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Comment on: Not So Friendly Fire

McCain's LA Speech

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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 6:23 PM anti-socialist writes:

Agree

and there is little over all different 'tween Obama, Clinton, & McCain - all left-wingers who represent "one or another" sub-branch of social-fascism.

True members of the Constitutional Republic of the USA vote for the least imperfect representative but realize it's a waste of time to vote for the "lesser of three evils" which we have now.

(Nations will gradually fall apart after 200 years. It's amazing at how much Constitutionalism has been lost (almost fully collapsed) since WWII which was used to bring us closer to social-fascism.)
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 6:30 PM davecatbone writes:

NATO

Perfect example of bi-partisanship, Democrat style. The other countries look good while the USA carries the water. I wish I could read the headlines that will appear 1 1/2 years from now. Then again........
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 6:55 PM Joe writes:

Has anyone have a Constitution handy?

Is there any way to get McCain toread the Constitution?

He keeps comming with ideas that would surrender our sovereignty to world wide organizations. I love our freedom, we do not need, in my modest opinion, any other organization to safeguard our freedoms. We have the U.S. Military.
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 6:55 PM Sgt Relic writes:

anti-socialist

Like three peas in a pod. I am currently reading Jonah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism". He is attempting to trace the roots of modern liberalism and it's melding of socialism and fascism American style. It speaks to a love affair but not one with the Constitution.
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 6:56 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Dcat

I'm not sure I want to see those headlines either.
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 6:59 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Joe

Better men than us have tried and failed to even remind our leaders that we have a constitution. I'm sure the military will be just fine, that is after the appropriate sensitivity training.
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 7:06 PM Joe writes:

Don't remind me Sarge...

It drives me insane...
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 7:22 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Joe

Look at the bright side. This means a kinder gentler Crawfish. LOL!
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 7:35 PM BrianR writes:

I'mr reading as I'm commenting:

"When I was five years old, a car pulled up in front of our house..."

They actually had cars in those days????

Who knew?

"Yet these same technologies... producing a global industrialization that can in time threaten our planet."

So.... technology's bad. What a Luddite.

Why am I not surprised?

"But we must also lead by attracting others to our cause ... and by creating the new international institutions necessary to advance the peace and freedoms we cherish"

Did his buddy Kerry write this part for him?

"We have to strengthen our global alliances as the core of a new global compact -- a League of Democracies"

More Kerryism, with a dash of Gore. I'm getting a bit ill here.

"We need to listen to the views and respect the collective will of our democratic allies. When we believe international action is necessary, whether military, economic, or diplomatic, we will try to persuade our friends that we are right. But we, in return, must be willing to be persuaded by them."

Yep... add a pinch of Hillary, and a teaspoon of Obama.

"The risks of global warming have no borders. We and the other nations of the world must get serious about substantially reducing greenhouse gas emissions in the coming years or we will hand off a much-diminished world to our grandchildren. We need a successor to the Kyoto Treaty, a cap-and-trade system that delivers the necessary environmental impact in an economically responsible manner."

Now on to the tree-hugging.

ENOUGH!




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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 7:35 PM BrianR writes:

I'mr reading as I'm commenting:

"When I was five years old, a car pulled up in front of our house..."

They actually had cars in those days????

Who knew?

"Yet these same technologies... producing a global industrialization that can in time threaten our planet."

So.... technology's bad. What a Luddite.

Why am I not surprised?

"But we must also lead by attracting others to our cause ... and by creating the new international institutions necessary to advance the peace and freedoms we cherish"

Did his buddy Kerry write this part for him?

"We have to strengthen our global alliances as the core of a new global compact -- a League of Democracies"

More Kerryism, with a dash of Gore. I'm getting a bit ill here.

"We need to listen to the views and respect the collective will of our democratic allies. When we believe international action is necessary, whether military, economic, or diplomatic, we will try to persuade our friends that we are right. But we, in return, must be willing to be persuaded by them."

Yep... add a pinch of Hillary, and a teaspoon of Obama.

"The risks of global warming have no borders. We and the other nations of the world must get serious about substantially reducing greenhouse gas emissions in the coming years or we will hand off a much-diminished world to our grandchildren. We need a successor to the Kyoto Treaty, a cap-and-trade system that delivers the necessary environmental impact in an economically responsible manner."

Now on to the tree-hugging.

ENOUGH!




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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 7:36 PM BrianR writes:

That was less

than halfway through his speech, and it was enough to gag a maggot.


Well, great link, Sarge. When anyone asks why I won't vote for this a-hole, that's a great place to send them.
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 7:41 PM BrianR writes:

Well

That's wierd.

I only hit the "post comment" button once.

I guess the system really liked that comment.

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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 7:54 PM Goshawk writes:

Sarge

McCain, now the Globalist. I wonder if he will put Mexico's security ahead of our own like Bush does.

