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Drought! Famine! Global…Cooling?

Ward3 Wrote: Oct 16, 2012 4:31 PM
I'm not a Climate Change Denier. I say all the time that the Earth's climate has been in a constant state of change for nearly 6 Billion Years! Seriously, I'm so glad to see this "science" be proven about as crazy as "Scientology" as a religion! Now, just remember that over the past 16 years where there has been no global warming more CO2 than ever was being emitted into the atmosphere with the industrialization of India and China so the idea that more CO2 is going to kill us is as stupid today as it was 16 years ago. I love that the enviro-nazi's & EPA (same thing really) claim CO2 is a pollutant. Without CO2 NOTHING would live! Yeah, let's ban CO2! Based on Bill Maher's rant that people need to die I can see him supporting that policy.
Jim69 Wrote: Oct 16, 2012 5:32 PM
Six billion years!? Someone has not read The Bible!
ericynot Wrote: Oct 16, 2012 5:42 PM
Oh, yeah. The Bible -- our best source for solid science.
rightmostofthetime Wrote: Oct 16, 2012 5:51 PM
One of the few times you and I agree. There's a great quote: "I can remember when scientists didn't preach and preachers didn't do science." Science and religion answer different questions. Don't go to scientists for faith-based issues and don't go to the Bible for scientific questions. As an aside, the Earth is only about 4.5 billion years old, not 6 billion.
rightmostofthetime Wrote: Oct 16, 2012 4:37 PM
While the climate modelers clearly have it wrong, I wouldn't make a claim that the unprecedented levels of CO2 in the atmosphere pose absolutely no threat. Claiming that would be just as ridiculous as the claims that AGW is settled science. It makes sense to try and reduce our CO2 output, because it's generally not a good thing to drastically alter the Earth's environment. While that's a good long-term goal, we need to realize that the situation isn't what the enviros say it is. There is no impending doom.
Demosthenes5 Wrote: Oct 16, 2012 4:49 PM
Actually, 90% of sum total of greenhouse gases happens to be water vapor, whereas carbon dioxide contributes around 8% and methane and other trace gases he remaining 2%. I think that plant life might disagree w/ you.

BTW, speaking as a master cave diver (NACD, NSS-CDS, IANTD) I've seen evidence of climate change, i.e., the geological formations in the artesian wells of NE Florida in which I've explored could only have been formed if said water were locked up in polar-spanning glacier formations. However, anthropogenic climate change is not a fact.
rightmostofthetime Wrote: Oct 16, 2012 5:30 PM
Not quite. Water vapor makes up 97% of greenhouse gases. it's a non-factor, though, because the amount of water vapor remains constant. Nothing we do will increase or decrease that amount. Now, even though CO2 is a small percentage of greenhouse gases, it is more effective at trapping heat. In the end, CO2 accounts for about 30% of the greenhouse effect. If you check out the steep rise in CO2 content in recent years, then you'll know that we are putting WAY more CO2 into the atmosphere than is "normal" (as determined by 500,000 years of data). Now, the computer models obviously either overestimate the role of the greenhouse effect on climate or underestimate other factors, but it seems we ought to be careful about altering significantly
rightmostofthetime Wrote: Oct 16, 2012 5:31 PM
(cont) the contents of the atmosphere.

Climate experts from United Kingdom’s National Weather Service told the world that while is was not unusual for pauses in global warming that last for a decade to occur once every eighty years or so, there was no way that one could last for 15 years or more according to their climate model.

Oops. Their mistake, I guess.

Maybe that’s why when the United Kingdom’s National Weather Service updated their data and it showed that global warming has been paused for the last 16 years, they remained mum.

“The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new...