Geez, guys, why is everyone so rude? The fastest way to make an intellectual discussion into a brawl is to start throwing around insults like second graders on the playground. I know you're all intelligent people, and we're all adults. And I know it's hard to believe, but both sides really do think they're doing what's best for the country. So perhap a little civility? Love your neighbor as yourself? Or, if you must think of it in these terms, love your enemy?