I couldn't read the entire speech. Was getting ill.
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 8:13 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Brian

Ever the stalwart I made it all the way down to "We do not need all the weapons currently in our arsenal. The United States should lead a global effort at nuclear disarmament consistent with our vital interests and the cause of peace."

Obama may get upset with him borrowing this one. I could finish it either. The guy may not be big on fences but he sure knows something about building a wall between himself and conservatives.
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 8:15 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Goshawk

Not to worry. According to his plan North, Middle and South America will just be one big happy American Union, just like our big brother in Europe.
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 8:18 PM 1maschrom writes:

How friggin' special


We have three democrats (Oh I'm sorry,
PROGRESSIVES) running for POTUS. Now excuse me while I vomit. F%$#ing liberals! (insert barf noises)
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 8:29 PM emjayne writes:

UNREAL

No one , reading that speech, would guess it came from a Republican! Now we have to consult our allies before we make a move. We have to placate the South American tyrants, tear down the boundaries, be one big happy family of the Western Hemisphere.
And Global Warming is a FACT!
As Brian said, I think he had help from the Dems in writing this speech.
How many months do we have left to be sick of the three of them??
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 8:31 PM Sgt Relic writes:

1maschrom

I guess this pretty much rules out McCain moving to the right to bring conservatives on board. Anyone care to venture a guess what kind of VP he wants?
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 8:52 PM clyde writes:

Sgt.Relic

Thanks for that link. I agree with the others,who from the opposition camp helped write this tripe? As to your question,"What is a realistic idealist",the answer is simple. That would be another name for "f@!#$^& socialist. Hope that helps.
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 8:53 PM 1maschrom writes:

Sarge


Joe Lieberman?!
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Thursday, March, 27, 2008 10:42 PM Joe writes:

Not a lot of difference

between our three wanna be Candidates. Of course, liberals like to placate bullys and McCsin has being hanging around them for too long...
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 12:06 AM ShiningCity writes:

I'm still predicting...

he will curse out conservatives before Nov. just like the immigation deal:

"Debate...we don't need a debate....!!! F you."

"Gag a maggot" is a great phrase, too. We should all use it more often. Very descriptive.

Anytime someone says to "insert barf noises," that's also a great post.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 12:55 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Woudln't it be funny

if no one voted in November? The dems completely disillusioned by the infighting and racial tensions surrounding their candidates and us with a rhino.
If no one voted that day I wonder what would happen.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 1:28 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sarge

I think you owe Obama an apology for attemting to equate him with McCain't.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 2:08 AM Purplegimp writes:

Sarge

I think I'm going to be sick. No, wait. I already am! And a gimp too.

And here I was thinking that he was a tad less dishonest than the DemoncRats, and he goes and gives a speech made to order for L.A's crowd of leftists. The part that makes me sick about the whole thing is that he might really believe all this.
Not much chance of his choosing a 'good' VP, is there?
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 2:33 AM Sheila writes:

Politicians can be very

irritating...
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:19 AM Sgt Relic writes:

emjayne

It gets worse. One of them is going to be President.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:26 AM Sgt Relic writes:

clyde, 1maschrom, Joe

Clyde - The are actually contradictory terms. This is worse than compassionate conservative.

1maschrom - Lieberman was my guess too.

Joe - Lay down with democrats get up a moderate. Ha! Ha!
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:35 AM Sgt Relic writes:

SC

I'm not taking that bet. Brian is showing his age being "enough to gag a healthy maggot" was part of the military lexicon....40 years ago! HaHa!
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:36 AM Sgt Relic writes:

SC

I'm not taking that bet. Brian is showing his age being "enough to gag a healthy maggot" was part of the military lexicon....40 years ago! HaHa!

I agree, 1maschrom has a real way with words.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:42 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Pepp

Kind of like the, "what if they gave a war and nobody showed up", T-shirts from the 60's. I'm glad that I don't write on the mainpage. You know one of our senior circuit types is going to try and defend this speech.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:44 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Stan

Obama is going have to get that from McCain. I didn't plagiarize his speech on nuclear disarmament.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:49 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Gimp

Thanks for commenting. It's always helpful to hear the "mechanized divisions" take on things. Strangely, if you've read some of my previous pieces on McCain then you know I'm not surprised.

I have been predicting that he would like to have Lieberman for a while now. The man is his constant companion, in politics that has to mean something.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:53 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Sheila

Over at GOPUSA the anti-McCain rhetoric was beginning to die down. Yesterday the founder called this speech not just not conservative but not republican. I am starting to wonder if he really wants to win.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 8:20 AM 1maschrom writes:

Sarge


McCain needs Joe to save his a*s when he has all those brain farts (go Joe!). Which I suspect are seriously polluting the ozone layer. Hey, maybe HE'S the cause of globull warming?! I'm just sayin........

