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The Reliability of Polls - and Polling Experts

wsmith-84 Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 11:55 PM
Silver is NOT a pollster. And if he was, NOBODY has turned their "decision making" over to him. Polls measure public sentiment, they don't shape it.
Dave M Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 9:30 AM
You missed the point entirely. Whether polls are accurate or not-there isn't anything I can do about them. I have seen many close races lost by the candidate who panicked over polls - mis-interpreted them and did exactly what was necessary to lose. There are things I want done- or NOT done. My voting pattern is set by that. It isn't going to change because a poll says everyone else wants something different.
jimmylynn Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 6:00 AM

You have a problem. You make everyone look "clever"
MudontheTires Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 3:20 AM
Conservatives stubbornly believe what they prefer to believe, so they hate inconvenient facts.

You mean like how successful that the marxist policies of your messiah have been?

Try again you, mindless prog.
scrow Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 2:03 AM
(he said, describing "Town Hall nutters" in a black and white, either a or b terms)
Dave M Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 1:23 AM
Um- the primary use of polls in the modern era is to manufacture a desired outcome.
wsmith-84 Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 12:53 AM
Better than a pedophile, right wilford?

I find it hysterical that ANYONE thinks I'm a big Obama supporter. I guess if you possess simple binary brain function in a black and white Manichean world, everything must be either 'a' or 'b'.

Real people don't think that way - that appears to be unique to Town Hall nutters.

wsmith-84 Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 12:47 AM
Nice vapid word salad there, maryann.

I bet you believe that you're clever...

jimmylynn Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 12:16 AM

That's not very objective. Polls have two functions. First of course, polls shape public sentiment for liberals because they base things on their emotions. Liberals like to "feel" like they are winning.

Polls are intended to shape public opinion for conservatives, because they base things on their reasoning. Liberal pollsters want conservatives to believe polls are factual. Conservatives love facts so let's invent some for them.

Botom line.....polls are invented to make public sentiment and opinion, not take it.
brimley Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 12:13 AM
sucks to be an Obamaphile these days, doesn't it?
There has been just about one constant up for discussion in an electoral season filled with tumultuous polling: Nate Silver.

Nate Silver is the statistician and poll-watching guru who rose to prominence in 2008 by developing a poll aggregation model that correctly predicted 49 of 50 states in that year's presidential contest. He has since been hired by the New York Times and gained more prominence with his up-to-the-minute analysis on new polls and the state of the presidential race.

Conservatives have attacked Silver relentlessly for his model that predicts that President Obama with a 70%+ chance to win...