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Big Business Is Not Conservative

wmou Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 12:23 PM
national defense is one of the required functions of the central govt according to the constitution in our republic. Nothing socialist about war, except socialists tend to start most wars.
pastorial Wrote: Oct 24, 2012 9:26 AM
x/? did the Muslims start the crusades?
Carl469 Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 11:50 PM
Wrong. Muslims start most wars. As for FDR, he was responding to the Japs' attack on Pearl Harbor. If Wendell Willkie were president in December 1941, he would have reacted the same way.
pastorial Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 5:32 PM
P, what about
the war of 1812
the mexzican war
the civil war
the spanish-american war,
the gulf war
the iraq war
the afghan war
the cultural war
the war on women's health
the next war in iran
Petya Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 4:52 PM
bmoney - and German - don't forget German. Hitler couldn't cross the British Channel, but he would definitely cross the Atlantic... And other whoppers brought to you by neo-clowns.
Petya Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 4:51 PM
I would copy the Swiss (whom Hitler didn't dare to attack) and Finland.

Peace and Trade with everyone, and really strong defense.

Now, what you call "defense", you brainwashed by neo-clowns ladykrystyna, is actually militarism and offense. That is, outside of your Orwelian world.
bmoney Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 3:59 PM
Yes good point, if it wasn't for us going on the offensive in the middle east we would all be speaking Iraqi right now!
ladykrystyna Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 3:30 PM
So do tell us, Paulbot, how would you propose we do "national defense". If you had it your way, we'd stick our head in the sand and pretend we have no enemies. Sometimes we have to be on the offense and sometimes on the defense. Depends on the circumstances. But all of it has to do with defending this nation from enemies both foreign and domestic.

And that's why I'll never vote for Ron Paul.
wmou Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 3:00 PM
Usually some totalitarian in a foreign nation.
Petya Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 2:45 PM
Socialists and Progressives do tend to start most wars - Wilson got us into WWI, FDR into WWII, Truman into Korea, and (mostly) LBG into Vietnam, Clinton got us into Balkans.

Wha'ts funny is former socialists and progressives - neoconservatives - now alligned themselves to GOP.

Oh... National Defense - yes, it's a function of the government, but Offense and Militarism - NO.
pastorial Wrote: Oct 23, 2012 1:36 PM
x / !

w, who started most wars?
Stephen Moore, of the Wall Street Journal's editorial board, reported Friday that the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate from Arizona, Congressman Jeff Flake, has little support among some powerful big businessmen in Arizona:

"In his razor-tight race for Arizona's open Senate seat, Republican nominee Jeff Flake -- a six-term U.S. congressman -- recently met behind closed doors with about a dozen leading businessmen in the state, including two powerful and respected CEOs: real-estate developer Mike Ingram and former Phoenix Suns owner Jerry Colangelo.

"Both businessmen supported Mr. Flake's opponent in the Republican primary (Mr. Flake won by 40 points), and both are...