to kill Poles, Czecks, Jews, and others. Should they have conducted a war of equals?

The problem is using force rather than abiding by law. Israel is using force to strangle the Palestinians and take their land even though there is an alternative. The alternative is to abide by international law and return to the '67 borders. I do not know 1 Arab country that does not endorse that plan.

So the problem isn't whether Israel should play war on the same battlefield. The problem is that Israel chooses to play war to take more land and resources for itself and in the meantime, they continue to kill Palestinian civilians including women and children.

Snow

Or Israel who has imprisoned the Palestinians and taken half of their land and control water resources on confiscated Palestinian land. Or the US whose sanctions killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children and whose invasion killed up to 1.2 million Iraqis.

What do you think Ahmadinejad appeals to? He appeals to the need to readdress past and present wrongs, though his solutions will not be just.

Did you know that in a war, both sides can be evil?

caday

Who's land is it?? It was my understanding that issue was settled long ago--and YOU admitted to it.

Snow

You admitted to it. I said that the land belongs to the Palestinians. Was there a historic claim and need? Yes. But not one that implies that Israel has right to dominate, displace and murder others.

caday

where in the Bible does it say that God gave the land to the "Palestinians"? Show me, caday. Book-chapter and verse.

CADAY

Quit lying! The US sanctions killed no one. Saddam Hussein killed them so that idiots like you would go around making martyrs of them. Some people fall for that carp because they are stupid, you do it because you hate liberty and freedom. You'll lie about anything to be anti-American.

Snow

Show me in the NT that the land is to be returned to Israel? Nowhere does it say that. In fact, quite the opposite is said. God's people are not longer to consolidate in one place, they are to go out to the ends of the world to preach the gospel.

The problem is that you have made the land an absolute, or a idol, and forgot why it was given and its place.

Jim

You are quite wrong. It wasn't Saddamn who killed the people who died of diseases caused by our illegal bombing of Iraqi infrastructure from the first gulf war and then preventing of the repair of that infrastructure by the sanctions. Think how you would live without electricity, clean water and sewage treatment which is what we targeted in the first gulf war. Those attacks of our violated the Geneva Convention.

That our sanctions killed these people has been acknowledged by our own gov't. The sanctions were structured to make the people who live south of the kurdish area suffer the brunt of the sanctions.

Jim, did you ever think that the US could be guilty of some pretty nasty stuff?

I'll answer that!

In Revelation chapter 14. Mt Zion (which IS in Isreal) is clearly mentioned. Jesus triumphs along with all who are with him--what you stil fail to understand caday is Christians get the whole earth---the meek shall inherit the earth--remember? Thus the land that is called the holy land is incuded. The curent country of Israel is a vital part of God gathering his people back to their own land.--face it caday.

Watchdawg

What you don't get is that the nation Israel receives God's salvation by believing the Gospel, not repossessing the land. Since, as Romans 9:6ff states, that not all Israel is of Israel. Or as Paul writes in Galations, it is those who believe the Gospel who are the true descendants of Abraham, in contrast to the descendants of Abraham through the flesh. Or Jesus's rebukes of the Pharisees regarding their pride in being related to both Abraham and Moses. And contrary to the title of your note, you didn't cite anywhere in the NT where Israel is commanded to take the land back or is mentioned as repossessing the land at all. The mentioning of Mt Zion implies nothing about the nation Israel.

In addition, we get the whole earth to preach the Gospel, not to dominate. Paul states that our weapons are spiritual, not physical. Furthermore, Hebrews tells us that we have no home on this earth and this is also implied in Revelation 12 where the woman and her descendants are persecuted by the dragon in the wilderness--remember that the wilderness was the place that Israel wandered as aliens on their way to the promised land.

So, still waiting Watchdawg. I understand the sentiment but the NT is clear with regards to Abraham's true descendants being spiritual descendants rather than descendants through the flesh.

WRONG!!caday

The mentioning of Mt Zion has EVERYTHING to do with the nation of Israel!!because it IS IN Israel!!!You cannot get around this one caday. It is also reference to the church those who are truly in christ--WIN.WE get the WHOLE EARTH!!Land of Israel included!.You just cannot accept the truth that is RIGHT before your eyes!!That will always be your own stumblingblock. Is it because of your pride or blindness?

WatchDawg

The mentioning of Mount Zion carries no implications with the regathering of the Jews. There is nothing in the rest of the NT that indicates that. That this could have happened anytime after the diaspora also indicates that. That the true descendants of Abraham are not the Jews in the flesh but those who, like Abraham, believed despite their own fleshly abilities also indicates this. That Paul regards as loss all of his Jewish accomplishments because they mean nothing indicates this. God's people are those who believe in Christ, not those who have an certain ancestry. When Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for unbelief, he was addressing this point.