(FYI this is in reference to McCain's al qaeda in Iran comment)
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 8:48 AM Virginia Daddy writes:

The only substantive differences are

Iraq and abortion, from what I can tell.

He most certainly is no conservative, and I think he's overplaying our reliance on other countries...
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 8:48 AM Scottie writes:

Sgt Relic

I think Brian's point has been well vindicated by now. McCain is just another Democrat Light candidate. It's hard to believe that given the field we started with we wound up with him as our candidate. Frankly, we could have done as well or better throwing a dart at a Montana phone book.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 10:33 AM Nee writes:

er,ah

can't. talk. now. Need. barf. bag. ASAP.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 10:52 AM BrianR writes:

Hahahahahaha!

"Showing my age"? Yeah, the 40 year time frame was about right; I enlisted in 1969.... 39 years.

I liked the shortened version, without the "healthy" part. "Gag a maggot" is more alliterative, concise, and funny.


The T-shirt: "What if they gave an election, and nobody came?" sounds about right.

Or even funnier: all the conservatives voting for the Dem, and the Dems voting for McCain. Who'd win? It's "Live... from Saturday Night! The Special Election Issue!"

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Friday, March, 28, 2008 10:55 AM Sgt Relic writes:

1maschrom, Va Daddy

1maschrom - Lieberman has certainly been close to McCain ever since the primaries began. Now there is talk about Mitt as VP but I wouldn't count on it.

Va Daddy - They are the only two differences I can find. Isn't McCain a recent convert to the Roe vs. Wade was a bad decision position?

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Friday, March, 28, 2008 10:59 AM BrianR writes:

Another interesting observation

I've noticed that NOT ONE SINGLE article or column on this site has mentioned this speech; not one.

They'd like to pretend it never happened, and hope no one notices.

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Friday, March, 28, 2008 11:18 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Scottie

Ha! Ha! The Montana phone directory works for me. This morning on Drudge there was link to a McClatchy article about McCain's excursions on the left.

A point was made in the article concerning McCain’s votes against the Bush tax cuts. McCain says he voted against them because they did not go far enough or were not aimed more at his favored target. In other words, there is a line that John McCain will not cross even for the sake of party unity.

Brian and others here at TH, me included, took a lot of heat for saying Romney was that line in the sand for us. The main page pundits have been steadily pounding conservatives for doing nothing more than what McCain does himself.

Let me say that I was really hoping that my assessment of McCain was wrong but there is nothing in this speech that alters that earlier judgment.

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Friday, March, 28, 2008 11:24 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Nee

Seek emergency medical attention immediately. Try ShiningCity's place. Ha! Ha!
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 11:59 AM BrianR writes:

Res ipsa loquitur, Sarge

It's McCain's own speech on his own website.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 12:36 PM 1maschrom writes:

McCain may campaign


with Romney, but I would fall off my chair if he were to get the VP nod. McCain is a grudge holder, and like a woman in that he NEVER forgets. I suspect he hates Mit, and consequently would be unable to go there.

But I suppose I sould be wrong........NAAWH! (silly wabbit, tricks are for kids!)
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 12:38 PM 1maschrom writes:

OK


That was EAT UP with misspellings! :- (
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 12:50 PM Gray Ghost writes:

Like Everyone Else...

I got sick to my stomach reading McShame's garbage.

However, it does give me more talking points to use whenever the Republican Pary calls asking for money. Maybe the "Honchos" at the RNC will get the not so gentle hint that no conservative is going to vote for McShame. Stranger things have happened than McShame NOT getting the nomination at the convention.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 1:18 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Brian

I'm not giving myself a pass on the age thing since I was certainly familiar with the phrase. Dems voting McCain and repubs voting Hillybama. Hmmmm! I'll leave that one to Rasmussen.

You’re right about the silence being deafening on this subject. I was just out and neither Limbaugh nor Tony Snow went anywhere near it.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 1:25 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Brian, ipso facto

He's a lib.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 1:27 PM Sgt Relic writes:

1maschrom

I think Romney is just there to hand over Utah. JMO
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 1:31 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Ghost

Given their lack of response over the last couple of years the RNC will probably just fire the fundraisers again.

I think it was Rasmussen that has dems breaking to McCain by 20% either way the dems nominate. I am thinking that the McCain camp is reading this as clear sailing without conservatives on board.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 1:37 PM Redhead writes:

Sgt Relic, 1maschrom

I'm thinking of running for the VP slot under McCain. He needs a Southerner to boost his creds!

Even then, I'm not sure who'd I'd vote for...
I can't support anyone who supports the Green agenda, but maybe my Red will counteract it? Red and Green make...what? Brown?

