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Where Will You Be When the Lights Go Out?

Wayne410 Wrote: Jun 03, 2012 2:29 PM
The problem is NOT with the EPA nor the Sierra Club. The EPA serves at the whims of whatever administration is in power and there are always going to be wacko-name-your-cause groups out there. The real problem is the entrenched tentacles of the federal government in every aspect of life. Kentucky and Virginia, being the approval authorities for the mines in thier respective states, could easily tell the EPA to go fly a kite and then mine all the coal they want, especially since Virginia has an ocean coast and can ship coal to buyers around the world. What would the federal government do? Send the U.S. Army in to shut them down? Use Navy submarines to blow up coal carrying ships? No need for any of that. The states comply with.....
Wayne410 Wrote: Jun 03, 2012 2:30 PM
the EPA because if they don't then the fed will withhold transportation funds, educational funds, medicare, medicaid and social security dollars. We as a people are so enslaved to the federal government that we cannot do anything without it's approval and that's exactly opposite what the founders intended. As long as we depend on the federal government to give back to us our federal income tax dollars through various agencies and programs we cannot do anything the fed does not approve. This fundamental principle of modern government must change. Besides being enslaved to the whims of whatevwer party is in power literally trillions of dollars are wasted on bureaucratic costs. Instead of sending the fed 20, 25, 30 or whatever percent...
Wayne410 Wrote: Jun 03, 2012 2:30 PM
of our income just so they can divy it up and send it back to us through various agencies AND wasting dollars on the cost of accounting, processing and handing those dollars back to us, we should be sending only minimal amounts to the fed for basic national concerns such as defense, international trade, interstate highways, etc. Then states would have the authority AND the power to actually be independent and do what's best for the state rather than bow to the pressure of the latest wacko cause out there. Granted, some states would spend it's own money smartly and economically and others would not but that's the way of the world. If one state had great roads which encouraged commerce and manufacturing while another suffered a recession..
Wayne410 Wrote: Jun 03, 2012 2:30 PM
due to bad roads then the state with the bad roads would either wise up or suffer. Considering the diversity of the climate, terrain, ecology, culture and even the morals of the population ni the various states it only makes sense that some national standard created by nameless bureaucrats at the national level cannot and will not ever work for all. Yet this is exactly what is expected by the numbskulls we send to D.C. I could not in good conscience ever support Ron Paul but on this one issue of State's Rights he is a superstar. Until power is returned to the people, via the states, agencies like the EPA will continue to rule us a surely as if we had a monarchy rather than a republic.
ThasicAlambra Wrote: Jun 03, 2012 8:32 PM
You're wrong. The EPA is the problem. No un-elected group should be dictating country wide policy without any restrictions. Decisions of that magnitude are the sole province of the elected Senators and Congressmen. That's why they got elected and that is why they get paid. Anything else is tyranny.
Wayne410 Wrote: Jun 04, 2012 4:53 AM
In this article the EPA is merely one example of Government Gone Wild but the problem goes much deeper. It's not the EPA specifically that's the problem but the whole idea that the federal government has the power to tell the states how to conduct business within thier own borders. If it weren't the EPA it would be the NLRB (Boeing), the Justice Department (Gibson Guitar), DOE (oil leases), etc, etc, etc.
lamiablk Wrote: Jun 04, 2012 3:40 PM
Have to agree with you, Wayne. The more times money changes hands, the less money comes out in the end (both by the processing and through corruption). It's all a power generator for the fed govt to control the states and also to prop up states that have bad policies with money from states that have good policies.

The passage of time is marked with milestones. We each know where we were when President Kennedy was shot, when the Berlin Wall came down, and on the morning of 9-11. If we continue on the current course, you’ll be telling your grandchildren where you were the night the lights went out in America.

America’s energy policy is being dominated by environmentalists’ priorities—regardless of the impact to the American economy, individual communities, or economically-challenged citizens. The plans to shut down or limit America’s abundant, available, and affordable energy are organized, coordinated, and effective. The results will be “lights out in America”—a...