This is getting difficult as you cannot comment on specific pieces without recopying entire sections of text, quoting them etc. It has been illuminating arguing with you and darby. Is my mind changed, not really, and I'm on your side more than most. I am anti abortion, but I'm not a woman. I maintain abortions will continue whether or not they are legal, and therefore should be under medical care and legal. How you make that happen without giving the appearance of condoning it, is beyond me. Have enjoyed the back and forth, but cannot devote as much time as I'd like to doing it. Hope to see you both on here again though.