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I'll read about the cars, too!
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And the War Came

VaSteve Wrote: Aug 02, 2014 7:59 AM
It seems that if Abe truly did not want war, why not meet with the Peace Committee that was in Washington. But no. Lincoln feared by meeting with seceded state leaders, it would give some sort of credence to there being a CSA. To quote Lincoln 4 years into the war as to his mindset in it's beginning is dishonest at best. Lincoln had no problem with war. He just knew this war was going to be short and sweet. So, meet the Peace Committee or, as he did, reinforce Sumter and entice a fight. War's on. Abe demands states send him 75,000 troops for 90 days. The Union already has 18,000 men. 93,000 men for 90 days. Abe ends up calling up over TWO MILLION men over a course of FOUR YEARS. Maybe he should have met with those leaders..
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The Fragmentary South

VaSteve Wrote: Jul 19, 2014 8:38 AM
Amen Brother. Amen.
Gayest? Nope. That goes to "our greatest President", Lincoln. He had a lover by the name of Joshua Speed that he slept with and wrote love letters to. Defenders say it was common back then for men to share a bed. True. But write "flowerly" letters? Not so much. And then there was the Army officer bodyguard, Derickson.And a Mr.Billy Greene who wrote of "Honest Abe", as he too shared many a night in the same bed, "His thighs were as perfect as a human being could be". Quite a compliment. Ever wonder why the Gay Republicans are called "Log Cabin"? Not that there is anything wrong with that.
TED KENNEDY & FRIENDS.
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Who'll Build the Roads?

VaSteve Wrote: Jul 16, 2014 7:44 AM
Hey! Leave the dog out of this.
Mexico. 1) shorter walk 2) no new language
Your data on UK Blacks is more about schools than intelligence. Being a "biological scholar" and all, you should know this.
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Slavery Reparations

VaSteve Wrote: Jun 18, 2014 8:23 PM
Excellent.
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Slavery Reparations

VaSteve Wrote: Jun 18, 2014 11:40 AM
Your Union ancestors MAY have risked their lives to ensure the Emancipation was validated but they would be in the minority. "Fighting to free the slaves" is a nice story but it is not based in fact. During that war IN and Abe's adoptive IL had laws banning Blacks, free or slave, from moving into their states. There was a grace period to travel thru but do not stay. Oregon took a bit further and had a No Negroes clause in their state's constitution. You do recall hearing of the "Sundown Laws" so many northern towns and cities were known for that made sure Blacks left before dark. Also, after Abe's EP was issued the desertion rate of the Union army skyrocketed. Sometimes entire units quit, like the 128th IL INF. And we are to believe that men who didn't want Blacks in their societies were willing to die so some slave in a far off Southern state could be free? Like I say, your ancestors may have been abolitionist, but they were certainly the minority and facts show that there are not millions of others with similar family histories. Don't believe everything you were taught in school. The winners write the history. That's why we weren't taught about those "No Negroes" laws I mentioned or the desertion rates. But you can easily find this info thru Google or whatnot.
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