Wrong again! caday

I said "those who are truly IN CHRIST-WIN. There are no Jew or Gentile--only those who are truly is HIM.THAT'S my point!!!To qoute you "Gods people are those who believe in Christ" so you are in AGREEMENT. The vision in Rev 14 was given to give hope to Christs followers in who wins in the end. The mentioning of Mt Zion is BOTH geographical AND spiritual there is NO dening this!If continue to contest this Biblical truth you run the risk of being on the losing end of God's word--not a good place to be in God's eyes.

Watchdawg

despite the confusion of your notes, the issue isn't whether we will win, the issue is how we will win. We are not in a physical battle with spiritual implications, we are in a spiritual battle where, as Paul said, our weapons are spiritual, not fleshly.

Christians are not called to fight physical wars for the Gospel, they are called to preach the Gospel and accept what happens. That doesn't mean that physical wars are never necessary, it does mean that such wars are fought for general justice issues where the soldiers include Christians and non-Christians, and unfortunately, Christians have fought on both sides in such wars.

Likewise our defenses are spiritual not physical--this is at least what Paul says.

Also, our treasure is to be in heaven not on earth, this is what Jesus says.

Finally, the mention of Zion in Revelation implies nothing about the regathering of the Jews in Israel. I will leave it to you to prove otherwise.

Curt, You're a Bent Anti-American

So Saddam would rather his people die then to abide by the rules he agreed to and set down by the UN and you want to blame us for that. Well here is the truth, it's all your fault! If you had intervened and stopped the Iraqi army from invading Kuwait and had stopped Saddam for gassing hundreds of thousands of people, and had forced Al Qaeda out of Iraq to keep them from bombing the World Trade Centers and Afghanistan. Millions of people wouldn't have died. It's all on your head.

That your lack of action killed these people has been acknowledged by me and others here. Your lack of action was structured to make the people who live all over the world suffer the brunt of the actions.

Curt, did you ever think that YOU could be guilty of some pretty nasty stuff?

Curt, You're a Bent Anti-American

So Saddam would rather his people die then to abide by the rules he agreed to and set down by the UN and you want to blame us for that. Well here is the truth, it's all your fault! If you had intervened and stopped the Iraqi army from invading Kuwait and had stopped Saddam for gassing hundreds of thousands of people, and had forced Al Qaeda out of Iraq to keep them from bombing the World Trade Centers and Afghanistan. Millions of people wouldn't have died. It's all on your head.

That your lack of action killed these people has been acknowledged by me and others here. Your lack of action was structured to make the people who live all over the world suffer the brunt of the actions.

Curt, did you ever think that YOU could be guilty of some pretty nasty stuff?

Jim

First, Clinton sabotaged the rules so that Saddamn could not follow them.

Second, why did we set the rules so that their people would die if his gov't did not comply? Again, Saddamn was a monster but we were the ones pointing the gun, making threats and pulling the trigger. And we were the ones who destroyed most of their civilian infrastructure, a war crime, before the sanctions.

Also, what you need to realize is that until the invasion of Kuwait, we were complicit in all of Saddamn's crimes since we provided money and materials for the WMDs he used. In addition, why take credit for forcing Al-Qaeda out of Iraq when they didn't enter Iraq until after our invasion?

BTW, if you want to support your country right or wrong, then take credit for the gang warfare mentality that follows. It was Augustine who said that the gov'ts that did not follow law and practice justice were merely a gang of thieves. Certainly that fits many gov'ts in the world and it also fits ours regardless of the political affiliation of the President.

As horrifically wrong as the terrorism is, much of it is in response to our unjust actions. So if you want to fault me for wanting to abstain from unjust actions, go ahead. Also, why fault me for consequences that were not the result of my decisions? We weren't inactive prior to 9-11 and thus we were attacked. We were not attacked because I, as President, kept my country from acting. That didn't occur so please show me where my fault is here.

Curt, You're Guilty!

And don't try to talk your way out of it. You caused millions of deaths and you can't talk your way out of this one. If you had taken action, none of this would have occured. Be a man and and admit that it's all your fault.

As horrifically wrong as thein-action is, much of it is in response to our just actions. So if I want to fault you for in-action I will. It's your fault for for in-acation not for your lack of decisions! If you took action prior to 9-11 and thwarted the attack millions of people would have been saves. We were attacked because you did nothing to prevent it. Therefore it's your fault.

Jim

Either it is a poor attempt at humor or perhaps you need a rest.

