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Comment on: "one eighty"

What I Believe.

46 Comments

Amen, Sheila

Each morning I thank God.

Psalm 118:24 This is the day the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it.

Beautifully written

and well expressed.

Res ipsa loquitur. It needs no interpretation or critique from me.

Scottie

Thanks Scottie. I read today in my local paper about the self avowed atheist Richard Dawkins who wrote the book "The God Delusion".

He made this statement about religious belief : "such belief will earn the right to be taken seriously, when it provides the slightest, smallest smigeon of reason for believing in the existence of devine".

He is an evolutionist biologist who holds a chair at Oxford.

My first thought was to write my piece on faith, because Dawkins has faith he doesn't recognize as faith. He has faith that there is no God.

SP

Thanks, Scarlet. That's a great way to start every day!

Thanks Brian

It is interesting to me that many who claim great knowledge, are unable to see the falacy of claiming there is no God, since they cannot prove that God does not exist...

The proof is all around us, in the simplest things of nature, and the beauty of life itself.

One has to take notice when in the ancient book of Isaiah, before man had discovered that the world was round, speaking of God, Isaiah 40:22 says "He sits enthroned above the CIRCLE of the earth"...

Inspired, Sheila

Faith is belief despite the absence of proof.

Well said, Sheila

As you know, I agree. We all have faith in something... And I share the same faith you do.

Dawkins has his heart closed... How many reasons can we give?

Sarge

Thanks.

I always loved the story of doubting Thomas...all the disciples but Thomas were present when Jesus appeard after his resurrection, but Thomas said he wouldn't believe unless he saw the nail marks in the hands of Jesus, and put his fingers where the nails were, and in his side where he was speared by the Roman soldier...

When Jesus appeared again, and Thomas saw him, and the nail marks in his hands, and the spear mark in his side, he said "My Lord and my God"...Jesus said "Because you have seen me you have believed: blessed are those who have not seen, yet have believed"...John 21:24-29

VDaddy

Thanks...yes you have written about your faith, and it has always blessed me.

Dawkins...his faith is in the theory of evolution...a man made theory that requires assumption upon assumption...

Our faith isn't a blind faith in "assumptions", as his is. There is history BC/AD, there are prophecies written thousands of years before Christ's birth which were 100% fulfilled in his life, and the eye witness accounts of his life, death, and resurrection...


VDaddy

I love John's descritption: "In the beggining was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men". John 1:1-4.

John continues very clearly:

"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only who came from the Father, full of grace and truth".John 1:14.

Dawkins has faith that there is no "proof" that would change his faith in atheism.

Sheila said

"We have faith that life originated from a chaotic Big Bang billions of years ago, or we have faith life came from the hand of a creative God."

Some of us believe that those are not mutually exclusive theories. I was taught that creationism and evolution are the same thing by monks at my middle/high school. They asked us a simple question to solve the problem, "What is a DAY to God?" I believe Jesus said something about the differences in time between us and His Father. Evolution is God's plan under His laws of nature proceeding on His timeline.

Swing on by The Swamp. Gotta multi-part post going this week.

They, too, have attacked...

...B.C. and A.D. with trying to implement B.C.E. and A.C.E.


Thanks, Doc

A very good point indeed...

each time we or whomever referres to the date, the point of reference is Christ!

Well said...

...and he who believes nothing will fall for anything.

Incidently...

...I recently read (don't know where) of a Christian who offered to debate an atheist by asking him to bring one person whose life had been dramatically changed for the better by atheism, while offering to bring ten whose life had been changed for the better by Christianity. No takers to date. I wonder why?

Crawfish

Thanks for your comments!

I know there are people of faith who have accepted that evolution is part of the creation process.

I have read a lot of scientific studies from scientists at the Institute for Creation Research who were evolutionists, who came to the conclusion in their research that there isn't enough evidence to support the theory, and became creationists.

The evidence from their research points to a young earth, and man appearing only thousands of years ago, rather than billions, and refuting the connection of man's ascension from slime, and from apes, but as a special creation.

I have looked at both sides of the issue, and I believe the evidence is overwhelming against macro evolution, where a species changes over time into another species. There are variations within species but not changes from one to another...

It's really quite amazing the scientific organizations around the world that are agreeing with these findings...of course you'd never hear about it on the MSM! This would totally contradict their world view!

I have concluded that evolution has too many holes in it to be a credible theory...:)



Jimmy, you are right.

