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The Fragmentary South

VaSteve Wrote: Jul 19, 2014 8:38 AM
Amen Brother. Amen.
Gayest? Nope. That goes to "our greatest President", Lincoln. He had a lover by the name of Joshua Speed that he slept with and wrote love letters to. Defenders say it was common back then for men to share a bed. True. But write "flowerly" letters? Not so much. And then there was the Army officer bodyguard, Derickson.And a Mr.Billy Greene who wrote of "Honest Abe", as he too shared many a night in the same bed, "His thighs were as perfect as a human being could be". Quite a compliment. Ever wonder why the Gay Republicans are called "Log Cabin"? Not that there is anything wrong with that.
TED KENNEDY & FRIENDS.
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Who'll Build the Roads?

VaSteve Wrote: Jul 16, 2014 7:44 AM
Hey! Leave the dog out of this.
Mexico. 1) shorter walk 2) no new language
Your data on UK Blacks is more about schools than intelligence. Being a "biological scholar" and all, you should know this.
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Slavery Reparations

VaSteve Wrote: Jun 18, 2014 8:23 PM
Excellent.
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Slavery Reparations

VaSteve Wrote: Jun 18, 2014 11:40 AM
Your Union ancestors MAY have risked their lives to ensure the Emancipation was validated but they would be in the minority. "Fighting to free the slaves" is a nice story but it is not based in fact. During that war IN and Abe's adoptive IL had laws banning Blacks, free or slave, from moving into their states. There was a grace period to travel thru but do not stay. Oregon took a bit further and had a No Negroes clause in their state's constitution. You do recall hearing of the "Sundown Laws" so many northern towns and cities were known for that made sure Blacks left before dark. Also, after Abe's EP was issued the desertion rate of the Union army skyrocketed. Sometimes entire units quit, like the 128th IL INF. And we are to believe that men who didn't want Blacks in their societies were willing to die so some slave in a far off Southern state could be free? Like I say, your ancestors may have been abolitionist, but they were certainly the minority and facts show that there are not millions of others with similar family histories. Don't believe everything you were taught in school. The winners write the history. That's why we weren't taught about those "No Negroes" laws I mentioned or the desertion rates. But you can easily find this info thru Google or whatnot.
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Slavery Reparations

VaSteve Wrote: Jun 18, 2014 9:00 AM
Again. At the time of that war IN and Abe's adoptive IL had laws banning Blacks, free or slave, from moving into their states. Oregon had a "No Negroes" clause in their state's Constitution. Many Northern cities and towns had the "Sundown Laws" referring that Blacks not be in their town when the sun went down. The desertion rate of the Union army skyrocketed after the issuing of Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation. Some entire units up and quit. 128th IL INF comes to mind. And yet we are to believe that the same people who didn't want Blacks in their societies were willing to die to free some Blacks down South? A feel good story that is taught but hardly backed up by facts.
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