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“Violence And Destruction Are Heard Within Her”

Zen. Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 2:52 PM
The Future is Us: While Right-Wingers talk the hokum of ‘individual responsibility,’ and praise the self-made individual, social and economic forces are at work that push many, the sane and the insane, over the cliff into acts of unspeakable horror against fellow human beings. These are individuals who do not think of themselves as part of a larger community, a village. They see themselves as loners and ‘losers’ who cannot meet the standards of the social Darwinian world of unfettered capitalism. In the surreal Ayn Rand dystopia of the Right only the strong survive. The weak, sick, injured, hungry, and homeless are allowed to die off as nature intends. In the ‘you’re on your own’ economy (yoyo) the Right-Wingers are planning, we can ....
Zen. Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 2:52 PM
....expect more such violence. Young men, especially, are at risk. For young men who live in macho, patriarchal society, much is expected of them to live up to male cultural norms. These norms require a future with a good paying job, marriage, a family to support. But the reality of having a college degree but still living in the basement of their parents’ home, flipping hamburgers for a living, and driving the family car for transportation may be too mentally disturbing for some who flip out completely.
But as these mass killers, ‘losers,’ demonstrate, they will not leave the world without leaving their mark on it in ways that are horrific. As a society, we cannot toss away the social safety net and not expect repercussions from those....
Zen. Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 2:53 PM
...affected. In times of economic crisis we should be helping people out in order to minimize the stress and emotional trauma of job losses, foreclosures, evictions, bankruptcies. To cut back on social safety nets like food stamps is to increase the numbers of disturbed, stressed, suicidal, homicidal people society has to deal with. Add to this mix the ability of young men to easily obtain guns and assault rifles, you then get the dystopia world of the Right-Wingers. What happened in Colorado is the future. Either we change it, or live with it by adopting the Right-Wing agenda. –Zen
KYoung43 Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 3:19 PM
My God, where to start with this. First of all, being responsible for oneself and one's actions is grownup and adult. Children whose parents don't want their children to experience failure don't teach them resilience. Not finding a job after college has nothing to do with "right wing hokum." It has to do with a progressive mantra that interferes with the ability of people to make their own way. Rules and regulations are strangling those who want to start and run their own businesses, growing them to be able to hire more. Cutting back on the societal safety net does NOT increase the number of disturbed people. Not encouraging success in everyone is what is wrong with your argument.
Paulus Textor Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 5:02 PM
Kyoung43, to answer the rhetorical question at the start of your reply: it's better not to try. Such a confused, stream-of-consciousness muddle as Zen's would take ten pages to reply to, and at the end of that effort, what have you really accomplished? Until this chap can learn to express a thought economically and efficiently, in a single post, he's not worth replying to.

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