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Al Franken Denies Lieberman Extra Minute To Speak -- McCain Fires Back

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Interesting exchange between Franken and Lieberman. McCain states that in his 20-plus years as senator, he's never seen time denied before. Think this is political revenge for Lieberman's opposition to Obamacare? You betcha!

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The Plumber Wrote: Dec 21, 2009 8:39 AM

"Then why are you trying to argue about it with me?"

YOU interjected yourself into our exchange by challenging me on Sunday, December, 20, 2009 11:29 AM.

Please try and keep up. I hear that fish oil and gingsing are good for short-term memory. You should give them a try, loser.

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albert henry Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 4:16 PM

Every try to do a start up of a company, without capitol? I have done it.

The leave it to beaver dream land your living in had its draw backs.

Lets take GM and you and mike moore think the shareholders, managaement, and bankers raped the unions right? We'll forget about Nader, congress, and Japan's unfair marketing practices towards the u.s. for now. and just from recent history from 1982 to date, and for the sake of argument, lets say the ave employee at Gm is vested at the rate of .50 per hour in his retiremnt account. for the sake ao argumnent, lets say there is 50,000 GM workers. if the union thugs had bought stock in GM they would have over a 20 billion dollar stake in the company. Part of the decline of the...

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Ronna7 Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 3:52 PM

has all this time to spend typing out idiotic, bullshiit posts defending the vile, communist left loons because he is a lazy, good-for-nothing slob who lies around the house all day stuffing his mouth with food he bought with his welfare check from...you
guessed it - the good old government. See it's real easy to defend an organization that will pay you those types of dividends for voting for them so they can remain in office and continue to gain power and wealth off the idiots like Axehole of the Un-united States. Sad pathetic little Axehole; he has no life outside Townhall; he has no understanding of the ill he supports in the party of the leftist, treasonous ba$-tards who want to take his freedoms right along with the rest of us....

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Careful with that axe, Eugene Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 3:39 PM

What other system should be implemented? What other system is there, except for one that allows for lord's and serf's. No other system will do.

Me- How about one where workers are FAIRLY compensated for their work.

And we HAD that, back in the 1950's, when the workforce was unionized and had high pay scales and workers had rights.

Now most of that money goes to financers and shareholders, who were a very small part of the picture (and really add little value).

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The Plumber Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 3:15 PM

There's the problem with taking things out of context: it limits one's ability to read things in their entirety. In your case, it has limited your ability to read at all.

Start with my 10:24 am comment to see the first reference to Federalist 12. Axe and I were discussing capitalism, not healthcare directly.

I gave you Federalist 84 to prove that the socialization of industry is not conferred upon govt via the Constitution.

Stop hitting yourself, Bob.

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The Plumber Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 2:04 PM

The nature of man doesn't change. The nature of government doesn't change. It is now as it has been since the creation of civilization.

Liberty v. Tyranny. Zero-sum game. Less govt = more liberty.

Statist.

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The Plumber Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:58 PM

"i cannot show you that the Founders were commie rats. you think either the framers were as you say they were or a bunch of commie rats?"

I say they are who they say they are. Shall I quote them some more? Maybe I should re-quote,

"[A bill of rights] would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is NO POWER TO DO? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when NO POWER IS GIVEN BY WHICH RESTRICTIONS MAY BE IMPOSED?"

Twelve-dollar words don't make you any less an idiot, or in the words of Hamilton: a usurper.

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The Plumber Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:49 PM

I provided evidence in Federalist #12.

"The prosperity of commerce is now perceived and acknowledged by all enlightened statesmen..."

"perceived and acknowledged" = "It's a given"

You're embarrassing yourself again, dumb-dumb.

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albert henry Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:48 PM

enlightenment,
if God is light, then from his word, not man
Rational thought, derived from understanding, the order of God, the symetry of God, the precison of God.

neither rational thought or enlightenment may be derived from experimental understanding of man's surroundings, or the world as one sees it. To see the stars, and not see the glory of God, is but one of mans many short falls, as his study with improved methods of observations have only clouded the perception of the beauty of the Most High. To read history, and ignore the admonitions, of failed nations, failed philosphy's, and even Israels failures is to ignore the great one and first cause of any free people, and that is God first. There is nothing rational...

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clarityseeker2 Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:40 PM

Well, at least he's finally admitted to his immaturity.

Boob-the-Fluncky scribbles,

"That's right. If it was an acceptable argument for The Plumber at 10:24 AM, then it should work for me too."

That is the Liberal manifestation of, "Nya-na-na-na-na". Or, "I know you are, but what am I?"
Yep, there's nothing different here from booB's usual style----other than----his willingness to admit to his childishness.

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Ronna7 Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:36 PM

I would deny Al Franken ANY water, air, food, shelter, medical attention, etc., etc., etc., and see how long he could last. S E R I O U S L Y!!

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clarityseeker2 Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:33 PM

Never mind------there is no rehabilitation of Liberalism.
It's ideology is so fundamentally flawed----so stuck-on-stupid, it cannot be reversed, reeducated, readjusted.
The present administration is no better example of this.
This present democratic-controlled Congress is no better proof of this.

