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The Manchurian Candidate And The Dream Is Always The Same
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 8:40 AM
davecatbone
writes:
I Have A Dream!
You know, they feel the same way about us. But I think the difference is, we're willing to be honest about our core principles and values and the kind of world they create. Liberals won't even admit the source of their philosophy is Communism, nor go as far as to admit it fails every where it's tried. We have no choice but to defeat them.
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 10:36 AM
beltway girl
writes:
okay, dave, i was just reading
your comment, and i headed over to RCP. i read an article there that was so critical of anything or anyone republican that it was shameful. the writer was insulting, ignorant, "unabashedly left..."
you are so right, liberalism springs from flawed ideology. you know, i have lived with the left, and let me tell you, i don't like saying this on 9/11, republicans are one heckuva lot more civilized than liberals. perhaps it is just that i see a "skewed sample" in that everyone around me is liberal, thus, more ignorant people as well an intelligent ones. but i've seen a lot of personal attacks w/democrats, a lot, lot more than i've seen with those of the GOP persuasion, and i'm talking about just everyday living, not with political figures. when i first started voting republican, i still had many dem ideas; they've all (for the most part) been shed over the years, and it's been in part b/c the nastiness i've seen as baggage with the dems. it's like they're not at all comfortable in their own beliefs, so you must believe as they do or they experience some kind of "liberal panic."
as for their deep devotion to obama, he HAS NO EXPERIENCE. ideology hardly even enters into it. and were i a dem, i sure wouldn't be comforted by the selection of someone like biden for veep. what he adds in experience, he loses in pure idiocy.
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 12:27 PM
davecatbone
writes:
The Right
is inhabited overwhelmingly by Christians. And because of that, we're a much happier group of people. This fact is often noticed to the chagrin of the MSM. The Left is a self loathing group of self deniers. Breeds contempt and hatred of others. You can't argue with ignorance, you can only defeat it.
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 1:37 PM
beltway girl
writes:
it's an interesting point
but i don't know if the religious dynamic is really the whole story, you know? i mean, some of the most brilliant and dynamic voices on the right are those of non-christians. if you live in this big, christian/catholic city-- and they're among the worst i've seen anywhere in terms of cutting each other's throats-- it's hard to say it's just the religion as the common thread breeding happiness in a political party. were that the real key, it'd be a big party in many big cities just about every day. sometimes, it eerily seems like the GOP really is the party of the haves, versus the Dems, who view themselves as the have nots. but i think it's more complex. everyone in america is a "have."
but you're absolutely right about the guilt and self-loathing of the left. i don't know where it comes from, but it certainly is a draw for kindred spirits. i am SO, SO VERY tired of the left. and they've really done a limbo in this current election.
i hope they lose, especially this time around. not out of some kind of perverse need for vengeance or hatred, but just b/c it may serve as a wake-up call for the left.
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 1:39 PM
beltway girl
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you know, dave
thinking some more.
i think it's abortion. i think abortion speaks volumes about why the left is as screwed up as it is.
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 2:26 PM
davecatbone
writes:
BG, I believe it's root
is in Humanism. The God of the Left, even when they won't admit it to themselves. To put the Human Intellect above God, it to be able to say, The State shall decide what is best for everyone, because It knows better. Freedom is God given, not Constitutionally given, and nobody can take it away.
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 3:46 PM
beltway girl
writes:
abortion/humanism
i totally agree. but they will counter this by saying that they are the ones who truly submit to God; they will say the question of when life begins has been completely left... up to God (?) ("that's above my paygrade.") i can see why these people like to go around talking about community organizer Jesus and Governor Pontius Pilate.
so they talked to God, and God gave them the green light to let people go either way on this, meaning hey, "it's all good"?
as we all know in life, nothing is this simple. God hasn't come up to me lately and told me that it's now up to any individual walking down the street to decide if what a mother carries in her belly can be hacked to pieces, sucked or scraped out like so much "unwanted" "tissue."
these people haven't "talked to God." they've talked to a few supreme court justices and the mighty pro-abort wing of the left.
they'll answer that there really isn't anyone else to talk to.
hence, one unable to scream for one's self has become a citizen without full rights afforded by our constitution, and we've see this "view" becoming contaious, moving into areas like euthanasia, eugenics, infanticide, stem cell research, cloning, etc.
i agree it is humanism, but it is humanism without humanity. it's a shame margaret sanger isn't around to tell us what she thinks about the casey anthony case.