Again, we were attacked because of our actions, not our inactivity. We were attacked because of our sanctions and war against Iraq, because of our support for Israel as they have murdered many innocent Palestinians, and because of the presence of our troops in Saudi Arabia. All of that is pretty documented by both Robert Fisk and CNN. You could add Jason Burke to that list of documentation as well.

Though the last reason is religiously based, the other two deal with issues of justice and morality--and we were lacking just as those who attacked us were lacking. Sometimes, war pits evil against evil.

And of course what is not included here is our support for Saddamn Hussein before he invaded Kuwait. So, whatever point you would like to make, please include facts that are both true and fit your argument.

Curt, You Don't Get It

YOU!!!! You are to blame for these deaths. Just You. Be a man and admit that you did nothing to prevent these deaths and YOUR inaction is exclusively to blame. Quit trying to lay the blame on others, it's all about you! You are a murderer!!!

Jim

The only way you can claim to be right is to claim to be right--kind of like the Pope. International law states otherwise. According to such law, you cannot target civilian infrastructure, that is what we did in the first gulf war. And the subsequent sanctions kept that same infrastructure nonfunctional. As a result, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children died of disease as we enforced those sanctions and kept their infrastructure in the same state.

So our enemy sees our blatant disregard for civilian life and decides to imitate our actions. And you want to blame me because our enemy imitated actions that you support and I oppose.

Manhood is not the issue here, logic is. And you have failed to make your point. If you want, we can repeat this as long as you like. The constant that will stay with the discussion is that actions you supported and I opposed caused an enemy to attack us in a similar way.

You Failed Miserably Again Curt

I've made my point, now stop trying to blame others for your failure. If you had stopped Saddam, none of this would have happened. Everyone here sees very plainly that this is all YOUR fault. You will have to live with the deaths of millions of innocent women and children on your head. You heartless murderer!

Jim

Again, our country has done wrong things and we got an unjust payback when we were attacked. Their anger was justified but their actions were horrifically immoral--just as our actions have been.

Now I can repeat that as long as you like while you can say whatever it is you are saying.

caday

I did not mention jews- I wrote "those truly IN CHRIST" in quoting please be spicific--or you will look very dumb. I wrote nothing about fighting phisical wars for the Gospel--are you gonna put words here that I did not write???I pointed out to you theat the vision in Rev 14 was given to followers of Jesus (there is neather jew or gentile so get it streight in you mind)Mt Zion is both phisical AND spititual.Christ triumphs and all who put their trust in HIM will be there with him ON this earth--incliding the land.

Watchdawg

I don't disagree with putting trust in Christ. The question was are the Jews to be regathered and given back the land of Israel? And if so, then do the Jews have the right to take the land from the Palestinians? That was the issue between snow and I.

So far then, I neither agree nor disagree with your interpretation of Rev 14 because I need to review that and I don't have the time to do that now.

No caday

The question is not about the Jews. I was pointing out those who are in CHRIST. When Jesus walked the earth he gathered. It is both the Jews responcibility as well as the gentiles to put their trust in HIM. That is what God is doing today--caday. THAT is my point. God is gathering his people IN CHRIST. Not just in Israel today but in every nation in the world today. THAT is why I pointed out to you the vision in Rev 14--let me review that for you--Mt Zion (also refers to the church) is there in the triumph of Christ and his kingdom-it is BOTH phisical as well as spiritual.It is as simple as that. I do believe that is what Snowknight was tring to point out to you.

jim

ole caday here is many things but he did not cause the events of 9/11. Insane terrorists who were blind with hate did those things. I disagree with caday--as you can see- about many things but-he is a target for these thugs just as we are because of his claim to believe in Jesus. It is not about the US OR Israel for that matter-It is Ideologacal--they wish to impose their Islamic law on the whole world.Whoever is not in line with their thinking--is a target.

Watchdawg

The discussion you jumped in the middle of was about the Jews and Israel and whether they have the right to kick the Palestinians off. That was made clear by the April 25th note at 8:46AM. And then consult the dialogs from April 26 to May 5th.

As for God gathering his people, that is called the second coming or the Church--see last paragraph. Until that time we are to go out into the world to preach the Gospel. So if you want a point of contention, there it is and then you can act all authoritative again.

Finally, the gathering together is, if I remember correctly, a meaning for the Church. The greek word for church means called out of and the the greek word synagogue would come close to the verb meaning gather together. But for right now, we have no earthly kingdom. Until Christ returns, we are to fight a spiritual war with spiritual weapons and using spiritual armor.

gentlemen

please let us move this discussion to another post. I would like to keep comments here about the post at hand-my Dad's friend Joesf.