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Mormons Have Irrational Beliefs? Who Doesn't?

VickyD4Liberty Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 12:54 PM
And what is it's purpose in mormonism?
Brent150 Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 5:27 PM
That is a very very tenuous scripture to cite for such a doctrine - much like when my fellow baptists try to argue for an "age of accountability" based solely and completely on nothing but a single utterance of King David following the death of his first son by Bathsheba. It's a weak, weak argument based on a single verse of scripture-surely you can see that? I'll take Jesus as my intercessor based on Hebrews 9:24
"For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence."
VickyD4Liberty Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 5:13 PM
You make it sound as though Jesus will not intercede for us with out His mother's request. That is false
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 3:23 PM

We are taught by and encouraged in Scripture, to ask Mary's holy petitions at the feet of her Son.

Read chapter 2 of John's gospel, Vicky;

WHO made request of Jesus for help, when the wine went finished; at the wedding feast of Cana? MARY; and she knew He would give her the favor; for her friends all present.

This despite what He told her: "My hour is not yet come!:

He CHANGED His hour, only because His mother interceded on behalf of wedding guests! God, who loves his mother!

How much more will He make concessions for US; all sinners, for whom he laid down His life; with the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary?

Brent150 Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 3:06 PM
I agree with everything except your last sentence - what scripture states that Mary prays in heaven for people? I am aware of several that claim Christ himself is our intercessor, (If so, he must by definition be the 'most powerful', or you have elevated Mary above him) but nothing that indicates Mary prays for us, or should ever be prayed to.
VickyD4Liberty Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 1:21 PM
What, no Jesus is, I do not pretend to say she was not important, or that the Father did not show favor in choosing her to be the mother of God, but I do not pray to her. Nor does Jesus say we should.
Louie13 Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 1:19 PM
Careful Vicky, Catholics revere Mary as the Mother of Christ, but they do not worship Mary as God. Our Lord himself loves his Mother Mary dearly, and has said of her that he can deny her nothing, and that those who hate his Mother have a false love of him. Be careful. She is our most powerful intercessor in Heaven.

Louie
VickyD4Liberty Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 1:11 PM
I did know that, Catholicism is saturated with paganism, both in practice, and symbolism. The idea that the virgin Mary is divine, and that one would pray to her suggests the idea that there is more than one God. It is a dangerous theology to follow. As is any deviation from what the Bible says.
VickyD4Liberty Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 1:05 PM
And the use of a blog is not substantial evidence of anything but someone's bias.
VickyD4Liberty Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 1:04 PM
What is my agenda? You have such hostility, it is important for you to understand that you are describing yourself, not me. You do not know me, but you very clearly choose to see things in a way that fits your agenda.
Lady Wolverine Wrote: Jun 19, 2012 12:56 PM
See what I mean about her not wanting answers that don't fit her agenda, Amy? Talk about thick headed MORONS.
Commentators on both the right and left and both secular and religious note with disdain that Mormons (Latter Day Saints, as Mormons refer to themselves) have irrational practices and beliefs. The former, we are told, includes the wearing of sacred undergarments and the latter includes posthumous baptisms and the claims by the prophet of Mormonism to have found and deciphered engraved golden plates in New York State.

I read and hear these dismissals of Mormonism with some amusement -- because everyone who makes these charges holds beliefs and/or practices that outsiders consider just as irrational.

Let's begin with the religious critics.

There doesn't exist...