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 4:13 PM
beltway girl
writes:
not to keep blabbing
but i often find the left darkly humorous.
they seem to have this twisted attitude that by enduring all the evils of the world, sitting back like they're watching a basketball game, they somehow think of God and Christ as something that's going to be back, by popular demand...
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 7:49 PM
Sgt Relic
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Very funny, BG
Who is the doctor supposed to be, Bill Frist? LOL!
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 8:00 PM
davecatbone
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humanism without humanity?
That's a great one BG! And appropriate for the discussion. But if you believe in God, and believe God gave you life, (or any other being born or unborn), than nobody has the right to take that life from you.
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 9:34 PM
beltway girl
writes:
sarge (hysterics)
you know, it was someone along those lines, but... my God, sarge, frist is even better!!
(still laughing)
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Thursday, September, 11, 2008 9:38 PM
beltway girl
writes:
dave/you know, i used
to be so busy defending myself from those ever-compassionate pro-aborchoice folks (the really realistic mother teresas of our times, in their own thinking), that i'm not surprised i actually sound like i know what i'm talking about on this (believe me, much more practice than i wanted!)...
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 11:37 AM
Conservabear
writes:
betltway,
Now what is that Raymond Shaw up too these days
and what about the Red Queen.
Too scary, Me with my Stephen King type mind can visualize this too clearly.
Makes me want to cling to my bible even more
Barak Obama. "is the kindest gentlest man we have ever known"
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 11:50 AM
beltway girl
writes:
uh, uh, i agree bear
that lipstick thing wsa a ways out of line. mr. gentle? i mean, they're always taunting mccain over his temper. but this is acceptable, i guess?
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 11:58 AM
Conservabear
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beltway,
Remember the old dead stinky fish wrapped in paper Obama comment
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 12:02 PM
beltway girl
writes:
right, and some people
shocked at the lipstick, obviously intentional, wondered whether this wasn't a reference to mccain.
i'd say so. if he went far enough w/the lipstick in the first place, i'm sure it was.
that's SO nasty that it really is like a cross between "barnyard" and a schoolyard. this guy isn't exactly conducting himself like a prospective president of the united states...
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 12:04 PM
beltway girl
writes:
and bear, it's not just "mean"
that's biden's forte.
it's SNEAKY mean.
"uh, uh, not the campaigning the american people deserve... swiftboat tactics..."
i hate to sound like Big Bill Clinton, but give... me... a break!
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 12:33 PM
Conservabear
writes:
Beltway,
I have a number of suggestions.
Speaking as a Girly Bear I am quite displeased with Mr. Obama's supposed I only talking about McCain references and I realize we now must be logical.
My departed Italian Grandmother Dado's side used to say, "I'll a fixa". Now is the time to "fixa"
Now is the time for controlled, planned, outrage.
We don't get mad we get even. We have to do what Libs do best and that is confuse people while getting our message across and this time leaving them wondering, HUH, yeah, what did they really mean?
We could use the over-emotional tree-sitting, PETA type hysteria so prevelant in today's culture. I know several really good emotional folks we can use. Water works don't work on me anymore I have been desensatized.