The attempt to change the dates, is an attempt to erase from man's mind the reference point to Christ...a very good point.

The Interface

Isn't that the truth! Well said!

And, The Interface

A challenging idea, to say the least...:)

I am a newbie

to this blog, but I gotta say, absolutely well said!
I often have discussions with an avowed atheist. He actually believes intellectually, as humans grew and learned the rudiments of scientific method it would help to explain the non-existence of God or, the unknown. In the meantime, He thinks we who believe in something "created" religious myths and beliefs to overcome our fears of the unknown.
Uh, not me. Nope, I believe that the Bible really has a purpose and if the scientific method doesn't 'splain miracles, I know why!!
This was a nice read, really. I am all warm and fuzzy.

evolution, if I may

I took Jimmy's advice and read (for the most part) "The Language of God". I don't have a problem with micro-evolution. I still can't see how evolution is random AND selective. Also, in the book, the idea is that this whole universe was started out of nothingness in the 1/5000th fraction of a second where two things collided. I think it was matter and anti-matter. Out of this came gases and metal etc. Okaaaaaay. I think I'll stay dumb and happy with creation theory until there is more evidence to the contrary.

As for how long a day is, I believe somewhere in the bible it says that a thousand years is like a day to God. I'm paraphrasing.

well written

and clear and concise. You have inspired me to write on faith and origins as well, though this post needs no additions.

I think it is God's design

that evolution as a theory has some elements of perceptible truth to it, such as observable natural selection.

Man took what is a definite observable phenomenon and integrated it into a completely unproven (and some would argue disproven) grand theory.

This is often the way God allows things to happen, I think. Because it asks us ultimately: what do you believe? You can see that this theory has some elements of my truth in it, but what are you going to believe? Are you going to believe me? or Others? Even when you can't see Me? What do you choose?

Thank you Nee

That is very kind of you, and thanks so much for visiting!

Atheists say that faith is a mindless act, yet there is so much that confirms the accuracy of Scripture, and relevance to our life, and the world around us.

With each turn of the spade, for instance, archeological digs bring to light a people, or a culture previously thought to be a myth...

And those who think science conflicts with Scripture have missed some exciting data!

Scarlet, I agree

that micro-evolution can occur (change within a species) but macro-evolution (from one species to another) is the challenge, because there should be many examples of that everywhere in nature...but there is order in every species...no crossover species, dug up or living. They are definitely separate.

There have been some attempts to make it look otherwise, but when one looks closer, too many questions arise, and a lot of scientific fraud has occured by those who have an agenda.

If one starts without an agenda, and seriously looks at the laws of science, and the evidence that is there, it is quite interesting...at least I have found it to be!...:)

And Scarlet

I agree that the "day" issue has been debated quite a bit...what is "a day" to God...

In the "days" of Creation in Scripture, theologians argue that the word for "day" which is used to describe the creation process, is the same word used to describe actual days throughout Scripture instead of "periods" of time.

The "day" in Creation is referred to in terms of actual 24 hr days.

Genesis describes that there was "morning and evening" each day, and God "rested" on the 7th...

but I'm sure the debate will continue between scientists who believe the evidence points to a "young" earth, (thousands of years rather than billions)...

Interesting that the appearance of civilization on earth coincides with the Scriptural account.

One cannot accurately "date" strata beyond several "thousand" years, according to many scientists. This would seem to imply that "billions" would be impossible to date with any accuracy at all! Too many "assumptions" that can't be varified scientifically.

Sorry to go so long!





Oh and Scarlet...

Too much to cover!LOL!

I will get the book Jimmy recommended!

I'll have to go dig up (no pun intended) some of my old books on the subject, for a comparison of studies!

Wil

That is quite a compliment, thank you!

I will look forward to reading your future post!

ShinningCity

Interesting! Thanks for your thoughts on the matter (no pun intended)...:)ooops, there I go again...

And Btw,

This is an extremely interesting subject to me!

All of your comments have been really good!

Interesting to me too

Since I teach at a Christian School, I am allowed to delve into this a bit. One of the things we do is that at the end of the chapter on the subject, all of the sophomores in Biology are required to write a paper stating what they have concluded on the Origin of life and how they square their views with a Biblical World View. It makes for fascinating reading. Kids in our school run the gamut, from Theistic Evolution to It doesn't matter what anyone says, I believe the literal Bible account. I doubt very much that "scientists" who show concern about academic freedom would expect to see our kids have such a wide range of views. And unlike the public system, they are expected to articulate them, defend them, and think them through. It makes them in my opinion a lot less willing to whole heartedly swallow the "theories" advanced about global warming, medical issues, and other such things without a healthy dose of skepticism.