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albert henry Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:18 PM

One more point

As to the ungoverning the republicans have become, then pray tell, why is it, your side is involved in utter secrecy, still haven't produced a bill to read. have cut 40 members of the senate out of this most important debate, behind closed doors threatened, bought, and held rensom those who would bring forth an opposing idea. This is corrupt, fraught with deceit at the highest level. Debasement of this magnitude is soemthing to behold. Its something, not constitutional.

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Patriotic Liberal Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:13 PM

lesson is over for now. Christmas time is nigh and i have family things to do.

step 1 for the rehabilitation of conservatism in America is realize that you don't have all the answers. you don't even have all the fundamental answers. and you can Mexican hat-dance your way around your responsibility for the dire condition our country finds itself in, but until you play the man and take ownership, conservatism itself will be a disgraced and shabby piece of business. which is what it is now.

gotta run. ciao, y'all. have a happy Christmas and a merry holiday, if i cannot circle back before the 25th..

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albert henry Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:09 PM

As to the question of the Creator, sir:

Did the framers means that God had endowed us with the inlienable rights?

Did the framers, nail the point. Did they hammer it home. Was it not laid out plnk by plank? Are not the cuts precise? is not the blue print plain?

Why then these many years later do you embark on the journey to futility?

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Patriotic Liberal Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 1:06 PM

there is no dialoging with guys like you. You are a betrayal of this nation's Enlightenment, rationalist heritage. I respect your religionism on a personal level, but as a political or civic understanding, it is imperious and even ridiculous.

I share your regard for Nathan Hale and the men of the Alamo, but your worldview is childish. the only truth is your self-insistence. you Christianists think that because you believe something--really believe something--that it commands respect and deserves to be seen as legitimate.

I work from history, from the moral facts of our heritage. Not as I want them to be, but as they are. You're just another guy sanctioning your own private emotions and preferences with the...

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Patriotic Liberal Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 12:59 PM

you half-wits are so myopic that you confuse a fist in your face with panties in a bunch.

i cannot show you that the Founders were commie rats. you think either the framers were as you say they were or a bunch of commie rats? this is why you are a contemptible fool. you think in the categories of a teenager. more a child, really. I have an eight year old nephew who is more differentiated and sober in his reasoning than you. it is hilarious what a buffoon you are--the ridiculous claims you make about yourself and others..

i will say this: the delineation of powers to Congress reflect a transitory moment in history. The framers provided for post offices and roads, which is clearly something that might have been...

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clarityseeker2 Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 12:57 PM

Don't you fret about Pathetic Liberal's panties. Hoping for new one's are at the top of her Kwanzaa wish list.

Self-Serious is too kind a descripion of her demeanor. And no one is de-meanor than she is when she gets a wedgie.
You just keep on doin' that thing your doing.

What's most important here is to consider the degree to which these Liberal FOOLS are engaging in distration. Distraction from the bumbling idiocy emanating from Washington. The president? An absolute sock puppet.
That democrat led congress---since 2006?
They're still draining the swamp---had no idea how deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep it really was. And how many of its own it contained...

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The Plumber Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 12:36 PM

I love getting PL's panties in a wringer.

Bob is less fun because all he provides is a glib response to portions of comments that he takes out of context. Getting that clown to address the substance of a comment is like pulling teeth.

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albert henry Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 12:35 PM

And I see you competely ignore the creator, not ignore, work against those who will respect Him. Then as if thats not enough your involved in some sort of wholesale redefining of the Declaration, intents of the founding fathers, and the articles of history that brought us to the day of our founding.

But grapple with that "we are endowed with certian inalienable rights" Wrestle it down, choke the life out of it, and when you are done, the only damage will be to your person.

God is the first cause. God is the only cause. The only reason any of us draws breath is because of his mercy. But here you are declaring that God ought not, can not be recognized, that he had nothing to do with this countries founding. And that...

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The Plumber Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 12:24 PM

Stick with misplaced decimals and errors of syntax. You'll look less the fool that way.

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The Plumber Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 12:22 PM

"...a bunch of commie rats, or abandon the notion that what you believe is constitutional."

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clarityseeker2 Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 12:20 PM

"It's a given, dumb-dumb."

Funniest and scariest thing I have heard all week.
Not only can he not prove this, he does not have to. Leftists and Progressives engaged in a collective nod in agreement the moment it drooled from his lips.

Really, that is hilarious...

What a consistent Clown Boob is.

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The Plumber Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 12:19 PM

500 words and you say nothing except, "You're wrong because I say so." Pathetic.

Show me evidence FROM the Framers that suggest that they were a bunch of commie rats.

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Patriotic Liberal Wrote: Dec 20, 2009 12:03 PM

..part of #84), one has to consider the entire historic continuity when one is attempting the discern the meaning of constitutional text, and not simply freeze it to that place and time. Freezing--as the "originalists" try to do--is dishonest and futile. The Papers were written in a context--to convince the broader public to abandon the Articles of Confederation and accept a more compact union. In 84, i believe, Hamilton is trying to reassure people that a more compact national power does not mean a loss of liberty. The revolutionary generation saw an inverse relationship between power and liberty, and that dichotomy was at the center of their thinking. And indeed, they formed a government where power answered to the liberty of...

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