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Jay Carney: SCOTUS Was Wrong about the Mandate, Because Obama Says So

VA-SkyLark Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 12:07 PM
OK, fine. Dear Leader says it's not a tax, we'll suspend reality and believe him. Which then means Roberts' ruling was wrong and Obamacare is, in fact, unconstitutional and should be struck down.
Aura Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 12:46 PM
It's not a tax, but a penalty. If you don't do something, you pay a fine. Like not mowing your lawn, or paying your bills. These are not taxes, these are penalties.
Anne_1 Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 12:49 PM
Poor Aura!

With an IQ in the lower double-digits, she seems to think she knows what a "tax" is and is not.

It's a TAX because it fits the LEGAL DEFINITION of what a TAX IS.
Mam'selle Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 12:50 PM
A penalty for doing nothing? That defies the meaning of penalty. I don't eat brussel sprouts- wonder if I can get penalized for that.
Shieldwolf Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 12:54 PM
If its not a tax, its UNCONSTITUTIONAL... the Supreme Court said so.
JOHN34 Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 1:26 PM
So will the IRS be collecting the penalty for not cutting your grass
Aura Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 3:09 PM
You can if you there's a law that requires you to eat Brussels sprouts. There are laws that require you to keep your lawn trimmed. If you don't, you get a fine. That's a penalty, not a tax, for inaction.

Clearer now? Did I use too many multi-syllable words?
Aura Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 3:10 PM
It's not a tax, and yet somehow it was ruled constitutional. Now what?
Aura Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 3:10 PM
Probably not. Your local municipal treasurer probably does that.
Shieldwolf Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 3:36 PM
Its not a fine, not a penalty. It's a TAX. The Supreme Court has spoken. If you were to ever convince them otherwise then the law would be struck down as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

This isn't very difficult to understand... except for you
Lance73 Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 4:20 PM
There are no FEDERAL LAWS THAT REQUIRE US TO KEEP OUR GRASS TRIMMED. OMG, SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE FRICKIN' MORONS OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A state can mandate ANYTHING it wants to mandate, BECAUSE IT IS A STATE. Regulating the lawn-mowing habits of the citizenry IS NOT ONE OF THE 17 ENUMERATED POWERS GIVEN TO THE FEDS. WHY CAN'T YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Talk about having your cake and eating it, too: President Obama's various spokesmen are adamant that the individual mandate, which the Supreme Court ruled is constitutional as a tax, is not a tax. Indeed, Roberts' ruling has thrown into chaos the president's messaging machine, which has flopped from one position to the next as political expediency has warrented. Indeed, this whole episode is just more proof that Obama & Co. will say absolutely anything to get what they want, even if they contradict themselves from day to day.

Ben LaBolt, spokesman for the Obama campaign, appeared on television this...