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Mob Rule Economics

Zenarts Wrote: Sep 13, 2014 10:39 AM
No Justice, No Peace: Private and government decisions that do not allow participation in those decisions by the majority are not worthy of respectable ‘law and order’ especially when those making the laws are the same ones paying workers peanuts for wages or suppressing their votes with so-call voter Id. That is not what democracy looks like. Workers resort to so-called ‘mob-rule’ when they do not get justice or a least a fair hearing in other forums. Sowell must think low-wage workers are stupid. Besides demanding higher wages, low-wage big box, fast food, retail and service workers are also demanding the right to unionize, a demand the big boxes like Walmart are resisting. The big boxes and fast foods resist unionization of their work force as a way to drive down wages and benefits they do not want to pay to begin with. Progressives have a slogan, ‘no justice, no peace.’ As long as the big box employers want to deny their work force a decent living wage, there will be no justice and no peace. Thomas Sowell can call it mob rule economics all he wants, but what workers are demanding is in the best traditions of the labor movement. And no Right-Winger whose intentions are to destroy the unions and pay workers substandard wages while CEOs make obscene incomes and tax breaks will ever change that. Zen
Create a Wasteland and Call it Peace: All the consequences that GW predicted are the results of his war of choice, not necessity, against Iraq. Blame ISIS on Bush. He unleased forces that the US cannot now control by deciding to attack Iraq without finishing the war in Afghanistan. If Saddam was not our SOB, he did at least control Islamic Fundamentalism via brutal suppression. When we took him out, there was no one else that could have done a better job. So we committed our own troops to die and bleed. Obama is just trying to clean up the mess the Right-Wing neo-cons left him. Now they want to blame Obama for the mess they created? Ridiculous. GW could have avoided all this by taking the advice of his father who obviously had more common sense not to get involved in a land war in the Near East by NOT going on to Baghdad after the First Gulf War. Since the end of the Vietnam War, a principle of US wars is not to start them unless we have an exit strategy, not stay there as an endless occupation force until colonial peoples accept our version of ‘nation building.’ The money and resources spend on occupation could have been better used to provide jobs or universal health care at home, but that is outside the sphere of Right-Wing thinking. Obama is now finding out how difficult it is to ‘exit’ because of the mess left him by the Right-Wing neo-cons. He may have no choice but to stay and fight. But like the Right-Wingers, he now has no plan to end these wars except to rewrite history, create a wasteland and call it peace. Or is it called empire building? Zen
Cleaning up the Reagan and Bush II Mess: It was the incompetency and ineptness of the Reagan and Bush II Administrations that got us involved in these wars. President Obama is under no obligation to end them in the way Right-Wingers want. The President is just trying to clean up the mess. During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, President Reagan and his military advisors, by way of the Pakistani military and intelligence, supported any and all groups resisting Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. While the policy was successful in driving out the Red Army, it left the most powerful, the most anti-Western, the most anti-American, the most Islamic fundamentalists groups in charge, i.e. the Taliban. Those chickens came home to roost on 9/11. Osama bin Laden was a holdover from those days. His targeted assassination was inevitable and necessary. Justice was done, but we should not cover up the incompetency of the Reagan Administration. The incompetency of the Bush II administration was to start a war of choice not necessity against a dictator who served American interest more often than not. Saddam Hussein like most autocrats of the Middle East served American interest by brutally suppressing anti-American as well as anti-regime Islamic Fundamentalism. Groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are very much part of coalitions rising up against such autocrats. Sometimes it is wiser to stick with the devil you know than risk dealing with the ones you do not know. Neither Presidents Reagan nor Bush deserves credit for the mess they created. The President has obviously decided these wars are ‘unwinnable’ and no longer worth the cost in U.S. lives and treasury. But he still cannot ignore history and the Right-Wing incompetency that got us involved in two unnecessary wars in the first place. Now the President has to finish up against the Islamic State (ISIS), but he cannot fix what the right-wing neo-cons have created in the first place. Zen
Key Stone Cops: Police response to racially charged incidents in which blacks are victims of unjustified police misconduct and violation of their civil rights demonstrates real incompetence. Police departments across the country have militarized their forces with military training, equipment, and procedures hoping to intimidate the community. But they only reveal themselves to be an occupying force that turn peaceful communities into war zones. Add to this, police arrest and attacks on the press makes it more likely the police will violate constitutionally protected rights and liberties, unnoticed and unreported. It is turning us into a third world nation in which the public has no control over or protections against law enforcement and its gestapo tactics. Right-Wingers defending the police should be careful what they wish for. They may be the next victims of police misconduct. Or maybe they think the police will give then a break because of skin color. Bob Barr is correct. The police and public officials in Ferguson have shown gross incompetence. If they want to occupy a community, send in the real military, but do not leave it to the key stone cops to restore order. Zen
Misinformed and Uninformed: Larry Kudlow needs to come out of his Right-Wing fantasy world and return to reality. If he had read Piketty, he will find out that long term stagnation, not growth, is the future of American capitalists regardless of which corporate owned party is in power. Growing income inequality and high unemployment levels will be the norm from here on out. No Right-Wing Tea Party economics that gives tax breaks and other benefits to the few corporate rich while busting unions and the safety net will ever change those trends. As for U.S.-Russian relations, it is the Russians who have more to fear from us. We place NATO installations and weapons at their doorsteps and expect them not to react? If JFK would not stand for nuclear weapons in our backyard, meaning Cuba, why should Putin? Does he not have a right to protect his nation’s interests and not be intimidated by those taking advantage of the breakup of the Soviet Union. The most disgusting policy is the use of neo-Nazis and Euro-Fascists to advance NATO and U.S. geopolitical goals. Kudlow knows, or should know, that Ukrainian fascists control the important ministries of defense and security. And they go about their business a ruthlessly as their descendants, the WII Ukraine Waffen SS divisions use to. The Right-Wingers should be praising Obama. He is doing what they would do, putting us all in mortal danger by challenging the Russians who are only helping their fellow compatriots fight off fascists and neo-Nazis who using acts of extreme violence, ethnic cleanings, and anti-Semitism just to give the U.S. and NATO a free hand in a former Soviet Republic. Maybe Kudlow loves to argue from ignorance or only to those with low information. Zen
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The Pope and Capitalism

