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Comment on: Gray Ghost Country

In the "Tank" for Renewable Energy

74 Comments
Monday, September, 15, 2008 10:58 PM Darvin Dowdy writes:

Stinks to High Heaven....

...I'm definitely pro- Drill Now, Drill Here but I think Newt is doing an absolute lousy job selling this issue. No emphasis is being put on the the number of high paying oil field related jobs that available. And what would $700 billion a year, folded back into our own economy do for that economy? DD
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 12:59 AM BrianR writes:

And, of course, the REAL problem is

that "useful idiots" like McCain, Gingrich, Governator Schitzenheader, and others purportedly on the "Right" have bought into this same "climate change" bush-wah.

Hell... I don't blame Peloskyavich for trying to make some bucks. That's the American Way!

I don't even blame her for being a hypocrite. That's the Democrat Way!


But when the brain-dead morons purportedly on OUR side join the Chorus, we're in deep doo-doo.

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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 2:13 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Gray Ghost

Another excellent expose' of the dems villainous plans. DD was right, this whole thing stinks to high heaven.

And to think of all the high paying jobs that would be created.

We need to drill here, drill now. And, now we find out exactly why Pelosi and her cohorts are so against drilling.

That map you posted I read somewhere else about that too, about how much oil we actually have in that shale. And, here we sit with still nothing being done to get the oil. Each day that passes is more money to the terrorists we pay for oil.

My one wish is that we could throw out every last one of these pols in DC. But, I've said that before and people keep voting in these people like Pelosi and Waters.

And GG, I can't wait for your next installment.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 8:23 AM Gray Ghost writes:

DD

That this "stinks to high heaven" is an understatement. Speaker Nancy Pelosi IS TRYING TO CONTROL THE ENERGY INDUSTRY in the USA (and make herself rich at the same time).

I will show more increased estimates for older oil fields in the US (via new USGS examinations) in future articles. The US is sitting on a "ton" of oil, more than in the rest of the world combined.

The Democrats want to control this oil, and all other energy sources.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 8:31 AM Gray Ghost writes:

BrianR

I know you are being sarcastic (Hell... I don't blame Peloskyavich for trying to make some bucks); but this goes way beyond making a few dollars.

I see a definite "conspiracy" to control the entire energy market in the US by the Democrats. They will "dole" it out in a manner that will keep their base (Greenies, PETA, etc.) happy and keep the "peasants" (read you and me) from revolting. All the time, they are making their own fortunes.

And due to the amount of money involved, we are talking fortunes the size of "Bill Gates' fortune" or larger.

And the only time we the people can stop this (without shedding large amounts of blood) will be at the beginning.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 8:36 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Peppermint2

The next installment will be more information concerning the USGS "reviews" of oil contained in US existing oil fields and formations.

Or, perhaps the next installment will be more on the conspiracy I now definitely see in the Democrat Party to control the entire energy market (oil, natural gas, coal, nuclear, wind, solar, etc.) in the US.

The USGS reports show we have more energy (in the form of oil, natural gas, and coal) than perhaps in the whole world put together.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 9:19 AM Redhead writes:

It's good to see you come around...

to this particular Communist conspiracy, anyway.
I've been saying it for years. They create a problem by legislating out any alternative solutions, then they promise to "fix it" through government oversite and/or takeover.
Waters let it slip earlier over the oil industry. But they've been working on it for some time. They are doing the same thing to the health care industry. They already have education (if only they could shut down those d@mn home-schoolers!)
And if a few of them can make a bundle in the meantime, so much the better.

My big question is:
What's next??
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 9:50 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Redhead

I am scared to think, "What's next?"

If the Democrats control the energy market, they control everything (unless somebody comes up with a "cheap" cold fusion technique that anyone can make in their garage).

However, I don't believe that 50 years ago, the Democrats planned this. I believe it "grew" as they got more corrupt.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 10:01 AM Goshawk writes:

Excellent job

on digging this up. I will copy and send all three of your fine articles to all I know.

I have known, from reading various small reports, that this was going on. But did not know to what extent!