Wil

I sure wish we could have schools choice for kids...it's too bad they are taught only one side of the debate...

Sheila

Sorry it took me so long to get here. I've been a little under the weather.

Beautiful article and of course i agree with the entire essay.

Having been brought up Catholic, and I know people probably get sick of me saying that, but I had a great education with discipline, morality, ethics, courtesy, manners, learning God's laws. We, as children, had to attend Mass every morning prior to our classes for 12 years. The nuns put up with nothing, so you got to learn, not fool around, jump on desks, and shoot people up.

We could pray in school whenever we felt like it. In fact before a test if you wanted to say a prayer for God's help it was encouraged.

It's so sad today that God has to be thrown out of everything. And, in doing so, what have we created for ourselves?

Oh, btw, I do have a new article up at my place too. Come by when you get a chance.

Pep

Hope you're better!

Sounds like you had a great childhood experience in Catholic school and were encouraged in your faith.

It is sad that kids today seem to not be encouraged in their faith but discouraged and many times belittled for their faith, in public schools.

I'm heading over to your place!

Pep

The thing that I worry about is the the kids who will wind up putting their faith in the "theory" of evolution without being taught the scientific evidence that refutes it...govnt schools are such a rip off.

Personally,

I don't have enough faith to assert there is no God. I could be right, but then nothing happens. I could be wrong and then eternity could be a real bummer.

And since we all have to believe in something, I believe I'm gonna filtch another chocolate chip cookie from the cooling rack. Don't tell the Missus.

Scottie LOL

God has blessed you with great decision making abilities...:)

Let me know how you liked the cookies.

wil

Btw, what really makes me sick is kids are being fed leftist propaganda in gvt. schools. If they are Republicans they are really given a bad time, and the subject always comes around to bashing the president Cheney, the WOT, etc.

I'm sure you enjoy teaching in a private school where academic standards are so much higher, and no leftist propaganda...

Thank you for...

Every day is another day and when desperation comes, taking our eyes off our weakness and off the evilness of the world and putting them back squarelly in GOD makes everything better.

Not just a newborn

I may have first felt what you describe when I saw my son as a newborn, but I still feel it looking at him three years later. I suppose for many there is something particularly special about a newborn, but, considering all the difficulties my wife and I went through before our son was born (tests showed a high probability of Down's syndrome, which did not materialize, we had several miscarriages before that, etc.) I guess I just continue to see him as something of a miracle.

Actually, ever since I realized what a miracle he is, I see a bit of G-d in every face, regardless how good or bad the person may be. Admittedly, some people make it hard to realize what a miracle each life is, but even looking at the worst of them, I still can't help but see a bit of the divine in them.

And looking at the comments, I think Scottie has read Poincare at some point in his life.

Joe

Thanks for that...it is a relief and an encouragement to focus on God, his love, and his grace towards us...

His presence is our comfort in times of trouble...

I have started a new blog at http://moments.blogtownhall.com

which is more along these lines of thought...stop by sometime!

The link is on my blogroll here...

Andrews

Thanks for your comments..

Your son is truly a miracle...it must have been extremely difficult going through the miscarriages, and all that you and your wife went through...

It sounds like it brought you closer to God and caused you to see people in a new way!

But no religous test

... no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Oops, sorry!!!! Those aren't my words. I'm plaigaurizing(sp?).

What am I plagaurizing(sp?)?

The Constitution of the United States of America.

It's the thing that the President swears on a bible (in Bush's case) to uphold and defend (from enemies foreign and domestic.) He doesn't swear to protect us from death, you chickenhawks. :-)

It's from Article XI, as I recall -

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articl evi.html

Correction

I meant to type VI, not XI. Of course it's from Article 6.

Another curious little amendment (my favorite amendment), is 14. You should really check it out.

"ex eye vee, is how the Romans spelled it" - Tiny Tim (w/Brave Combo): 'Fourteen'

And There I Go Again

ah hem, the 6th amendment, not the 6th article (but I understand that there's something in Article 6 that XIV (the amendment) backs up ...