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‘Jesus Christ’ Banned from Council Prayers

WiliamGosset Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 3:40 PM
Sorry, guys, but Christianity is NOT the state religion, so all public meetings which are tax-payer funded are not permitted to invoke one form of religion in preference to another. There are Jews and other non-Christian religions in this country. Don't invoke the Founding Fathers because they were Deists (believed in God) and NOT Christian (such as John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.) Sorry to bust your self-righteous bubble.
Dean197 Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 10:17 AM
A lot of them WERE Christians, but some of the most influential were deists. None of them were Christians that Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson would claim if they were alive today, though.
Tom189 Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 7:42 PM
Sooooo Little Billie . . . quashing Christian expression in a public forum is ok as long as atheists are free to impose their "faith" in the same forum? Not only are you inconsistent, you are a bit of a moron.
Dean197 Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 10:24 AM
When the local atheist sues to make the town council start their sessions with a talk about how there is no God, you'll have a point. Until then, you don't.
Ken6226 Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 6:48 PM
Many of the founders were in fact Christians. John Adams was probably not what we would call an orthodox Christian, but neither was he a deist. Furthermore, the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.

Sorry to bust your pseudo-intellectual bubble (actually, I'm not a bit sorry).
Anominus Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 3:58 PM
No one is forcing anyone else to pray, but this atheist is attempting to use the non-existant "separation of church and state" to silence the religious freedoms of others - talk about a self-righteous bubble!
Dean197 Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 10:23 AM
It's settled law. The town council is breaking the law. The law doesn't end with the Constitution, it begins with it. They should stop breaking the law. Some Mexican trying to find a way to feed his family sneaks over the border and gets a job as a dishwasher, and TownHall is all over how illegal he is. But when Christians break the law, it's fine, as long as it's to push Christianity.
ConcealedCarry Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 3:57 PM
Billie, shouldn't the 1st Amendment be accurately read to allow the tax-payers of Kelso-Longview to make their own decision about whether or not to use the Name of Jesus at council meetings?

... ever hear of FREEDOM, Billie?
Dean197 Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 10:21 AM
Ever here of limited government, CC. The case law against sectarian prayers in town council meetings is based on restraining the power of the government to endorse a particular religion, not your freedom to practic any one you want. I don't recall 'blessed are those who secure government endorsement of Christianity ' being in the Beatitudes.

The mayor of a Washington town has directed pastors to stop invoking the name “Jesus Christ” in city council invocations.

Don Jensen, the mayor of Longview, Wash., told the Kelso-Longview Ministerial Association that prayers mentioning Christ were not acceptable because they could expose the city to a lawsuit.

The decision has sparked controversy in the city – located about 50 miles north of Portland, Ore.

Mark Schmutz, who pastors the Northlake Baptist Church, said if they can’t speak the name Jesus Christ, association ministers will no longer provide the invocation.

“We need to be able to speak Jesus’ name,” he told...