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Charisma, Country and Crying Uncle

zipher Wrote: Oct 03, 2012 4:08 PM
Of the $2.5 Trillion dollars spent in the United States on health care in 2007, what percentage is paid by taxpayers? The Kaiser Family Foundation calculates that 51% of health care spending was publicly financed in 2008, but this number seems to exclude health care for government employees. The Center for Medicare & Medicaid Services collects data on health care spending in its National Health Expenditure survey, which can be used to perform a direct calculation on the government share of health care financing. The following table summarizes the 2008 NHE data, the latest year for which a detailed breakdown is available:
zipher Wrote: Oct 03, 2012 4:09 PM
Category---------------------------------Amount (2008 $ Billions)
Medicare [1]-------------------------------------------------418
Medicaid (Including State Funding)-------------------340
Other Public Health Programs [2]----------------------189
Federal, State, and Local Employee Health Care--34
NIH and FDA Budgets [3]-------------------------------32
Total Public Spending--------------------------------1113
All Private Health Spending---------------------1018
2008 Total US Health Spending -------------2131
zipher Wrote: Oct 03, 2012 4:10 PM
The 2008 data show that 55% of all health care in the United States is publicly financed. The NHE data also show that from 1987 to 2008, the government’s share of health care financing has risen by ten percentage points, or about half a percentage point per year. This means that in 2009, the public share of health care spending is likely at 56%, or perhaps higher as a result of rising unemployment due to the recession. If health care subsidies (primarily tax exemptions) are included as government financing of health care, they add another $200 Billion to the total, raising the government’s share of health care spending to 62%.
zipher Wrote: Oct 03, 2012 4:11 PM
With the government already paying for the majority of US health care, one thing is clear about the current health care reform debate: The debate is not about whether the government will take control of the health care system, as that has quietly taken place over the last 40 years. The real debate is about how the government should distribute its health care spending, and on whether it will be able to rein in endless health care cost growth.

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