We may need to use the over-inflated over-blown egghead approach. We may need to bombard them with facts and rational thought and make it seem like it is their idea. We have to do a (my good friend)you know who on them. He is good at trying to trap folks, unintentionally, mind you I am not one to accuse heaven forbid, into arguments then going into communist manifesto type chronicles and citing all kinds of PRO-MARXIST, LIBERAL ANTI-conservative anti-republican bullcrap err documentation. We should stand our ground though and not be too emotional and only where it benefits truly us.
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 12:38 PM
beltway girl
writes:
amen! go, bear, go!
i am not giving this guy phony outrage (didn't he say that? phony outrage??)...
maybe it's real outrage, senator. maybe what you said was SO bad people STILL can't believe it.
but i am totally, 100% with you on the outrage strategy, bear. SMART outrage. intelligent discourse, be a decent person, but don't be a patsy. he's incredible, though.
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 5:52 PM
Chad
writes:
abortion speaks volumes
I agree. They constantly try to justify what is unjustifiable and then complain about the death penalty. Liberalism has morphed over the centuries into the perverse cacophony of wonton immorality and excessivism that inherently contradicts everything they claim to champion. Liberal is really a misnomer for them these days - traditionally, liberalism would denote openness and a desire for expansion of ideas and possibilities - not the close-minded "we'll run you into the ground unless you agree with us" mentality of thr Move-Ons and Kos et all. It's like they are devoid of the ability to reason. I try to talk politics with family in Mass. and its always "Democrat, good! Republican Bad - and stupid too." (sigh)
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 6:15 PM
beltway girl
writes:
chad, listen, if they ever say
"republican=stupid," we can always counter with joe biden telling the poor guy at his rally (or whatever it was) IN THE WHEELCHAIR TO "STAND UP"... biden is just... i mean, he's beyond words he is just so... eeechh... do you listen to rush limbaugh? you just gotta hear him playing biden on this. for liberals to call us stupid and have this guy in the veep slot, i mean, come on...
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 10:08 PM
Chad
writes:
beltway girl
I heard that cut on Rush the other day - I almost had to pull over! I laughed so hard I cried. "Stand up! What am I talking about? Everybody, stand up for Chuck!..." Biden seems like a bumbling old uncle or something. They should really just leave him on the bus during the campaign stops. Now, if a Republican told a guy in a wheelchair to stand up, you think Katie Couric might use that as the lead story at 6:30?
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 10:25 PM
beltway girl
writes:
(laughing) (don't get me started)
(i was in hysterics, too)
"stand up, chuck, lemme see ya... oh, God love ya, what am i talkin about? i'll tell ya what, you're makin everybody else stand up, pal... i'll tell you what, stand up for chuck!!"
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 10:51 PM
Sheila
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Why do they still call
themselves the Democrat party...
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Friday, September, 12, 2008 10:57 PM
Sheila
writes:
beltway girl
The Ob/Biden team are like a comedy act for sure...
Every day there's a new comment to chuckle at...
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 2:45 AM
beltway girl
writes:
sheila, they're still the dems
b/c they're the same franchise owners and retained the name.
but these two are such imbeciles that they're short one stooge. there's no way on God's green earth i'd vote for this pair. cripes, biden's out there basically second-guessing obama's choice for veep.
me too, joe, "stand up for chuck!"...
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 6:36 AM
Sgt Relic
writes:
Hello! Is anybody paying attention?
While the electorate occupies itself with lipstick, pigs, fishes, and other critical issues of our day, the congress is back in session and had a busy week.
The passed two bills to name post offices. Two bills to name courthouses. A bill to create congressional clerkships. A bill to allow electronic pay stubs for congressional employees. And a study of two rivers in Vermont....and a partridge in a pear tree.
They very nearly passed a visa expansion to add 550,000 new visas per year as the unemployment rate topped 6%. They will try again next week.
Anybody hear anything about drilling?
We are being triangulated. Palin can take care of herself and if pig is the worst she ever gets called as VP then she'll be doing better than any of her predecessors.
