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7 Reasons Conservatives Don't Trust the Republican Establishment

Wolfgang6 Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 12:51 PM
When will you "conservatives" finally get it through your thick skulls that your viewpoint and desires are NOT shared by the majority of voters in this country? The Republican Party's goal is to win elections, not to maintain an ideological purity that satisfies back country rubes but guarantees electoral losses. Your era has passed - get used to it because it isn't coming back.
bmaciver Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 1:30 PM
"[...] ideological purity that satisfies back country rubes [...]"

Your behavior suggests you are a democrat. Why are you complaining?

You won.
Wolfgang6 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 12:28 PM
Because I believe in a viable two-party system. Right now, the Republicans defecate in their trousers for fear of the ueber-right-wing TEA Party/Evangelical element. Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt have to be shaking their heads at the marginal positions on too many issues that the fringe mandates be the litmus test. Yes, I voted for the incumbent because I didn't want corporate elitists like the Koch Brothers imposing their neo-Gilded Age view upon the rest of us. A viable Republican Party is necessary to keep the Democrats honest and pull them back from their left-wing fringe.
Stuart95 Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 1:16 PM
Kinda gotta go with Wolfgang on this.

Recently we were faced with the most polarizing, flawed, Constitution-shunning, race-baiting, socialist-appointing, economy-busting, self-avowed statist in many generations. You could not have asked for a more vulnerable opponent. But the electorate, including conservatives, still fell far short of beating him.

It's bitter medicine, but the R's are going to have to figure out how to enlarge their tent. Wolfie's wrong, however, about ideological purity, because the R's have no definable ideology or principles. What he perhaps meant to say was that clinging to pure positions on insoluble social issues is not a winning strategy when faced with legions of Low-Information Voters trolling for handouts.
Corbett_ Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 1:30 PM
When the GOP decided to nominate Obama-lite to run against Obama, they sealed the election for Obama. You and Wolfgang say conservatism is dead -- and we say it hasn't even been presented as an option.
Stuart95 Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 1:56 PM
Didn't say conservatism was dead, just too small in numbers to win national elections against hucksters like BO & Pals.

Poll after poll shows that most people, including most minorities, have conservative views on one subject or another, but don't consider themselves conservatives. If conservatives have any good marketing materials, this would be a good time to clarify their positions and principles. 2014 elections are just around the corner.
Corbett_ Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 4:03 PM
Stuart -- you will find that many polls say that people consider themselves to be conservatives -- just not Republicans. That is because they know the GOP is not a conservative party.
Just as moderates are completely unrepresented in a Democratic Party that's dominated by liberals, movement conservatives often don't feel represented by the Republican Party. At first glance, this seems rather odd since most Republicans in Congress are conservative. However, it's a natural reaction to the Republican establishment that has its hands welded to many of the GOP's levers of power. The Republican Party may be mostly conservative, but there are a multitude of reasons that you can't trust the establishment Republicans as far as you can throw them.

1) They have supreme confidence without supreme competence. Conservative talk show hosts, columnists,...