Zenarts Wrote: Dec 19, 2013 10:35 AM
Sorry, no can do. I am not into defending Liberalism. I hate Liberalism more than Conservatism hate Liberalism. I would normally agree with many Conservative arguments, but it is more fun attacking conservatives.
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The Pope and Capitalism

Zenarts Wrote: Dec 19, 2013 8:32 AM
The Pope Believes Otherwise: The Pope was denouncing unregulated and unfettered capitalism in which entrepreneurs made their profits unethically by exploiting their workers or cheating their customers. More importantly, Professor Williams misses another vital point on the issue of inequality. The problem is not attempting to make everyone equal. The problem is growing, repeat, growing income inequality. More people are living off of food stamps, unemployed, homeless, in poverty, without health insurance than ever before. Those numbers will grow if Right-Wingers carry out their programs for dismantling the safety nets. That means growing numbers of people whose needs and desires are not being met by capitalism. And it is growing income inequality that is the result of unconscionable Right-Wing public policies that contribute to the suffering of millions while giving tax breaks and even greater benefits to the wealthy few. When the rich and their bought and paid for political cronies can actively redistribute more wealth and income upward while 99% of Americans are suffering, and do it without shame or guilt, then something is wrong. One can come up with a litany of Right-Wing programs that will put more people into unnecessary pain with no gain except for the wealthy and corporate few. The best measure of how well we distribute or redistribute wealth is not how generous Americans are, but how tolerate they are of growing homelessness, hunger, joblessness, poverty. Regardless of the so-called generosity of Americans, Right-Wingers can tolerate, ignore, and/or disregard higher levels of these metrics (e.g. poverty or homelessness) than Progressives. As dogmatic believers in unfettered unregulated capitalism, they tell us the market will provide or god himself will, just pray. It is all faith based. Fortunately, the Pope believes otherwise. Zen-
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Republicans v. Conservatives