Time to pay attention to the congress and light up the phones. The drilling ban expires on it's own on Oct. 1, but next week congress will move, under the guise of doing something, to keep many of these regulations in place and to dump billions into alternative energies of dubious value.
Call your representative! Tell them to let the ban expire. Tell them to do nothing, they are real good at that.
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 7:06 AM
drpete
writes:
gumballs
beltway girl,
With respect to understanding liberals, conservatives, libertarians, RINOS, and gimmes, I humbly offer my post/piece, called "The lenses . . . (revised).
I know, I know, it's a self-serving plug.
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 8:27 AM
Chad
writes:
Sgt Relic
I think it was my Rep who introduced the bill to study the partidge in a pear tree. The cost of the study will be only $5.1 million for the first three years, that is if the environmentalists don't object to the scientists close proximity to the endangered partridge and peartree and file litigation to stop the study. If that is the case, I am sure that the study will be abandoned - at a cost of about $1.5 million. Bt, at least my Rep will find those unemploye scientists jobs at Fannie and Freddie. To the tune of $? million. Gotta love it!
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 12:53 PM
beltway girl
writes:
laughing...
self-serving plugs always welcome! it's a great post, by the way.
clyde, come on, the partridge in the pear tree deserves our love and respect, and, as good stewards of our planet, i think the partridge should remain wild and free, untampered with by science wonks.
the money would be far better spent on a study of nancy pelosi's brain chemistry. let's lift the exploratory ban on the reasoning behind decisions which have left the congress with a 9% approval rating!
WHAT DO WE WANT?
VERY EXPENSIVE STUDY OF NANCY PELOSI'S BRAIN CHEMISTRY! (earmark)
WHEN DO WE WANT IT?
NOW!!!!!!!
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 1:06 PM
Conservabear
writes:
sarge, beltway,
I went to http://www.GOP.gov
- House Republicans and
asked questions and voiced my opinion. They are addressing the energy bill with one of their own.
called the American Energy bill check it out.
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 3:36 PM
beltway girl
writes:
thanks a bunch, bear
sarge mentioned this in his post. i'll head over and take a look.
also, you gotta see this if you haven't already...
http://abc.go.com/daytime/theview/index
yup. you can just... feel the love.
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 3:39 PM
beltway girl
writes:
sarge, now THAT is
a guaranteed trigger for a torrent of cheerleading on my part. unbelievable. have you seen that yet? the view, mccain interview?
i can see why obama didn't perform well at saddleback. the goal was, of course, to provide for more civilized discourse in american politics...
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 3:40 PM
beltway girl
writes:
and bear, it has the entire
exchange on roe, and this supposed boo-fest going on towards mccain during the discussion is a myth...
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 6:44 PM
beltway girl
writes:
another one
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/13/opinion/13herbert.html?_r =1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
"she's not ready"
but He, Who Must Be Obeyed, is ready?
right?
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 8:02 PM
KevInFl
writes:
beltway girl / Chad
I think Chad's comments sums up Where Liberalism is better than most i've seen. everything you say is true and I think you rally nailed it
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 8:40 PM
beltway girl
writes:
omg, chad, my
apologies on calling you clyde!! that's not the first time i've done that, either.
you know what, i need to get out of here for a while. i'm on here too much. plus, i'm sick of watching this stuff on tv. hmm, maybe tomorrow...
kev, thanks for coming by. i feel like a big ignoramus, and they are good comments. i mentioned them to my mom today. she gets a big kick out of the stuff on the blogs. WARNING: she loves john mccain...
thank you for the chance to correct the mistake. sorry to get in the middle, here...
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Saturday, September, 13, 2008 10:17 PM
Sgt Relic
writes:
Chad, BG, Conbear
Conbear - I expanded somewhat on this information in a post. It could prove to be a trap.
Chad - so that was your guy huh? As you know sunsetting is far more expensive that the program itself. It will probably cost 20 million just for the EPA cleanup.