I was (am) going to vote for McCain/Palin for the very reasons your articles covers. Talk about abuse of power! Peloski and all envolved should be prosecuted and put in prison! Along with the MSM enablers!

There has been a great deal of talk about political parties, and who stands for what. Well, as an independent, and believe in conservative principles. I have no allegiance to a particular party.

My allegiance is to our country and it's well being. And that is the principle I stand on. Sure, the Republican party has disappointed many of us in not adhering to strict 'conservative principle.' But there is no such thing as a 'Conservative Party.' It is only through the Republican party that conservatives are heard at all.

The Democrat party is completely taken over by Liberal/ Socialist and Communist factions! It is Democrat in name only. The Communist bragged years ago how they would undermine and take over our country. They have succeeded very well as can be seen by all the Liberal/socialist controls placed upon us.

And now, they want to drive the final nail into the coffin. And bury us by electing the Marxist/Communist Obama to the Presidency! Parties be dammed! Even though I have only one vote, I will use it in an effort in trying to keep this take-over from happening!
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 10:22 AM BrianR writes:

Yeah, Ghost


You nailed me.

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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 10:48 AM davecatbone writes:

hooray for the new media

thanks for this Ghost. Now it's got to get carried, and brought to the phone banks at the Capital. I hope this has legs....
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 11:02 AM KevInFl writes:

Gray Ghost

Great expose as usual. Looks like last night Dems put thru another energy bill with no nuclewar, and only 10pct of off shore drilling we need. This calls for another phone marathon!!
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 11:05 AM crossbow writes:

what's next...

Is anyones guess. But with"nanny almighty"doing this and the so called united nations wanting to take our guns away it appears they want a free America to cease to exist. GREAT!!!post GG!! Carry on BRO!!!
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 11:08 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Congress is poised to act...

The question is will they produce yet another no energy, energy bill.

Here is a link to the latest update from AFP about yesterday in congress:

http://www.americansforprosperity.org/index.php?id=6371

There is also another stinkbug in the Pickens scheme. He wants $2500 to $7500 per vehicle, ponied up by the taxpayers, to retro-fit cars for natgas. Further, a requirement for every filling station in the country to have a natural gas nozzle.

I asked my local retailer what it would cost him and he became nearly hysterical.This is corruption at a high level.

I understand why the democrats are silent and the press isn't interested in the current congress' debate but where is the "reformer" ticket's voice on this issue? Nothing on Drudge.

I have to say the silence is deafening, from all quarters.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 1:18 PM davecatbone writes:

I'm thinking

convert all government, FED State and local, vehicles first, (public trans. etc.), see how it works, and THEN we'll talk.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 1:46 PM The Crawfish writes:

Great post

I might have to show it off elsewhere
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 2:33 PM willibeaux writes:

Yo Ghost! Thanks

for the heads-up. This is only a microcosm of what we can expect if Obama wins, the Dems continue to rule the House and they get a filibuster proof Senate.
We need 41 non RINO Rep Senators like we had in 1992 when Slick was elected. They could possibly slow down the march to Marxist/Socialist America until 2010 when we have a chance to throw the Dems out. Wishful thinking? I hope not
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 3:02 PM philosophocon writes:

Well, it's a good thing she's

been draining that swamp of corruption, or else just think of how bad things might be. 'Course if Pelosi owns it, once they start developing it the jobs will be going to more of her servants, I mean, illegal aliens, urrmm undocumented Americans, yeah that's the ticket.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 9:15 PM Gar Swaffar writes:

GG

Living on the LeftCoast nearly all of my adult life, I follow thee "Monkee" mantra, having been a believer in the Leftist Cosnpiracy to subvert the nation some of us have fought and bled for.
They hate the Real America, and want a Soviet-Lite version to control.
Orwellian? uhhh huhhh
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 9:15 PM Chad writes:

dems villainous plans

Surprise, surprise. The most ethical Congress ever is wholly corrupt. What is more infuriating is how this stuff gets buried by the MSM, but we got all the painful live coverage of MLB steroid hearings and now I know all about the needle marks in Roger Clements' right butt cheek. I'm traumatized...
Seriously - all these bums havre to be booted out - if not 2008 then 2010.
Anyone know if that Cindy Sheehan ever got a campaign off the ground - I heard she was going to challenge Pelosi? Nanski will win anyway, acuse somehow the Dems always get the dead vote.
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Tuesday, September, 16, 2008 10:05 PM Goshawk writes:

Ghost

I placed part of your article and a link to your blog on Amanda Carpenters column "Troopergate"
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Wednesday, September, 17, 2008 12:09 AM CKHustler writes:

Ghost

Great find there! Ive heard that a couple times in varies places. You put it together nicely. Im always amazed at how these major gaps are missed by the MSM. Well then again, it is MSM.
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Wednesday, September, 17, 2008 12:21 AM wil writes:

Wow, great research

into the kickbacks driving this clean energy train. I would like to know who those 8 Senators are...I think they should be front and center of a right wing challenge to the compromising center of the party during 2010 primaries.
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Wednesday, September, 17, 2008 12:50 AM Joe writes:

I don't know

What kind of drugs are the so called republican politicians smoking when they agree with the B. S. global warming.

Check out my blog for a list of politicians and how much they got from Freddie and Fannie.

The surprise is who is number two...
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Wednesday, September, 17, 2008 6:09 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Ghost

Well, the American people got done in yesterday Pelosi and company and it looks like she made good her deal with T. Boone. A absolutely terrible energy bill containing, of course, no energy.

Where was the "reform" ticket on this issue all week? Silence. Palin is supposed to be the drilling poster child and capable of whipping McCain into line, right? Could it be that the dog really does wag the tail?

This race is close. The people want drilling. This is about as big a no-brainer as I can see for a political issue. Unless of course McCain wasn't really honest about drilling offshore.
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Wednesday, September, 17, 2008 12:49 PM beltway girl writes:

ghost

great article. it's a real shame the MSM is so busy investigating tanning beds. otherwise, maybe we'd have heard more about this from them.
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Wednesday, September, 17, 2008 5:52 PM str8_talk writes:

Gray Ghost

You KNOW there will be so many provisions on this plan it will be unfeasible to drill. NO drilling in the ANWR, NO drilling Offshore. No drilling in certain areas and they'll bury the states in paperwork from enviros.

She's just trying to make a buck, just like when she took a recess instead of getting a solution. The bottom line for Pa-low-si is less for America, more for HER pocketbook! Anyone who buys into this OR buys her book is a MORON!

READ B/W THE LINES. URGE CONGRESS TO READ THIS BEFORE IT IS PUT INTO ACTION!!
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Wednesday, September, 17, 2008 8:01 PM emjayne writes:

Woweee

FEATURED BLOG!!! And I know you! Am I going to have to get a special password to get in here now?? I went to see the latest blogs and there you were!
The world will be coming to your door!!
Is that for today, do you think? Or will it stay on for a while?
Anyway, congratulations and great post, of course.
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Wednesday, September, 17, 2008 10:18 PM Redhead writes:

GGhost

I've posted my Red-headed step-child moment.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 12:02 AM bob's my uncle writes:

In a related issue

Rush Limbaugh reported on his show today that some certain Democrat US Senators put the nix on a no-bid oil service and production contract to American oil companies by the Iraqi government, by adding a bunch of carbon reduction requirements to the deal. Schumer and Kerry were 2 names. Anyway, this sent the Iraqis running to the ChiComs to make the deal. Can the Dems think of any other ways to screw us?
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 1:27 AM bob's my uncle writes:

Dang earwax

I was wrong about the reason the Dems stuffed the deal with Exxon-Mobil. It was the hydrocarbon sharing law not being passed in Iraq. Link.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/0 00/015/574iglgp.asp
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:32 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Goshawk

"And now, they want to drive the final nail into the coffin. And bury us by electing the Marxist/Communist Obama to the Presidency! Parties be dammed! Even though I have only one vote, I will use it in an effort in trying to keep this take-over from happening!"