Anyway, I could use the pay raise!
Redhead for VP!
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 1:45 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Red

This is too broken even for a southerner to fix. Green now makes me see Red. I am planning on celebrating "Earth Hour" between 8-PM tomorrow night by turning on all the lights in the house....Bwahahahahah!
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 4:46 PM BrianR writes:

Heh heh heh, Sarge


In nomini Patri et filia sancti, GOP.

Requiem eternum.

Requiesat en pax.


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Friday, March, 28, 2008 4:52 PM BrianR writes:

Actually, I think I

should have written: In nomine Patri et Filia et Spiritu Sancti.

Not being Catholic, I don't know all the dogma.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:03 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Brian

His Holiness usually throws a couple of dominoes in front of that. I've got one left.
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

Beyond that I offer you the Pax Virginicus. Ha!Ha! My personal Latin dictionary is still at college, but he graduates soon. The kids never around when you need him.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 7:37 PM -Kilroy writes:

A League of Democracies

has got to be preferable over, and maybe a good foil to the UN. Maybe some of the New Europe democracies that seem to be a bit more willing to contribute to the fight than are our old Europe "allies".

Ok wishful thinking. Maybe Obama is rubbing off on me and I am just reaching for some hope. I used to think Obama was harmless but now regard him as more dangerous to our country than Hillary. Then there is McCain. Man, this is depressing.

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Friday, March, 28, 2008 8:17 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Kilroy

I think you've got right of it. I don't think anybody is using the old League of Nations charter. No matter how this comes out we are going to be stuck with fighting every inch of the next administration and congress.

Watching these characters is starting to become a full time occupation.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 8:58 PM beltway girl writes:

thanks much for posting this!

i didn't see this anywhere on realclearpolitics in video. maybe they've got it under transcripts. but i missed it, and it looks very interesting. the beginning of the speech is very moving, isn't it? it's going to be really hard to beat THIS democrat in november!
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 9:26 PM The Crawfish writes:

Sarge

fresh meat at The Swamp. Two articles today, but the one I want your comments on is the one comparing Black Liberation Theology with another supposedly religious movement from the past.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 10:37 PM Sgt Relic writes:

beltway girl

Brian pointed to this in an earlier post. I couldn't find it anywhere outside of GOPUSA. On radio today it was Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and Savage and not once did I hear it mentioned.

Hannity even had a dust up between Coulter and Caudel and neither made reference to it. Ann ran down McCain's short comings in detail but somehow managed to over look the speech and that little amnesty thing he did.

Who's left? The MSM? Not likely.
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Friday, March, 28, 2008 10:38 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Crawfish

On my way.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:38 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

> Another interesting observation

Yeah Brian. They're "Machiavellians". They do anything (including leaving out speaches that their base would want to hear.)
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:39 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sarge

Ok, so McCain't (instead of you) owes Obama and apology.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:59 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Re: Sheila

Sarge -
> Over at GOPUSA the anti-McCain rhetoric was beginning to die down. Yesterday the founder called this speech not just not conservative but not republican. I am starting to wonder if he really wants to win.

It is obvious that the "Right-Wing Lying-Type Propaganda Campaign" (tm) has been blinded by it's greed for power. Even so blinded that they lose by standing on their rediculous positions.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 2:04 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

BTW:

I saw a clip today of an Amanda (I think her name is) from TH debating my favorite blog's founder, John Amato. Nothing spectacular really, but Amanda also had some honest obvservations about the Democratic battle. It should be here -

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/28/cls-john-amato-tal ks-about-mccains-free-ride-from-the-media/
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 6:41 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Stan

The MSM has been guilty for decades of avoiding stories, or omitting, or burying, information that doesn't sync with their political position. This is exactly the reason why radio and the Internet have emerged as a force in news.

From your political perspective on the left it may not have been obvious. What Brian and I were voicing was a strong desire not to see the same thing happen in the new media. I have been emailing all of the columnists at TH asking why they haven't addressed this speech. As you know, Townhall is a conservative site and in my opinion should not be giving a pass to liberal ideas even when they come from the republican's leading candidate.

I may not have made myself clear about the GOPUSA comments. The rhetoric I indicated that had died down was anti-McCain commenter's. To his credit the founder's article ignited that storm all over again. It would be unfair to characterize him as being a RNC front man.

Did you read the speech? You might actually find yourself in agreement with McCain on the points that he covers. The press likes McCain as long as he keeps poking us evil conservatives, but have no fear, if you guys ever get settled on a candidate it will be all O or H all the time.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 9:46 AM Peppermint2 writes:

Well

we're all drafting Crawfish on this site for pres. We have no other choice. He just has to quit the military and RUN!
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 11:12 AM BrianR writes:

Stan, Sarge

Stan, Sarge summed it up pretty well. You joked that they're Machiavellian, but actually, that's exactly right. The point I was making is that this site -- purportedly one targeted at conservatives -- and its main columnists -- also purportedly conservatives (an idea I sneer at) -- are in fact trying to ignore a speech that will CLEARLY outrage true conservatives, who are already in revolt.

