Romney, Kennedy, and "Faith in America"

The reason JFK had to give that speech in 1960 is because the Catholic Church's official doctrine is that it is superior to the civil government (specifically, that the civil power "wields the sword at the behest of the priest").

The questions for Kennedy did not arise out of "intolerance" but out of knowledge. Fortunately, Kennedy denounced the "infallible" doctrine and it became a non-issue.

Just because American today (Catholic and non-Catholic) are ignorant of Church dogma we fail to see Kennedy's speech in the right context.

You might want to see what Pius XII had to say to Spain only a few years before the election of 1960 concerning the state's duty to the church (and cross reference Pius IX's "Syllabus of Errors" which teaches that the state should adopt Catholicism as the only approved form of worship, etc.).

Also see Gregory's Marari Vos and Leo's comments on Vatican 1.

Since Mitt believed that he is on his way to becoming a god ruling his own planet, I think a few questions are in order.

People want to know how a candidate's core beliefs and will and will not influence their leadership:
http://walrus.townhall.com/g/da1ca21a-74a6-4b95-954c-a55257 c544f9

What makes many moderate conservatives nervous is the whole idea of linking conservative political thought and action to any religious belief including Christianity

History has shown that whenever politicians in this country conflate the 2, the results aren't good. Every national poll has shown the majority of Americans are more concerned with economic and political issues than religious, and we can predict this trend will increase as Americans become more and more secular.

I believe that Romney, and all other national politicians striving to be leaders, bear in mind the importance of separation of church and state in this country, and that no one religion including Christianity should be part of their message.

This reliance on one's religion for political purposes is actually an egregious example of right wing "political" (?religious) correctness of the same kind the left is regularly chastised for. And although a Christian myself, I strongly believe that we're all better off sticking to the real issues, and not hiding behind our religious beliefs which are best kept to oneself. They shouldn't be a criterion either for or against voting for anyone, and I and many of my friends have resolved not to support any candidate who doesn't seem to understand the importance of Church-state separation!

their being and guides their steps. No wonder the Founders wanted the two arenas (church and state) legally separated.

If citizens vote against Romney or Huckabee, on account of their respective faiths, the two arenas still remain legally separated; and these voters remain in sound ethical, political, and religious standing.

I am a Baptist like Huckabee. If a Mormon voted against him because of his faith, I consider that his prerogative and right and I harbor no ill will against him. I will not stoop so low at to label him a hater or bigot either.

On the other hand, there are men whose faith does not inform them, for example: Bill Clinton who waved his bible in the air before cameras on the day he was to rendezvous with his mistress. It is reasonable and responsible to explore the underlying beliefs of public servants. Because this is NOT about how presidents might disregard those beliefs (like Clinton), but abut how their devotion might affect us while they are in office.

Everyone should know what the canon of Mormonism originally taught about black people and how it was divinely inspired but had to be corrected in 1978. This information should be at everyone’s fingertips. As for Baptists, every American should know what they believe about the interface of faith and the state.

It is unlikely that Mormon politicians will force their beliefs on others. That is a straw man argument used by the fearful to intimidate questioners and divert attention away from the essential public exploration of Mormon theology.

Please, I beg of you: fully explore, investigate, elucidate, dig-through, uncover, explain, detail, analyze, question, contend, debate, discover, quantify, categorize, search-through, attack, dissect, lay-bare, pick-apart, inspect, measure, and weigh the foundations of my faith. Huckabee's faith.

Neither of us fears it. We relish it.

And the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.

Jesus only promised that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Catholic Faith, founded on Peter the first pope. So, it is conceivable that the baptist will be defeated by the gates of hell.

For the record!


(not that I am counting on this unfortunate event)

LOL!

Obvioulsy we disagree.

At least you don't believe Satan and Christ were brothers. That's one thing you got right!

:)

Here's a good video on the search for ANY historical support for the book of mormon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1mFdO1wB08&feature=related


Dark Matter.

What do you disagree with me about?

Mormonism is a lie, but at least Mitt doesn't worship at the altar of liberalism.