I too have only one vote. I am now in the McCain/Palin camp (even though I am not happy about McCain). I see the Democrats in an "offensive" to completely take over the US.

The unfortunate thing about all of this is that we (the citizens of the US) might have to go into open revolt if they win this November 4.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:35 AM Gray Ghost writes:

davecatbone

Red Nancy got the bill passed in the House, even with all of us calling.

Now to the Senate.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:36 AM Gray Ghost writes:

KevInFl

I have been calling my representative (Benny Thompson) to no avail. Benny is a "bought and paid for" Democrat.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:37 AM Gray Ghost writes:

crossbow

What's next?

I am not sure and I am only hoping the Senate holds out until after the election on the energy bill.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:38 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Sgt Relic

The House (No) energy bill is passed. On to the Senate.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:40 AM Gray Ghost writes:

One More Thing Sgt Relic

"I have to say the silence is deafening, from all quarters."

That's because "all" eyes are on the presidential election. This is the perfect time to pass an "illegal" bill. Red Nancy knows this.

If an armed revolution comes about, I would like to be on the jury that sentences her to capital punishment.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:43 AM Gray Ghost writes:

willibeaux

Thanks for stopping by.

Sorry I haven't said so sooner; but I have been up to my "eye balls" in work.

But we also have to work at 2008 and get as many Conservatives into Congress as possible.

(BTW, are you from Louisiana?)
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:45 AM Gray Ghost writes:

philosophocon

This is a "power" play unlike any I have ever seen. If it goes through, expect the Democrats to "own" the US.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:46 AM Gray Ghost writes:

boaz

It is going to get interesting in the US if the Democrats win in November.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:47 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Chad

Timing is everything. They have a president who they (the Democrats and the MSM) made unpopular using such catch phrases as "Bush Lied and Men Died".

Now they go for full control.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:53 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Ckhustler

MSM: Main Stream Morons

But that is not fair. The MSM knows exactly what they are doing. If I can find this (and I am a "country" engineer in a jerkwater part of the country), then you know that the MSM can find it.

There can be only one reason for not printing it; i.e., the MSM is in an "alliance" with the Democrats.)
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:54 AM Gray Ghost writes:

wil

Good question about the eight Republicans in the Senate who votred for the bill. I am not sure; but I will try to find out.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:55 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Joe

I will be over to your site today and look forward to reading your article.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 8:58 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Sgt Relic

"Where was the "reform" ticket on this issue all week? Silence."

This is another one of the reasons I decided to support McCain/Palin. The Libertarian Party and the Conservative Party ARE NOT saying a word about this. I know the MSM will not listen; but the internet and radio is not totally under the control of the MSM.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 9:00 AM Gray Ghost writes:

beltway girl

That is why the MSM is "investigating" tanning beds. It keeps the "real" news in the dark (i.e., RED HERRINGS).
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 9:03 AM Gray Ghost writes:

str8_talk

Pelosi's bill is thru the House. All we can hope for is a delaying tactic in the Senate.

All we can hope for is to "energize" the base and change the numbers in the House.

That and perhaps the "wildcatters" can find enough oil in the existing oil fields to stop this foolishness. Pelosi and her minions can't stop the re-drilling of old fields.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 9:07 AM Gray Ghost writes:

emjayne

"FEATURED BLOG!!! And I know you! Am I going to have to get a special password to get in here now?? I went to see the latest blogs and there you were!"

I don't know about the world coming to my door. I have always wanted to remain the "Ghost" and fly under the radar.

BTW: The secret password is "Evangeline", thanks to Apollyon67. You will see why later.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 9:08 AM Gray Ghost writes:

bob's my uncle

Don't you love it when the Democrats shot the US in the foot?