That speech will throw gasoline on the fire, and I believe they're trying to pretend it never happened.

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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:19 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Pepp

No problem. Any thoughts about where to get 100 million dollars to run the campaign? Maybe we could hold a fudge sale if you this Goshawk is up to it. LOL!
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:25 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Brian

Exactly! BTW, I am not getting a flood of answers to my emails. Curious, No?
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:55 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Pepp

Senior moment! Try inserting "think" for "this" in my last comment to you. Oops!
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 12:55 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Political Correctness Alert!

Google in a show of unity with the Goracle and perhaps Obama has turned it's frontpage black.

This might be a good time to try out a new search engine that should appeal to the generous nature of conservatives and find the information you seek at the same time.

Check out GoodSearch.com here:

http://www.goodsearch.com/
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 1:08 PM BrianR writes:

Sarge

I saw your alert at my place, too.

I've NEVER used Google, because they're a bunch of pony-tailed, earth-shoe-wearing, tree-hugging, hypocritical, ex-hippie a-holes.

I've always been a Yahoo guy, myself.

Thanks for that heads up.

PS. I don't eat Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream, either. My jeans are Wranglers. All for the same reason.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 2:10 PM Buck writes:

Sorry, Sgt

I could only go as far as he wants to close Gitmo. I am sure his next breath would be full of amnesty talk.

I can't vote for this guy.

But I can't vote for Obama or the Clintons, either.

In a way our choices are much like the choices of those folks on the 82nd floor. Only their results was much quicker.

Either way we choose, our country is going to die.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 2:22 PM Buck writes:

Stan

You got it.

Even blind hogs find an acorn once in awhile.

No, McCain does not want to win.

McCain is a democrat mole. He toyed coming in from the cold a few years ago when he considered running with Hanoi JOhn. That ought to tell you something about McCain that he would even consider running with the traitor who gave aid and comfort to the very enemy what was holding him (McCain) in captivity.
That is why it is so easy for McCain to 'reach across the aisle' to seek accord with the democrats. He IS a democrat. That is why it is so easy for McCain to stick it to his 'fellow' party members. He IS a democrat.
That is why he pays only lip service to the conservatives. He WANTS them to stay home in November.

November will be the first American version of the communist One Party System. You have Democrat 'A' or Democrat 'B'.
It is McCain's ordained mission to throw the election into the democrat camp.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 2:34 PM Buck writes:

correction

That is why it is so easy for McCain to stick it to his 'fellow' Republican party members.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 4:56 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Brian

I have been using goodsearch.com for a while now. I belong to the Shriners and the Shriners Hospitals for Children is one of the charities that can be designated.

This was a win win for me since I got to trash political correctness and get the word out about the search engine at the same time.

I'm going to have to show your comment to my wife. She complains that I need to give her a list of all of the goods and services that I won't use because it would support some lefty a**hole. She says it makes it impossible for her to shop. Hmmmm....do you think that's supposed to be a bad thing? HaHa!
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 5:08 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Buck

Don't take it too hard over not finishing the speech, it just got worse from where you left off. I am confident that reading this speech probably qualifies as torture under the McCain Bill.

No good choices, just burn or bounce.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 8:12 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Lights On

!
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 11:30 PM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

MSM and Machiavellianism

Brian, I wasn't joking.

Sarge -
> The MSM has been guilty for decades of avoiding stories, or omitting, or burying, information that doesn't sync with their political position.

DUH!


> This is exactly the reason why radio and the Internet have emerged as a force in news.

Another DUH!


> From your political perspective on the left it may not have been obvious.

ROFLMAO!!!! And actually, I thank the "White Limbaugh" (tm) for pointing it out for me. He said it was biased to the left, so I checked it out and found it actually biased to the right.
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 11:32 PM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Buck

> McCain is a democrat mole.

"United we stand
Divided we fall"
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Saturday, March, 29, 2008 11:34 PM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Just curious

To ya'll turning on light in some kind of weird anti-protest: How much are ya'll's electricity bills?
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 6:33 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Stan

I'm not really sure what you mean by "white limbaugh", you are going to have to explain that one to me so I can laugh too.

As usual you have the cart before the horse. I began to notice the leftward slant of the media in the 60's, a long time before there was a Rush Limbaugh show.

I began to notice that news reports on the Vietnam War told a completely different story about actions which I had personally witnessed. Even more telling was the fact that I was there but the media wasn't. H*ll, we defeated the NVA in such detail in '68 that they couldn't organize a Boy Scout camping trip for a year, and Cronkite was saying we lost. Don't take my word for it read General Giap's book wherein he says that they were ready to sue for peace until the American media came to the rescue.