Zenarts Wrote: Dec 18, 2013 11:04 AM
A Losing Proposition: The arch-conservatives in and out of Congress are pitting themselves not just against the Establishment but also the business community. Billionaires like the Koch and the Chamber of Commerce are beginning to see Tea Party extremists as real threats to business interests. The Koch brothers in particular have contributed a lot of money to campaigns and practically own most Right-Wing politicians. It is Right-Wing groups that are struggling to gain control by threatening to ‘primary’ politicians they do not own and who refuse to do their bidding. It is not so much a disagreement over conservative principles as it is a disagreement over tactics and strategies. The Koch brothers did not want to defund Obamacare at all cost, to include shutting down the government and wrecking the economy. Shutting down government hurts the business community and the GOP brand more than it hurts the liberals. If Right-Wing pressure groups do not want to be dictated to, then business interests do not want to be associated with Right-Wing groups that disregard the interests of millions of suffering Americans and the interests of banking, Chamber of Commerce, and other businesses for the sake of ideological purity. As Speaker Boehner correctly explained; outside conservative groups are more interested in expanding their membership lists, raising money, and growing their organizations, not winning elections in the short or long run. If they do not want to follow the party line, they certainly will become more independent of the GOP. But it is simply bad press for the GOP to be associated with conservative groups that are ideologically driven. Then again ideologically driven tactics and strategies, like the shut down, are empirically losing propositions. Zen-
What is the Real Goal? If the aim is to turn traditional Democrats to vote GOP, the Republicans are wasting their time and money among blacks, Hispanics, and other minorities who traditionally vote Democratic Party. These groups are well aware of the austerity agenda of the GOP that will leave them homeless, sick (no Obamacare), hungry (no food stamps), broke (Mcjobs), and jobless with no unemployment insurance. These are the core of the conservative message and principles. Most of these peoples know what the GOP stands for and do not trust it to work for their interests and not corporate interests. Is goal of the ground game is to get people to vote against their own interest and for corporate interests? Is the goal to get voters to attack workers, their unions, their wages, benefits and living standards? What is the real goal of the ground plan? -
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Lesson's Learned from Tuesday's Election

Zenarts Wrote: Nov 08, 2013 11:47 AM
Thank you.
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Lesson's Learned from Tuesday's Election

Zenarts Wrote: Nov 08, 2013 11:29 AM
Lessons Not Learned: Linda Chavez is correct. It is going to take money and outreach for the GOP to win elections. But she ignores the fact the GOP is being dragged down by unwinnable unelectable Right-Wing candidates. The party’s biggest donors now realize how the Tea Party candidate Cuccinelli could not win voters outside his extremist base. Traditional sources of money, like the Chamber of Commerce, are tired of wasting their money on extreme Right-Wing losers. Candidates who are ‘too conservative and Right-Wing’ are not electable. It is better to support a moderate or RINO who is. Even the RNC did not give Cuccinelli the kind of monies and ads he needed to win. Why waste time and money on losers whose message and agenda is so toxic to a plurality of voters? More Virginians were voting against Cuccinelli than voting for McAuliffe. Therefore raising money, while not a problem for moderates and RINOs, will severely hurt extreme Right-Wingers. Another problem is Tea Party candidates alienating groups who find their message and agenda so toxic. In the last days, Cuccinelli closed to within a 2.5% gap by running away from his Right-Wing positions on the issues. He even promised not to ‘really’ implement the Tea Party’s war on women if elected. Like Romney, he must have been severely joking about being ‘severely conservative.’ But it was too little, too late, too bad. Cuccinelli also claimed that the election was a referendum on Obamacare, but Obamacare won. The key is not how many think Obamacare is a flop, but how many voters think the Democratic candidate can do a better job of providing health care for all. The answer, shared by a plurality of voters, is to choose the Democratic candidate. The Right-Wingers have not learned a thing. They will continue to do the same things over and over again hoping for different results the next time. If the RNC and big donors have their way, there will not be a next time. Zen-
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