Now China gets the money. What a bunch of maroons.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 9:20 AM Nee writes:

G

YOu're in the spotlight...Feinstein, Pelosi, Murtha, Reid didn't do anything wrong!!! And, if you believe that...
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 9:43 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Nee

"And, if you believe that... "

You can't sell me the Brooklyn Bridge. I already own it. I bought it in 1973 while living in New York State.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 10:10 AM davecatbone writes:

Ghost, about the E bill

I believe this is a set up to let the House Dems have a record of voting for drilling. Reid never intends to let it pass the Senate, word is they want the moratorium to expire, because they believe Obama will win, THEN they can proceed with their plans unheeded by a veto threat. Insidious is the word.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 12:40 PM Joe writes:

My article in Spanish

Thank you for stoping by my blog Gray Ghost.

I posted that article in Spanish so those who were targeted by Obama's ad running in Colorado, Las Vegas, New Mexico, etc and cannot understand English very well, could have the article analyzed.

The next article I posted presents pretty much the same info, but in English.
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 3:54 PM Goshawk writes:

Ghost,

It just might come to an armed revolution if Ovomit and the Socialists (dims) take full control! The conservative or Republican vote won't mean squat!

I feel the same as you about McCain, but with him we at least have a chance of control by holding McCain's feet to the fire. With Ovomit and the Socialists we'll have none!
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Thursday, September, 18, 2008 7:25 PM ScarletPimpernel writes:

great reporting, GG

good thing someone's watching out. I understand that Biden and Dodd make money from the Insurance industry as well. Gee, hasn't something happened with that industry recently?

Just the other day, I too was saying how I didn't want to believe in conspiracies but it is becoming difficult to ignore the big picture.
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Friday, September, 19, 2008 10:19 PM Keys to the Right writes:

So

It's basically a scheme to line Pelosi's pockets and for the Democrats to take over the oil industry. Figures. And if I hear T. Boone Pickens pitch his idea one more time...
Anyway, screw the fish and the endangered owls, start drilling!
And it's shameless plug time.
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Saturday, September, 20, 2008 3:46 PM bob's my uncle writes:

Hey Ghost

New post on the Backyard Grill. Link to a YouTube about the Econ. Meltdown. You'll ROTFLYAO.
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Saturday, September, 20, 2008 5:25 PM Gar Swaffar writes:

GG

Featured Blog?
Way to GO dude!
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Monday, September, 22, 2008 8:15 PM BrianR writes:

Ghost



New one up at the Island/Orphanage.

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Tuesday, September, 23, 2008 11:05 AM Gray Ghost writes:

davecatbone

"word is they want the moratorium to expire, because they believe Obama will win, THEN they can proceed with their plans unheeded by a veto threat. Insidious is the word."

Worse than insidious, I am also seeing a "movement" to restrict drilling in previously discovered oil fields using new technology. Two old friends (both "wildcatters" who for the last 25 years have been drilling water wells) mentioned to me that the Feds are "ramping" up rules concerning the process of getting more oil out of old fields.

Whether it is a planned "slow down" or just a natural progression of the bureaucracy, I just don't know.
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Tuesday, September, 23, 2008 11:06 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Joe

Thanks for the explanation! I can read and write alittle Spanish; but not enough to be good at it.
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Tuesday, September, 23, 2008 11:30 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Goshawk

Armed rebellion is always a possibility; but who blows the whistle and starts the game?

Unless we have "a straw that broke the camel's back" moment (like a federal confiscation of all handguns), the Liberals/Socialists/Marxists will continue in their game plan of "death by a million cuts".

Therefore, like you, I have decided to vote McCain/Palin. But not because of McCain, but in spite of McCain. Sarah Palin as VP is the best way I can see to work within the system and set up for 2012 and beyond. An O'Vomit presidency is not something I want to endure.

If this means that I "am selling out", so be it.
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Tuesday, September, 23, 2008 11:35 AM Gray Ghost writes:

ScarletPimpernel"

"Just the other day, I too was saying how I didn't want to believe in conspiracies but it is becoming difficult to ignore the big picture."

Have you ever thought about acting like your namesake and "fighting" the system? "A fop by day....."

Like you, I use to think that "conspiracy" nuts were just that, "nuts". I am not so sure anymore.
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Tuesday, September, 23, 2008 11:37 AM Gray Ghost writes:

Keys to the Right

Yes, a plan to line the Democrats' pockets.