Sorry Stan, this is not in my imagination. If you see a right bias in the MSM then you are farther out to the left than I had originally thought.

It was me that found Limbaugh not the other way around. As for the "Lights On" protest, that was my little form over substance response to the champions of junk science. Since I didn't ask for help paying my electric bill that one comes under the heading of my business.

Did you ever write that "What Stan believes in" piece I asked you about?
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 11:26 AM Jimmy Carter writes:

Yeah....Right...

....I think I'll just skip on reading that speech.
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 11:52 AM Sgt Relic writes:

JC

Good choice.
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 12:52 PM Pete writes:

Im sure all these issues are just demand

demanding our weak dollar.

But and maybe Ill sound like a nut bar but Im kinda thinking local right now , local as in my own home , family , kids , and my weak dollar.

we have legal price fixing on our milk at 4.00 a gallon and the fact that I think it still comes a from a cow , not digged for miles under the ground and distilled. I find this to be a criminal enterpise. I have two , 2 year twins that drink more milk then anything else so this affects me more then sending Billions to africa.

Im a evil american who drives a SUV so i can drive with my wife and kids in a safe vechile. I pay 3.30 a gallon , Not one scum bag politician has offered in my state at least to lower then 20 or 30 cents per gallon worth of taxes to help the working person out. so at this point im not to concerned with sending my weak dollar to help emerging democracies.

dont get me wrong im all for free trade , im just sick of the fact that we send so much money every where but here. why the hell do we have to prop up everything in the world , the UN ,

Im called a tax payer by the scum bags , not a usa citizen and there being honest as thats all they see me as. God forbid I or my family will ever need help because then Im sure we would be told no help for us

Peter O
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 1:10 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Yeah Pete

I'm surprised he didn't finish this speech by singing John Lennon's "Imagine". In fact, he could have just sung the song and spared me the headache.

Welcome by the way, I don't seem to remember your ever having commented before.
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 1:31 PM Sheila writes:

Sarge...:)

It's the old "move to the middle" for the general election after the Primaries routine...the GOP always seems to think that's the way to win...

I guess we will fingd out, won't we?
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 1:32 PM Peppermint2 writes:

Sgt. Relic

New post at the farm from Goshawk.
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 1:33 PM Sheila writes:

Ooops...sorry about the typo...

"find" out is more like it...
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 1:40 PM skep41 writes:

You Should All Be Ashamed!

Amerikkka's genocidal rage will need input from fellow democracies like Iceland and Turkey to help us the stop killing poverty-stricken babies in the name of Big Oil Profits. Wasnt it the freely-elected president of Zimbabwe who led such a successful urban renewal program that his country's population went from 13 million to 7 million in just five years? We can learn from our fellow democracies if you imperialists abandon your arrogant jingoistic militarism and renounce the blood-soaked corporate clique that makes billions from 'preemptive war'.

I love McCain speeches, they make me feel so AMERICAN!
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 6:30 PM wil writes:

I wonder if

McCain in his POW camp knew what McCain 40 years later would be calling for (voluntarily ceding sovereignty and freedom that he suffered for) I also wonder if McCain then would even consider voting for the modern McCain. If the alternatives were not so much worse...wow, what a sad situation to find ourselves in.
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 7:16 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Sheila

I wish that I could find the article I read several months ago concerning the strategy of "move to the middle". I just couldn't come up with the author but I know that I cited it a number of times here and elsewhere.

The crux of the article was, that unlike previous candidates, McCain started out by securing the middle of the road. The article questioned whether he would be able to move to the right to incorporate what is usually considered the base of the party.

I was suggesting in my comments at that time that it was my opinion that McCain had not intention of moving to the right and I really haven't seen anything on his part to change my mind about that earlier judgment. I believed then, and still do, that his strategy is to to move even more to the left, perhaps aided by a Lieberman VP nomination, to pick off the 20% of disaffected democrats that the democrat's final selection will produce.

In my honest opinion, he is running the perfect democratic campaign. The only difference is that where democrats usually lose on their national defense stances McCain substitutes a strong defense posture.

McCain might actually win on this strategy, without conservative support, but if he implements half of the items he spoke of in this speech we will probably look back with great fondness on mere earmarks as a source of fiscal irresponsibility.
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 7:18 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Pepp, Sheila

Pepp, on my way over.

Sheila, no apologies necessary to the typo king. Ha Ha!
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 7:34 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Skep

I am duly chastised and repentant of my lack of understanding. How could I have been so arrogant as to over look America's only source of Bjork tunes, Iceland. I had completely forgotten the contributions of Democratic Kampuchea under the enlightened leadership of Pol Pot. His version of Hillary care reduced the hungry and sick of his country from 1.7 million to zero.