BG - As a member in good standing in "Y" category I am naturally unable to watch the view but I'll take you word for it. BTW, here is a link to the ultimate pig reference.
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/old_grizzled_third_p arty
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 1:13 AM
beltway girl
writes:
sarge, my God
a demonic jed clampett!
(hysterics)
i dunno, he's not so bad. i like the tax plan.
mccain is going to regret not having taken him on as veep! (JUST KIDDING! i heart our veep!)...
thanks for sharing, sarge! he was incredible. and i'm serious.
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 9:58 AM
Sgt Relic
writes:
BG
I liked his version of the pig comment.
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 3:15 PM
beltway girl
writes:
i didn't find him nearly so repulsive
as charlie gibson.
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 7:21 PM
Sue
writes:
Beltway Girl
I think I have reached my limit on the chanting of "hope", "change", "experience", and "not ready."
Can we please get some new lines? I would greatly appreciate it! :)
Who really is ready? So, you campaign for decades or whenever this campaign/sitcom/drama/soap opera started. But, is anybody really ready? I know that if I won the Presidency and after I was sworn in, I would get to the White House and just run amuck up and down the stairs and of course sliding down the banister. Yes, I would put my selfish self before the American people.
As for experience, can someone please tell me what Biden's experience on foreign policy is and I am being serious. I know he has been on committees, but is there more to it? I am open for all comments, but for now I will continue to look in the bottom of my Cracker Jack box, which by the way has really cheesey prices now!
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 7:22 PM
Sue
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P.S.
I would not be ready on Day 1, maybe Day 13, I'll get back to you. :)
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 7:32 PM
beltway girl
writes:
sue, did charlie gibson
make you sick? could you BELIEVE that are-you-ready thing? like what was she supposed to say? NO??? no, charlie, i know i'm not ready...
let's face it, the fix is on in the press where this woman's concerned. ooooh, i hope this comes back on them w/a vengeance...
i know, the cracker jack prizes are really pretty chintzy now. i think they always were, though. biden, to my knowledge has some pretty extensive foreign policy background. i'm sure he's made a fool of himself all around the globe...
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 9:11 PM
Chad
writes:
Biden's Foreign Policy Experience
He can say, "Everybody stand up for Chuck!" in French, German, Spanish, Dutch and Polish (really). "Que ce que j'ai dis? J'mon fou..."
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 9:21 PM
Sue
writes:
Beltway Girl
What was up with Gibson? He looked like a dufas sitting there with his glasses half way down his face and slumped in that chair.
I agree what was she supposed to say? No, I am in no way shape or form ready. I think I will go knit until I am. That was a lame question.
I am still not buying Biden and his foreign policy experience (or lack there of). Ugh!
I used to get cool prizes in Cracker Jack. Now they are either a tattoo or some lame pop-up thing!
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 9:33 PM
Sue
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Chad
Thank you for that. I forgot about Chuck. And Biden can say it in many different languages. Okay, I feel better now. Good job Obama! :)
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 10:01 PM
beltway girl
writes:
chad, faux pas central!!
i am never, never going to forget... "stand up for chuck!"
never.
and i'm never going to forget rush limbaugh on there saying that next thing, biden would be waving to blind people...
imbecility.
it really is universal!!
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 10:02 PM
beltway girl
writes:
sue
the Narrow Minded Professor...
is in!!
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Sunday, September, 14, 2008 11:59 PM
Sue
writes:
Beltway Girl
After he is done waving, he will probably start to speak louder for deaf people.
He really is a piece of work. I have been out there surfing around and there are people who really love him. Not a lot, but really what has he done? Nothing too exciting.
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Monday, September, 15, 2008 1:38 AM
beltway girl
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well, he has
already been talking way too much to dense people! that's at his rallies.
never seems to stop him, though!
