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Comment on: Duty Is Ours...Results Are God's

Thought Crime

14 Comments

Umm

I had a thought crime once. But you can't prove it!!!

Late night stop by...nice to see someone else is up...sunny

Orwellian society

is upon us. Our founding fathers would be appalled.

Exactly

Hate is a motive. Motive is part of the element of the offense. Why is one motive more heinous than another: if someone aces me to take my wallet am I less dead than if someone aces me b/c they don't like the way I look?

Well Done PJ

The state is now Carnak the Magnificent, able to read minds and see the deepest recesses of our hearts. I agree with you, it's the action that is punishable, not the feeling behind it. Just another leftist doctrine to divide and conquer.

That's only half of the story...

...reading your work brought forth the other half I have not seen/heard mentioned...."Thought Excuse."

In court, defendents are now routinely questioned as to what they were thinking, if they were "thinking" at all, when committing a crime. Andria Yates just to name one, Menedez brothers too, and the list goes on now that I think about it. Seeing how "something (drugs, pressure, depression, retardation.....)" other than themselves were doing the "thinking" they, therefore, should not be accountable for what their body did.

So, what is the result of both of our conclusions? The guilty are innocent and the innocent are guilty.

By the way, it should be crime to "think" about Sunny.

Sunny

Thanks for stopping by. Yes, I find late at night is a usual for me. See ya 'round and watch those thoughts....Big Brother could be watching you.

mgraves

Couldn't agree more. Thanks for the comment.

Scottie

Hey Scottie! Glad to hear from you. We may have to speak up about this doctrine soon. The leftist wackos on Capitol Hill are introducing more Hate Crime Legislation as I type. It never ends.

Jimmy

Jimmy! Excellent addition to my thought process and very true. I think the Ministry of Truth has done an excellent job of changing how the public thinks about examples such as you gave. The perpetrators are the victims. "IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!"

Nicely done

Sorry I haven't been over to see this until now. You really did a fine job laying out the arguments. Here's a true story...

A friend of mine is a prosecuting attorney. Her mother and uncle are gay. She and I got into an argument about hate crimes and after an exasperating 15 minutes or so I asked: If your uncle or mom and I were seperately murdered, are you telling me their killings were worse than mine? She stopped and said she had never thought of it in those terms. Her view was 100% emotional.

Scatbug

Wow. That is a great testimony to how the left really does operate on so many social issues. A good example of that would be Bill Clinton, who relied heavily on the publics emotions when trying to pass several abortion related laws. He never focused on the facts or the morals of the issue, just on human drama. You're right, they think with their emotions not with their brains.

jayhawker

Wanna hear the odd thing about that story? She's a conservative, especially when it comes to crime. But I think in this case (and with gay marriage) her emotional ties to the issue through her family trumped reason, logic, etc. Plus, she had never heard any opposing arguments, only misrepresentations of them.

Hate crime

Seems to me you don't murder someone if you like them or at best don't feel one way or the other about them. You murder because you hate them or they stand in the way of you getting something.

Hey, wouldn't forceing the removel of a cross be a hate crime?

I shouldn't be required to like anyone

nor should any crime against anyone else go unpunished. The proper place for the hate crime concept to apply is in the sentencing phase as an aggravating factor, not as a crime onto itself.

The victim is no less injured, nor the crime more acceptable in the absence of "hate", but the concept probably has a place in the mitigating/aggravating factors concept during the consideration of sentence for a party already determined to be guilty of the original crime.

Like all laws it should be applied consistently. Question, has any minority EVER been charged under any hate crime law?