I intend to begin tomorrow converting my Town Car to sails. You wouldn't know where I can get a deal on a 40 foot mizzen boon would you? LOL!
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 7:42 PM Sgt Relic writes:

Wil

Here is something to consider about the current race. Hillary and Obama are solid "finger in the wind" politicians. The are poll driven creatures to the marrow. Not even John McCain's friends believe that he can be budged by mere public opinion.

The question I am asking myself is which of these candidates will be the easiest to sway once they are president. So far the answer never comes up McCain. Something to ponder, No?
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 10:06 PM beltway girl writes:

that was a darned good speech

seriously, i cannot usually sit through a whole mccain speech, but that looked like it was pretty darned good! i wrote a whole column on that speech i found it to be so good, seriously. thanks again for the transcript, i'm sure the fact that it was completely unavailable elsewhere has nothing to do with any kind of left-wing bias on the part of the mainstream media, and that's a real relief... i mean, i don't want to have second thoughts about the most trusted name in news...
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Sunday, March, 30, 2008 10:11 PM Buzz writes:

McCain's never made a speech...

...that was anything other than Repulsican party line hucksterism. He's a trained barking seal and a professional party line hack. Write in Colin Powell for President.
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 2:58 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Sarge

> I'm not really sure what you mean by "white limbaugh",

Rush Limbaugh. He's a drug addict.
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 3:00 AM Stan @ tbsn.thesequencers.us writes:

Pete

But they certainly helped some to buy those waste of resources. Bush (and his Republican'ts) have some kind of tax incentive that they installed to buy gas guzzlers.
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 4:17 AM anti-socialist writes:

Speeking of drug addicts,

differnce 'tween Limbaugh & Kennedy are

a) Limbaugh killed no one while using his medication &

b) Limbauch broke the addiction to the medication.

On the other hand,

a) Kennedy killing a woman while using his drugs &

b) Kennedy remains an adicted user.

In short, the Democrat can never be trusted.

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Monday, March, 31, 2008 5:29 AM Sgt Relic writes:

beltway girl

Your welcome, I think? Did we read the same speech? Which part did you like the best? Was it about making the U.S. subordinate to the U.N. or the part about destroying the U.S. economy trying to fix a natural phenomenon?
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 5:33 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Buzz

With the exception of his position on the WoT, the rest of the speech could have been written by the DNC. I think Teddy helped him with this one.
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 5:47 AM Sgt Relic writes:

Thanks Stan

Now I get it. I'm not really familiar with the rules of the Church of Liberal Secularism, but isn't going to rehab the equivalent of going to confession, or should I start referring to Patrick Kennedy as the white Kennedy?
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 5:55 AM Sgt Relic writes:

anti-socialist

Wrong Kennedy. As I just pointed out to Stan it was Patrick not Teddy who went to rehab for addiction to prescription pain killers, but being only a congressman wasn't up to the task of killing anyone when he wrecked his car.

Teddy's body of work in this area is without peer and it is unfair to hold others to this high standard. LOL!
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 8:19 AM anti-socialist writes:

Sgt Relic

Apologies for not including 'TED' (with Kennedy). The accident in which Mary Joe Kopechne was left to drown which "fats" swam to safety so he could retreated to his hotel to call lawyers and associates and escape from any penalties. At least it kept the nazi pig out of the presidency.
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 12:41 PM Sgt Relic writes:

anti-socialist

And for that we can be truly grateful!
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 5:24 PM beltway girl writes:

mccain may be a democrat

but at least he's our democrat.
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 5:35 PM beltway girl writes:

in defense of mccain

oh, come on, he's miles ahead of the other two. i think it's wonderful we might have an actual war hero in office! it would be great for the country. (yes, i listen to rush limbaugh, and i love it when he imitates "the maverick")... the chief silverbird factor is a concern, but what are our options, here? everyone will be singing a whole different tune if the dems shock with an algore nomination at the convention (being discussed in time mag and uk telegraph.) right now, let's all just be thankful for a possible release from hillbama/clintonama/hobama/hillbillama/
bamaclinton heights... it could be much, much, MUCH worse.
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 6:46 PM Sgt Relic writes:

beltway girl

I am glad that you are happy with the McCain candidacy. As a veteran of the same conflict I certainly don't find fault with McCain's military service. However, we are not electing a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs but a Chief Executive.

It is interesting that McCain's "maverick" style is pointed to as a positive making him his own man, yet when I do the same thing I am accused of being disloyal to the party.
I am now and have always been a conservative voter who voted for republican candidates of similar disposition.

When republican candidates cease to represent those values they cease to be viable to me as candidates. A draft Gore scenario is not going to help democrats because democrat voters are tied to their candidates, not on the issues, but by race and gender. Gore can't provide the unity since he is neither black nor female.

