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WakeUpAmerica Wrote: May 18, 2012 5:56 AM
If Obama-nation had any sense he'd see the consequences of 'big government and waste' by looking at Greece imploding before his very eyes! Living in denial also has its consequences and Nov,6, 2012 will see his inept and incompetent poseur butt kicked to the curb way below Jimmy Carters' catastrophic presidency! NOBAMA 2012! - hope and change I can really believe in!
aknowles Wrote: May 18, 2012 9:02 PM
You give too much credit to our esteemed PPR Obama. His agenda is for himself only and the damage he can do to America. Wonder where his millions are?
peaceman Wrote: May 18, 2012 6:09 AM
WakeUp...really?? Obama's cut 600,000+ 'public' sector jobs and ending 2 wars that Bush Jr spent us into deep debt along with a no-constraints recession. Look at the history of Repubs in office: THEY SPEND LOTS OF MONEY!! Then when the Dems are in office, they cry about the debt which is actually a part of their strategy for power grab. Oh, yes, Carter did much better than people claim, kept employment and the debt DOWN, which Reagan didn't (tripled it)...if you want the banks and Wall St (JP Morgan and the boys) to continue their ways then go ahead and vote for Romney...and if he wins, it will only get bank on it!!!
oldnjal Wrote: May 18, 2012 6:51 AM
Not in contact with reality, at all, peaceman.
The wars were really not such a big part of the budget, (when we had one), but the problem is entitlements, which must be shaved away as painlessly as possible. Which might be impossible. At any rate, any proposals would be on new people, not present recipients.
Obama will bring Greece here, if not Cuba, as he is doing that for the last 3 years.
Nobody wants the Carter years, why vote for a man who has made things worse.
Greater debt than ever, that pales what Bush brought.
How poor do you want to be?
Jerome49 Wrote: May 18, 2012 11:34 AM
Hmmm. So the Republicans start all the wars huh? I seem to recall that FDR (a Democrat)was in office in 1941 and asked congress for a declaration of war. Harry Truman (another Democrat) presided over the Korean War. LBJ (another Democrat) signed the Gulf of tonkin Resolution that initiated the war in Vietnam and sent 500,000 troops there.

Bush 41 kicked Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait in two weeks. Bush 43 went after the wrong people in Iraq with no exist strategy and also into Afghanistan. Obama, the chief critic of the War on Terror, has continued the war in Afghanistan since 1/1/09.
Becca in TX Wrote: May 18, 2012 11:47 AM
It doesn't matter who STARTS the wars-what matters is whether or not the wars were justified. Dims started Korea and Vietnam when we really didn't have a dog in that fight. A Dim started us into WWII but he really didn't have a choice after Pearl Harbor. A Republican started Iraq and Afghanistan AFTER WE WERE ATTACKED! Are you too dense to see the difference?
aknowles Wrote: May 18, 2012 9:03 PM
PPR Obama is cutting more then jobs. He is cutting the unity of the people of this Nation.
peaceman Wrote: May 18, 2012 10:26 PM
You're not getting my point. I was commenting on a 30 year old Repub strategy and a critical comment re the LACK of important regulation that led to the recession and unnecessary bailout of Wall St (should let them die). You and others get a kick out of the fiction around Carter so just look at the facts instead of talking points. Obama has been completely blocked by R's who have abused the filibuster beyond anything ever witnessed. We need more revenues and the current tax rates and tax structure needs to be changed with upper rates going higher. Otherwise we're reflecting the conditions that were pre-crash years before the Depression
peaceman Wrote: May 18, 2012 10:29 PM're spewing a talking point that has been pushed with great intensity and nothing could be further from the truth. I'm not a fan of politics and feel both sides need to clean up their acts, but the 'right-wing' media has gone way over the top on criticizing Obama and the R's have been the most divisive politically that I've seen ever and I go back to the 50's...
peaceman Wrote: May 18, 2012 10:36 PM're right in that it doesn't matter who STARTS the wars. Korea had the FULL backing of the Repubs as the FEAR of Communism was HUGE back in those days and Vietnam was about resources, not communism (that was the excuse and I was there). FDR started the move towards Europe given the peril England was enduring and knew mid-42 that Japan was planning an attack, so the R's eventually saw the writing on the wall. However, you're making a HUGE assumption that Iraq and Afghanistan attacked us so we were justified to go to war. In fact, neither country attacked (just google the facts) as we used other reasoning to invade (WMD's that were non-existent). Al Qaeda is the organization we've after re the facts and you'll
peaceman Wrote: May 18, 2012 10:38 PM
...see that I'm not so dense as you assume. And name calling only demeans you and reveals your own let's not go there again
Midwest Mike Wrote: May 22, 2012 2:18 PM
Carter ... really ... I guess you would like Obama then. I remember the Carter presidency .. High unemployment, long gas lines, very high inflation and terribly high interest rates, because the government was sucking all the money out of the private sector by borrowing so much.
The real class warfare in this country isn't rich vs. poor, it's government employees vs. we, the taxpayers, who pay their salaries.

Working for the government is supposed to be a trade-off: You can't be fired and don't have to exert yourself, but you will receive smaller remuneration than in the private sector, where layoffs are common (especially in the Obama economy!). Instead, government jobs are safe, secure, pressure-free -- and now, amazingly lucrative!

Whether it's in Wisconsin, Illinois, California or the nation's capital, today's public sector workers expect to do little or no work (I'm not counting partying...

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