I will be by in a little.
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Tuesday, September, 23, 2008 12:19 PM Gray Ghost writes:

boaz

A belated thank you is in order. I have been so busy I haven't been able to "blog" and I keep meeting myself comming and going.
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Tuesday, September, 23, 2008 8:18 PM Gar Swaffar writes:

GG

It works if you say howdy when you pass yourself in the hallway. Keeps everyone nervous enough to give you some elbow room.
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Thursday, September, 25, 2008 2:08 PM Redhead writes:

GGhost

I think I've figured out "What's next" and it affects US!

Noises are being made about electricity generation and transmission. Gore says greenicks should excercise civil disobedience to stop generation plants. Biden says no coal plants. And through additional regulations they are resticting other aspects of the industry (think NESC / NFPA 70E / OSHA). (Disclaimer: NFPA 70E and arc flash is my specialty.) They are slowly going to regulate the industry into a crisis state.

It won't be long before TVA is not the only federal transmission/generation company...
At that point they will, along with oil, control the whole energy sector.
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Thursday, September, 25, 2008 2:56 PM Gray Ghost writes:

Redhead: 35 Years Ago...

I worked for GE. My boss's boss was Jack Welch. Jack said the same thing 35 years ago; he then stareted taking GE out of the Electric Power business. No more substation transformers (Rome, GA and Pittsfield, Mass), no more distribution transformers (Hickory, SC), no more large steam turbines (Schenectady, NY), etc.

You have a point, and a scary one at that.

Even worse, I worked for TVA (Florence and Huntsville, AL). I saw plans for expanding TVA from the Mississippi River to cover the Eastern US.

Bonneville Power was shown on these maps as controlling the Western US.
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Thursday, September, 25, 2008 11:21 PM str8_talk writes:

GG

Shameless plug...new post on my blog re: the Constitution, which I have a copy hung by my front door.
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Friday, September, 26, 2008 5:33 PM MJSJR writes:

Drill Here Drill Now Save Money

It is that simple we can continue to work on other energy programs but in the meantime we should drill as well. We would have a windfarm right now on Cape Cod if it were not for Edward Moore Kennedy and John Forbes Kerry cause it blocked their view. I wonder if the desired placement for the windfarm was say.. South Carolina,

You think their position would be different...

HA HA HA
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Friday, September, 26, 2008 5:34 PM MJSJR writes:

Gray Ghost

Bought some Gray Ghost Gloves, My next post willbe Saturday Night.
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Friday, September, 26, 2008 7:21 PM onceamarine writes:

Grey Ghost, E.E., P.E.

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""I use to laugh at conspiracy theories (the JFK assassination, Bigfoot, etc.), but no more. As The Monkees use to say: "Now I’m a believer." ""

Sometimes the conspiracy theory just has to hit close enough to home for us to recognize it as more than "just a theory".

One man's theory is another man's reality. huh..

Just theories depends on your past and present experience. Thanks for getting on board. There are several more large and important "just theories" out there, and they are trying to eat our lunch and have it to. And further more, they are so far getting their way in almost all cases..

I don't know if you can call it a brave new world or maybe just the same old world, Europe, that we always had just out of sight. A few rich and powerful, and the many without a true voice.. The MSM is just a few more of them doing what they have to do to join the old boys (and girls) club. The commentators you see on your TV screen are just employees carefully screened and trained to follow orders. Their bosses (owners) are the true cuprits who are part of the new owners of humanity..

We are NOT just in danger of losing the constitution, we have already lost it, unless some very determined pig farmers want to take it back.
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Thursday, October, 16, 2008 4:16 PM Redhead writes:

To continue

The earlier discussion;
Did you see this?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081016/ap_on_re_us/pennsylvani a_electricity

Penn is going to require Utilities to cut electricity usage!

I also saw this the other day, which was interesting:
http://www.mikeholt.com/download.php?file=PDF/10_More_Ways_ Final.pdf
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Thursday, October, 16, 2008 9:21 PM Gray Ghost writes:

Redhead

I will email you.
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