It is a long way to November, anything can happen but in the end I will vote as I have since 1968, according to my conscience.
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Monday, March, 31, 2008 8:16 PM beltway girl writes:

Hey, I totally agree on the "maverick"

thing. it's a problem. i mean, it's a real problem. the chief silverbird thing is a real problem. i'm just saying i found nothing exciting at all about the mccain campaign at first, but i am thankful we may escape hillbamania. between rev. wright and the fake sniper fire, you just don't know what's coming next. yipes!! i'm going to start reading more on your blog. i don't know much about mccain. all the lies, deceit, scandal, and generally interesting theater with the democrats has held my attention. but compared to these other two, i am very glad mccain is there. actually, i really liked huckabee. did anyone else on here like huckabee?
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Tuesday, April, 01, 2008 12:10 AM beltway girl writes:

and i think it's really awful that...

anyone would accuse you of being "disloyal" to your own party over something like this. you know, i'm getting a little worried here about the comparisons to... light bulb john kerry. (and he never lit.) oh, by the way, for anyone who is interested, there's a piece at realclearpolitics on how the hillbill has completely imploded in grand fashion (stanley crouch, good article)... bye for now, and i'm sorry to be such a blogmouth!
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Tuesday, April, 01, 2008 12:41 AM beltway girl writes:

look, there's no way...

he could be as bad as kerry. i will actually go out there and do an analysis of mccain to kerry on foreign policy, no joke. please, not even in my wildest nightmares...
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Tuesday, April, 01, 2008 6:23 AM Sgt Relic writes:

beltway girl

Please feel free to comment at length any time the subject seems to demand it. Personally I went through a series of candidates beginning with Duncan Hunter, followed by Tom Tancredo, and finally worked to get Fred Thompson into the race, when the first two didn't gain any traction.

When Thompson left the race I unenthusiastically supported Mitt Romney but even he withdrew before the Virginia Primary. That was the end of the line for me since Romney WAS my "hold your nose" candidate. If you get a chance, you could read my post titled "McCain Says Get in Line" if you would like to get a better understanding of where I stand on the McCain candidacy.

Please keep in mind that I wrote that long before he gave the L.A. speech which to me was rhetorical gasoline. His foreign policy is beginning to look very similar to John "I served in Vietnam" Kerry's policy which called for the U.S. to be guided by the U.N and world opinion.

Kerry couldn't have gotten my vote under any circumstances since we fought on different sides in the Vietnam War. That was just me carrying a forty year grudge.

The Crouch piece gets it right on Clinton Inc., and I agree that the democrats have certainly been providing great theater in this cycle. Watching them tear at each other apart holds the same fascination for us "Y" types as watching somebody dig a hole with a backhoe. Simply captivating!

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Tuesday, April, 01, 2008 1:31 PM beltway girl writes:

you know, i liked thompson, too

i liked thompson and huckabee. was very enthused about huckabee and incredibly disappointed to see things unravelling in the fashion they did. (didn't care much for romney, but knew the fiscally conservative wing of the party would be up in arms over his rejection)... i know mccain is a moderate (the global warming, immigration, etc), but i must admit, i did not know that this extended into foreign policy. i only now just went to his website. he does seem to have a very aggressive strategy regarding iraq, however, i know what you're saying, this does NOT preclude kerry-like comparisons, depending on the framework of his broader worldview. i'll definitely check out that blog entry today. i must admit, hearing that he is also disappointing in THIS area comes as a shock after hearing him painted as the 100-year, essentially watered-down, hysterical, war-mongering maniac by the democrats (krauthammer, i THINK, had an article on this called the 100-year-lie). but in light of the sniper fire, hillbama is hardly a reliable conduit of information...
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Tuesday, April, 01, 2008 5:36 PM Sgt Relic writes:

beltway girl

I caught a bit of the Limbaugh show today when he was speaking about a new exit poll of primary voters. The poll found that only about 35% of those that voted for McCain knew his actual position on amnesty. BTW, he's still for it.

Sometimes you can't even tell when they are being disingenuous. For example, McCain now says "I get it" on the fence bill. It sounds like he actually would build the fence, right? Wrong. According to NumbersUSA.com there is a sunset provision in the bill that will effectively shut the project down in December. McCain isn't lying, but he knows he wouldn't take office until January when it will no longer be his responsibility to build the fence. Unless you believe he doesn't know it's there, in which case he's not smart enough to be president.

This kind of ploy sends me scrambling back to check the previous legislation on such things as the various war bills to see if there is some kind of escape clause on his position on the WoT.

Don't you just love "straight talk"? Ha! Ha!
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Wednesday, April, 02, 2008 10:01 AM Georgetwin writes:

Sgt Relic

My absence is explained in New Posting!
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