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Monday, September, 15, 2008 7:32 AM
Chad
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waving to blind people
n anothe note, I really had to pull over the day Rush was going off on Obama's brother: "Do you think he has a sign on the wall that says 'hut sweet hut?'" All U can say is that it was a good think I didn't just gulp a mouthful of coffee....
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 12:44 PM
Peppermint2
writes:
beltwaygirl
Great article.
There is no democrat party any longer. It is infested with socialist, communist individuals.
Abortion is abhorrent, but allowing babies to die after a botched one, is simply murder.
These people have got to go or we are going to end up as the Soviet Union of USA.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 12:52 PM
Sue
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Chad
I heard that the one day in the car. My mom was with me! "Hut Sweet Hut." I do not think I laughed so hard in my life.
I know it is terrible that he does live in a hut, but I thought that was a good one.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 1:54 PM
beltway girl
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chad and sue, hut sweet hut
you guys, i admit it, i thought it was hilarious (so did my mom), but it made us feel really, really bad for this george guy. that's... actually kind of heartbreaking. i think limbaugh was right about sending back twenty bucks or something. poor george. (hut warming gift/laughing)
wait, you guys, were you listening to r limbaugh during the primaries, when he used to imitate mccain? one day, he was imitating mccain, going out of his mind over mike huckabee, for about five minutes. i was crying...
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 2:02 PM
beltway girl
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pepp, no joke
they're nuts. you heard about pam's comment re: palin, right? and then, there's damon. and just about the entire news media.
that's the left in a nutshell, and yeah, they have taken over the entire dem party.
they're bullies. they can say or do anything they'd like to you because you're a fascist. but you'd better not do it to them because they're justice, the mother teresas of our times, and "the right side of history."
i can see where the community organizer jesus comment came from, you know? and let me tell you, this is the strangest-looking jesus i've ever seen...
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 9:02 AM
Curtal Friar
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beltway girl
I'm posting this to invite you to a chatroom that's been set up for conservative townhallers to hang out and chat with each other.
If you're interested in checking it out, drop a post at my blog and provide me a throw-away email, and I'll send you the link and instructions.
Have a great day!
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 10:31 AM
skep41
writes:
Hey! That sounds good to me!
"Obama opens the conference by saying pigs wearing lipstick will never fly into the White House, and that the president of Iran will serve in the Obama cabinet."
Sign me up! Oh, he doesn't really think that? Darn.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 1:56 PM
beltway girl
writes:
you can put lipstick on the spot on the
map where iran is, but it'll still be a tiny country that meant you no harm, skep.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 2:06 PM
beltway girl
writes:
skep, you capitalist war-mongering
republican.
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Saturday, September, 20, 2008 3:04 PM
Bobbie
writes:
Great Post Beltway Girl and so right.
Charlie Gibson was out to crucify Sarah Palin and in the process made himself look like the arrogant jerk he is. No matter how you dress up a liberal, their communists roots bleed through. Hannity's interview was civil, informative and dignified as it should have been. Did you catch Alan Colmes sour expression during the breaks? He was having heartburn not getting to attempt cutting her sown.
Great post BWG.Love your stuff.
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Saturday, September, 20, 2008 3:14 PM
Sue
writes:
Beltway Girl
"Hut Sweet Hut"
Too funny. I know it is sad, but still. You know Obama talks about him a few times in his books. Can't he send the guy a few bucks.
By the way, why don't we get this guy to help with the budget. I mean he can live off a $1.00 a month. I would like to know how he does it.
I did not hear Rush during the primaries. I was trapped in the office.
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 3:42 AM
beltway girl
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bobbie, he's something
it's really great to see him go, go, go, all the way with his obvious choice for the white house.
guess he forgot he was a journalist, and supposed to provide unbiased coverage for the rest of us when he was go, go, going.
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Sunday, September, 21, 2008 3:43 AM
beltway girl
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oh, sue, oh, limbaugh
was HILARIOUS during the primaries! he's too stressed out now, i'd say. HILARIOUS during the primaries!
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